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Music - Is it Haraam?

If you follow the Islam where even lighting candles on a birthday cake is haraam, then yes listening to music definitely is. What I don't appreciate is people picking and choosing stuff based on their convenience, and then trying to justify their actions.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
He is a Hindu but not part of caste.
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I was under the impression that you have to be born a Hindu. Certainly I can't imagine a genuine Hindu accepting a convert as an equal without the caste as part of the equation. Otherwise why would Hindu Dalits face discrimination.
 
Listening to Rap/Hip hop should definitely be classified haraam. Absolute nonsense.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
I was under the impression that you have to be born a Hindu. Certainly I can't imagine a genuine Hindu accepting a convert as an equal without the caste as part of the equation. Otherwise why would Hindu Dalits face discrimination.
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You are right.

They may not accept him as one of the same caste (for religious rights, duties, etc) but he does have the right for eternal salvation.
 
Donal Cozzie said:
I dont understand why it matters either way.

Its music, what possible harm could it ever cause and how could it ever impact your faith.

Maybe its just me, but I dont see why people need consultation with every little thing in life, especially when dealing with a text written over a millenia before music became what it is today.

If you enjoy music, listen to it as often as you like
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they say the Devil is linked in it.

PS: I also read this article where soft music made your BP low and Hardcore made it high which is suggested by scientist not a good thing.
 
dashing_man said:
they say the Devil is linked in it.

PS: I also read this article where soft music made your BP low and Hardcore made it high which is suggested by scientist not a good thing.
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What's the final authentic verdict of Islamic scholars on it (Quran) ?
 
dashing_man said:
they say the Devil is linked in it.

PS: I also read this article where soft music made your BP low and Hardcore made it high which is suggested by scientist not a good thing.
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What's the final authentic verdict of Islamic scholars on it (Quran) ?
 
I stopped listening to music in 2014 and my life has become much better. I haven't listened to any music since 2014.

Music used to make me feel hyped up and at times depressed.

Modern music is not allowed in Islam (as far as I know). However, nasheed is fine.
 
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sweep_shot said:
I stopped listening to music in 2014 and my life has become much better. I haven't listened to any music since 2014.

Music used to make me feel hyped up and at times depressed.

Modern music is not allowed in Islam (as far as I know). However, nasheed is fine.
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You were listening to the wrong music. It makes me feel great. Playing it even more so. The musician has a tremendous responsibility in society because she has the power to make people feel very good or very sad or very angry.
 
sweep_shot said:
I stopped listening to music in 2014 and my life has become much better. I haven't listened to any music since 2014.

Music used to make me feel hyped up and at times depressed.

Modern music is not allowed in Islam (as far as I know). However, nasheed is fine.
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Maybe you were listening to the wrong music? I tend to listen to things that relax me and help me focus.
 
sweep_shot said:
I stopped listening to music in 2014 and my life has become much better. I haven't listened to any music since 2014.

Music used to make me feel hyped up and at times depressed.

Modern music is not allowed in Islam (as far as I know). However, nasheed is fine.
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What sort of music did you listen to before
 
Music is a temporary solution. It doesn't calm your soul. If it did the people in west would've been the most peaceful and soulful ones.
 
ARK Rafay said:
Music is a temporary solution. It doesn't calm your soul. If it did the people in west would've been the most peaceful and soulful ones.
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The peaceful soulful ones love music. Think of all the great works that have been created, the marvellous pieces describing the heights of beauty and the depths of pain.
 
Robert said:
You were listening to the wrong music. It makes me feel great. Playing it even more so. The musician has a tremendous responsibility in society because she has the power to make people feel very good or very sad or very angry.
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hussain.r97 said:
Maybe you were listening to the wrong music? I tend to listen to things that relax me and help me focus.
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shaz619 said:
What sort of music did you listen to before
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I used to listen to mostly rock but I also at times listened to rap. My favorite artists were Three Days Grace, Rise Against, Eminem etc.

When I quit music, I wasn't even religious. I did it as a therapy. It improved my focus quite a bit.

ARK Rafay said:
Music is a temporary solution. It doesn't calm your soul. If it did the people in west would've been the most peaceful and soulful ones.
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I fully agree with you. Music is like alcohol. It can numb down your wound but it doesn't fix anything.

My life is much better without music. I thank God for keeping me out of it.
 
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Cypher said:
Maybe you should research about it before talking.
You seem to be very ignorant on this matter
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Typical wobbler, isn't it haram to not perform astanjah before you actually read the holy book ?
 
sweep_shot said:
I used to listen to mostly rock but I also at times listened to rap. My favorite artists were Three Days Grace, Rise Against, Eminem etc.

When I quit music, I wasn't even religious. I did it as a therapy. It improved my focus quite a bit.



I fully agree with you. Music is like alcohol. It can numb down your wound but it doesn't fix anything.

My life is much better without music. I thank God for keeping me out of it.
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You were listening to some pretty angry stuff then.

Listen to uplifting stuff instead. Bach, Tschaikovsky, Beethoven, Sibelius, Miles Davis, John Coltrane, anything sung by Ella Fitzgerald, all kinds of soul, all kinds of modern jazz. I am truly sorry that you are denying yourself access to such beauty and majesty.
 
shaz619 said:
No it isn't, only wahabis and extremists say that
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Brother , there is nothing called extremist or Moderate Muslims. Fundamentals of Islam is Quran and authentic narrations of Muhammad SAW , that is it.

What different sects say is to be thrown into dust bin when it contradicts the above two.

What is your evidence for Music being allowed in Islam ?
 
Justcrazy said:
Brother , there is nothing called extremist or Moderate Muslims. Fundamentals of Islam is Quran and authentic narrations of Muhammad SAW , that is it.

What different sects say is to be thrown into dust bin when it contradicts the above two.

What is your evidence for Music being allowed in Islam ?
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Interesting.

A Christian fundamentalist would be one who thinks the Earth is 4000 years olf, Adam and Eve were real people and Noah's Ark was real.

A more liberal Christian would see these stories as metaphor, as teaching tales.

But even fundy Christians like church music. The Bible talks about making "a joyful noise unto the Lord" with cymbals and tambourines and so on.
 
Robert said:
Interesting.

A Christian fundamentalist would be one who thinks the Earth is 4000 years olf, Adam and Eve were real people and Noah's Ark was real.

A more liberal Christian would see these stories as metaphor, as teaching tales.

But even fundy Christians like church music. The Bible talks about making "a joyful noise unto the Lord" with cymbals and tambourines and so on.
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A liberal guy who follows religion is not really a religious guy. He just uses religion to fill his spiritual needs while indulging in all forms of non-religious activities.

Most religious people are hypocrites anyway.
 
Justcrazy said:
Brother , there is nothing called extremist or Moderate Muslims. Fundamentals of Islam is Quran and authentic narrations of Muhammad SAW , that is it.

What different sects say is to be thrown into dust bin when it contradicts the above two.

What is your evidence for Music being allowed in Islam ?
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It's the least of your worries, where does it say that bombing is acceptable ? why don't you talk against the real bidah's and shirk's the wahabis are responsible for, extreme fundamentalists are responsible for the real issues in the modern muslim world which is terrorism sure geo politics play a role but your poisonous ideology and lack of tolerance are a massive problem, but you have an issue with music....
 
shaz619 said:
It's the least of your worries, where does it say that bombing is acceptable ? why don't you talk against the real bidah's and shirk's the wahabis are responsible for, extreme fundamentalists are responsible for the real issues in the modern muslim world which is terrorism sure geo politics play a role but your poisonous ideology and lack of tolerance are a massive problem, but you have an issue with music....
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The so called Extremists are only fighting the non-believers till they say that Allah is the only God and Muhammed is the final prophet.
 
Robert said:
Interesting.

A Christian fundamentalist would be one who thinks the Earth is 4000 years olf, Adam and Eve were real people and Noah's Ark was real.

A more liberal Christian would see these stories as metaphor, as teaching tales.

But even fundy Christians like church music. The Bible talks about making "a joyful noise unto the Lord" with cymbals and tambourines and so on.
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Brother , this is a thread about Islam jurisprudence on Music , not Christianity. As far as Islam is concerned Music is not allowed especially use of instruments, which is indispensable part of music today
 
shaz619 said:
It's the least of your worries, where does it say that bombing is acceptable ? why don't you talk against the real bidah's and shirk's the wahabis are responsible for, extreme fundamentalists are responsible for the real issues in the modern muslim world which is terrorism sure geo politics play a role but your poisonous ideology and lack of tolerance are a massive problem, but you have an issue with music....
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Brother, who told you I do not talk? I will talk according to the thread. If the thread is about batting, you expect me to talk about bowling? Make the thread which you would like to talk about, people will certainly comment.
 
Justcrazy said:
Brother , this is a thread about Islam jurisprudence on Music , not Christianity. As far as Islam is concerned Music is not allowed especially use of instruments, which is indispensable part of music today
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Is this an accepted view by all schools of thought? Or just what you follow?
 
Justcrazy said:
Brother , this is a thread about Islam jurisprudence on Music , not Christianity. As far as Islam is concerned Music is not allowed especially use of instruments, which is indispensable part of music today
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So are acapellas permitted in your version of Islam then?
 
Technics 1210 said:
So are acapellas permitted in your version of Islam then?
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lol.

Music has been part of Islamic culture for centuries. In fact, Muslims actually perfected music in Islamic Spain, which is still the foundation of western modern music now! Music was also used as medicine by those Muslims in hospitals. This points to the simple common sense rule in Islam, its only forbidden if it's harmful for you. Music can be both, healing and harmful.

This literalist understanding coming out of Saudi needs to be stopped, it's ruining the Muslim world.
 
KingKhanWC said:
lol.

Music has been part of Islamic culture for centuries. In fact, Muslims actually perfected music in Islamic Spain, which is still the foundation of western modern music now! Music was also used as medicine by those Muslims in hospitals. This points to the simple common sense rule in Islam, its only forbidden if it's harmful for you. Music can be both, healing and harmful.

This literalist understanding coming out of Saudi needs to be stopped, it's ruining the Muslim world.
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Agree, reading this thread just demonstrates what is precisely wrong with Islam today.
 
Justcrazy said:
Brother , there is nothing called extremist or Moderate Muslims. Fundamentals of Islam is Quran and authentic narrations of Muhammad SAW , that is it.

What different sects say is to be thrown into dust bin when it contradicts the above two.

What is your evidence for Music being allowed in Islam ?
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You wouldn't say that if you had heard the authentic narration about the 73 sects.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Is this an accepted view by all schools of thought? Or just what you follow?
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There is NO consensus about Music. Most consider a specific type of music as haram while the rest is halal. Basically, halal and haram music exists.

The less said about extremist Wahabi/Salafist ideologies the better.
 
Not saying that Saudis are the yardstick of defining haraam and halal but if music was strictly haraam then they would have banned all the cassette shops in the country when I was growing up.
 
KingKhanWC said:
lol.

Music has been part of Islamic culture for centuries. In fact, Muslims actually perfected music in Islamic Spain, which is still the foundation of western modern music now! Music was also used as medicine by those Muslims in hospitals. This points to the simple common sense rule in Islam, its only forbidden if it's harmful for you. Music can be both, healing and harmful.

This literalist understanding coming out of Saudi needs to be stopped, it's ruining the Muslim world.
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What do you mean by perfected? Do you mean scale and harmony development ?

I can accept that the music of Muslim Spain contributed to the development of the flamenco, but Western music developed from the Greco-Roman tradition driven by the Church, from plainsong through to Baroque and then Classical music.
 
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Music is haram unless you are reciting Holy Quran. Instruments are not permitted.

This Mufti can dance. Watch the video.
 
Robert said:
What do you mean by perfected? Do you mean scale and harmony development ?

I can accept that the music of Muslim Spain contributed to the development of the flamenco, but Western music developed from the Greco-Roman tradition driven by the Church, from plainsong through to Baroque and then Classical music.
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Musical notation.

Also the basis of US blues, soul, jazz comes from when Muslim slaves arrived in the new lands.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Musical notation.

Also the basis of US blues, soul, jazz comes from when Muslim slaves arrived in the new lands.
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With respect mate I think you are reaching a bit. The Phrigian Scale not only predates Moorish Spain, it predates Islam altogether.

While many slaves were abducted from Muslim Africa, they were forced to be Christians. It is true that plantation field hollers bear resemblance to the Call to Prayer and certain tribal call-and-response chants. The Blues can also be traced to the Spirituals sung in the Protestant ‘Great Awakening’ of the early nineteenth century, which rejected the Enlightenment.
 
troodon said:
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Music is haram unless you are reciting Holy Quran. Instruments are not permitted.

This Mufti can dance. Watch the video.
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An interesting watch, but he is ignoring a vast range of music across centuries.
 
Robert said:
With respect mate I think you are reaching a bit. The Phrigian Scale not only predates Moorish Spain, it predates Islam altogether.

While many slaves were abducted from Muslim Africa, they were forced to be Christians. It is true that plantation field hollers bear resemblance to the Call to Prayer and certain tribal call-and-response chants. The Blues can also be traced to the Spirituals sung in the Protestant ‘Great Awakening’ of the early nineteenth century, which rejected the Enlightenment.
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There are others who have more detailed knowledge and tbh I dont care. A lot of modern western civilisation is based on Islamic culture, some taken , other parts stolen after the defeat of the Spanish Muslims. My point was related to the thread, showing music has been in Islamic culture for many centuries.

Music is any sound which provides form. Therefore the Quran itself can be classed as music. It depends on the music. Although I would say almost all of heavy metal music would be forbidden because of Islamic principles. If not , it's utter trash music and should be Haraam!!! :rabada2
 
Robert said:
An interesting watch, but he is ignoring a vast range of music across centuries.
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What Islam says and what Muslims do are 2 completely different things. Islam says a lot of things. Muslims do not follow all the things from what I see.
 
KingKhanWC said:
There are others who have more detailed knowledge and tbh I dont care. A lot of modern western civilisation is based on Islamic culture, some taken , other parts stolen after the defeat of the Spanish Muslims. My point was related to the thread, showing music has been in Islamic culture for many centuries.

Music is any sound which provides form. Therefore the Quran itself can be classed as music. It depends on the music. Although I would say almost all of heavy metal music would be forbidden because of Islamic principles. If not , it's utter trash music and should be Haraam!!! :rabada2
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Is soft romantic songs allowed as per you?
 
troodon said:
What Islam says and what Muslims do are 2 completely different things. Islam says a lot of things. Muslims do not follow all the things from what I see.
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Not just Muslims all, religions do it but Muslims seem to be clinging on to it for some last sense of semblance while trying to make sense of all the brainwashing.

This explains is perfectly

 
The subject of whether Muslim is haram or not is very confusing. I've read many differing views on this matter and I choose to believe that it's not haram.

I love music and I listen to it all the time. However, the music that I listen to is clean music. I don't listen to music with profanity and vulgar sexual themes.
 
I last listened to music back in 2013. It has been a while.

I must say my life is better now without music. My focus has increased.
 
With the exception of some fringe groups no Muslims think Music is haraam. Heck even the religious ones have created qawaali, and naats.
 
Dont think these are halal Color Me Badd - I Wanna Sex You Up, Right Said Fred-I am too sexy and Mouse T - Horny
 
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