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As per an UNCONFIRMED media report:

Based upon scan reports from Dubai about his right shoulder, Naseem Shah is likely to miss the entire World Cup;

A second opinion is being sought by the PCB and if the extent of the injury is confirmed, Naseem could be ruled out for the rest of the year and could miss out on Test series in Australia at the turn and the next Pakistan Super League season.

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Whatever slight chance we had is gone, huge blow to our chances.

Ihsanullah injured and Hasnain injured aswell.
 
Huge blow - probably better though we had no chance of winning the World Cup anyway. The worst thing for his career would have been rushing him through rehab and inevitably getting injured again during the tournament.

Shame his replacements are also injured. Lifeline for Hassan Ali, Dahani, Amir even?
 
Pathetic from PCB to allow him play t20s around the world.

Anyways, our concern should not be pace bowling. It should be spin. Indian wickets will be more spin friendly, and PCB needs to work something out on that front.

As for pace, as long as they dont bring Waseem Jr in, we have guys like Abbas Afridi, Ihsanullah, Dhani and Hasan Ali that can cover.
 
Also in hindsight, Pakistan was better off boycotting the Asia cup.

This what happens when you focus too much on an India vs Pakistan match up
 
Naseem's injury will take a huge toll on the team's morale. There is already a lot of frustration in the camp, things will get ugly.
 
Did Naseem Shah really needed to play the Mickey Mouse league, twice he played back 2 back games

Shaheen is also not fully fit as he wanted to play the Hundred.

Shame on PCB for allowing this to happen.

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Even if this news is true, then we are doomed.... Haris is not completely fit. Shaheen out of touch. Shadab has poor run of form. What are we looking at now? Dahani? no...
 
MenInG said:
How PCB allowed confidential information on his scans etc to be leaked is beyond me.
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There is a lot of stuff being leaked to the media right now.

Pakistan cricket is pure chaos at the moment.

This forces the management to opt for another specialist spinner in the squad and to re-jig our strategy as @Major rightly pointed out earlier this week. Have
 
Unfortunately, this was bound to happen given the amount of league matches these Pakistani players play and the grueling conditions the bowlers are forced to bowl in home tests.

PCB has to put restrictions in place to ensure these players are fit for major assignments.
 
gazza619 said:
Did Naseem Shah really needed to play the Mickey Mouse league, twice he played back 2 back games

Shaheen is also not fully fit as he wanted to play the Hundred.

Shame on PCB for allowing this to happen.

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It's okay. Let our pacers play in 40 degree heat of Multan vs Nepal.

Let them play in a league (100) that's not even an international format. Heck, let them play in Botswana and Uzbekistan T20 league.

Let's not learn anything from Shaheen's injury last year. What's the worst that could happen ? Oh.

It's almost as if we want our pacers to break down. Naseem shouldn't have played against India having tweaked his shoulder vs Bangladesh - why take the risk so close to a World Cup ? It begs the question what medical advice is being given to the management ?

It'so frustrating seeing this happen time and again.
 
Our chances for wc are looking bleak after this big setback
His 10 overs were crucial
 
From the few matches Pakistan played this year that I watched, Naseem looked like Pakistans best bowler this year, especially in ODI.
 
It was always bound to happen, just a matter of time. They play every mickey mouse leagues around the world for only fringe amount of money. Then of course they have a pathetic gutless captain who runs them down by playing them every match against Afg,Nep,Ned just to keep his winning record intact & also the number 1 ranking! It's no wonder currently all the 3 pacers are bruised & down.
 
He missed the last match of the Lanka league because of it
Then he messed up his shoulder even more after diving around in the field in the match against Bangladesh. He should have just been rested after that incident instead of being allowed to bowl again.
Seeing Shaheen dive around in the field also looks like a disaster waiting to happen, he looks really fragile
We should have a better programme to rehabilitate our bowlers
 
It's a perfect storm for Pakistan. Everything was going too smoothly. We need chaos to do well maybe this can spark something and also we never do well when we are amongst the favourites.
 
Extremely sad news, Naseem was in very good form and could have been our top wicket-taker in this WC. It's time for Wasim Jr. and Zaman to step up and show what they've got.
 
MenInG said:
Did he do this yesterday?
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not sure. This came out 20 hours ago. But he clearly has some niggles/shoulder problem pre Asia cup also, even in LPL he missed a match. Why put forward there names when there are important Test matches of WTC Cycle coming up as well for Pakistan.
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
not sure. This came out 20 hours ago. But he clearly has some niggles/should problem pre Asia cup also, even in LPL he missed a match. Why put forward there names when there are important Test matches of WTC Cycle coming up as well for Pakistan.
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Yes so you don't know.

Best not to surmise when not known.

Commercial matters are handled by agents then PCB also has the option to block NOCs etc.
 
Usman Chadda said:
As per an UNCONFIRMED media report:

Based upon scan reports from Dubai about his right shoulder, Naseem Shah is likely to miss the entire World Cup;

A second opinion is being sought by the PCB and if the extent of the injury is confirmed, Naseem could be ruled out for the rest of the year and could miss out on Test series in Australia at the turn and the next Pakistan Super League season.

==

Whatever slight chance we had is gone, huge blow to our chances.

Ihsanullah injured and Hasnain injured aswell.
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Cricinfo has reported the same 54 minutes ago so I guess it is confirmed now.
 
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VForVendetta said:
It was always bound to happen, just a matter of time. They play every mickey mouse leagues around the world for only fringe amount of money. Then of course they have a pathetic gutless captain who runs them down by playing them every match against Afg,Nep,Ned just to keep his winning record intact & also the number 1 ranking! It's no wonder currently all the 3 pacers are bruised & down.
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The amount of test cricket we play has decreased significantly.
in leagues you only have to bowl 4 overs. Plus Pakistan hardly plays any ODI cricket as well. Its Its mostly just t20i

The workload to a fast bowler of the past is significantly less.
Reason for these injuries is something else which the PCB needs to investigate.
 
This is a significant setback for Pakistan. However, given that most of Pakistan's matches are being played on either batting-friendly pitches or sharp-turning tracks, is it truly necessary to field a trio of fast bowlers? I believe that Shaheen, Rauf, and two frontline spinners can also effectively handle the task. Nevertheless, we must ensure that we have high-quality spinners in order to accommodate two pacers in the playing eleven, rather than relying on mediocre right-arm full-toss bowlers who lack genuine skill.
 
Usman Chadda said:
As per an UNCONFIRMED media report:

Based upon scan reports from Dubai about his right shoulder, Naseem Shah is likely to miss the entire World Cup;

A second opinion is being sought by the PCB and if the extent of the injury is confirmed, Naseem could be ruled out for the rest of the year and could miss out on Test series in Australia at the turn and the next Pakistan Super League season.

==

Whatever slight chance we had is gone, huge blow to our chances.

Ihsanullah injured and Hasnain injured aswell.
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You have got to be kidding me? No way?
This is for real?

I cannot believe it. On the one hand you need match practice and bowl with full intensity to get fit however, a bowler will always say he is fit so if he was carrying a niggle and pcb ignored it just to have him fit for this Mickey mouse cup then heads should roll.
 
Our world cup is already done he was our best pacer even better than Shaheen in my take and there's no one who can replace him both with the new and old ball. People want to bring in amir but do he even have the fitness to bowl 10 overs I don't think so.... hassan ali will come in but he hardly does well with the new ball
 
Usman Chadda said:
There is a lot of stuff being leaked to the media right now.

Pakistan cricket is pure chaos at the moment.

This forces the management to opt for another specialist spinner in the squad and to re-jig our strategy as @Major rightly pointed out earlier this week. Have
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Medical ones are worst.

This is a confidential report which has been given to Cricinfo - totally irresponsible
 
7sins said:
Our world cup is already done he was our best pacer even better than Shaheen in my take and there's no one who can replace him both with the new and old ball. People want to bring in amir but do he even have the fitness to bowl 10 overs I don't think so.... hassan ali will come in but he hardly does well with the new ball
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Yes, we need to replace Naseem with someone who can bowl with the new ball. Zaman, Hasan Ali, Wasim Jr are more suited for the latter part of an innings.

So who is good with the new ball?
1) Imad Wasim (but he allegedly has beef with Babar). If you use Imad, then you can select Zaman as a specialist death-overs bowler alongside Rauf
2) Amir (but allegidly has beef with Babar and may not be able to bowl 10 overs due to fitness)
3) Ihsaanullah (but he is probably not fit to bowl 10 overs and he is a horrible fielder)
4) Maybe Rauf takes the new ball with Shaheen and we use Zaman to bowl in the middle / death)

I like option 1 but I think they will go with option 4
 
Asad T said:
Yes, we need to replace Naseem with someone who can bowl with the new ball. Zaman, Hasan Ali, Wasim Jr are more suited for the latter part of an innings.

So who is good with the new ball?
1) Imad Wasim (but he allegedly has beef with Babar). If you use Imad, then you can select Zaman as a specialist death-overs bowler alongside Rauf
2) Amir (but allegidly has beef with Babar and may not be able to bowl 10 overs due to fitness)
3) Ihsaanullah (but he is probably not fit to bowl 10 overs and he is a horrible fielder)
4) Maybe Rauf takes the new ball with Shaheen and we use Zaman to bowl in the middle / death)

I like option 1 but I think they will go with option 4
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I don't rate Zaman Khan at all, he don't have a wicket taking delivery for odis. He's decent when he only bowls 4 overs in a t20
 
MenInG said:
How PCB allowed confidential information on his scans etc to be leaked is beyond me.
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It's better that people now know about extent of his injury.

Otherwise PCB would have mismanaged his injury & could have tried to fast track him like they did with Shaheen last year.
 
Now out of available pacers

  • New Ball - Shaheen & Wasim jnr (he has good nip-baker)
  • Middle overs - ??? (Haris also injured)
  • Death overs - Shaheen, Zaman Khan, Wasim jnr
 
Major said:
Also in hindsight, Pakistan was better off boycotting the Asia cup.

This what happens when you focus too much on an India vs Pakistan match up
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That's true, in hindsight Pakistan were so much better off boycotting this event which has turned out to be a total disaster for them. That would also have sent a statement to the BCCI that they won't bow down to them and would have projected PCB as a strong board. They could have played the WC saying it's anyhow an ICC event.

Instead they leave the Asia Cup not only as a weak board but also as a weak team and with their best bowler injured for a long period. Complete disaster of a tournament.
 
gazza619 said:
Did Naseem Shah really needed to play the Mickey Mouse league, twice he played back 2 back games

Shaheen is also not fully fit as he wanted to play the Hundred.

Shame on PCB for allowing this to happen.

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Don't blame bowling 4 overs for his injury.

He played Afg in SL, flew to MTN for Nepal, flew back to SL for ind, then flew to LHR for BD, then again flew back to SL.

It was blunder on part of PCB. They could have managed workload of our pacers batter. There was no need of him playing against Nepal and against BD.

Eng announced their preliminary WC23 squad in recent weeks. They have 6 pacers in 15 man squad & only 1 back-up batter. Once asked about this, their coach said we have to travel a lot in Indian heat that's why we are selecting more pacers in the squad to give rest to main pacers in some of the matches.

PCB is at-least a decade behing in planning & player management.

@Saj @MenInG
 
I'm absolutely gutted for Naseem Shah. He is my favorite player in the team and it must very difficult to take for him as well. Hope he recovers soon.
 
Big blow for Pakistan. Naseem has been the best pacer.

Pakistan have a habit of not resting their main pacers. They even fielded Shaheen against Netherlands (if I remember correctly).

Need to manage players (particularly pacers) better.
 
Falcon'sParwaz said:
Don't blame bowling 4 overs for his injury.

He played Afg in SL, flew to MTN for Nepal, flew back to SL for ind, then flew to LHR for BD, then again flew back to SL.

It was blunder on part of PCB. They could have managed workload of our pacers batter. There was no need of him playing against Nepal and against BD.

Eng announced their preliminary WC23 squad in recent weeks. They have 6 pacers in 15 man squad & only 1 back-up batter. Once asked about this, their coach said we have to travel a lot in Indian heat that's why we are selecting more pacers in the squad to give rest to main pacers in some of the matches.

PCB is at-least a decade behing in planning & player management.

@Saj @MenInG
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Agree.

Pakistan should've rested all 3 (Shaheen, Rauf, and Naseem) for Nepal game.
 
7sins said:
I don't rate Zaman Khan at all, he don't have a wicket taking delivery for odis. He's decent when he only bowls 4 overs in a t20
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He has only played 1 ODI so it's too early to tell.
Yes, he looked average with the new ball but I sense with time, he will do well
 
Asad T said:
He missed the last match of the Lanka league because of it
Then he messed up his shoulder even more after diving around in the field in the match against Bangladesh. He should have just been rested after that incident instead of being allowed to bowl again.
Seeing Shaheen dive around in the field also looks like a disaster waiting to happen, he looks really fragile
We should have a better programme to rehabilitate our bowlers
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Are you suggesting that Pakistani bowlers should stop diving and leak boundaries to preserve their careers?
 
RidiculousMan said:
Does anyone know how did this injury happen?

Waiting for an official press release
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Wait no longer for a detail explanation

This just come out:

The Pakistan Cricket Board's medical team has been monitoring the status of Naseem Shah’s shoulder injury sustained during the Asia Cup 2023. Medical consultations with the experts are underway to provide the best possible care to Naseem.

The PCB medical panel will decide on the fast bowler's return to cricket based on further assessments.
 
How did he even get injured ? While fielding ?

It did not look that serious on camera. I thought they didn't let him bat as a precautionary measure?

Without Naseem, PAK ain't making semis. You can probably do without Shaheen or Rauf but Naseem offers control throughout the 50 overs and I don't think there is another PAK bowler with his defensive skills.
 
MenInG said:
Wait no longer for a detail explanation

This just come out:

The Pakistan Cricket Board's medical team has been monitoring the status of Naseem Shah’s shoulder injury sustained during the Asia Cup 2023. Medical consultations with the experts are underway to provide the best possible care to Naseem.

The PCB medical panel will decide on the fast bowler's return to cricket based on further assessments.
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It was the so called medical panel who still allowed him to play against India? Don't know how many players careers these medical panels will destroy
 
MenInG said:
Wait no longer for a detail explanation

This just come out:

The Pakistan Cricket Board's medical team has been monitoring the status of Naseem Shah’s shoulder injury sustained during the Asia Cup 2023. Medical consultations with the experts are underway to provide the best possible care to Naseem.

The PCB medical panel will decide on the fast bowler's return to cricket based on further assessments.
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Yeah that last sentence pretty much confirms he is out.

Massive blow, can’t even imagine what Babar and the team are feeling right now.

Gutted.
 
Chalo now we at least have an excuse if we crash out of the tournament early.

Any chances for IhsanUllah to recover before the WC?

You rest, monitor, and rotate the bowlers just to have them ready for the biggest event in cricket but in Pakistan you play them in meainigless matches so they can miss the WCs lol. Lagay raho, jaahilo.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
How did he even get injured ? While fielding ?

It did not look that serious on camera. I thought they didn't let him bat as a precautionary measure?

Without Naseem, PAK ain't making semis. You can probably do without Shaheen or Rauf but Naseem offers control throughout the 50 overs and I don't think there is another PAK bowler with his defensive skills.
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Exactly my thoughts. It didn't look serious at the time at all, it is not like he fell during fielding or got hit or anything. If it is this serious then one game or one series cannot be blamed, it's something that was bound to happen.

I also agree that without Naseem, Pak aren't making the semis, it will be a surprise if they do so. Although I don't agree that they can do without Shaheen, he is equally important.
 
mominsaigol said:
The mission to kill shaheen, Naseem and Rauf.

Babar has been crafting his business plan since their induction, he almost succeded in 2021, now his plan is closer to fruition.
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I Sometimes think these players ALSO want to play against Nepal and Bangladesh to get easy wickets.

But maybe its just me.
 
A big blow. Options are limited but I will go for a swing bowler in Arshad Iqbal. Other options can be Amer Jamal and Irfanullah Shsh. Sadly Ihsanullah us also unfit. We all know Hasan Ali it will be in the end
 
He needs to rest and do the rehab. Now that we know he is out of the WC, it gives us a chance to think of other options. Time for someone else to step up
 
Such gutting news and eliminates of any hopes of Pakistan winning chances in the WC.

Glad Naseem got to play in LPL at least and PCB played him in the useless ODI series vs Afghanistan & mighty Nepal. Congrats to Naseem & PCB on their short-term vision.
 
The worrying thing is I can’t think of anyone to replace him
 
Nikhil_cric said:
How did he even get injured ? While fielding ?

It did not look that serious on camera. I thought they didn't let him bat as a precautionary measure?

Without Naseem, PAK ain't making semis. You can probably do without Shaheen or Rauf but Naseem offers control throughout the 50 overs and I don't think there is another PAK bowler with his defensive skills.
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Pretty sure he was carrying an injury since lpl.
 
1992 - Waqar Younis

2007 - Shoaib Akhtar + Mohammad Asif

2011 - Mohammad Amir + Mohammad Asif

2015 - Junaid Khan

2023 - Naseem Shah

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The worst thing we can do now is to rush him back like we did with Shaheen and then lost him for a much longer time.

I'm totally gutted though. This Asia Cup turned out to ba a complete disaster.
 
AMSS said:
Devastating?

Or a blessing in disguise?

We'll find out.
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Even if Pakistan win the World Cup, it cannot be a blessing in disguise because Naseem wasn't a liability by any means.

Naseem is also one of those rare Pakistani players who is mentally tough, those two almost impossible run chases against Afghanistan prove this point. He didn't flinch one bit on those occasions and had incredible self belief. These are the type of cricketers a team needs.

Naseem is also very passionate and humble, has great work ethics, he has never been in the news for causing distress in the dressing room or even on the field. He comes a cross as a pretty good bloke.
 
This is a big blow.

I think of the three pacers he was potentially the most threatening with the new ball.

But if any country can get over this, it’s Pakistan with its rich pace reserves.

The slinger is an interesting substitute.
 
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