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Nawaz Sharif in London due to illness - Discussion Thread

WebGuru said:
So Nawaz and PMLN are still on bed with Establishment and GHQ after all the vote ko izat do drama?
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So they believe that the Army is with them and all the tirade against the army stops. Whatever happened to the NS being anti establishment?
 
Mueez said:
Disappointing.

There is no justice for the suffering of innocents.
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I suppose like the way our cricket team just tugs along , the country will forever stay as a lootocracy. The elite have courts as their lawyers, whilst the poor stay as poor. I hope Kaptaan realises that playing nicey nicey ain't going to work and he needs to kick ****. You have to get creative to deal with the mafia, Al Capone was never done for murder but for tax evasion.
 
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Bewal Express said:
I suppose like the way our cricket team just tugs along , the country will forever stay as a lootocracy. The elite have courts as their lawyers, whilst the poor stay as poor. I hope Kaptaan realises that playing nicey nicey ain't going to work and he needs to kick ****. You have to get creative to deal with the mafia, Al Capone was never done for murder but for tax evasion.
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Agreed.

Khan needs to get proactive and bamboozle this mafia forever.
 
Hilarious comments on social media by PMLN. From vote ko izat do and civil supremacy to now "establishment humaare sath hai army se deal ho gae"
 
No matter how much relief the patwari judges give the thief and his clan nothing will change the fact that IK will remain PM till 2023 and beyond and the thief and his daughter are disqualified.
 
Bewal Express said:
Far too nicey nicey, we don't live in a European democracy. PK is a mafia state and he needs to challenge them every where or they will finish him.
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Been too much of a pacifist since taking over..... Should have sent every single Sharif and Bhutto/Zardari to the gallows to have dented the mafia.
 
Syed1 said:
Been too much of a pacifist since taking over..... Should have sent every single Sharif and Bhutto/Zardari to the gallows to have dented the mafia.
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He has and has to take the decision to meet the mafia head on. He has taken some very painful economic decisions and the green shoots have began to appear. Now is the time to take on the mafia, its a matter of life or death.
 
[MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION]

As if lies of ur leader are halaal
 
Mamoon why don't you thank the establishment when they are allowing your saviour to go to london scotch free without even returning a single penny to the national treasury?
 
Well, thief wins. I guess money runs this world after everything is said and done. A sad fact.

Who knows how many of those blood stained looted dollars exchanged hands.

:yk the guy steals, gets caught and escapes like a proper Don!

3rd world countries are 3rd world for a reason. A truly sad day for patriot Pakistani people.
 
WhenSultansBowled said:
Well, thief wins. I guess money runs this world after everything is said and done. A sad fact.

Who knows how many of those blood stained looted dollars exchanged hands.

:yk the guy steals, gets caught and escapes like a proper Don!

3rd world countries are 3rd world for a reason. A truly sad day for patriot Pakistani people.
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It has nothing to do with money.

IK government knew that none of them would pay back looted money.
 
Us Pakistani's have a fetish for Plutocracies and Kleptocracies. Lord have mercy for the ignorant, blind, deaf and dumb.
 
Hamza_ said:
[MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION]

As if lies of ur leader are halaal
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So a guy escaping justice for stealing billions and bribing courts is akin to lies. Only a totally thick Noora would draw a parallel. As I said earlier stop making a fool of yourself. You are happy that you think that the est has saved your duffer, but then you can't moan about the establishment in your main political slogans. You have been Rumbled.
 
Mueez said:
Disappointing.
There is no justice for the suffering of innocents.
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How many lives have these thieves destroyed? They have stolen the very opportunity of the poor. They have inflicted the genuine suffering and all the pain that comes with poverty to millions of Pakistanis. The true villains.

I hope there is a special place in hell for these people and their shameless supporters.
 
You can't do things by the book in Pakistan, dictatorship is the only thing which works in our country
 
The Lahore High Court on Saturday allowed former premier Nawaz Sharif to travel abroad for four weeks for medical treatment, saying the duration could be extended based on medical reports.

In a blow to the government, which had placed a condition of indemnity bonds for Nawaz's travel, the court ordered the federal government to remove his name from the Exit Control List (ECL) without any conditions.

A two-judge bench, comprising Justice Ali Baqar Najafi and Justice Sardar Ahmad Naeem, started hearing the petition at 11am and after multiple breaks and back and forth, delivered the verdict close to 6pm.

Initial undertaking submitted by Nawaz Sharif by his lawyer. ─ DawnNewsTV
In the court-approved undertaking, Nawaz assured that he would return "within four weeks" ─ a time frame which was missing in the initial handwritten undertaking.

Nawaz's brother, who appeared in court, hailed the decision, saying the prayers of his mother, the nation and supporters have been granted. He signed an undertaking which stated he would "ensure return" of his brother "within four weeks or on certification by doctors that he has regained his health and is fit to return back to Pakistan".

"I further undertake to provide/send the periodical medical report of the doctor duly notarised by the embassy to the registrar of this court," said the document signed by Shehbaz.

Shehbaz Sharif hails Lahore High Court's verdict on Saturday. — DawnNewsTV
"I also undertake that if at any stage, the federal government has credible information that Mian Mohammad Nawaz Sharif is living abroad despite his fitness to travel, a representative from Pakistan's High Commission would have a right to meet with his physician(s) to verify or confirm about his health."

Senator Faisal Javed of the ruling PTI said it would be decided whether to appeal the court's ruling or not once the written order is available.

Special Assistant to the Prime Minister (SAPM) on Information Firdous Ashiq Awan, while speaking to Geo, said the government has always respected court decisions. However, she reiterated Javed's stance that a decision on appeal has yet to be taken.

Attorney General Anwar Mansoor Khan pointed out that this is an interim order. When asked about appealing the verdict, he said once the detailed order is available, the cabinet would decide the matter.

The attorney general said that the interior ministry is the authority to remove the name from the ECL, however, there are examples from the past in which a person can fly after showing an attested copy of the court order to immigration officials.

Nawaz to leave for London tomorrow: Shehbaz
Following the court orders, Shehbaz Sharif said that an air ambulance will take Nawaz — who has been diagnosed with an immune system disorder — to London, most likely tomorrow.

The PML-N president said that he will be accompanying his elder brother.

"Initially, we are going to London but we will move to any other country as per doctors' advice," he said, adding that if needed, he will stay abroad with his brother.

The PML-N president added that Maryam Nawaz Sharif will remain in the country.

Meanwhile, party spokesperson Marriyum Aurangzeb in a statement said that arrangements were being made on emergency basis to shift Nawaz Sharif abroad for medical treatment.

She said that doctors needed 48 hours to stabilise Nawaz Sharif for a long journey. Doctors are taking measures to avoid heart problems and to maintain Nawaz's platelets count during the journey, she added.

The PML-N leader criticised the government for "creating hurdles in Nawaz Sharif's medical treatment without any justification".

Court drafts undertaking to break impasse
As the government and Sharif brothers during the day-long proceedings had remained at an impasse over the terms of Nawaz Sharif's travel abroad — specifically his return to Pakistan — the LHC said it would draft its own undertaking for the former premier's travel.

During the hearing, Justice Najafi remarked that in his opinion, it was not fair for the government to place conditions after the Islamabad High Court had granted bail to Nawaz Sharif. If Nawaz's health improves, the federal government's board can examine him, the bench pointed out.

After hearing arguments, the court presented its own draft for the undertaking and handed it over to lawyers of both sides for review. The government lawyer said he had some reservations on the draft prepared by the court.

The court, however, announced a four-week relief for the ailing former premier.

Back and forth on written undertaking
A little after 1pm, the court had directed Nawaz and Shehbaz to submit a written undertaking about the former prime minister's travel abroad and his return.

Following the court's directions, the PML-N legal team submitted a handwritten draft of the undertaking by Nawaz, which stated: "I do hereby undertake to return to Pakistan [...] to face the process of law and justice as soon as I am declared healthy and fit to travel to Pakistan by my doctors."

A separate undertaking was submitted by Shehbaz in which he stated: "I undertake to facilitate return of my brother on certification by doctors that he has regained his health and is fit to return to Pakistan."

The hearing was then adjourned until 2:30pm. When it resumed, Additional Attorney General (AAG) Chaudhry Ishtiaq A. Khan, representing the government, opposed the undertaking submitted and said it did not mention when Nawaz would leave Pakistan and when he would return.

He argued that the IHC had granted bail to Nawaz Sharif for a specific time period.

The counsel contended that to ensure the return of Nawaz Sharif, the condition of indemnity bond was placed. He demanded that the petitioners provide a time frame for Nawaz's return.

Khan said that the government had prepared a draft in response to the ones by Nawaz and Shehbaz, under which the government will be able to send, when it deems fit, a medical board abroad to establish whether the former premier could travel or not.

The court clarified that the doctors in United Kingdom would be treating Nawaz while the government's board will do a check up to determine his fitness for travel.

The court suggested to mention in Nawaz's draft that his medical reports would also be shared with the government.

Nawaz Sharif can submit the bonds to the court and not the government, if he wants, the counsel added. The bond is not currency, they are just papers of ownership, he said.

'God will bring him back'
Earlier, the bench asked PML-N President Shehbaz, who was in court for the hearing, if he was willing to guarantee that Nawaz will return. To this, Shehbaz said: "God will bring him back."

PML-N lawyer Amjad Pervez told the court that Nawaz had returned to Pakistan [last year after conviction in Avenfield reference] for the proceedings of the corruption references filed against him by the National Accountability Bureau (NAB). He insisted that the former premier "respects the law".

Pervez further said that the IHC had suspended Nawaz's sentence and argued: "The government cannot interfere while the matter is in the court."

The court asked Nawaz's lawyer if the former premier was willing to submit anything as surety. The bench allowed PML-N's legal team to discuss the matter with Nawaz and adjourned the proceedings for 15 minutes, after which the lawyers held consultations with Shehbaz in the courtroom.

Condition attached to 'uphold court's writ'
In the first half of the hearings, the bench had asked AAG Khan if the memorandum by the interior ministry was "issued on humanitarian basis".

Khan said that the federal government was aware that the Nawaz's condition was "precarious", adding that the PML-N supremo was granted permission by the court to travel abroad for medical treatment. He argued that the condition of furnishing an indemnity bond was added in order to "satisfy the court".

"We imposed conditions to uphold the writ of the court," Khan insisted and said that "if the former prime minister wants to go abroad for treatment, he can go for a specified period of time".

"The court granted a bail of eight weeks to Nawaz Sharif," he said and added: "If Nawaz Sharif wants to go abroad for treatment, he can go, but first he has to satisfy the court.

"If the court is satisfied, we (the government) have no objections.

"If Nawaz Sharif does not want to submit the bonds to the government, then he can submit them to court," the AAG said.

"We will ask Nawaz and Shehbaz Sharif to submit a written undertaking. The federal government can review it," the bench said. "This undertaking will be submitted in court; if the undertaking is not upheld then the law of contempt of court is available."

"The government is also asking for a [written] undertaking," Khan insisted. "So that legal action can be taken if Nawaz Sharif does not return."

Govt's one-time permission for medical care
On Wednesday, the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) government, after much deliberation, had granted a one-time permission to Nawaz for four weeks to travel abroad for his treatment provided he submitted indemnity bonds worth over Rs7.5 billion.

The condition was challenged in LHC by the PML-N legal team, on behalf of the former premier, on Thursday and was taken up by the two-member bench on the same day.

Nawaz, who was diagnosed with an immune system disorder, has been advised to go abroad for medical treatment. The former premier is convicted in two corruption cases and is a suspect in another.

The former prime minister was rushed from Kot Lakhpat jail to the hospital last month after his personal physician Dr Adnan Khan raised an alarm over his deteriorating health. Following this, Shehbaz Sharif had submitted a request to the interior ministry as well as NAB for the removal of Nawaz's name from the ECL so that the former prime minister could travel abroad for medical treatment.

Nawaz, who was incarcerated after an accountability court found him guilty in the Al Azizia corruption reference, was granted bail by the Islamabad High Court on humanitarian grounds. He also obtained bail in the Chaudhry Sugar Mills case, in which he is a suspect, from the LHC.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1517068/l...-govt-to-remove-name-from-ecl-sans-conditions
 
The establishment needs PMLN because they cannot put all their eggs in PTI’s basket.

PTI is a fake party that is standing on the shoulders of lotas in the parliament. Once the Selected is gone, PTI will have no future.

It has no roots and opportunists like SMQ, Fawad Chaudhry, Firdous Awan etc. etc. will be absorbed into other parties.

However, parties like PMLN and PPP will survive for generations. Imran has been side-stepped by the real authority and he is helpless now.
 
szundercover said:
Mamoon why don't you thank the establishment when they are allowing your saviour to go to london scotch free without even returning a single penny to the national treasury?
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They are doing it for selfish reasons. They don’t deserve thanks.
 
Mamoon said:
The establishment needs PMLN because they cannot put all their eggs in PTI’s basket.

PTI is a fake party that is standing on the shoulders of lotas in the parliament. Once the Selected is gone, PTI will have no future.

It has no roots and opportunists like SMQ, Fawad Chaudhry, Firdous Awan etc. etc. will be absorbed into other parties.

However, parties like PMLN and PPP will survive for generations. Imran has been side-stepped by the real authority and he is helpless now.
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Wrong.

The corrupt leader won't come back in power.

People you mention (SMQ, Fawad Chaudhry, Firdous Awan) will continue their politics.
 
"We imposed conditions to uphold the writ of the court," Khan insisted and said that "if the former prime minister wants to go abroad for treatment, he can go for a specified period of time".

"The court granted a bail of eight weeks to Nawaz Sharif," he said and added: "If Nawaz Sharif wants to go abroad for treatment, he can go, but first he has to satisfy the court.

"If the court is satisfied, we (the government) have no objections."
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Imran Khan is correct. As far as the democracy and the Republic are concerned.

But a question for courts:

Can other convicts who are in jail also ask the Europe travel if they complete all the requirements the thief did?

This is a circus and the judges are a bunch of clowns. Are we in wild west or something? 😒
 
MenInG said:
The Lahore High Court on Saturday allowed former premier Nawaz Sharif to travel abroad for four weeks for medical treatment, saying the duration could be extended based on medical reports.

In a blow to the government, which had placed a condition of indemnity bonds for Nawaz's travel, the court ordered the federal government to remove his name from the Exit Control List (ECL) without any conditions.

A two-judge bench, comprising Justice Ali Baqar Najafi and Justice Sardar Ahmad Naeem, started hearing the petition at 11am and after multiple breaks and back and forth, delivered the verdict close to 6pm.

Initial undertaking submitted by Nawaz Sharif by his lawyer. ─ DawnNewsTV
In the court-approved undertaking, Nawaz assured that he would return "within four weeks" ─ a time frame which was missing in the initial handwritten undertaking.

Nawaz's brother, who appeared in court, hailed the decision, saying the prayers of his mother, the nation and supporters have been granted. He signed an undertaking which stated he would "ensure return" of his brother "within four weeks or on certification by doctors that he has regained his health and is fit to return back to Pakistan".

"I further undertake to provide/send the periodical medical report of the doctor duly notarised by the embassy to the registrar of this court," said the document signed by Shehbaz.

Shehbaz Sharif hails Lahore High Court's verdict on Saturday. — DawnNewsTV
"I also undertake that if at any stage, the federal government has credible information that Mian Mohammad Nawaz Sharif is living abroad despite his fitness to travel, a representative from Pakistan's High Commission would have a right to meet with his physician(s) to verify or confirm about his health."

Senator Faisal Javed of the ruling PTI said it would be decided whether to appeal the court's ruling or not once the written order is available.

Special Assistant to the Prime Minister (SAPM) on Information Firdous Ashiq Awan, while speaking to Geo, said the government has always respected court decisions. However, she reiterated Javed's stance that a decision on appeal has yet to be taken.

Attorney General Anwar Mansoor Khan pointed out that this is an interim order. When asked about appealing the verdict, he said once the detailed order is available, the cabinet would decide the matter.

The attorney general said that the interior ministry is the authority to remove the name from the ECL, however, there are examples from the past in which a person can fly after showing an attested copy of the court order to immigration officials.

Nawaz to leave for London tomorrow: Shehbaz
Following the court orders, Shehbaz Sharif said that an air ambulance will take Nawaz — who has been diagnosed with an immune system disorder — to London, most likely tomorrow.

The PML-N president said that he will be accompanying his elder brother.

"Initially, we are going to London but we will move to any other country as per doctors' advice," he said, adding that if needed, he will stay abroad with his brother.

The PML-N president added that Maryam Nawaz Sharif will remain in the country.

Meanwhile, party spokesperson Marriyum Aurangzeb in a statement said that arrangements were being made on emergency basis to shift Nawaz Sharif abroad for medical treatment.

She said that doctors needed 48 hours to stabilise Nawaz Sharif for a long journey. Doctors are taking measures to avoid heart problems and to maintain Nawaz's platelets count during the journey, she added.

The PML-N leader criticised the government for "creating hurdles in Nawaz Sharif's medical treatment without any justification".

Court drafts undertaking to break impasse
As the government and Sharif brothers during the day-long proceedings had remained at an impasse over the terms of Nawaz Sharif's travel abroad — specifically his return to Pakistan — the LHC said it would draft its own undertaking for the former premier's travel.

During the hearing, Justice Najafi remarked that in his opinion, it was not fair for the government to place conditions after the Islamabad High Court had granted bail to Nawaz Sharif. If Nawaz's health improves, the federal government's board can examine him, the bench pointed out.

After hearing arguments, the court presented its own draft for the undertaking and handed it over to lawyers of both sides for review. The government lawyer said he had some reservations on the draft prepared by the court.

The court, however, announced a four-week relief for the ailing former premier.

Back and forth on written undertaking
A little after 1pm, the court had directed Nawaz and Shehbaz to submit a written undertaking about the former prime minister's travel abroad and his return.

Following the court's directions, the PML-N legal team submitted a handwritten draft of the undertaking by Nawaz, which stated: "I do hereby undertake to return to Pakistan [...] to face the process of law and justice as soon as I am declared healthy and fit to travel to Pakistan by my doctors."

A separate undertaking was submitted by Shehbaz in which he stated: "I undertake to facilitate return of my brother on certification by doctors that he has regained his health and is fit to return to Pakistan."

The hearing was then adjourned until 2:30pm. When it resumed, Additional Attorney General (AAG) Chaudhry Ishtiaq A. Khan, representing the government, opposed the undertaking submitted and said it did not mention when Nawaz would leave Pakistan and when he would return.

He argued that the IHC had granted bail to Nawaz Sharif for a specific time period.

The counsel contended that to ensure the return of Nawaz Sharif, the condition of indemnity bond was placed. He demanded that the petitioners provide a time frame for Nawaz's return.

Khan said that the government had prepared a draft in response to the ones by Nawaz and Shehbaz, under which the government will be able to send, when it deems fit, a medical board abroad to establish whether the former premier could travel or not.

The court clarified that the doctors in United Kingdom would be treating Nawaz while the government's board will do a check up to determine his fitness for travel.

The court suggested to mention in Nawaz's draft that his medical reports would also be shared with the government.

Nawaz Sharif can submit the bonds to the court and not the government, if he wants, the counsel added. The bond is not currency, they are just papers of ownership, he said.

'God will bring him back'
Earlier, the bench asked PML-N President Shehbaz, who was in court for the hearing, if he was willing to guarantee that Nawaz will return. To this, Shehbaz said: "God will bring him back."

PML-N lawyer Amjad Pervez told the court that Nawaz had returned to Pakistan [last year after conviction in Avenfield reference] for the proceedings of the corruption references filed against him by the National Accountability Bureau (NAB). He insisted that the former premier "respects the law".

Pervez further said that the IHC had suspended Nawaz's sentence and argued: "The government cannot interfere while the matter is in the court."

The court asked Nawaz's lawyer if the former premier was willing to submit anything as surety. The bench allowed PML-N's legal team to discuss the matter with Nawaz and adjourned the proceedings for 15 minutes, after which the lawyers held consultations with Shehbaz in the courtroom.

Condition attached to 'uphold court's writ'
In the first half of the hearings, the bench had asked AAG Khan if the memorandum by the interior ministry was "issued on humanitarian basis".

Khan said that the federal government was aware that the Nawaz's condition was "precarious", adding that the PML-N supremo was granted permission by the court to travel abroad for medical treatment. He argued that the condition of furnishing an indemnity bond was added in order to "satisfy the court".

"We imposed conditions to uphold the writ of the court," Khan insisted and said that "if the former prime minister wants to go abroad for treatment, he can go for a specified period of time".

"The court granted a bail of eight weeks to Nawaz Sharif," he said and added: "If Nawaz Sharif wants to go abroad for treatment, he can go, but first he has to satisfy the court.

"If the court is satisfied, we (the government) have no objections.

"If Nawaz Sharif does not want to submit the bonds to the government, then he can submit them to court," the AAG said.

"We will ask Nawaz and Shehbaz Sharif to submit a written undertaking. The federal government can review it," the bench said. "This undertaking will be submitted in court; if the undertaking is not upheld then the law of contempt of court is available."

"The government is also asking for a [written] undertaking," Khan insisted. "So that legal action can be taken if Nawaz Sharif does not return."

Govt's one-time permission for medical care
On Wednesday, the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) government, after much deliberation, had granted a one-time permission to Nawaz for four weeks to travel abroad for his treatment provided he submitted indemnity bonds worth over Rs7.5 billion.

The condition was challenged in LHC by the PML-N legal team, on behalf of the former premier, on Thursday and was taken up by the two-member bench on the same day.

Nawaz, who was diagnosed with an immune system disorder, has been advised to go abroad for medical treatment. The former premier is convicted in two corruption cases and is a suspect in another.

The former prime minister was rushed from Kot Lakhpat jail to the hospital last month after his personal physician Dr Adnan Khan raised an alarm over his deteriorating health. Following this, Shehbaz Sharif had submitted a request to the interior ministry as well as NAB for the removal of Nawaz's name from the ECL so that the former prime minister could travel abroad for medical treatment.

Nawaz, who was incarcerated after an accountability court found him guilty in the Al Azizia corruption reference, was granted bail by the Islamabad High Court on humanitarian grounds. He also obtained bail in the Chaudhry Sugar Mills case, in which he is a suspect, from the LHC.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1517068/l...-govt-to-remove-name-from-ecl-sans-conditions
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So the LHC is saying that any criminal can give a hand written note saying that they will return, and based on that you can go abroad! Lol
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

Exactly, also if god forbid anything happened to Nawaz Sharif, he will get a cult following.

Establishment has made a mockery of Imran Khan and his agenda of pak saaf pakistan.

Well, Khan himself is beneficiary of corruption.
 
Bewal Express said:
So the LHC is saying that any criminal can give a hand written note saying that they will return, and based on that you can go abroad! Lol
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They will return, they have too much to lose by not returning to Pakistan.

Their existence and popularity is depended to Pakistan.
 
Hamza_ said:
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

Exactly, also if god forbid anything happened to Nawaz Sharif, he will get a cult following.

Establishment has made a mockery of Imran Khan and his agenda of pak saaf pakistan.

Well, Khan himself is beneficiary of corruption.
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LoL, you sound like a man child.
 
Hamza_ said:
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

Exactly, also if god forbid anything happened to Nawaz Sharif, he will get a cult following.

Establishment has made a mockery of Imran Khan and his agenda of pak saaf pakistan.

Well, Khan himself is beneficiary of corruption.
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Liar
 
Bewal Express said:
So the LHC is saying that any criminal can give a hand written note saying that they will return, and based on that you can go abroad! Lol
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Amen. If I'm a rich prisoner in state of Pakistan; I should be calling my lawyer right now.

The very guardians of law, order and constitution are making a mockery of it.

Only in Pakistan! 💪

Today, for the first time I'm realising India might be a better country than Pakistan. At least they respect their constitution, laws and their honourable judges don't cave in to thieves!
 
kk1992 said:
Wrong.

The corrupt leader won't come back in power.

People you mention (SMQ, Fawad Chaudhry, Firdous Awan) will continue their politics.
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We were also told that the so-called corrupt leaders are behind the bars now and justice has been served.

Then we were told that the corrupt leaders are going to come out only after they pay $12 billion.

And here we are - he is out without paying a penny, which is what I told you two weeks ago.

He may not have a future in politics because of his age and health, but Maryam does.
 
I love it how Mamoon supports and disses the so called Establishment as per convenience.
 
Hamza_ said:
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

Exactly, also if god forbid anything happened to Nawaz Sharif, he will get a cult following.

Establishment has made a mockery of Imran Khan and his agenda of pak saaf pakistan.

Well, Khan himself is beneficiary of corruption.
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He availed an amnesty scheme in 2000 and then tweeted 10 years later that amnesty schemes are not justified under any circumstances, before handing them out after becoming the (selected) PM.

A confused individual who has no self-control and long-term vision.

Not only him but his family are beneficiaries as well.
 
Mamoon said:
We were also told that the so-called corrupt leaders are behind the bars now and justice has been served.

Then we were told that the corrupt leaders are going to come out only after they pay $12 billion.

And here we are - he is out without paying a penny, which is what I told you two weeks ago.

He may not have a future in politics because of his age and health, but Maryam does.
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LOL, Maryam will never going to be PM of Pakistan let alone CM or governor of Punjab.

This episode had to be ended and the government has played smart.

The amount (12 billion) was never announced by government, only by few anchors so they can have you click on their video out of excitement.

NS will come back, he has no choice but to come back to in hope to secure family future.
 
kk1992 said:
LOL, Maryam will never going to be PM of Pakistan let alone CM or governor of Punjab.

This episode had to be ended and the government has played smart.

The amount (12 billion) was never announced by government, only by few anchors so they can have you click on their video out of excitement.

NS will come back, he has no choice but to come back to in hope to secure family future.
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The government hasn’t played smart; the government has been played by smarter people.
 
Savak said:
I love it how Mamoon supports and disses the so called Establishment as per convenience.
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Not only that but switches narrative as long as that narrative can make him sound like he is thinking out of box. lol
 
Mamoon said:
We were also told that the so-called corrupt leaders are behind the bars now and justice has been served.

Then we were told that the corrupt leaders are going to come out only after they pay $12 billion.

And here we are - he is out without paying a penny, which is what I told you two weeks ago.

He may not have a future in politics because of his age and health, but Maryam does.
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And I told you( with literally everyone else) that LHC would find a way to free him , and that's the reason he ain't paying. If this was China or Saudi, he would be paying, so what does that tell about where the problem lies. You ran the other day when told you that his flats in London are worth £80mn, are you saying that money was earnt legally? And that's just scratching the surface!
 
Mamoon said:
The government hasn’t played smart; the government has been played by smarter people.
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No!.

Like i have said, you are not reading the writing on the wall.

but again you will come back with new switched narrative to appear smart for that particular moment.
 
Establishment have come to Nawaz, Nawaz didn’t go begging to them.
 
kk1992 said:
No!.

Like i have said, you are not reading the writing on the wall.

but again you will come back with new switched narrative to appear smart for that particular moment.
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The only writing on the wall is that PTI has been humiliated and Imran’s accountability narrative has been exposed.
 
Mamoon said:
The only writing on the wall is that PTI has been humiliated and Imran’s accountability narrative has been exposed.
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accountability is what you do with your deed and actions.

You can't be blame for the accountability of the others.

Nothing has been exposed.

lol
 
Mamoon said:
The only writing on the wall is that PTI has been humiliated and Imran’s accountability narrative has been exposed.
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So if someone kills your family member and the judges let him off, that means that you are exposed as corrupt and should feel humiliated . Interesting logic
 
Hafeez right now is under massive patwari attack after this tweet...
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Great news Ex PM Nawaz sharif sb can travel to abroad for medical treatment &#55357;&#56397;&#55356;&#57340;,Highest medical panel decided that he needs to go to abroad so did our Judiciary admitted lack of medical assistance in Pakistan It means we 200 Millions Pakistani r not safe here ??? Just asking</p>— Mohammad Hafeez (@MHafeez22) <a href="https://twitter.com/MHafeez22/status/1195693106580066305?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
WebGuru said:
Hafeez right now is under massive patwari attack after this tweet...
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Great news Ex PM Nawaz sharif sb can travel to abroad for medical treatment ����,Highest medical panel decided that he needs to go to abroad so did our Judiciary admitted lack of medical assistance in Pakistan It means we 200 Millions Pakistani r not safe here ??? Just asking</p>— Mohammad Hafeez (@MHafeez22) <a href="https://twitter.com/MHafeez22/status/1195693106580066305?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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He may be an average cricketer but that is destructive.
 
WebGuru said:
Hafeez right now is under massive patwari attack after this tweet...
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Great news Ex PM Nawaz sharif sb can travel to abroad for medical treatment ����,Highest medical panel decided that he needs to go to abroad so did our Judiciary admitted lack of medical assistance in Pakistan It means we 200 Millions Pakistani r not safe here ??? Just asking</p>— Mohammad Hafeez (@MHafeez22) <a href="https://twitter.com/MHafeez22/status/1195693106580066305?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Keep saying it, government had played smart.
 
Establishment, GHQ and all their acts automatically become Halal if they are on bed with PMLN civil supremacy and vote ko izat do can take a break : )

#RIPLogic
 
Mamoon said:
Establishment have come to Nawaz, Nawaz didn’t go begging to them.
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But Nooras on here are claiming they are back in bed with the army. Your lies getting exposed again. Look at what your friend Hamza said earlier. Too scared to call him out
 
WebGuru said:
Establishment, GHQ and all their acts automatically become Halal if they are on bed with PMLN civil supremacy and vote ko izat do can take a break : )

#RIPLogic
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They are back in bed with the big bad army, so what will become of the Noora political slogans?
 
Establishment itself wants Nawaz to go. They don't want him to be another bhutto
 
Bewal Express said:
They are back in bed with the big bad army, so what will become of the Noora political slogans?
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As i said "civil supremacy and vote ko izat do can take a break" PMLN and Sharifs are married to GHQ again after their third divorce according to their own supporters :)) (I am not buying this theory yet)
 
Instead of questioning their leadership who sold them the slogan of civil supremacy patwaris are claiming and chanting their leaders have made a deal with establishment!
 
WebGuru said:
Instead of questioning their leadership who sold them the slogan of civil supremacy patwaris are claiming and chanting their leaders have made a deal with establishment!
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A narrative sold to them like little children has been jettisoned in a day.
 
Hamza_ said:
Tbf, Khan never had any ghairat afterall with all the lies.
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Remind me again who lied about a secret agreement to his supporters and nation for 8 freaking years?

EJglGTsXsAAhdz7
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You get treatment from doctors in UK all the time yourself, sir. You preferred to get treatment for fractured right thumb in Manchester just a few months back. <a href="https://t.co/OZIPtDAkJf">https://t.co/OZIPtDAkJf</a></p>— Murtaza Ali Shah (@MurtazaViews) <a href="https://twitter.com/MurtazaViews/status/1195707070357680128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 16, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Mamoon said:
They are doing it for selfish reasons. They don’t deserve thanks.
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General Pasha, as DG ISI, forced many PML-Q politicians like Jahangir Tareen to join PTI. Chaudhry Pervez Elahi tells Saleem Saafi on GEO TV. I quoted this from salman masood a correspondent for the nation (from twitter).
 
Hamza_ said:
NS said no to make your leader look like mickey mouse. [MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION]
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So you are saying that Faking illness and Begging the courts to let him go was part of his plan to make IK look bad ? And then you accused IK of being liar, Dumb is the kindest way to describe your posts.
 
Hamza_ said:
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

Exactly, also if god forbid anything happened to Nawaz Sharif, he will get a cult following.

Establishment has made a mockery of Imran Khan and his agenda of pak saaf pakistan.

Well, Khan himself is beneficiary of corruption.
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How on earth is a khan a beneficiary of corruption? Please enlighten me his offshore companies which he made during his tenure as pm of Pakistan?
 
Well our Dawn walas still find a reason to put PTI in the tweet while criticizing PMLN (for siding with estab again) and PPP (for siding with maulana's while he was chanting anti ahmedi slogans)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From now on <a href="https://twitter.com/PTIofficial?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PTIofficial</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/pml_n?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@pml_n</a> walas have no legs to stand on their narrative. Oh and PPP's narrative has long died <a href="https://twitter.com/PPP_Org?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PPP_Org</a></p>— Mubashir Zaidi (@Xadeejournalist) <a href="https://twitter.com/Xadeejournalist/status/1195722638263488513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
WebGuru said:
Hafeez Sheikh is not IK go home brother you are really confused right now after the tricky situation.
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Hafeez sheikh and dr raza baqir are the economic hitmen.Just look at what raza baqir did to Egypt.Egyptian economy is in shambles.
 
After ruling Punjab and Pakistan for 30+ years Shahbaz today admitted in his court statement that there is not a single good hospital in Pakistan to treat Mian sahab!
 
szundercover said:
Hafeez sheikh and dr raza baqir are the economic hitmen.Just look at what raza baqir did to Egypt.Egyptian economy is in shambles.
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I know brother this post was in a different context if you check the post i quoted with this comment.
 
szundercover said:
Hafeez sheikh and dr raza baqir are the economic hitmen.Just look at what raza baqir did to Egypt.Egyptian economy is in shambles.
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So far they have done a good job considering the situation they inherited, unless you have some alternative idea, which I am happy to read.
 
WebGuru said:
After ruling Punjab and Pakistan for 30+ years Shahbaz today admitted in his court statement that there is not a single good hospital in Pakistan to treat Mian sahab!
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I was looking for the video where he claimed that Punjab hospitals were the best in the world. If you can find it, please tag in Hamza the Noora.
 
Bewal Express said:
So far they have done a good job considering the situation they inherited, unless you have some alternative idea, which I am happy to read.
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I am just saying hafeez sheikh was the finance minister during asif ZardariI tenure.Why didn't he fix the economy then ,same goes for raza baqir who served the Egyptian government but made things worse.This is an similar scenario to cricket where you try ttfs like akmals and shezads and expect them to revoultionalize our batting but in fact it turns out the opposite.
 
WebGuru said:
After ruling Punjab and Pakistan for 30+ years Shahbaz today admitted in his court statement that there is not a single good hospital in Pakistan to treat Mian sahab!
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LOL He should go with his big brother and arrange the best psychologist for the best possible treatment so both the mian brothers can return to goodshape and serve the PakistanI nation with zeal and passion.
 
szundercover said:
I am just saying hafeez sheikh was the finance minister during asif ZardariI tenure.Why didn't he fix the economy then ,same goes for raza baqir who served the Egyptian government but made things worse.This is an similar scenario to cricket where you try ttfs like akmals and shezads and expect them to revoultionalize our batting but in fact it turns out the opposite.
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When you borrow money from the IMF you lose the independence. PK was bankrupt when IK came to power because the Nooras had borrowed and imported their way to a economic growth. Exports were only 24bn while imports were 55bn, and that is a 30bn+ gap. Who came up with this great economic policy- yes Dar and NS, so anyone that cuts back, looks bad. But so far they have taken the hit and done the right thing and the policies have started to work.
 
Bewal Express said:
I was looking for the video where he claimed that Punjab hospitals were the best in the world. If you can find it, please tag in Hamza the Noora.
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Watch from 1:30 and get to know about this azeem state of the art haspataal shobaz opened in a tehsil of Punjab!

<iframe width="640" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/UtUrN5jO5fQ" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>
 
szundercover said:
LOL He should go with his big brother and arrange the best psychologist for the best possible treatment so both the mian brothers can return to goodshape and serve the PakistanI nation with zeal and passion.
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He is going with his brother but Shahbaz will return in a few days no doubt about it he is looking forward to his own political career because he wanted to sideline bere mian sahab's family and this is the best opportunity for him.
 
I am wondering what will happened to Maryam's bail if she is nto going to London? She was only out to take care of her father.
 
WebGuru said:
He is going with his brother but Shahbaz will return in a few days no doubt about it he is looking forward to his own political career because he wanted to sideline bere mian sahab's family and this is the best opportunity for him.
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SS is happy that his brother has left the country so that he becomes leader. You couldn't make it up.
 
WebGuru said:
I am wondering what will happened to Maryam's bail if she is nto going to London? She was only out to take care of her father.
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No doubt LHC will find some other excuse. The poor Nani will continue to be let out because of the trauma of daddy leaving the country. Lol
 
Ok guys time to cool down here.

By all means put your points forward but stop getting personal etc
 
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