New Zealand v Pakistan | 1st Test | Christchurch | Nov 17-21, 2016 | Day 2

[Zeshan547]

Allah buri nazar se bchaey, so far so good,

 

[waleed88]

Man Southee has been so bad, [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] should watch this

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Pitch not doing that much tbh and very well left as usual from Sami Aslam as yet

 

[MRSN]

He barely swung the ball in England.. Cook owned him in the 4 games they played

well when you drop him off his bowling he will surely own. To be honest pitches in England were rather flat. conditons were not typical England pitches we know. Even their own bowlers didn't make the ball swung much. I have really high hopes from Amir in this game. let's see.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Southee wasting the new ball here

 

[Aman]

Henry should have been selected over Southee...

 

[Adnan_Ilyas]

Come on boys hit some runs

 

[world cup captain]

Good to see the boys play some cricket on a lively pitch.

 

[MRSN]

Southee has been awful.

 

[Aman]

Southee has been awful.

He has been for a while now..

 

[MMHS]

But Wahab isn't playing

Saw that - must have been some thing wrong. Now I see Rahat in the XI, which is the correct decision, but somewhere I get a feeling that they are playing Wahab.

 

[pak4life]

Problem with two similar openers is we are not going anywhere. Sooner or later they will nick one.

 

[90MPH]

Southee wasting the new ball.

Boult much more on the money.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Henry should have been selected over Southee...

Agreed. No rhythm in Southee's bowling whatsoever.

 

[MRSN]

Southee wasting the new ball here

Pakistan camp must be enjoying this. They need this pair to see off the new ball.

 

[waleed88]

Southee's waywardness is contagious

 

[Aman]

Problem with two similar openers is we are not going anywhere. Sooner or later they will nick one.

They're seeing off the new ball and frustrating an already mentally shot NZ side.

 

[waleed88]

Left and right combination also is disturbing the rhythm of the bowlers

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Is this all rounder that New Zealand are playing any good?

 

[MRSN]

Problem with two similar openers is we are not going anywhere. Sooner or later they will nick one.

yeah unlike dead UAE pitches we can't bore bowlers to death lol. There will be chances batsmen need to put the bad balls away.

 

[MMHS]

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] bhai went on his usual rant against Misbah without realizing Rahat is playing...

I do back Misbah when he deserve that - but not when Zulfi is taken to UK or played in UAE; then Nawaz is played for 10 overs & finally when you need to defend 153, not bowling Zulfi.

I think, it might be a correction in CI - I didn't notice Rahat first time - may be mixed with preview.

 

[London_Lahori]

Beautiful ground.

Not sure why people are saying it's not swinging, it clearly is.

 

[Aman]

May as well give Wagner the ball, we're not going to get wickets with Southee.

 

[waleed88]

There is nothing on the pitch if you just bowl it short of good length

 

[Zeshan547]

Even if we survive this green mamba, some certain posters still gonna cry, only God can help them.

 

[shaz619]

Saw that - must have been some thing wrong. Now I see Rahat in the XI, which is the correct decision, but somewhere I get a feeling that they are playing Wahab.

You were wrong in suggesting Wahab would be picked because Misbah likes his settled XI

 

[waleed88]

This is like a UAE pitch unless you pitch it up then you get some shape on the ball

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Problem with two similar openers is we are not going anywhere. Sooner or later they will nick one.

Rotate the strike to frustrate the bowlers. They will start to bowl bad balls. Cash-in on every bad ball. Perfect formula for this kind of pitch.

 

[Aman]

There is nothing on the pitch if you just bowl it short of good length

The pitch is good, the bowlers bowling on it.. not so much..

We probably would have been 1 or 2 down if we were batting first.

 

[London_Lahori]

If you weren't watching and looking at Southee's figures, you'd think he was all over us.

 

[waleed88]

Southee looks more comfortable against Right Handers

 

[troodon]

Is the pitch deceptive or the Kiwi bowlers simply pathetic so far?

Have not seen one genuinely beaten delivery from both Southee and Boult.

 

[MMHS]

This looks like a beautiful pitch to bat on.. there is no menace in it unless its pitched up... Don't think Amir will be effective here [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION], his pace is the same as Bolt's

There is score board pressure, also in NZ, you have to consider wind factor. When it blows, any bowler can be twice lethal.

On contrary, I feel Kiwis are a bit wider than they should be with new ball - that tactics can be effective against Warner, but I think against Azhar & Sami, you have to make them play & drive on front foot.

 

[mz123]

just imagine how much sharjeel would have already scored vs southee...

 

[troodon]

First 30 minutes of the match and Southee already trundling at 125kmph

 

[Hasan123]

Need Azhar and Sami to survive 10 more overs.

 

[waleed88]

This is an opening pair that hasn't played even a practice game on these pitches... Southee should be ashamed of himself

 

[Aman]

Is the pitch deceptive or the Kiwi bowlers simply pathetic so far?

Have not seen one genuinely beaten delivery from both Southee and Boult.

Lines all over the place, Pakistan looking good for a big total.

 

[angrypathan]

 

[90MPH]

Nice shot Azhar :4

 

[Mamoon]

Man Southee has been so bad, [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] should watch this

Southee has been mediocre for a while but is an automatic selection based on his reputation.

Henry is a much superior bowler now, but he's vastly underrated by the NZ management. He should partner Boult who is getting back to his best after his injury.

 

[waleed88]

4!!!!!!

 

[Aman]

Get Bond out there... a 45 year old Bond is still better than Southee and Boult..

 

[Mamoon]

People complaining about the RR already.

 

[mz123]

Southee has been mediocre for a while but is an automatic selection based on his reputation.

Henry is a much superior bowler now, but he's vastly underrated by the NZ management. He should partner Boult who is getting back to his best after his injury.

Are you impressed with sami ?

 

[Mamoon]

Are you impressed with sami ?

Much improved player, but I'm not sure if he's the ideal partner for Azhar on UAE/Asian pitches. We need a more dynamic opener on those wickets.

For overseas conditions, this is our ideal pair.

 

[waleed88]

Jason Holder was hopping these batsmen around in UAE conditions... this should worry the NZ attack.. they're not as good as made out to be

 

[MMHS]

You were wrong in suggesting Wahab would be picked because Misbah likes his settled XI

No, actually opposite - Wahab should be never picked in NZ - not at CChurch, Hamilton, Dunedin, Auckland & Napier; may be at Wellington he can be effective with wind blowing behind. I was a bit upset looking at Wahab's name (may be mistakenly) & felt that, it can only be Misnah's choice. In ideal case, Wahab should have been picked for NZ tour - a seem-all-rounder should have been picked.

There is horses for courses - I was some one posted 10 to 12 times why Wahab should be must for UAE & Oval; but not here.

 

[Aman]

They want Sharjeel in these conditions

Sharjeel would have feasted on this bowling, they haven't been able to bowl two probing deliveries consecutively.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Is the pitch deceptive or the Kiwi bowlers simply pathetic so far?

Have not seen one genuinely beaten delivery from both Southee and Boult.

Our openers know where their offstump is. First time in decades.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Azhar and Sami leaving impeccably so far.

Don't worry about RR guys. Need to frustrate bowlers and then cash-in on bad balls.

 

[troodon]

Pak should not worry about RR and grind out these Kiwi pacers.

If Pak manages to lose only 1 wicket by lunch time, they will win this Test.

Amir and Rahat will tear away Kiwi batting on this green track.

 

[angrypathan]

Grandhomme seems like one of those rubbish players we'd gift a 5fer to

 

[heddie19]

Good batting by sami and ajju. Need to accelerate a bit now.

 

[Aman]

Lmao a debutant A/R being brought in to replace Southee while the ball is still new.

 

[troodon]

Sharjeel would have murdered this off rhythm Kiwi trundlers.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Grandhomme seems like one of those rubbish players we'd gift a 5fer to

Got exactly the same feeling.

 

[Square Drive]

Good, sedate start.

Getting a bad feeling about de Grandhomme, though...

 

[waleed88]

Oh this is an unseen bowler, he will cause us problems.. our batsmen have seen videos of Boult and Southee but this guy will be a surprise

 

[MMHS]

[MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] - are they using Kookaburra?

 

[troodon]

Mark Ealham is now playing for New Zealand

 

[Aman]

[MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] - are they using Kookaburra?

Yes.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Sharjeel would have murdered this off rhythm Kiwi trundlers.

PAK can't afford to take the gamble and I think its reasonable since we've had ZERO match practice.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

This debutant looks like one of those Englishmen in 'Lagaan' lol

He's Zimbabwean born. Add him to the list of Jarvis/Ballance/Currans/Ervine of lost Zimbabwean cricketing talents.

 

[waleed88]

We gonna make this guy NZ's Chris Woakes

 

[On_the_up]

Very good effort by these openers considering its their first knock on the tour.

 

[MMHS]

Yes.

Then it's really a poor bowling effort, I must say. PAK pair had survived the opening bowling & Kiwis are already to the medium pacer.

 

[shaz619]

No, actually opposite - Wahab should be never picked in NZ - not at CChurch, Hamilton, Dunedin, Auckland & Napier; may be at Wellington he can be effective with wind blowing behind. I was a bit upset looking at Wahab's name (may be mistakenly) & felt that, it can only be Misnah's choice. In ideal case, Wahab should have been picked for NZ tour - a seem-all-rounder should have been picked.

There is horses for courses - I was some one posted 10 to 12 times why Wahab should be must for UAE & Oval; but not here.

You suggested that Misbah would not drop Wahab and that he would pick him. You said Rahat was suitable for these conditions and deserves to be selected or Imran ahead of Wahab. I understand that you mistakenly thought Wahab was picked but you still suggested that it can only be Misbah's choice, but Rahat has ben picked and you were wrong on that point.

 

[London_Lahori]

Guys I feel the second part of this session will be the toughest to face, pitch might quicken up and movement will be quicker.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Sami starting to play his shots.

 

[Aman]

Leaving out Henry for Southee was a huge mistake, hopefully Southee is dropped after this Test.

He shouldn't be playing Test cricket.

 

[waleed88]

Love the appreciation Pakistan is getting

 

[London_Lahori]

This guy on debut scares me.

 

[waleed88]

Lol I saw Misbah padded up already sitting in the dressing.. this shows the guy's commitment ; he knows it can go south anytime, and even though he is no.5 he's still padded up if all else fails..

What a guy man

 

[MMHS]

You suggested that Misbah would not drop Wahab and that he would pick him. You said Rahat was suitable for these conditions and deserves to be selected or Imran ahead of Wahab. I understand that you mistakenly thought Wahab was picked but you still suggested that it can only be Misbah's choice, but Rahat has ben picked and you were wrong on that point.

Read it this way - Wahab should be 5th choice; but I saw him in the list - may be my mistake, but my comments stand as he was in playing in XI; which can't be Arthur's choice, can't be the Manager or selectors - therefore, it can only be Misbah's choice, as he has a tendency of playing with same team. I think, like me many others thought same in the thread where Misbah quoted that the XI was already selected.

 

[waleed88]

Then it's really a poor bowling effort, I must say. PAK pair had survived the opening bowling & Kiwis are already to the medium pacer.

Very poor considering this team hasn't played a practice match

 

[waleed88]

Man I love the running between the wickets.. this is a welcome addition to our opening pair

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Yes the bowling hasn't been great but this is superb batting

 

[MMHS]

Very poor considering this team hasn't played a practice match

It's 98 overs (7 hours) day - if Kiwis doesn't have a good start, & PAK plays to take advantage, Kiwis will be in trouble after tea. I think, Yasir'll trouble the batting side, if he has 450 to defend. Teams like NZ must target couple of wickets with new Kookaburra.

 

[Mamoon]

Very good batting so far.