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New Zealand v Pakistan | 2nd Test | Hamilton | Nov 25-29, 2016 | Day 3

Junaids said:
Mickey Arthur has been saying for months that numbers 10 and 11 need to hold an end up and score some runs.

Imran Khan needs to save his career with the bat!
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Surviving seven balls is not the way to impress the boss.

Imran Khan needs to take about 7-15 to wipe that gutless innings from Mickey Arthur's memory bank.
 
Unbelievable. Feel so bad for Babar. Brainless batting. I understand that you're a pathetic batsman but why did you have to do that?
 
Pakistan bowler have to raise there game here , they need couple of them bowling some good solid spells.
 
Babar really deserved a ton but this pathetic, brainless tailender obviously had other plans
 
If Imran had scored 4 not out from 35 balls then Babar would have got a ton and the deficit would have been around 25 instead of 55.

I am absolutely disgusted by his lack of professionalism.
 
Snatch said:
Yep, If numbers 10 & 11 had just both scored hundreds, Pakistan could have got a 150 run lead.

Clearly the tails fault.
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The top order failed, but against an old ball the last four wickets should put on a lot more than 24 runs.
 
Yes Imran play poorly but he is a number 11 for a reason.

Babar shouldn't have exposed a number 11 to an entire over like that.
 
The selectors should say to Imran Khan "you are ineligible for national selection until you make three domestic First Class fifties."
 
blackanhyellow said:
Yes Imran play poorly but he is a number 11 for a reason.

Babar shouldn't have exposed a number 11 to an entire over like that.
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Not his fault. He could've taken a gimme on the 4th ball of the previous over but Imran would've gotten out in the next 2 balls. He got a boundary and then NZ bowled a bouncer and it wasn't possible to take a single. This is all pathetic Imrans fault and anyone who denies it is just stupid
 
Junaids said:
The selectors should say to Imran Khan "you are ineligible for national selection until you make three domestic First Class fifties."
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This pathetic player can't make a 20 in gully cricket forget about 50 in first class
 
Well this is a perfect opportunity, to bring out that old Pakistani pace magic.....
 
In all fairness, it's harsh to blame everything on Imran. He is a proper no.11, Irfan/Martin level no.11. Here is a guy who scored his first test run after 7 test matches, I wouldn't trust him to hang around for 3 runs, let alone 14 runs when Imran came to the crease (Babar was 86* then). Blame must go to Wahab and Amir who batted like novices, they have experience and they should have hung around with Babar instead of going in an over or so..
 
Pakistan bowlers have to come here , and Azhar needs to have attacking field , must look to get wickets here.
 
aliasad1998 said:
Not his fault. He could've taken a gimme on the 4th ball of the previous over but Imran would've gotten out in the next 2 balls. He got a boundary and then NZ bowled a bouncer and it wasn't possible to take a single. This is all pathetic Imrans fault and anyone who denies it is just stupid
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Imran survived 5 balls before getting out on the 6th. So that defeats your logic right there.

If you let quality bowlers set up 6 balls in a row to a number 11 chances are he wont survive.

2 balls is different. The bowler doesn't really get a chance to set up a batsman as well. Better chance of him surviving.

Farming the strike with a tail ender is an art by itself.

Get a boundary early in the over and get a single to expose the tailender to only a ball or two.
 
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It's still game on, pak today target for this 30 odd over session should be that Nz overall lead is not 150 tonight and pak atleast get 3 wickets tonight to stay in the game, otherwise it will be game over for them, the max limit for pak is 300 in 4th inning on this pitch.
 
Is that Imran khan record still intact guys? The one ,where Pakistan were undefeated in any of the Test matches he has played
 
blackanhyellow said:
Imran survived 5 balls before getting out on the 6th. So that defeats your logic right there.

If you let quality bowlers set up 6 balls in a row to a number 11 chances are he wont survive.

2 balls is different. The bowler doesn't really get a chance to set up a batsman as well.

Farming the strike with a tail ender is an art by itself.

Get a boundary early in the over and get a single to expose the tailender to only a ball or two.
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You have to look at field sets too. In the previous over, in the first 3 balls the field was spread back so how was Babar supposed to hit a boundary?? He is a human after all even if he's batting in the 90s. He managed to get a boundary when the field came in but then the last delivery was a bouncer so it wasn't possible to get off strike. Babar isn't some machine who can get singles and boundaries at will. How was that a set up from southee? It was a nothing delivery, chest high on leg stump but this pathetic tailender somehow managed to glove it to the keeper.
 
Zeshan547 said:
It's still game on, pak today target for this 30 odd over session should be that Nz overall lead is not 150 tonight and pak atleast get 3 wickets tonight to stay in the game, otherwise it will be game over for them, the max limit for pak is 300 in 4th inning on this pitch.
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Anything over 200 will be extremely tough to chase considering the form of younis and the overall performance of the batting lineup in the last 2 test matches.
 
That's it for the day I guess

BTW I am seeing that the NZ curators are really keen on having the stumps taken away and the covers spread fully !! Hmmm...Wonder whether they would've been this keen had NZ been trailing in the series
 
New Zealand need to score 200 in their second innings to win the match No way is our terrible batting line up capable of chasing 250. I guess it's back to the likes of Umar Akmal if we want "new faces". Batting has to improve at grass roots and domestic level in Pakistan. Babar proved what can be achieved with a bit of application and a correct mind set.
 
Snatch said:
Yep, If numbers 10 & 11 had just both scored hundreds, Pakistan could have got a 150 run lead.

Clearly the tails fault.
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Whose asking them to score a hundred bud?

They should be able to hold a bat atleast and atleast helped Babar.

Forget the top order, they are useless as they come on this tour so far!
 
yes, imran is no 11 but these days even No 11s are expected to at least put their bat next to ball and dont act like a total goof. imran was totally embarrassing. he closed his eyes as if Michael holding was bowling bouncer to him. it was a totally useless ball and he could have easily let it go.

wahab is also so goofy and painful with bat.
 
fast1975 said:
yes, imran is no 11 but these days even No 11s are expected to at least put their bat next to ball and dont act like a total goof. imran was totally embarrassing. he closed his eyes as if Michael holding was bowling bouncer to him. it was a totally useless ball and he could have easily let it go.

wahab is also so goofy and painful with bat.
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Lol. Righto let's continue with that narrative about how disappointing numbers 9,10 & jack were.
 
aliasad1998 said:
You have to look at field sets too. In the previous over, in the first 3 balls the field was spread back so how was Babar supposed to hit a boundary?? He is a human after all even if he's batting in the 90s. He managed to get a boundary when the field came in but then the last delivery was a bouncer so it wasn't possible to get off strike. Babar isn't some machine who can get singles and boundaries at will. How was that a set up from southee? It was a nothing delivery, chest high on leg stump but this pathetic tailender somehow managed to glove it to the keeper.
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He bowled 2 bouncers on balls 3 and 4 followed by a fuller ball on 5. A number 11s biggest worry at this point is thinking is it going to be full or another bouncer? That is the setup. Its good enough for a number 11.

Besides the more balls you expose the number 11 to the greater chance of him getting out.

Here is an example of farming the strike done well look at the partnership between sarfraz and rahat ali:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakista...e/match/742613.html?innings=1;view=commentary

See how Sarfraz farmed the strike for the first 6 overs of his partnership with rahat.

Yes rahat is a better bat than Imran, but still it could have been done for atleast a few overs.

Lower order needs to show they can at least show some fight.
 
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