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New Zealand v Pakistan l 1st Test l Mount Maunganui l Dec 26 - Dec 30 2020 l Day 2 Discussion Thread

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All umpires calls will go in favour of NZ

We are never getting a decision from these guys!
 
Would like another fielder on the leg inside the circle vs Watling against pace here so that mid stump line has some more defence/attack option. He is also one of those batsmen who can play the middle stump ball easily towards leg.
 
Pakistan needs to attack now. Need to be proactive fgs. You have your opening.
 
Will repeat that Rizwan needs to have pace from both ends now. Yasir got the wicket but this is the crucial period in which a good pace bowling partnership can bundle NZ out cheaply.
 
Kiwis going for it now. Need pace on both ends now to gey these 2 out. Another 1 hour of these will push total beyond 350. Which will mean game over for Pak.
 
I actually love Faheem’s run up. It’s so much from the ghetto
 
Lower order aggression is on.

Pak need to stay calm esp the skipper, bring back Abbass , can still get them out for 350 or less.
 
Pakistan’s attack lacks an enforcer. Naseem is too young and inexperienced for that role currently. Someone who can bowl decent pace (around 140kph) regularly and with that hard length. Its not like it’s impossible to find anybody in the circuit for the job, they just need to plan and develop someone into that role. Letting the coaches of six regions know who can further guide the bowlers in their team who can potentially fill that role to start working on thier accordingly and give themselves a chance to fill that gap.

All the top bowling attacks have atleast one if not more.
 
Titan24 said:
Waqar might have issues with Shoaib during their playing days as well but, i highly doubt Waqar can go so low that at this age he would not handle a kid correctly due to his complexes.

With these young pacers we can doubt his effectiveness but definitely not his sincerity in my opinion.
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It doesn’t work like that. You have no control over these complexes - these are deeply buried psychological feelings of resentment grounded in his own playing experiences.

Imagine how bad Waqar must have felt being out of the 1992 world cup because of injury. Put yourself in his shoes. One of the greatest moments in Pakistan history, not just in cricket but generally one of our greatest moments as a nation. You were a guaranteed starter and you feel you should have been part of that, but now you’re the second sibling no one remembers while Wasim and Imran take laps around the ground trophy in hand.

You then have another back injury, and are half the bowler you used to be. You’re hammered in the 1996 world cup. You consistently live in the shadow of Wasim Akram. You’re sidelined for the 1999 world cup, where Pak makes the final again, and running on your ego, you become captain for the 2003 world cup where you’re hammered, all the while Shoaib Akhtar overtakes you rapidly as the premier right arm express bowler in the team. You retire a sad retirement, without the swan song you wanted, and resolve to cement your legacy through coaching, since you were never able to achieve that glory during your actual playing days.

You fail as coach but you give it a go, then another go, then another go, then another go, and finally a go as bowling coach, because you genuinely truly need to prove to yourself that you can achieve that glory, your actual skill as a coach be damned. As one of the former top players in the world, “I can’t” has never been an answer, and it (unfortunately) continues to be the case. This is why he is so strict with his players, described by Wasim Akram, Younis Khan, Shoaib Akhtar, and now Mohammad Amir as difficult to work with, and so on - Waqar has a genuine messiah complex and any player that pushes against his tight leash interferes with his vision.

I have a lot of respect for Waqar because he had one of the most phenomenal peaks of any bowler to have ever played the game. But it is clear he has a lot of complexes, in fact not too dissimilar to Misbah who I also did a psychological profiling of based off of the 2007 T20 WC final, a moment that psychologically changed Misbah forever.

If you dig deeper on Waqar, you scratch at a certain complex he seems to have about the damage that just one serious injury can do to your career. It appears he is unloading that now on Naseem, out of a genuine sympathy where he doesn’t want him to have his career end before it even begins.

It comes from a good natured place - however, Waqar refuses to accept that maybe, possibly, it’s feasible to tweak Naseem’s action into a safer loadup without reducing his potency and zip. That would require Waqar to accept that bowling coaches with lesser records than himself have a better understanding of bowling technicals than he does, and can achieve those results that he can’t - that’s something I don’t think he will ever be ready to accept. It simply goes against the most innate fundamentals of his identity.
 
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Thunderbolt14 said:
It doesn’t work like that. You have no control over these complexes - these are deeply buried psychological feelings of resentment grounded in his own playing experiences.

Imagine how bad Waqar must have felt being out of the 1992 world cup because of injury. Put yourself in his shoes. One of the greatest moments in Pakistan history, not just in cricket but generally one of our greatest moments as a nation. You were a guaranteed starter and you feel you should have been part of that, but now you’re the second sibling no one remembers while Wasim and Imran take laps around the ground trophy in hand.

You then have another back injury, and are half the bowler you used to be. You’re hammered in the 1996 world cup. You consistently live in the shadow of Wasim Akram. You’re sidelined for the 1999 world cup, where Pak makes the final again, and running on your ego, you become captain for the 2003 world cup where you’re hammered, all the while Shoaib Akhtar overtakes you rapidly as the premier right arm express bowler in the team. You retire a sad retirement, without the swan song you wanted, and resolve to cement your legacy through coaching, since you were never able to achieve that glory during your actual playing days.

You fail as coach but you give it a go, then another go, then another go, then another go, and finally a go as bowling coach, because you genuinely truly need to prove to yourself that you can achieve that glory, your actual skill as a coach be damned. As one of the former top players in the world, “I can’t” has never been an answer, and it (unfortunately) continues to be the case. This is why he is so strict with his players, described by Wasim Akram, Younis Khan, Shoaib Akhtar, and now Mohammad Amir as difficult to work with, and so on - Waqar has a genuine messiah complex and any player that pushes against his tight leash interferes with his vision.

I have a lot of respect for Waqar because he had one of the most phenomenal peaks of any bowler to have ever played the game. But it is clear he has a lot of complexes, in fact not too dissimilar to Misbah who I also did a psychological profiling of based off of the 2007 T20 WC final, a moment that psychologically changed Misbah forever.

If you dig deeper on Waqar, you scratch at a certain complex he seems to have about the damage that just one serious injury can do to your career. It appears he is unloading that now on Naseem, out of a genuine sympathy where he doesn’t want him to have his career end before it even begins.

It comes from a good natured place - however, Waqar refuses to accept that maybe, possibly, it’s feasible to tweak Naseem’s action into a safer loadup without reducing his potency and zip. That would require Waqar to accept that bowling coaches with lesser records than himself have a better understanding of bowling technicals than he does, and can achieve those results that he can’t - that’s something I don’t think he will ever be ready to accept. It simply goes against the most innate fundamentals of his identity.
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You actually wrote all that 😯.
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
It doesn’t work like that. You have no control over these complexes - these are deeply buried psychological feelings of resentment grounded in his own playing experiences.

Imagine how bad Waqar must have felt being out of the 1992 world cup because of injury. Put yourself in his shoes. One of the greatest moments in Pakistan history, not just in cricket but generally one of our greatest moments as a nation. You were a guaranteed starter and you feel you should have been part of that, but now you’re the second sibling no one remembers while Wasim and Imran take laps around the ground trophy in hand.

You then have another back injury, and are half the bowler you used to be. You’re hammered in the 1996 world cup. You consistently live in the shadow of Wasim Akram. You’re sidelined for the 1999 world cup, where Pak makes the final again, and running on your ego, you become captain for the 2003 world cup where you’re hammered, all the while Shoaib Akhtar overtakes you rapidly as the premier right arm express bowler in the team. You retire a sad retirement, without the swan song you wanted, and resolve to cement your legacy through coaching, since you were never able to achieve that glory during your actual playing days.

You fail as coach but you give it a go, then another go, then another go, then another go, and finally a go as bowling coach, because you genuinely truly need to prove to yourself that you can achieve that glory, your actual skill as a coach be damned. As one of the former top players in the world, “I can’t” has never been an answer, and it (unfortunately) continues to be the case. This is why he is so strict with his players, described by Wasim Akram, Younis Khan, Shoaib Akhtar, and now Mohammad Amir as difficult to work with, and so on - Waqar has a genuine messiah complex and any player that pushes against his tight leash interferes with his vision.

I have a lot of respect for Waqar because he had one of the most phenomenal peaks of any bowler to have ever played the game. But it is clear he has a lot of complexes, in fact not too dissimilar to Misbah who I also did a psychological profiling of based off of the 2007 T20 WC final, a moment that psychologically changed Misbah forever.

If you dig deeper on Waqar, you scratch at a certain complex he seems to have about the damage that just one serious injury can do to your career. It appears he is unloading that now on Naseem, out of a genuine sympathy where he doesn’t want him to have his career end before it even begins.

It comes from a good natured place - however, Waqar refuses to accept that maybe, possibly, it’s feasible to tweak Naseem’s action into a safer loadup without reducing his potency and zip. That would require Waqar to accept that bowling coaches with lesser records than himself have a better understanding of bowling technicals than he does, and can achieve those results that he can’t - that’s something I don’t think he will ever be ready to accept. It simply goes against the most innate fundamentals of his identity.
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POTW [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION]
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
It doesn’t work like that. You have no control over these complexes - these are deeply buried psychological feelings of resentment grounded in his own playing experiences.

Imagine how bad Waqar must have felt being out of the 1992 world cup because of injury. Put yourself in his shoes. One of the greatest moments in Pakistan history, not just in cricket but generally one of our greatest moments as a nation. You were a guaranteed starter and you feel you should have been part of that, but now you’re the second sibling no one remembers while Wasim and Imran take laps around the ground trophy in hand.

You then have another back injury, and are half the bowler you used to be. You’re hammered in the 1996 world cup. You consistently live in the shadow of Wasim Akram. You’re sidelined for the 1999 world cup, where Pak makes the final again, and running on your ego, you become captain for the 2003 world cup where you’re hammered, all the while Shoaib Akhtar overtakes you rapidly as the premier right arm express bowler in the team. You retire a sad retirement, without the swan song you wanted, and resolve to cement your legacy through coaching, since you were never able to achieve that glory during your actual playing days.

You fail as coach but you give it a go, then another go, then another go, then another go, and finally a go as bowling coach, because you genuinely truly need to prove to yourself that you can achieve that glory, your actual skill as a coach be damned. As one of the former top players in the world, “I can’t” has never been an answer, and it (unfortunately) continues to be the case. This is why he is so strict with his players, described by Wasim Akram, Younis Khan, Shoaib Akhtar, and now Mohammad Amir as difficult to work with, and so on - Waqar has a genuine messiah complex and any player that pushes against his tight leash interferes with his vision.

I have a lot of respect for Waqar because he had one of the most phenomenal peaks of any bowler to have ever played the game. But it is clear he has a lot of complexes, in fact not too dissimilar to Misbah who I also did a psychological profiling of based off of the 2007 T20 WC final, a moment that psychologically changed Misbah forever.

If you dig deeper on Waqar, you scratch at a certain complex he seems to have about the damage that just one serious injury can do to your career. It appears he is unloading that now on Naseem, out of a genuine sympathy where he doesn’t want him to have his career end before it even begins.

It comes from a good natured place - however, Waqar refuses to accept that maybe, possibly, it’s feasible to tweak Naseem’s action into a safer loadup without reducing his potency and zip. That would require Waqar to accept that bowling coaches with lesser records than himself have a better understanding of bowling technicals than he does, and can achieve those results that he can’t - that’s something I don’t think he will ever be ready to accept. It simply goes against the most innate fundamentals of his identity.
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Point of view nicely explained. I agree that something isn’t right when it comes to his man management, maybe it has something to do withe complexes he has in his sub conscious which he himself is either not aware of or not want to accept as you have put.
 
Deewana Mastana said:
They're never ready
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Titan24 said:
Point of view nicely explained. I agree that something isn’t right when it comes to his man management, maybe it has something to do withe complexes he has in his sub conscious which he himself is either not aware of or not want to accept as you have put.
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Waqar is not a good coach simple as that. I would rather try to hire, Mohammed Asif.
 
Both watling and Santner can score big, they need to keep it tight. Watling made 200 here, 450 still on cards here.
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
It doesn’t work like that. You have no control over these complexes - these are deeply buried psychological feelings of resentment grounded in his own playing experiences.

Imagine how bad Waqar must have felt being out of the 1992 world cup because of injury. Put yourself in his shoes. One of the greatest moments in Pakistan history, not just in cricket but generally one of our greatest moments as a nation. You were a guaranteed starter and you feel you should have been part of that, but now you’re the second sibling no one remembers while Wasim and Imran take laps around the ground trophy in hand.

You then have another back injury, and are half the bowler you used to be. You’re hammered in the 1996 world cup. You consistently live in the shadow of Wasim Akram. You’re sidelined for the 1999 world cup, where Pak makes the final again, and running on your ego, you become captain for the 2003 world cup where you’re hammered, all the while Shoaib Akhtar overtakes you rapidly as the premier right arm express bowler in the team. You retire a sad retirement, without the swan song you wanted, and resolve to cement your legacy through coaching, since you were never able to achieve that glory during your actual playing days.

You fail as coach but you give it a go, then another go, then another go, then another go, and finally a go as bowling coach, because you genuinely truly need to prove to yourself that you can achieve that glory, your actual skill as a coach be damned. As one of the former top players in the world, “I can’t” has never been an answer, and it (unfortunately) continues to be the case. This is why he is so strict with his players, described by Wasim Akram, Younis Khan, Shoaib Akhtar, and now Mohammad Amir as difficult to work with, and so on - Waqar has a genuine messiah complex and any player that pushes against his tight leash interferes with his vision.

I have a lot of respect for Waqar because he had one of the most phenomenal peaks of any bowler to have ever played the game. But it is clear he has a lot of complexes, in fact not too dissimilar to Misbah who I also did a psychological profiling of based off of the 2007 T20 WC final, a moment that psychologically changed Misbah forever.

If you dig deeper on Waqar, you scratch at a certain complex he seems to have about the damage that just one serious injury can do to your career. It appears he is unloading that now on Naseem, out of a genuine sympathy where he doesn’t want him to have his career end before it even begins.

It comes from a good natured place - however, Waqar refuses to accept that maybe, possibly, it’s feasible to tweak Naseem’s action into a safer loadup without reducing his potency and zip. That would require Waqar to accept that bowling coaches with lesser records than himself have a better understanding of bowling technicals than he does, and can achieve those results that he can’t - that’s something I don’t think he will ever be ready to accept. It simply goes against the most innate fundamentals of his identity.
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That's an interesting take on the issue. Thanks for writing that for us!

I always thought it had more to do with him not being that smart instead relying on his talent which ofcourse you can't transfer to someone.
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
It doesn’t work like that. You have no control over these complexes - these are deeply buried psychological feelings of resentment grounded in his own playing experiences.

Imagine how bad Waqar must have felt being out of the 1992 world cup because of injury. Put yourself in his shoes. One of the greatest moments in Pakistan history, not just in cricket but generally one of our greatest moments as a nation. You were a guaranteed starter and you feel you should have been part of that, but now you’re the second sibling no one remembers while Wasim and Imran take laps around the ground trophy in hand.

You then have another back injury, and are half the bowler you used to be. You’re hammered in the 1996 world cup. You consistently live in the shadow of Wasim Akram. You’re sidelined for the 1999 world cup, where Pak makes the final again, and running on your ego, you become captain for the 2003 world cup where you’re hammered, all the while Shoaib Akhtar overtakes you rapidly as the premier right arm express bowler in the team. You retire a sad retirement, without the swan song you wanted, and resolve to cement your legacy through coaching, since you were never able to achieve that glory during your actual playing days.

You fail as coach but you give it a go, then another go, then another go, then another go, and finally a go as bowling coach, because you genuinely truly need to prove to yourself that you can achieve that glory, your actual skill as a coach be damned. As one of the former top players in the world, “I can’t” has never been an answer, and it (unfortunately) continues to be the case. This is why he is so strict with his players, described by Wasim Akram, Younis Khan, Shoaib Akhtar, and now Mohammad Amir as difficult to work with, and so on - Waqar has a genuine messiah complex and any player that pushes against his tight leash interferes with his vision.

I have a lot of respect for Waqar because he had one of the most phenomenal peaks of any bowler to have ever played the game. But it is clear he has a lot of complexes, in fact not too dissimilar to Misbah who I also did a psychological profiling of based off of the 2007 T20 WC final, a moment that psychologically changed Misbah forever.

If you dig deeper on Waqar, you scratch at a certain complex he seems to have about the damage that just one serious injury can do to your career. It appears he is unloading that now on Naseem, out of a genuine sympathy where he doesn’t want him to have his career end before it even begins.

It comes from a good natured place - however, Waqar refuses to accept that maybe, possibly, it’s feasible to tweak Naseem’s action into a safer loadup without reducing his potency and zip. That would require Waqar to accept that bowling coaches with lesser records than himself have a better understanding of bowling technicals than he does, and can achieve those results that he can’t - that’s something I don’t think he will ever be ready to accept. It simply goes against the most innate fundamentals of his identity.
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:salute

btw, this reminds me that you were going to read Grapes of Wrath.
 
Its said on most sessions but this session will steer the test towards it's final result.

Kiwi lower order will try to smash 100 odd in the final session even if it means being all out. 400 is a good score for them. Pak will either bottle it after a few hits to the rope or take their chances which will come for sure.

Im backing Pak to end this in the next 60 odd runs, making it evens at the end of the first innings.
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
It doesn’t work like that. You have no control over these complexes - these are deeply buried psychological feelings of resentment grounded in his own playing experiences.

Imagine how bad Waqar must have felt being out of the 1992 world cup because of injury. Put yourself in his shoes. One of the greatest moments in Pakistan history, not just in cricket but generally one of our greatest moments as a nation. You were a guaranteed starter and you feel you should have been part of that, but now you’re the second sibling no one remembers while Wasim and Imran take laps around the ground trophy in hand.

You then have another back injury, and are half the bowler you used to be. You’re hammered in the 1996 world cup. You consistently live in the shadow of Wasim Akram. You’re sidelined for the 1999 world cup, where Pak makes the final again, and running on your ego, you become captain for the 2003 world cup where you’re hammered, all the while Shoaib Akhtar overtakes you rapidly as the premier right arm express bowler in the team. You retire a sad retirement, without the swan song you wanted, and resolve to cement your legacy through coaching, since you were never able to achieve that glory during your actual playing days.

You fail as coach but you give it a go, then another go, then another go, then another go, and finally a go as bowling coach, because you genuinely truly need to prove to yourself that you can achieve that glory, your actual skill as a coach be damned. As one of the former top players in the world, “I can’t” has never been an answer, and it (unfortunately) continues to be the case. This is why he is so strict with his players, described by Wasim Akram, Younis Khan, Shoaib Akhtar, and now Mohammad Amir as difficult to work with, and so on - Waqar has a genuine messiah complex and any player that pushes against his tight leash interferes with his vision.

I have a lot of respect for Waqar because he had one of the most phenomenal peaks of any bowler to have ever played the game. But it is clear he has a lot of complexes, in fact not too dissimilar to Misbah who I also did a psychological profiling of based off of the 2007 T20 WC final, a moment that psychologically changed Misbah forever.

If you dig deeper on Waqar, you scratch at a certain complex he seems to have about the damage that just one serious injury can do to your career. It appears he is unloading that now on Naseem, out of a genuine sympathy where he doesn’t want him to have his career end before it even begins.

It comes from a good natured place - however, Waqar refuses to accept that maybe, possibly, it’s feasible to tweak Naseem’s action into a safer loadup without reducing his potency and zip. That would require Waqar to accept that bowling coaches with lesser records than himself have a better understanding of bowling technicals than he does, and can achieve those results that he can’t - that’s something I don’t think he will ever be ready to accept. It simply goes against the most innate fundamentals of his identity.
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Spot on, glad you've expanded after my point on this.

Naseem has a much better, smoother action than Waqar did. But as I said, when you play for your country you dont think about your back next year , you think about winning and winning right now.

Btw how many times has Waqar been installed in some type of coaching role with then national side. He does a bit commie and then another stint as some type of coach. I believe once you get two chances and fail, you need to move on and find yourself another job.
 
They will bowl SSA into the ground. Just prepare dust bowls for the series against SAF and rest SSA.
 
31 overs out of 118 by Shaheen - that’s about 26% of overs with FOUR pacers. If I take out Yasir’s 24, that’s around 33%.... any reason [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]?
 
Well deserved wicket for Faheem and a poor shot from Santner
 
thunderbolt14 said:
it doesn’t work like that. You have no control over these complexes - these are deeply buried psychological feelings of resentment grounded in his own playing experiences.

Imagine how bad waqar must have felt being out of the 1992 world cup because of injury. Put yourself in his shoes. One of the greatest moments in pakistan history, not just in cricket but generally one of our greatest moments as a nation. You were a guaranteed starter and you feel you should have been part of that, but now you’re the second sibling no one remembers while wasim and imran take laps around the ground trophy in hand.

You then have another back injury, and are half the bowler you used to be. You’re hammered in the 1996 world cup. You consistently live in the shadow of wasim akram. You’re sidelined for the 1999 world cup, where pak makes the final again, and running on your ego, you become captain for the 2003 world cup where you’re hammered, all the while shoaib akhtar overtakes you rapidly as the premier right arm express bowler in the team. You retire a sad retirement, without the swan song you wanted, and resolve to cement your legacy through coaching, since you were never able to achieve that glory during your actual playing days.

You fail as coach but you give it a go, then another go, then another go, then another go, and finally a go as bowling coach, because you genuinely truly need to prove to yourself that you can achieve that glory, your actual skill as a coach be damned. As one of the former top players in the world, “i can’t” has never been an answer, and it (unfortunately) continues to be the case. This is why he is so strict with his players, described by wasim akram, younis khan, shoaib akhtar, and now mohammad amir as difficult to work with, and so on - waqar has a genuine messiah complex and any player that pushes against his tight leash interferes with his vision.

I have a lot of respect for waqar because he had one of the most phenomenal peaks of any bowler to have ever played the game. But it is clear he has a lot of complexes, in fact not too dissimilar to misbah who i also did a psychological profiling of based off of the 2007 t20 wc final, a moment that psychologically changed misbah forever.

If you dig deeper on waqar, you scratch at a certain complex he seems to have about the damage that just one serious injury can do to your career. It appears he is unloading that now on naseem, out of a genuine sympathy where he doesn’t want him to have his career end before it even begins.

It comes from a good natured place - however, waqar refuses to accept that maybe, possibly, it’s feasible to tweak naseem’s action into a safer loadup without reducing his potency and zip. That would require waqar to accept that bowling coaches with lesser records than himself have a better understanding of bowling technicals than he does, and can achieve those results that he can’t - that’s something i don’t think he will ever be ready to accept. It simply goes against the most innate fundamentals of his identity.
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potw
 
I think kiwis will go after bowling now. No point tiring pacers to block for hours. 350+ and Kiwis are in driving seat.
 
MMHS said:
I think kiwis will go after bowling now. No point tiring pacers to block for hours. 350+ and Kiwis are in driving seat.
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If Babar was here and we got NZ for 350 I'd say we have a chance to draw the game..but no hope without him.
 
Seriously I have no idea why YS bowles these Mamoth overs every test match. He doesn't take wickets and he doesn't contain
 
Three things are certain in life, death, taxes and Yasir getting smoked in a SENA test match.
 
Yasir getting hit for sixes is definitely not as shocking a thing as NZ commies are trying to make it out to be.
 
Yasir getting near his customary century...of runs conceded.
 
Naseem needs to stop playing test away from pak

Very very ordinary bowler who has already lost a yard of pace in his short career
 
Misbah/Waqar need to be sacked for serving up this poos bowling attack. This is unacceptable.
 
Need to bring back Abbas and tell him to get a wicket. He is the senior and the spearhead so should take responsibility.
 
Yasir maintaining his 100+ avg in NZ/Aus/Sa

One of the worst spinner around
 
350 in 9 hours. I hope Kiwis have an eye on weather predictions...
 
shah_1 said:
Yasir maintaining his 100+ avg in NZ/Aus/Sa

One of the worst spinner around
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Bhai he is senior. Seniority > stats. Who's going to be that sage-like presence among the non-senior bowlers during SENA tours? Yasir Shah, that's who.
 
It'd be the most Pakistan thing if they challenge whatever NZ first innings total will be. One minute down, next minute up amirite??
 
pakistan were always going to lose this , tbh I am not disappointed. This is a weak team and these tours should only be used to build a future team. Pakistan in the recent years have kept on chopping and changing players to get results , stop fearing the loss and keep an eye on future.

May be in 3 years time we will have a decent enough team to be in top 4 At the moment we cant ask this team for much.
 
May be this could be a blessing in disguise for Pakistan Cricket. Whether we lose 1-0 or 2-0. This might be the first step closer to get rid of Misbah and Waqar. I don’t mind Younis and his diary but ill take anyone over these 2 clowns.

Waqar have destroyed many careers and now he is doing it to naseem shah. First of all they should never have played for Pakistan until some experience under their belt. In the 90s we had bowlers who were begging to be picked as we had such a fantastic domestic structure for you to perform there first and then get selected or wait in the line.

Now 1 game and you give them Pakistani Cap in international cricket, is it a joke or what? Nowadays players are not earning their places they are given over 1 performances.

You have ammar yamin, waqas, rahat ali some decent bowlers try them as they have experience.
 
Naseem really needs to be taken out of international cricket for the moment. Guy looks like a club bowlee
 
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