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Is it fair to assume newbery bats are cut on a CNC machine these days?
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Yes, most of the batmaking work on Newbery bat is done by CNC. Final touching etc is done by hands.
Newbery's CNC is not as advanced as GM.
Newbery's CNC is not as advanced as GM.
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Hey CD, just to correct you there. Newbery does not make their own bats anymore. TK makes them, not sure though if TK finishes them or if they are finished at newbery. Maybe you know the answer to that and can enlighten us.
TK has been pressing the bats for sometime there; CD is correct in saying that CNC does the majority of the work. That's why the pressing and finishing of Newbery is so good.
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I know mate, TK make Newbery bats as for many other brands but since Tim Keeley is associated with Newbery so that's why Newbery/TK comes as one but I totally know what you're trying to say.
Anyways, yes from fitting handle to finishing all is does by Keeley brothers.
There is really no one at Newbery who makes bats or do finishing etc etc etc
Hope you get my point
As I said Newbery"s CNC is not as hightech as GM CNC so some of the work needs to be done by hand too!
I meant the hand finishing makes it look good. It is impossible for TK to work alone and press so many bats. He definitely has help. TK is used by many boutique manufacturers to press their bats as well.
I think Canners and 02thoeva might be able to shed more light on this.
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Tim Keeley does not do all work himself, Nick and another brother (can't name him) help Tim out.
Edit: Its Fred who's name I was not able to recall.
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Awesome info guys
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Here is a video where you see Tim Keeley etc;
http://www.putlocker.com/file/2C249BD865F5BE53#
From 14 minutes.
Worth watching!
Enjoy!
http://www.putlocker.com/file/2C249BD865F5BE53#
From 14 minutes.
Worth watching!
Enjoy!
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man, i couldnt get through one minute of that show. it kept freezing up on me and a bunch of spam pop ups as well. thanks for the CD. 
yeah, there are a lot of them . even lekka is getting bats from them as well.
yeah, there are a lot of them . even lekka is getting bats from them as well.
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Lekka has been getting bats from Tim Keeley for a while whereas he also get from Asia too!
There are loads of 'smaller' brands who have Tim Keeley made bats with there stickers, loads of brands as zeusky said get bats pressed by them.
I have heard Millichamp & Hall bats are pressed by Tim Keeley which is a big surprise really.
There are loads of 'smaller' brands who have Tim Keeley made bats with there stickers, loads of brands as zeusky said get bats pressed by them.
I have heard Millichamp & Hall bats are pressed by Tim Keeley which is a big surprise really.
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man, i couldnt get through one minute of that show. it kept freezing up on me and a bunch of spam pop ups as well. thanks for the CD.
yeah, there are a lot of them . even lekka is getting bats from them as well.
Ah man that sucks, try from PC not iPad
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Which Brands would you say cd get there pressing amd part mades from them?
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Here are some I am aware of, there must be more but these are the ones I know;
Redback - Pressed by Tim Keeley
Hell4Leather - Pressed by Tim Keeley
Millichamp & Hall - Pressed by Tim Keeley
FatBats - Pressed by Tim Keeley
Ayrtek - Made and Pressed by Tim Keeley
Black Cat - Made and Pressed by Tim Keeley
Bulldog - Made and Pressed by Tim Keeley
Instinct Cricket - Made and Pressed by Tim Keeley
Newbery - Made and Pressed by Tim Keeley
These are the ones I can think of at the moment..
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Robert Pack has his own workshop/pressing and also make bats for Puma.
Yes, Piri Piri, Nixon, SAF (I think) all are exception.
Oh yeah no one is willing to openly state who makes there bats etc.
200% sure mate, clefts are provided by BlackCat but bats etc are made by Tim Keeley/Newbery.
Not sure if I will be able to catch the snap but the second BlackCat I got has a factory fitted toe guard so if you closely see the toe guard you can see 'Newbery' written
Robert Pack has his own workshop/pressing and also make bats for Puma.
Yes, Piri Piri, Nixon, SAF (I think) all are exception.
Oh yeah no one is willing to openly state who makes there bats etc.
200% sure mate, clefts are provided by BlackCat but bats etc are made by Tim Keeley/Newbery.
Not sure if I will be able to catch the snap but the second BlackCat I got has a factory fitted toe guard so if you closely see the toe guard you can see 'Newbery' written
That's funny
By the way, last month someone told me Willowstix are being made in India by RNS.
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That's funny
By the way, last month someone told me Willowstix are being made in India by RNS.
I also heard that but a while ago so could be well true
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Just to add Tim makes some of our Black/Green Mamba bats. we supply the willow
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Wanted to say that but thought you might not like it so didn't say that
Where do you get your willows from? Directly from JS Wrights?
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why would i be afraid of admitting where our bats are made. He make some, around 1/3rd. I am proud that I get my bats made by Top bat makers. Rest are made in India and pakistan.Wanted to say that but thought you might not like it so didn't say that
Where do you get your willows from? Directly from JS Wrights?
The willow is from JS wright, Tim buys it for me and also from another supplier
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Yes, there are Tim and Nick in the workshop who run the CNC, splice and press the bats. Then 2/3 other guys finish the bats
Well put Asadbhai; I seriously fail to understand why people will not disclose where their bats are being made. That is kind of a forgery I feel-- specially for the smaller boutique brands. Yours is a smaller brand yet you do not have any problems disclosing where and how the bats are being made. Then there are these smaller companies who keep using the words 'master bat maker' yet will not disclose who those 'master bat makers' are or where exactly they are being made. Crictech was here a few weeks back stating the same; why would the consumers spend 600 bucks on bats whose makers and place of make are shrouded in a veil?
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Well I'm thinking of getting my own brand going. Just for the fun of it and am thinking about either keeley, laver or even maybe mr bat bat as my bat maker. Who knows maybe even keeber.
Yeah good idea --- you can use your own hammer edge' technology--mallet tested and proven
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Not a bad option, I would say Andrew Kember would be very expensive compared to like of Tim Keeley.
You seem to be interested in Salix lately, here is review of my Salix Rogue;
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=114757&highlight=Review
Yes, how is this one treating you? The finishing of Salix bats is so awesome. And their willow grading I have been told is meticulous to the power of extreme. Why was this an outlet item---looks so amazing. I was getting a very good deal on a Daemon Grade One some months back but just did not pull the trigger. Do you think Salix has a future in a small market like North America? I am sure some of us might be interested but the majority might cringe looking at the price tag.
Hammer--- Kember is great and expensive; you just might have few takers on this one though provided the price is right.
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It is a very very good bat, I rate Salix better than Newbery. Salix bats are brilliant! Finishing is amazing (If Screaming Cat's finishing is 10 out of 10 then Salix is 9.8 out of 10).
Salix is very very strict in grading and a small error or defect etc in a cleft means they can downgrade a bat, they just want to meet perfection.
The one I have is a bit traditional shape bat but it is mighty effective mate.
I think you missed a very good deal there, Salix bats usually don't have very good bargains but once they do you will see them quickly disappearing.
I have always believed that majority of the people in North America who play cricket are not willing to pay premium price, most are happy with Grade 2 or Grade 3 Pakistani or Indian brands, they are happy with that. This is mainly for club players like us there are some who play top level cricket and they are willing to fork out cash for a top of the line bat but those type of people are not frequently found around.
We people who are on forums have good bats and I blame this because of forums. That is because we spend lot of time on forum, manufacturers websites, have long off season etc so then we fall in trap and buy stuff. When I was not on forum I was very happy with low end Gray Nicolls products but once I found out more about Gray Nicolls products I didn't wanted to stick with that lower end stuff for some reason
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Well I'm interested in everybody, not just Salix. Trying to get things going with mars cricket, ayrtek ( also made by Kelley ) buffalo etc etc. I like to communicate and learn so I'm always talking to somebody somewhere on the planet.
Just sold one of the old Bedessee hero original bats to someone in the uk. Isn't that funny. That's bat has travelled a bit.
If I am going to do my own branded stuff, it's going to be top quality. Not lower grade stuff. I won't be interested in selling numbers, rather quality and let word of mouth be my advertising.
So I won't be scared to get it from keeley, Kimberly or laver as I know it will be top quality.
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Just sold one of the old Bedessee hero original bats to someone in the uk. Isn't that funny. That's bat has travelled a bit.
If I am going to do my own branded stuff, it's going to be top quality. Not lower grade stuff. I won't be interested in selling numbers, rather quality and let word of mouth be my advertising.
So I won't be scared to get it from keeley, Kimberly or laver as I know it will be top quality.
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True.
Regarding Hero from Bedessee, I have seen a lot of people happy with a particular shape and they just want to stick with it. However, after recent experiences I feel that as world is moving forwards bats shapes are moving forward too!
It is not certain that what I liked in 2009 and how well it played etc it will feel or play the same, I'm sure that will never happen if in between you use few other bats.
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