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The team shouldn't be called Asia XI really should it.
The team shouldn't be called Asia XI really should it.
The world 11 team that visited pakistan had players from how many test teams?
It was still called world 11.
‘We never said that Pakistan players can’t be there’
The Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) is set to celebrate the birth centenary of Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, the father of the nation, by hosting two T20 matches in March between the Asia XI and the World XI. Initial plans were for the Asia XI to have players from all the Asian countries including Pakistan. BCB president Nazmul Hassan informed that the BCB reached out to the PCB but were told that the PSL (Pakistan Super League) clashed with the dates of the T20 matches of Asia XI and World XI.
Indian media IANS today quoted BCCI Joint Secretary Jayesh George as saying that India were under the impression that no Pakistan players will be playing in the Asia XI. “What we are aware of is that there will be no Pakistan players in the Asia XI. That is what the message is, so, there is no question of both countries coming together or picking one over the other. Sourav Ganguly will decide the five players who will be a part of the Asia XI,” Jayesh told IANS.
The BCB president however confirmed that there was no such process going on not to involve Pakistan players. “I haven’t told them [BCCI] anything like that. It’s going to be Asia vs Rest of the World. The thing is that the players who are available will play,” he said during a press conference today.
“We never said that Pakistan players can’t be there. When we communicated with the boards, Pakistan were the only country which said that the time clashed with the PSL. They asked for the date to be shifted but we informed them that the date can’t be shifted since his [Bangabandhu] birthday is on the 17th of March and the time we have been allocated for the matches by the government is from 18th to 22 [March]. PCB did not respond as of yet but maybe because the dates clashed with PSL, Pakistan players maybe unavailable," he said.
https://www.thedailystar.net/sports...r-said-pakistan-players-cant-be-there-1845460
Plot twist![]()
Who did it not represent? Best players from England, New Zealand and India would have been included if they were not so afraid.
I have to laugh at the "best players" part. None of the "best players" was part of that squad. For goodness sake, that so-called "World XI" had Paul Collingwood, a guy who last played international cricket in 2011.
The world 11 team that visited pakistan had players from how many test teams?
It was still called world 11.
Read the post without your orange tinted glasses. The best players from all of those countries represent the world XI if they were not afraid for their lives. In the case of AB Devilliers, afraid to lose his IPL contract. This is not on PCB for not managing a World XI that the World XI, they would do the best they can for whatever ICC produces for them.
Read that again and tell me what does that tell you about your country?
And I'll keep my glasses on, thank you very much. Can't handle all the hate here without them. Hurts my eyes.![]()
Well you can't have every country represented in a World XI, but an Asian XI without Pakistan is hardly worthy of the name.
You have an issue with My country
The world 11 team that visited pakistan had players from how many test teams?
It was still called world 11.
Would be pathetic if these petty politics affect a non serious series of games.
No Pakistan player in Asia XI for Bangladesh T20s: PCB chief
Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) chief Ehsan Mani has clarified that Pakistan cricketers will not be able to feature in the Asia XI team that will take on World XI in two official T20 matches on March 18 and 21 next year, in Bangladesh, as the dates are clashing with the Pakistan Super League (PSL) schedule.
"The Asia XI match is during the PSL. We did explore with BCB the possibility of the match date being changed but BCB were not able to do this for understandable reasons," Mani told Sportstar on Thursday via text message.
"Unfortunately the media hypes as ever are a distortion of the facts," he added.
The matches are a part of the celebrations to commemorate the birth centenary of Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahaman, Bangladesh’s father of the nation.
According to some of the media reports, the BCCI will be releasing five players for the tournament.
However, on Thursday, BCCI chief Sourav Ganguly refused to comment on the issue.
India and Pakistan have not featured in a bilateral series for the last seven years and only compete in global events.
https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cric...ehsan-mani-sourav-ganguly/article30405587.ece
This was a case of the media causing an entire circus.
Pakistan players not available due to PSL but report made it sound as though they were being left out maliciously.
This was a case of the media causing an entire circus.
Pakistan players not available due to PSL but report made it sound as though they were being left out maliciously.
This is just a coverup. PCB didn’t want to play in a tournament commemorating a “traitor”. BCB didn’t want PCB in a tournament commemorating its founding father. BCCI wanted BCB to chose either it or PCB.
Finally, Bangla, smart as they are, schedule the tournament clashing with PSL. Works for every one! LOL
Einstein
Birth date is 17 march, BCB are hosting matches in the same week so it's genuinely clashing with PSL
Meanwhile, the PCB has said the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) is giving false and misleading impression about Pakistan players being ignored for the ICC-approved T20 games between the Asia XI and World XI in Dhaka on March 16 and 20, under the umbrella of BCB and the Asian Cricket Council (ACC).
The PCB said the matter was discussed at an ACC meeting where the PCB had informed the BCB that they were willing to allow its players as long as the dates were altered to avoid a clash with the HBL Pakistan Super League 2020.
“The T20Is between World XI and Asia XI were scheduled from 16-20 March, while the HBL PSL 2020 is likely to end on 22 March. Since dates of both the series couldn’t be changed, we offered our regrets to the BCB, both verbally and in writing, which they understood and accepted.
“It is unfortunate that the facts were twisted to mislead Pakistan cricket fans and followers,” the spokesman added.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1524606/p...ive-reasons-for-not-playing-tests-in-pakistan
Excellent, win win for everyone. Now the strength of Asia xi won't be diluted to accomodate Pakistani players. Only Babar would have made it on merit anyway.
To the contrary, the strength of Asia XI would've been diluted to accommodate the whims of BCCI and BCB.
To the contrary, the strength of Asia XI would've been diluted to accommodate the whims of BCCI and BCB.
Not really. Babar , the only guy who would've realistically made it into the team , has not much to offer than the likes of Kohli, Rohit, Mushfiq, Dhawan/Rahul (?) and heck even Liton das.
Two posts calling him a "great man". I don't have a problem with you guys openly doing that on time pass. Why cricket forum?
I am not going to argue whether anyone else besides Babar would've made it to the team. There are several Pakistani cricketers that can go on merit alone over the players mentioned in the previous post. I can count two very quickly, on top of Babar. There's a reason why Pakistan is a number 1 team, and there's a reason why you guys are downplaying Pakistani players (because it suits your national narrative). But the fact that just alone Babar would make it means strength of Asia XI would've been diluted to accommodate the whims of BCCI and BCB.
How? I don't think people would pay money to watch Imad Wasim darting his heart out or Sarfraz yawning behind the stumps.
How? I don't think people would pay money to watch Imad Wasim darting his heart out or Sarfraz yawning behind the stumps.
Look at the players you've picked. Mohammad Amir has far better T20 stats than Bhanuka. Fakhar has similar average to Tamim but Tamim has much worse strike rate. You added Mujib and Rashid Khan to the list. These guys have played a big fat zero (0, nill, nada) matches against top 8 cricket teams in T20Is. You can literally pick Imad Wasim (the worst option you decided to dish out) over either of them based on that fact alone.
Look at the players you've picked. Mohammad Amir has far better T20 stats than Bhanuka. Fakhar has similar average to Tamim but Tamim has much worse strike rate. You added Mujib and Rashid Khan to the list. These guys have played a big fat zero (0, nill, nada) matches against top 8 cricket teams in T20Is. You can literally pick Imad Wasim (the worst option you decided to dish out) over either of them based on that fact alone.
It's political in nature. Try calling Jinnah a great man on any Indian forums' non-off topic (heck, even off-topic) forum.He is the founder of a country,respect that.
Shadab can be picked as backup spinner for Mujeeb and Rashid. He won't get a place in the XI but can be used as a substitute fielder.
You are wasting your time. Anyone who believes KL Rahul is a sure pick in ANY XI deserves no response.Look at the players you've picked. Mohammad Amir has far better T20 stats than Bhanuka. Fakhar has similar average to Tamim but Tamim has much worse strike rate. You added Mujib and Rashid Khan to the list. These guys have played a big fat zero (0, nill, nada) matches against top 8 cricket teams in T20Is. You can literally pick Imad Wasim (the worst option you decided to dish out) over either of them based on that fact alone.
Bhanuka is a batting allrounder who played a key role in the recent 3-0 sweep in Pakistan. Don't know how he can be compared to Amir?
Or Fakhar would be there if it included Pakistan.Tamim's inclusion is more on him being from Bangladesh rather on merit or else Rahul/Dhawan would have been there.
And I'm not even going to argue about Rashid and Mujeeb over Imad.
Ok, fair point, I believe I was looking at the wrong line when it came to Bhanuka. But what about Shami? Amir has significantly superior T20I stats over Shami.
Or Fakhar would be there if it included Pakistan.
The choice of Imad was facetious, because he's played against top 8 teams and the other 2 guys have played a combined 3 games against the top 8 teams, and because the other poster had been condescending towards Imad. Not that I think Imad should make the team, but you are really stretching it if you think Mujib and Rashid should both make the team.
We're talking 3-4 guys (again, leaving out Babar) that could easily make the team.
This makes my point about you guys are minimizing Pakistani players and hyping up other players into the stratosphere.
Again I don't even want to argue if you think Imad is better than Rashid or Mujeeb in T20s. Just because Afghanistan doesn't play top teams , doens't make Imad a better bowler than them.
Yes. I too disagree with Shami being there. I think it'd likely and rightly be Mustafizur.
Again, not trying to downplay or minimise or hype up anyone.
One guy has never played against top 8 T20I teams. Other has played 3 out of his 45 matches against them. A guy who has done more or less the opposite is supposed to back their back up.
Shadab can be picked as backup spinner for Mujeeb and Rashid. He won't get a place in the XI but can be used as a substitute fielder.
Rashid & Mujeeb haven't played against top sides because their team doesn't get opportunities to play against top sides.
However, both of them have exceptional records against sides like WI and Bangladesh. Rashid also played t20 WC and in 3 out of 4 games,his figures were 2-17,2-26 & 1-27,he was poor only against SA so he has done well in the limited opportunities he got against big teams.
And not to forget ,both of them have also excelled in the two premier t20 leagues-IPL & BBL.
As for Shadab,he started off very well but has had a poor 2019. His lack of wicket taking ability cost Pakistan games this year. Even a certain Wanindu Hasaranga outbowled him in the series played in Pakistan.
Not on merit, I would rather have Kuldeep, much superior bowler. Shadab's batting is neither suited for t20 nor will be required.
Generally, these kind of teams (Asia/World X1) are picked on representation, hosting rights as well as competency. I won’t be surprised if there are 3-4 from BD, 2-3 each from from India, SL, Pak (if it were to play) and one each from AFG and possibly Nepal. This won’t beat any IPL team but will represent Asia well. Similarly World X1 may have players from Ireland.
Babar deserves to be in Asia XI. India should get an exception for him. No other Pak player will honestly get in even if the match was to be held in Karachi.
None of this makes it obvious that Shadab should be behind both of these guys, especially Mujib. You could make a better argument for Rashid (even that's stretching it by a lot, but it's not completely unreasonable), but I don't see how you make an argument for Mujib over Shadab given the latter has played almost all his games against the top teams. WI and BD are ranked below Afghanistan in T20Is btw.
That's fine, but are you changing your earlier statement? I have already talked about how several Pakistani players could easily play instead of Afghan and BD players.
So, your original list boils down to the fact that BD, Afghanistan are included so you have to pick some players from those teams instead of merit, but Pakistani players cannot be picked because of merit. Makes complete logical sense.
Look at the players you've picked. Mohammad Amir has far better T20 stats than Bhanuka. Fakhar has similar average to Tamim but Tamim has much worse strike rate. You added Mujib and Rashid Khan to the list. These guys have played a big fat zero (0, nill, nada) matches against top 8 cricket teams in T20Is. You can literally pick Imad Wasim (the worst option you decided to dish out) over either of them based on that fact alone.
Yep, will be fun. You better be here once it goes pear-shaped for you and your buddiesThe Asia cup next year is going to be a T20 version.
I guess, time for another rude awakening after how things transpired in the last edition. Can't wait. I bet it'll be even more brutal this time around.![]()
The Asia cup next year is going to be a T20 version.
I guess, time for another rude awakening after how things transpired in the last edition. Can't wait. I bet it'll be even more brutal this time around.![]()
Yep, will be fun. You better be here once it goes pear-shaped for you and your buddies![]()
Looking at your team I think it'll be an even contest.
Or June 2017Lol. Deja Vu.
It's 2018 August all over again.
Or June 2017![]()
Hey, atleast I was here to take the heat. 90% of the Indian crowd went into a hole after that painful defeatI didn't make OTT comments in June 2017 like a certain someone who ate a "not so humble pie" during the 2018 Asia cup.![]()
Hey, atleast I was here to take the heat. 90% of the Indian crowd went into a hole after that painful defeat![]()
Excellent, win win for everyone. Now the strength of Asia xi won't be diluted to accomodate Pakistani players. Only Babar would have made it on merit anyway.
Imad and Shadab are the best Asian T20 spinners. Rashid and Mujeeb boost their stats by playing minnows.
From your XI, Mohammad Shami is nowhere to be found in the rankings, Faheem Ashraf of all people is better ranked and has better stats
Although Fakhar has been wildly out of form, he still averages the same as Tamim in T20I cricket, with a SR 20 higher.
So much for diluting the XI![]()
Over hyping ki bhi ek had hoti hai bhai.![]()
Practice what you preach then
You can do better than that, cmonLearnt from our neighbours who had to go into a hole a whopping 12 painful times since 92.![]()
When did I overhype anyone ?
Imad and Shadab are the best Asian T20 spinners. Rashid and Mujeeb boost their stats by playing minnows.
From your XI, Mohammad Shami is nowhere to be found in the rankings, Faheem Ashraf of all people is better ranked and has better stats
Although Fakhar has been wildly out of form, he still averages the same as Tamim in T20I cricket, with a SR 20 higher.
So much for diluting the XI![]()
You gotta be kidding right? Please tell me you are kidding. Imad and Shadab aren't even decent for God sake. Padded their stats by bullying second string sides in UAE.
Are you seriously doubting Shami based on t20 ranking? T20 rankings are a joke, holds less credibility than my dog's morning poop. For example their are at least a dozen bats out there who are better than Babar Azam in this shortest format of the game.
I am sorry but the likes of Faheem and Fakhar aren't even cricketers in my book. We have higher standards.
A pseudo-cricketer scored a century against you in a world tournament final.
Shame
Scored a 50 against England too in the semis.Fluke happens. Even Anil Kumble gave a little phainti to Waqar Younis of all people and Agarkar had a century at Lords. Most recent example is Yasir's century against Starc and Cummins.
You gotta be kidding right? Please tell me you are kidding. Imad and Shadab aren't even decent for God sake. Padded their stats by bullying second string sides in UAE.
Are you seriously doubting Shami based on t20 ranking? T20 rankings are a joke, holds less credibility than my dog's morning poop. For example their are at least a dozen bats out there who are better than Babar Azam in this shortest format of the game.
I am sorry but the likes of Faheem and Fakhar aren't even cricketers in my book. We have higher standards.