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PerfectionPersonified said:
It would be interesting if USA do an operation against MOdi and kills him in India decalring him terrorist =(Which he is)===What would be my most of indians View Point?
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PerfectionPersonified said:
It would be interesting if USA do an operation against MOdi and kills him in India decalring him terrorist =(Which he is)===What would be my most of indians View Point?
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Forget the yanks, what if the Pak security forces went to India and killed Modi?
 
:)) I meant did he actually attack the USA, he may be guilty by association or by inciting the attacks, but he didn't actually attack the USA :yk
 
Poison said:
:)) I meant did he actually attack the USA, he may be guilty by association or by inciting the attacks, but he didn't actually attack the USA :yk
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Bush says "There's no need to discuss innocence or guilt. We know he's guilty"

What more do you need ;-)
 
1137moiz said:
Yes but what you and I think doesn't matter. International guidelines which America supposedly upholds are what matters. And the USA has violated just about every one of those guidelines.

It might be hard for you to take in, but the world isn't America's playground. Especially not the innocent lives on both sides that have been wrecked in this joke of a war.
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Seems like you are all over the place. I am specifically talking about this action to kill bin Laden. I have no problem with it. I already told you that in my opinion the Iraq war was a big mistake and many americans share that same view. It has nothing to do with the action of locating and taking out bin laden which is much welcomed by all americans. Long time coming.
 
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There was a guy being interviewed on the tv last night (BBC I think, or could have been ITV - ITN News - I was more interested in getting ready to watch the ManUtd/Schalke04 Champions League match and was not paying much attention), and this guy claimed that he used to be called to the house to do odd jobs, such as repair a leak, fix a toilet, etc., and he never saw anything suspicious, and he never saw OBL)
 
Lol this guy was just interviewed by Channel 9 in Australia -

'No Osama. No. No. No Osama. No no Osama.'
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:))) Direct quote from Pakistani Abbottabadi Pathan.

Also just saw a picture of the house, looked like a regular Pakistani house lol, at least from the outside.
 
Javelin said:
There was a guy being interviewed on the tv last night (BBC I think, or could have been ITV - ITN News - I was more interested in getting ready to watch the ManUtd/Schalke04 Champions League match and was not paying much attention), and this guy claimed that he used to be called to the house to do odd jobs, such as repair a leak, fix a toilet, etc., and he never saw anything suspicious, and he never saw OBL)
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Too bad he missed seeing OBL.
 
anand99 said:
Seems like you are all over the place. I am specifically talking about this action to kill bin Laden. I have no problem with it. I already told you that in my opinion the Iraq war was a big mistake and many americans share that same view. It has nothing to do with the action of locating and taking out bin laden which is much welcomed by all americans. Long time coming.
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On one hand Taliban and Al Qaida's terrorist used sucide bombing mission, killing innocent people, attacking girls' schools, minorities and the list goes on. But if the US uses force of any nature it is considered as an action against humanity. Those who are sheding tears on OBL's killing, why dont you guys condemn the actions of these terrorist. Simply blaming the US for every issue is not going to cut it.
 
PakPrince said:
Thing is that American forces took control of Baghdad, there were mass celebrations accross Iraq. And in symbolicism they even destroyed Saddam's statues

Same in Afghanistan. The local populace was very happy when the Taliban were thrown out.

So who am I or you to say these were unnecessary wars
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I'm not going to be posting on this thread anymore but this post struck me as too deluded to ignore.

It's true that the Americans brought momentary joy with the downfalls of both Saddam and the Taliban. Since then both Iraq and Afghanistan have plunged into chaos.

Iraq: Sectarian violence, regular unauthorized raids, unlawfulness in the remoter areas. Sure Saddam was a brutal dictator but he kept the Shia-Sunni conflict at something of a stalemate; also before 1990 (the Gulf War) he had something of a good welfare state going. It's funny that the Americans didn't see fit to take down Baghdad when Saddam was invading his neighbours but only when they decided to hunt a completely different guy OBL who was nowhere close to Saddam.

Afghanistan: The Taliban were backward and confused tribalistic notions with Islam/Jihad, yet since they've gone corruption has shot up, the poppy trade is making a nice profit and the local warlords have started their spasmodic conflicts.

I'm surprised anybody can be deluded enough to think that the invasions of both these countries, however flawed their previous rulers, was something good for the local populace. Maybe in the very very short run (ie a few weeks) and maybe in the very very long run (a generation from now when this all simmers down InshaAllah). That apart it's been one long disaster.
 
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saqlain said:
On one hand Taliban and Al Qaida's terrorist used sucide bombing mission, killing innocent people, attacking girls' schools, minorities and the list goes on. But if the US uses force of any nature it is considered as an action against humanity. Those who are sheding tears on OBL's killing, why dont you guys condemn the actions of these terrorist. Simply blaming the US for every issue is not going to cut it.
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Yep the thing is people DO condemn Al-Qaeda/Taliban when they launch these savage attacks. That in no way legislates the USA to adopt a similarly barbaric style of warfare.
 
1137moiz said:
Yep the thing is people DO condemn Al-Qaeda/Taliban when they launch these savage attacks. That in no way legislates the USA to adopt a similarly barbaric style of warfare.
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When was the last time religious parties, which are also in Pakistani politics, have unanimously condemn these attacks or called the attacks on Pakistani forces, innocent people and Afghan military as un-Islamic? Most of you are playing in the hands of these guys. They know how to manipulate emotions and pretend that they are fighting a holy war. We all know there is no holy war going on.
 
saqlain said:
When was the last time religious parties, which are also in Pakistani politics, have unanimously condemn these attacks or called the attacks on Pakistani forces, innocent people and Afghan military as un-Islamic? Most of you are playing in the hands of these guys. They know how to manipulate emotions and pretend that they are fighting a holy war. We all know there is no holy war going on.
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they make up 2% of the electorate..they are minority parties that make alot of noise..unlike the BJP which gets elected into government..you have already fallen into their hands numerous times..we on the otherhand realise they are all talk and nothing else..

90% of all parts of pakistani society condemn these atttacks and will continue to do so if you bother to listen..but selective hearing it seems is a common Indian trait!!
 
saqlain said:
When was the last time religious parties, which are also in Pakistani politics, have unanimously condemn these attacks or called the attacks on Pakistani forces, innocent people and Afghan military as un-Islamic? Most of you are playing in the hands of these guys. They know how to manipulate emotions and pretend that they are fighting a holy war. We all know there is no holy war going on.
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Dude, be quiet. There is no rulebook that says anyone must be unanimous about anything.

Why don't you talk about other events and the lack of unanimous condemnation from Christians and Jews for NATO bombing people in Libya.
 
F
urther doubts have emerged about the official US account of the raid in which Osama bin Laden was killed, with reports claiming US Navy Seals were fired on only at the very beginning of the operation and that four of the five people who died, including the al-Qaida leader, were not armed.

Unnamed US officials told the New York Times that the only shots fired from within the compound in Abbottabad where Bin Laden was sheltering came from his courier Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti, who was behind the door of a guesthouse adjacent to the main house. The US raiding party shot and killed Kuwaiti and a woman in the guesthouse and, on entering the main house, were not fired on again, they said... http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/05/osama-bin-laden-not-armed..
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Versus the original versions of:

* Osama Bin Laden was firing whilst hiding behind a woman
* There was a firefight between the Seals and the occupants, lasting almost 40 minutes

What next ?
 
Poison said:
Step 1 : Go into compound shoot million bullets

Step 2 : Claim it's Osama

Step 3 : Drop body into ocean

Step 4 : Provide no evidence of this

Don't you see a gap in evidence there? Osama could've been dead 5 years back, but nobody will ever know. I don't blame some people for not thinking he's dead, given that there is literally no evidence besides the word of Obama and a few Navy Seals. I think he's been dead for a while, this was just an ideal time for his body to pop up.
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How was this the ideal time? If Osama was dead before Obama came into power, surely it was in the republican's interest to announce it during their tenure and they might have retained power

Why does America need to provide evidence to anyone as long as they know they have got him and Al-Queda knows?

If Osama was already dead why couldnt they have pretended to kill him at a remote place in Afghanistan which would have been much easier than invading the center of Pakistan? If it was a staged operation, surely having it so near Pakitan's capital wont make any sense
 
PerfectionPersonified said:
It would be interesting if USA do an operation against MOdi and kills him in India decalring him terrorist =(Which he is)===What would be my most of indians View Point?
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seriously dude..I just dont understand this need for you guys to portray urself as the protectors of all muslims in the world, when your country is in the midst of an enormous crisis (understatement)...

Yes, Modi was an ******* for whatever he did and yes he will someday be convicted..Who the hell do you think you are to bring him into anything and everything. India is talking about Dawood and Hafiz because they were directly involved in the killing of Indian civillians.

Seriously get a life ....If u've got the balls, stand up to the Americans, as they have done more harm to your country and its image all over the world (am sure ur ISI did its bit) by violating ur sovereignity..
 
^ imagine if the allegedly incompetent ISI sends another 10 ajmal kasabs (indian version)....your 25 redars cant trace them...so before you say anything against pakistan ...do some work on your redars
 
Something even more curious:

Original reports suggested that the Seals, Obama, etc. were only 60% sure (and 40% doubt/uncertain) it was going to be OBL, until they actually saw Osama Bin Laden - by which time they had already killed one woman and three other men!
Unnamed US officials told the New York Times that the only shots fired from within the compound in Abbottabad where Bin Laden was sheltering came from his courier Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti, who was behind the door of a guesthouse adjacent to the main house. The US raiding party shot and killed Kuwaiti and a woman in the guesthouse and, on entering the main house, were not fired on again, they said... http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...aden-not-armed..
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What if after killing the woman and the three men, they discovered that it was not OBL after seeing 'him' ? (the 40% doubt or uncertainty)

And now OBL's 12 year daughter is apparently saying that OBL was already captured and in custody before apparently being 'executed'.

Yet more twists and turns to come on this one I suspect.
 
Easy there PP. The Mumbai Incident is nothing to be proud of regardless of who did it. I wouldn't want to associate myself, my country or my countrymen with it. Is the ISI did it then shame on the buggers. If Ajmal Kasab is Pakistani and guilty, shoot him, hang him, spill his guts for all I care ... for getting caught if nothing else!
 
ace4rmspace said:
Easy there PP. The Mumbai Incident is nothing to be proud of regardless of who did it. I wouldn't want to associate myself, my country or my countrymen with it. Is the ISI did it then shame on the buggers. If Ajmal Kasab is Pakistani and guilty, shoot him, hang him, spill his guts for all I care ... for getting caught if nothing else!
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Agree.

Someone who kills innocents, or kills in cold blood is a killer, is a killer, is a killer - no matter what cause he's doing it for or what badge he's wearing.
Taking out the life of another human being is not/should not be, the same as watching a video or playing a computer game.
Anyone who thinks otherwise cannot be totally human.
 
Javelin said:
Agree.

Someone who kills innocents, or kills in cold blood is a killer, is a killer, is a killer - no matter what cause he's doing it for or what badge he's wearing.
Taking out the life of another human being is not/should not be, the same as watching a video or playing a computer game.
Anyone who thinks otherwise cannot be totally human.
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Spot on. Why has that become such a difficult concept to grasp these days? Are video games and movies really making us lose our humanity?
 
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I agree -- I strongly condemn Ajmal Kasab's Activites and indeed if ISI was invloved , they should be ashamed of themselves , but my answer was in relation to" Why is the world condemning ISI for being incompetent and failure to find Bin Laden, ---and the statement INDIA issues in regards to capturing Dawood etc and do surgical strikes in pakistan ---are they kidding ?

Raw failed at 26/11 and CIA at 9 /11 , the only difference is Pakistan suffered on both occasions
 
ace4rmspace said:
Spot on. Why has that become such a difficult concept to grasp these days? Are video games and movies really making us lose our humanity?
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I have lost both my mother and father in the last 11 months, due to old age/ill health, and yet I grieve every day.
I cannot imagine the pain that anyone goes through when they lose a loved one, especially someone yet to experience a full life, who leaves this world due to the deliberate actions of a killer.
Killing in the name of a cause, any cause, has to be the most vile act imaginable.!!!
 
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Why are some people getting so defensive about Osama here? Seems like there are lots of supporters. Boggles me, I had thought otherwise.
 
ace4rmspace said:
Easy there PP. The Mumbai Incident is nothing to be proud of regardless of who did it. I wouldn't want to associate myself, my country or my countrymen with it. Is the ISI did it then shame on the buggers. If Ajmal Kasab is Pakistani and guilty, shoot him, hang him, spill his guts for all I care ... for getting caught if nothing else!
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Javelin said:
Agree.

Someone who kills innocents, or kills in cold blood is a killer, is a killer, is a killer - no matter what cause he's doing it for or what badge he's wearing.
Taking out the life of another human being is not/should not be, the same as watching a video or playing a computer game.
Anyone who thinks otherwise cannot be totally human.
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Fawad said:
Thank you for proving my point that the yanks are imperialistic sons of b*****s! :yk
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ace4rmspace said:
Spot on. Why has that become such a difficult concept to grasp these days? Are video games and movies really making us lose our humanity?
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Statsman said:
Why are people getting so defensive about Osama here? Seems like there are lots of supporters. Boggles me, I had thought otherwise.
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That may have been your point PP and if so, you should know I agree. But your comment sounded more like a taunt than a part of a rational argument, thats all.

I don't believe the ISI is incompetent enough to allow India to do surgical strikes for whatever reason. I don't believe ISI's incompetance was a factor in OBL's assassination either.

India and Pakistan have favourable elements deep within each others domain, it would be foolish to deny that. Any action from either side could potentially have a very severe reaction, seemingly from within.
 
Statsman said:
Why are some people getting so defensive about Osama here? Seems like there are lots of supporters. Boggles me, I had thought otherwise.
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*facepalm* Defence of basic human rights ffs. :waqar
 
Who's defending Osama? I don't see anyone defending his actions. People seem to confuse 'doubt over the events' = supporting Osama. This isn't holocaust denial where one act equates to another (anti semitism).
 
Javelin said:
I have lost both my mother and father in the last 11 months, due to old age/ill health, and yet I grieve every day.
I cannot imagine the pain that anyone goes through when they lose a loved one, especially someone yet to experience a full life, who leaves this world due to the deliberate actions of a killer.
Killing in the name of a cause, any cause, has to be the most vile act imaginable.!!!
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My heart felt condolences Javelin, may you and your loved ones find eternal peace, Inshallah. I too lost my father last year, too soon I would say but then again, it always is.

It's worrying how people can talk about war, killing and death so easily without much thought about the effect it may have on those that survive. Such an event in ones life evokes a sense of total disregard for it yet extreme compassion at the same time. It's hard to describe and I pray no one has to experience it to find out.

I wouldn't think twice about strapping a bomb around my waist and destroying what took my fathers life so no more lives are lost because of this vile evil monster but sadly, thats not the way to rid the world of Cancer.
 
Statsman said:
Why are some people getting so defensive about Osama here? Seems like there are lots of supporters. Boggles me, I had thought otherwise.
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I don't think anyone in their right frame of mind was or is supporting Osama. There may be people who sympathise with the way "Justice" was served in his matter, I being one of them, that is by no means to be taken as an acceptance of his actions or subscription to his ideology but as acknowledgment of the fact that he was a human being and had a right to be tried in a fair manner and punished accordingly. Some could argue that he was a brutal mass murderer and his sub human actions stripped him of his basic human rights but how does that make them any different from him?

Some people are now asking for proof that he actually was involved in 9/11 and all the other incidents attributed to him, thats the danger when due course of justice is not followed. Questions will remain unanswered, doubts will arise, conspiracies will form, believers will emerge and we all know what that leads to.

The way he was treated was wrong, if not for his sake, then for the sake of justice, humanity and the rest of us.
 
It's staggering to me that people are still on here defending him, and throwing conspiracy theories out there.

Who cares if the US sexed up how they got him, and it was more an actual assassination than a firefight.

The guy was a lunatic, a person who believed in his imaginary friends so completely that he attacked and killed others. People who kill less are called serial killers. He was something else.

I don't care how it was done, but I am happy this clown is dead.
 
Where are those defending him? Why can't I see them?

OK, for the record ... hands up who defend/like/admire/give a monkeys left cheek about Osama Bin Laden ???

Hmmm ... thought so.
 
pinger said:
It's staggering to me that people are still on here defending him, and throwing conspiracy theories out there.

Who cares if the US sexed up how they got him, and it was more an actual assassination than a firefight.

The guy was a lunatic, a person who believed in his imaginary friends so completely that he attacked and killed others. People who kill less are called serial killers. He was something else.

I don't care how it was done, but I am happy this clown is dead.
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And that is fine as that is your opinion :)

Nobody here loves Osama Bin Laden. Many posters including myself have doubts whether he is actually responsible for 9/11 and other atrocities and whether he dies years ago.

USA cannot preach democracy and than assasinate someone when they could have had a trial.

It comes down to whether you believe USA are a moral authority or not? Living in the UK, we are lead to believe this by the media, politicians and dare I say our education system. I even fall for this when watching a Rambo film. At the end of the day, when I think hard about it, USA is lead by moral less goons and I have no reason to believe the recent reports especially as they have a history of BS and hypocrisy.
 
Anybody listening to Nihal show BBC Asian Network? Have created another thread- I was on near the start, probably at around 1305-1310 time (Hassan, Birmingham)
 
pinger said:
It's staggering to me that people are still on here defending him, and throwing conspiracy theories out there.

Who cares if the US sexed up how they got him, and it was more an actual assassination than a firefight.

The guy was a lunatic, a person who believed in his imaginary friends so completely that he attacked and killed others. People who kill less are called serial killers. He was something else.

I don't care how it was done, but I am happy this clown is dead.
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And I will be happy if someone runs up on John Howard with a gun and empties the clip into his bald head. I hope Blair/Bush/Cheney/Modi all meet the same fate as OBL. :yk
 
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pinger said:
It's staggering to me that people are still on here defending him, and throwing conspiracy theories out there.

Who cares if the US sexed up how they got him, and it was more an actual assassination than a firefight.

The guy was a lunatic, a person who believed in his imaginary friends so completely that he attacked and killed others. People who kill less are called serial killers. He was something else.

I don't care how it was done, but I am happy this clown is dead.
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And who told you this Apart from CIA?

Dont get me wrong --I am against any terrorism or terrorist but the fact if the person is never trialled- and thrown in the sea and thats when when he was not even armed..millions of theories are just about to emerge in few days...

btw do you think CIA is a saint?

lies after lies ....so people have the right to believe in these theories
 
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Waq said:
And that is fine as that is your opinion :)

Nobody here loves Osama Bin Laden. Many posters including myself have doubts whether he is actually responsible for 9/11 and other atrocities and whether he dies years ago.
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Poison said:
More appropriately, did Osama attack the USA?
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Fawad said:
The US government said he did, so it must be true! :yk
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kkmix said:
USA attacked USA
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shaykh1985 said:
Bush says "There's no need to discuss innocence or guilt. We know he's guilty"

What more do you need ;-)
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Statsman said:
Why are some people getting so defensive about Osama here? Seems like there are lots of supporters. Boggles me, I had thought otherwise.
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If this is not defending, then what is it? And these are only a few posts from this half of a page.
 
Expanding on Fawad's point, Obama is the leader of the USA. It is a fact that innoncent people have died whilst he has been im charge. Is it justified for a young Pakistani boy to assasinate Obama, without asking for him to be tried for war crimes.

If you want world peace than we must follow one basic principle that all human life is equal. 9/11 was tragic and I wish it never happened but is it right that as a consquence between 100,000 to 1,000,000 million people have died? Surely this is also terrorism because you only kill people responsible for 9/11 and not innoncent people. Do he families of innoncent victims in Muslim countries have a voice? Can they now invade Washington.

What I am trying to convey to Pinger and like minded posters who share his thoughs are that is not only Americans who have suffered and angry or want revenge or justice. Likewise, if you want democracy than practice it too.
 
I meant by association rather than by hand ... Osama did not literally kill any Americans in 9/11. He may have incited, organised, masterminded .. but he did not kill anybody.
 
Statsman said:
If this is not defending, then what is it? And these are only a few posts from this half of a page.
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You A class prat - and that is what you are. If I doubt that Osama is responsible for 9/11 than that is doubting the truth not defending him as a perosn. He is no chacha of mine.

Learn to understand posts before passing judgement
 
Waq said:
You A class prat - and that is what you are. If I doubt that Osama is responsible for 9/11 than that is doubting the truth not defending him as a perosn. He is no chacha of mine.

Learn to understand posts before passing judgement
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Haha, spout your hatred somewhere else loser. Don't get so touchy about Osama.
 
Statsman said:
Haha, spout your hatred somewhere else loser. Don't get so touchy about Osama.
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Man up and stop being a woman (apologies if you really are one)

This is not hatred son - I am simply telling you that you are a prat for putting spin on my posts.
 
Hmm...some posters are going through an emotional turmoil here. I'll leave you guys here, must not get to your low levels. :)
 
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^ And then you wonder why name calling ensues. Come on lad, you must be smarter than that, surely.
 
Death is inevitable,nobody can escape it but only Allah knows if OBL is dead or not,how he died & where he died. I certainly don't believe America. Just a poem i came accross
[Hang Your Heads In Shame].
~Americans hang your heads in shame. ~Celebrating success in a one-sided game.
~Centuries ago David defeated his enemy ~Till today the world acknowledges his victory
~Presently,the David you are not
~Your democracy is on the rot!
~One vote for evry man
~ Kill a million persons for 1 terrorist, only you can
~Two impoverished countries destroyed ~Muslims the world over annoyed
~Thirty countries allied
~ Innocent children of them parents denied ~Ten years is what it took you
~To arrest an enemy so few
~Never proven guilty in court
~Your propaganda is of every sort
~But even if he's been killed
~Islamic spirit has not been sealed
~Martydom was his lifelong aspiration ~From the Ummah has he won the greatest admiration
~Victory is actually his ~Insha Allah, he will rest for ever in peace
-Abu Hudhaifa-
 
PerfectionPersonified said:
^ imagine if the allegedly incompetent ISI sends another 10 ajmal kasabs (indian version)....your 25 redars cant trace them...so before you say anything against pakistan ...do some work on your redars
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Dude, do you even read the post completely before even commenting..Where the hell was I even talking about ISI's incompetencies....Anyway I rest my case...our "REDARS" are useless...

To all the other Pakistani friends...TO be honest am not trying to score brownie points against Pakistan or ur famed intelligence agency, all I am trying to put across is why dont you look at the broader issue here...Your sovereignity has been violated and u are getting some pretty nasty PR...Look at the larger picture on how ur country came about to this situation. No point blaming Hindus, Zionists and whatever religions that u despise..The problem lies within..
 
Blitzkrieg27 said:
To all the other Pakistani friends...TO be honest am not trying to score brownie points against Pakistan or ur famed intelligence agency, all I am trying to put across is why dont you look at the broader issue here...Your sovereignity has been violated and u are getting some pretty nasty PR...Look at the larger picture on how ur country came about to this situation. No point blaming Hindus, Zionists and whatever religions that u despise..The problem lies within..
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I don't think any sensible Pakistani will completely disagree with you on that. Some may argue that there are other factors involved but the inadequacies at home just cannot be overlooked.
 
Blitzkrieg27 said:
Dude, do you even read the post completely before even commenting..Where the hell was I even talking about ISI's incompetencies....Anyway I rest my case...our "REDARS" are useless...

To all the other Pakistani friends...TO be honest am not trying to score brownie points against Pakistan or ur famed intelligence agency, all I am trying to put across is why dont you look at the broader issue here...Your sovereignity has been violated and u are getting some pretty nasty PR...Look at the larger picture on how ur country came about to this situation. No point blaming Hindus, Zionists and whatever religions that u despise..The problem lies within..
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oh look its another parosee trying to rub **** in our faces! listen knucklehead, they can say whatever they want..the facts do not corroborate any of their accounts...

you say our redars are useless..lol..they were pretty good after Mumbai..

you say we shouldnt blame other people for our problems, yes indeed we are to blame for many problems but where we are not we will blame others especially when we know what they are upto..

you say you are not here to gloat well mr your great intelligence agencies let three men a in a rubber dingy get into Mumbai and shoot up the place!

there is one ineniable fact that proves Pakistan knew at elast that some kind of operation was taking place and that is the very helicopters used in the operation itself! so please keep your bhugal main churi awkaat to your self.. God you people are so transparent, thank God for partition!!
 
Waq said:
Expanding on Fawad's point, Obama is the leader of the USA. It is a fact that innoncent people have died whilst he has been im charge. Is it justified for a young Pakistani boy to assasinate Obama, without asking for him to be tried for war crimes.

If you want world peace than we must follow one basic principle that all human life is equal. 9/11 was tragic and I wish it never happened but is it right that as a consquence between 100,000 to 1,000,000 million people have died? Surely this is also terrorism because you only kill people responsible for 9/11 and not innoncent people. Do he families of innoncent victims in Muslim countries have a voice? Can they now invade Washington.

What I am trying to convey to Pinger and like minded posters who share his thoughs are that is not only Americans who have suffered and angry or want revenge or justice. Likewise, if you want democracy than practice it too.
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for Indians, americans and others as long as those 100,000 or million are pakistanis or others they couldnt care less...they will always assume some blood is better than others..hell in India this is an institution for goodness sake!! (caste system)
 
the Great Khan said:
oh look its another parosee trying to rub **** in our faces! listen knucklehead, they can say whatever they want..the facts do not corroborate any of their accounts...

you say our redars are useless..lol..they were pretty good after Mumbai..

you say we shouldnt blame other people for our problems, yes indeed we are to blame for many problems but where we are not we will blame others especially when we know what they are upto..

you say you are not here to gloat well mr your great intelligence agencies let three men a in a rubber dingy get into Mumbai and shoot up the place!

there is one ineniable fact that proves Pakistan knew at elast that some kind of operation was taking place and that is the very helicopters used in the operation itself! so please keep your bhugal main churi awkaat to your self.. God you people are so transparent, thank God for partition!!
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lol...I thought PP was a gem..U sir are from a different level...For god sake read my post completely and then quote me...No point showing ur frustration on me...I am not here to gloat or rub it in...So u are ready to admit that three men came in a rubber dinghy to attack Mumbai? all this while I thought it was a Zionist and Hindu conspiracy..Thank you for clearing that up..So..we are gonna engage in petty upmanship rather than debating constructively..well then, if you wanna be an ostrich...Godspeed...
 
Statsman said:
Hmm...some posters are going through an emotional turmoil here. I'll leave you guys here, must not get to your low levels. :)
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You're advocating the killing of an untried suspect? You consider that Justice? You're actually advocating the denial of basic human rights? It doesn't matter if it's Hitler, Bin Laden or you. All should have a right to free trial.

The sensationalist media has got to everyone's head.

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Blitzkrieg27 said:
lol...I thought PP was a gem..U sir are from a different level...For god sake read my post completely and then quote me...No point showing ur frustration on me...I am not here to gloat or rub it in...So u are ready to admit that three men came in a rubber dinghy to attack Mumbai? all this while I thought it was a Zionist and Hindu conspiracy..Thank you for clearing that up..So..we are gonna engage in petty upmanship rather than debating constructively..well then, if you wanna be an ostrich...Godspeed...
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whatever mate..please dont let the door hit you on the way out..I read your post...typical atittude...we know what our problems are so please you know where the door is..and take the rest of your buddies with you!!

well it was a rubber dingy wasnt it? who sent em there i guess we'll never truly know..
 
the Great Khan said:
whatever mate..please dont let the door hit you on the way out..I read your post...typical atittude...we know what our problems are so please you know where the door is..and take the rest of your buddies with you!!

well it was a rubber dingy wasnt it? who sent em there i guess we'll never truly know..
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SO if you read my post, where was I talking anything about your radars being useless or whatever...never mind...Guess its just a waste of time....Yeah..thank you for showing me to the door mate...Good luck..:afridi
 
Statsman said:
Hmm...some posters are going through an emotional turmoil here. I'll leave you guys here, must not get to your low levels. :)
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Lol at you selectively quoting posts...

What evidence is there that Osama was directly involved in the events of 9/11?...

Is it ok to assassinate armed men?...

Does every man not deserve a fair trial?...

And as for the likes of Pinger who see no issue with the manner of murder...assassinating unarmed men goes against International law hence why its being discussed...the discussion is about the violation of legal principles...ends do not justify means...if he was shot in cold blood that is a crime...
 
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people still are stuck on whether Osama was behind 9/11 or not whereas the rest of the world has got rid of him and are looking forward.

no wonder our country doesnt progress when people have such lines of thinking
 
PakPrince said:
people still are stuck on whether Osama was behind 9/11 or not whereas the rest of the world has got rid of him and are looking forward.

no wonder our country doesnt progress when people have such lines of thinking
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This is why you're 19 and type like 10 a year old. Grow up brah.
 
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