leatherface58
Senior T20I Player
- Joined
- Jul 18, 2011
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Underrated-Sanga.
Most under-rated - Chanderpaul
Agree Chanderpaul is really underrated it was because he always remained in the shadows of Lara...
Yeah guys like him deserve even more respect in my book. Makes no fuss just goes out there and does the job, day in, day out.
Steve Smith?
He is still doing nice in county cricket i just don't know why WI don't select him anymore he is a solid bat and they really need him in both ODIs and Tests
in which category?
Most under-rated - Chanderpaul
Most over-rated - Mahela
Umar Akmal underrated. Which other 23 averages 40 SR of 85?
Taufeeq umar under rated
Why so many posts have no spaces between names of players? Difficult to read
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I agree
"And suprising to see that someone actually claimed SRT to be overrated. I personally think that average Indians rate SRT too much. SRT is god, god stops everything just to watch SRT bat etc. ......................Note: SRT played those matches. I think SRT is a true legend, but people go over the top on praising him thats why I find it so sickening
I agree
"And suprising to see that someone actually claimed SRT to be overrated. I personally think that average Indians rate SRT too much. SRT is god, god stops everything just to watch SRT bat etc. ......................Note: SRT played those matches. I think SRT is a true legend, but people go over the top on praising him thats why I find it so sickening
Junaid Khan has now entered the overrated list for me.
in ODIs or Tests?
I think in ODIs he is doing fine 35 wickets this year with an average less thn 24 and 5th highest wicket taker this year.
He was rested/dropped for 5 ODIs recently so missed some opportunities also
Rohit Sharma... What an overrated player! No one ever got this many chances in Indian batting lineup with such performances. The guy gets praised when he makes a 40! He thinks he has got a 'start' when he scores a 10!
Irfan Pathan has played about 120 ODIs with a batting average of 23 and bowling average of 29. And is out of team. And over Sharma ji, a pure batsman, is 98 ODIs and counting with an avg of 32 (helped by recent stint at opening).
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Both.
In ODIs, his average needs to be taken with a pinch of salt.
19 of his 35 games have been against WI, Ireland, Scotland and Zimbabwe.
He is yet to play in Australia, NZ, SL, England (bilateral series).
He is a fine bowler but not exactly the world class bowler many think he is.
For me, he lacks penetration as a fast bowler and doesn't produce enough magic spells and magic deliveries.
What we saw in India in the first ODI seems like a one off.
I don't feel comfortable in giving a player "world class" status unless he has played and proven himself in most conditions if not all.
People throw this term around very lightly these days.
Junaid is just good.
Just curious, how do you feel about M. Amir?Junaid Khan has now entered the overrated list for me.
Philander is underrated, Ashwin is a bit overrated
Just curious, how do you feel about M. Amir?
Tsotsobe is criminaly underrated
I am speaking about Limited Overs Cricket.
Under-Rated
1. Dhoni (Yes, Dhoni!). Everyone knows he is good, but nobody realizes just how good Dhoni is. People will realize just what he is for India and CSK only when he stops playing, or (I dread that day) he becomes old and loses his skills. He is the best limited overs batsman in the world and the only guy even close is Virat.
2. James Faulkner. It'll take a while, but he will be a star. He's a good bowler, good fielder and a great attitude, but what people don't realize is just how good a batsman he is. His failure rate is very low, he has an amazing strike rate and is very very good under pressure.
I am speaking about Limited Overs Cricket. I am not disrespecting Tests, but as far as strategy or rating of player is concerned there is not much ambiguity there, good batsmen score lots of runs and good bowlers take lots of wickets and the more of that they do, the better they are. Limited overs is much more complex to evaluate than that.
Under-Rated
1. Dhoni (Yes, Dhoni!). Everyone knows he is good, but nobody realizes just how good Dhoni is. People will realize just what he is for India and CSK only when he stops playing, or (I dread that day) he becomes old and loses his skills. He is the best limited overs batsman in the world and the only guy even close is Virat.
2. James Faulkner. It'll take a while, but he will be a star. He's a good bowler, good fielder and a great attitude, but what people don't realize is just how good a batsman he is. His failure rate is very low, he has an amazing strike rate and is very very good under pressure.
3. Johnson Charles. It's amazing what an unorthodox style can do when it comes to making people dislike players.
4. Mushfiqur Rahim, he's a terrific batsman and a good keeper, apart from his captaincy. Both him and Bangladesh in general are under-rated heavily.
5. Glenn Maxwell....it's so convenient to hate people who produce blistering knocks, because supposedly they are incapable of scoring slower, (which is basically what "build an innings" means.
Over Rated
1. Hashim Amla. This guy practically defines the term over-rated. Best example of how aesthetics are valued over effectiveness. He is a good player, but just looking at runs scored misses the point of winning games. Amla has been on the wane, and especially in this latest T-20 produced a couple of efforts that were basically taking the runs off his teammates bats when they should have been accelerating.
2. Morne Morkel- He's a terrible limited overs bowler with a huge propensity for leaking runs, I am not sure why he is rated as high as he is.
3. Malinga- Ditto. A few amazing games and some spectacular dismissals camouflage him getting hammered all over the place with regularity. He is the Afridi of bowling (and unlike Afridi he can't get into the team on the other skill).
4. Jayawardene- It's amazing how much reputation can be sustained with such flimsy and erratic performance.
5. Lahiru Thirimanne- I know no one thinks he's good, but few realize just how bad he is. I'd rather have a first ball duck than let Lahiru Thirimanne bat in any limited overs match....
Most members here are not religious. The notion that Amla is overrated because he's a Muslim with beard is not true. Yes there are few who overrate him because they think he's pious but majority look at his stats and his performance against Pakistan's team which is incredible. I think non-pakistani PP members love to to play the religion card and quickly paint everyone with a big brush.
Obviously it is to do with his batting but I can't help feeling that most people like him as a player just because he is Muslim.
In many ways he is the type muslim most of us aspire to be but due to human frailities can`t.
He is a great inspiration to many Muslims .
because not only is he Muslim but he is also is a Mullah with a beard,
I like him for being a good muslim,
He stays calm and relaxed no matter what the situation, if anyone seriously believe his religion has no bearing on this then they are clueless as to what Islam can do to an individual. .
most important above all he is a good practising muslim..
Because he is a practicing Muslim Mashallah and on top of his craft as well.![]()
For me, personally, yes Amla being a practicing muslim makes me like him more.
Under rated - Umar Akmal (selectors)
Over rated - Umar Akmal (fans)
His numbers are not incredible against Pakistan. Amla has not done incredible against Pakistan to be rated that high by Pakistani fans. He averages just over 50 in test and in mid 40s in ODIs. This is bit below even his career records. If it was like Sehwag/Sanga ,who bashed Pakistan badly, then it would be understandable but he doesn't have anywhere close to mind boggling stats against Pakistan.
Many PPers have admitted openly that they have a soft corner for Amla. Yaah, He is a top class player but he gets over-rated a bit at PP for obvious reasons. Non-Pakistani members have simply picked on this fact. There is a thread - 'why Amla is liked so much in PP'. I just scanned it again. Surprise, a large number of poster like him more due to religion. Here are several quotes from that thread where only 80 odd people replied. Out of 80 , around half were Pakistani fans and there are quite a few people who like him more due to religious factor. Not a negligible numbers here when you see it in context.
Only from one thread:
To be overrated you don't need whole Pakpassion to have soft corner due to religion. Just 5-10% members having it goes a long way because he has very good record to begin with. Even you are insisting that he has an incredible stats against Pakistan. You see![]()
George Bailey and Michael Bevan both seem underrated.
Never saw Bevan bat, was too young and didn't follow cricket then.
But, seen his record, and some highlights, and heard a lot of stories about him, and he seemed like a damn good batsman.