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Overrated and Underrated Players

Anfield said:
If anyone asks me I would say he is the best example of a person who wants to follow his believes and his dream of a very good athlete. However, if someone asks me how good of a player he is I won't let his beard cloud my opinion.
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That's you but there are quite a few people here who rate him more as a cricketer due to religion. They openly admit it in many threads. When people like some one then then there is a tendency to even rate pathetic players. It's clear from many support thread for random players. And in this case, you have a great world class batsman so it's not too difficult to over rate him. You need only a small percentage of people going over board in a forum and you get the case of some one getting overrated.

He is a great player and I like him a lot due to being a very good person. Not denying that fact but I wasn't making a wild guess here. Btw, comment about you overrating him was in jest ;)
 
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Buffet said:
That's you but there are quite a few people here who rate him more as a cricketer due to religion. They openly admit it in many threads. When people like some one then then there is a tendency to even rate pathetic players. It's clear from many support thread for random players. And in this case, you have a great world class batsman so it's not too difficult to over rate him. You need only a small percentage of people going over board in a forum and you get the case of some one getting overrated.

He is a great player and I like him a lot due to being a very good person. Not denying that fact but I wasn't making a wild guess here. Btw, comment about you overrating him was in jest ;)
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fair post.
 
List of underrated players for each team currently minimum 50 International matches:-

India - Yuvraj and Zaheer.
England - Prior, Broad, Bell and Morgan.
West Indies - Sammy, Chanderpaul, Rampaul and Samuels.
Bangladesh - Shakib
Australia - Siddle and Harris.
Sri Lanka - Matthews, Nuwan and Dilshan.
Pakistan - Younis, Gul and Misbah.
New Zealand - Taylor
South Africa - Smith and Morkel.
Zimbabwe - Currently don't have one but past certainly Heath Streak.
 
Energetic said:
List of underrated players for each team currently minimum 50 International matches:-

India - Yuvraj and Zaheer.
England - Prior, Broad, Bell and Morgan.
West Indies - Sammy, Chanderpaul, Rampaul and Samuels.
Bangladesh - Shakib
Australia - Siddle and Harris.
Sri Lanka - Matthews, Nuwan and Dilshan.
Pakistan - Younis, Gul and Misbah.
New Zealand - Taylor
South Africa - Smith and Morkel.
Zimbabwe - Currently don't have one but past certainly Heath Streak.
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Some of them like morkel are no way near under rated
 
Mamoon_ said:
Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion.
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yes than whats the purpose of criticizing some posters for liking amla and linking it to religion?

just leave it to them whatever they think of him because as you said Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion.
 
Strike Rate said:
yes than whats the purpose of criticizing some posters for liking amla and linking it to religion?

just leave it to them whatever they think of him because as you said Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion.
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People admire/criticize Anderson on their cricketing ability, not on religion which is mostly the case with Amla.

he is loved for more than just cricket.

I don't have a problem with anyone loving the way he plays the game, defending soley on religious grounds is something I disagree with.

Btw, the mods have banned religious discussions regarding Amla in case you don't know.
 
Mamoon_ said:
People admire/criticize Anderson on their cricketing ability, not on religion which is mostly the case with Amla.

he is loved for more than just cricket.

I don't have a problem with anyone loving the way he plays the game, defending soley on religious grounds is something I disagree with.
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I dont think they like Amla just because of his religion and his cricket achievements are enough to like him but whatever way they like him Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion.

Mamoon_ said:
Btw, the mods have banned religious discussions regarding Amla in case you don't know.
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thats good now at least in indian series some people will not be able to link his fan comments with religion
 
Strike Rate said:
I dont think they like Amla just because of his religion and his cricket achievements are enough to like him but whatever way they like him Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion.
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If the opinion is INFLUENCED by things other than cricket, than its not justified.

Yes he has fans because of cricket but because of cricket ONLY.
thats good now at least in indian series some people will not be able to link his fan comments with religion
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Yes :23:
 
Mamoon_ said:
If the opinion is INFLUENCED by things other than cricket, than its not justified.
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but than some people like some players because of aggressive attitude and i am not talking about on field aggressive attitude with bat or ball so how to justify that?
 
Strike Rate said:
but than some people like some players because of aggressive attitude and i am not talking about on field aggressive attitude with bat or ball so how to justify that?
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What sort of aggression and where have they seen it?

If you are speaking of sledging, then its clearly a part of cricket.

Some players like the aggressive persona of players like Steyn, I don't mind but I don't agree with insulting and using abusive languages.
 
Mamoon_ said:
What sort of aggression and where have they seen it?

If you are speaking of sledging, then its clearly a part of cricket.

Some players like the aggressive persona of players like Steyn, I don't mind but I don't agree with insulting and using abusive languages.
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sledging is fine and i am also not against showing aggression as bowler or batsman with performance but some player go OTT in reactions or showing aggression and than some fans try to justify it.
 
Underrated : Ryan Harris and Siddle
 
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Underrated: Angelo Mathews as a player proved many of us wrong many times recently.
 
Junaid really has to be the most overrated bowler in the world.

Just listen to Russell Arnold raving about him!
 
^ Of course he will rave about him because he turns into Wasim Akram against SL usually, although showed his true colors today. :gul
 
The conversation above has changed from G to R rating and might enter NC-17 soon.
 
Mamoon said:
Duminy is overrated and Hafeez is underrated.
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Duminy is overrated and Hafeez is the most overrated cricketer on planet.

He will never win you games singlehandedly, and hog a spot that isn't suitable for him and insist he can manage every bowler on the planet.
 
I feel he's an excellent LOIs allrounder who has made more contribution and won more matches in 4 years than Afridi has in 18 but doesn't get due respect.

Nobody is claiming that he's world class or anything.
 
Mamoon said:
I feel he's an excellent LOIs allrounder who has made more contribution and won more matches in 4 years than Afridi has in 18 but doesn't get due respect.

Nobody is claiming that he's world class or anything.
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Someone who insists on locking horns with opposition who is two grades better than him, despite knowing his mental frailties is not doing justice to the team.

It's like Cambridge United from League 2 of Skybet League locking horns with Manchester United of Premier League just because they both have United common in their team names.

The result is obvious. A bashing each time.

What would a sane person do? Realize that they are playing divisions above their league and try to go down the league to their ability or quit that particular league.

What does Hafeez do ?

Insist nothing wrong with me. I am good. It's just other people assuming I'm not good.
 
:))

Hafeez has attempted to punch above his weight numerous times and has been found wanting, but that doesn't cancel out all the good allround performances he has produced over the last few years.

Contrary to popular belief, we don't exactly have world class player waiting in the ranks whose path to the team is being blocked by Hafeez.
 
:))

Hafeez has attempted to punch above his weight numerous times and has been found wanting, but that doesn't cancel out all the good allround performances he has produced over the last few years.

Contrary to popular belief, we don't exactly have world class player waiting in the ranks whose path to the team is being blocked by Hafeez.
 
Overrated : Pollard, Gayle, Ajantha, Mendis, Afridi
Underrated: Irfan Pathan, Williamson, Kulesekara in his first 5 overs :steyn
 
Overrated: Upul Tharanga, Dhoni [Test batsman], Hafeez, Kusal Perera

Underated: Kaushal Silva, Moeen Ali, Kulasekera
 
Kiri said:
Overrated: Upul Tharanga, Dhoni [Test batsman], Hafeez, Kusal Perera

Underated: Kaushal Silva, Moeen Ali, Kulasekera
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lol who rates dhoni as a test batsman....and moen ali underrated :))...i think you missed the 20 page moen ali thread
 
Straight_Drive said:
lol who rates dhoni as a test batsman....and moen ali underrated :))...i think you missed the 20 page moen ali thread
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Let's go back to the 2nd Test of SL vs Eng 2014. On the end of day 4, Eng were 50-5 and Ali was just in. It looked like it was all a matter of when Eng would get bowled out on Day 5. The next day, Moeen went on to get 108 not out and took it to the penultimate ball of the day. The 2nd last ball of the DAY. He put England in a match saving situation before Anderson gave it up.

Also, Moeen's a very decent bowler. Someone who bowls line and length majority of the time will get wickets. He was rewarded against India.
 
Straight_Drive said:
lol who rates dhoni as a test batsman....and moen ali underrated :))...i think you missed the 20 page moen ali thread
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At my cricket club, there are a handful of Indians who think Dhoni is a good Test bat
 
Kiri said:
Let's go back to the 2nd Test of SL vs Eng 2014. On the end of day 4, Eng were 50-5 and Ali was just in. It looked like it was all a matter of when Eng would get bowled out on Day 5. The next day, Moeen went on to get 108 not out and took it to the penultimate ball of the day. The 2nd last ball of the DAY. He put England in a match saving situation before Anderson gave it up.

Also, Moeen's a very decent bowler. Someone who bowls line and length majority of the time will get wickets. He was rewarded against India.
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my question was who underrated moen...people on the forum are already hailing him as the next big thing...he should be in the overrated category
 
Straight_Drive said:
my question was who underrated moen...people on the forum are already hailing him as the next big thing...he should be in the overrated category
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Oh :))) I did not even see that thread. Only reason I thought he was underrated is because I haven't seen anyone rate him.
 
Kiri said:
Overrated: Upul Tharanga, Dhoni [Test batsman], Hafeez, Kusal Perera

Underated: Kaushal Silva, Moeen Ali, Kulasekera
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Tharanga had a blitzkrieg start, at the age of 21 he had 6 ODI centuries in first 30 innings plus centuries in England, New Zealand on green, bouncy pitches and plus the Tsunami "victim" title made it a fairy-tale story. His 286 his runs partnership in England in ODI with Jayasuriya chasing 324 in 37 Overs was the best highlight of his career. 8 years later, he still hasn't fixed his weaknesses. His head hangs down and this guy needs to stop EDGING THE BALLL BEHIND. I'M TIRED OF SEEING THIS FOOL EDGING THE BALL EVERY TIME TO GET OUT. Such a talented batsmen but never learns to improve.
 
Straight_Drive said:
:)) :))....now this is a first :))
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No Indian fast bowler had impressed me more than Irfan Pathan(To young to remember Venkatesh Prasad bowl). The man has talent, he has skills. He was on bad patch for substantial amount of period. He deserves another Odi and a Test series. These Vijay Aaron, Mohammad Shammis and BS bowlers. Only like Bhuvi ..........and my man PANKAJ SEXY SINGH.
 
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Mobashir said:
He is just overrated overall.
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Yes.

Shehzad is a better player with average of 38.

Kohli is overrated averaging 50 plus in ODI.

You make so much sense.

And before you say flat tracks, which other batsmen in flat tracks are rated 50 plus in ODI?
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Yes.

Shehzad is a better player with average of 38.

Kohli is overrated averaging 50 plus in ODI.

You make so much sense.

And before you say flat tracks, which other batsmen in flat tracks are rated 50 plus in ODI?
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This guys like a clone of Mamoon, where did Shehzad come from?
 
Overrated Players
Misbah , U akmal , Rohit sharma , Pujara , Duminy ,Bailey ,morkel, malinga , bell , ashwin ,afridi , younis ,du plesis , taylor , bravo

Underrated players

Hafeez , Buvneshwar , raina , shahzad , southee , rahane , Mathews , Broad , Faulkner , d kock , Yousif , Raza
 
Over rated: Inzimam, Saeed Ajmal, Junaid Khan, Umar Gul, Shahid Afridi, Ahmed Shehzad

Under rated: Salim Malik, Azhar Mahmood, Younis Khan, Raza Hassan, Umar Akmal
 
Saleem Malik and Ijaz Ahmed both are unsung heroes of Pakistan cricket.
 
Over rated:Azhar Ali,Umar Gul,M Irfan,Umar Akmal, Shahid Afridi,Ian Bell,Ravi Bopara,K Perera,R Taylor,Ahmed Shehzad,Rohit Sharma,S Dhawan

Under rated: B Taylor,D Bravo,B McCullum,Gary Ballance,Jos Buttler,Sarfaraz Ahmed,Matthews
 
Overrated = Any bowling attack against current Pakistan talented + experienced batting attack...
 
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