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Pace-bowling all-rounders in international cricket currently

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There is very few pace bowling allrounders in the world....
How you rate them in all three formats?

Ben Stokes
Chris Woakes
Mitchell Marsh
Colin de Grandhomme
Jason Holder
Faheem Ashraf
Hardik Pandya
 
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Actually none of them are world beaters. But if I were to choose two of them, I would pick Pandya and Stokes in my line up.
 
What happened to the likes of Ryan Mclaren and Morris?

Collin grandhomme is dibbly dobly but can hit the ball a mile (not sure about the spelling of his name)
 
What happened to the likes of Ryan Mclaren and Morris?

Collin grandhomme is dibbly dobly but can hit the ball a mile (not sure about the spelling of his name)

Chris Morris is like Starc, plays one game and is injured for rest of the year.

McLaren for some unknown reasons was treated unfairly by CSA
 
Rana Faheem Ashraf and Andre Russell are the best LOI pace bowling all rounders.
 
Ben Stokes honestly benefits from alot of hype. He is made up to be some legendary cricketer who wins matches with bat and ball. He failed spectacularly in the two biggest matches of his career so far (WT20 final, CT semi-final). Even in this ongoing series with India he has performance of:

50(103) // 4 - 0 - 27 - 0

5(8) // 5 - 0 - 29 - 0 (only English bowler who didn't pick a wicket)




Mashallah what a player. Khan, Botham and Dev level. :bow:
 
Jason holder in tests. He is averaging 30 and scores in pressure situations. His bowling is improving too.
 
Ben Stokes vs Jason Holder

Is it even a debate now.

Holder is much more consistent his performances have impact on the game unlike Stokes ahi gets his 100’s mainly in high scoring draws or losing cause, also a much classier human being.
 
Give Stokes Bangladesh in England an he'd score a 200, and Bangladesh would already be all out before he gets a chance to bowl.
 
Ben Stokes honestly benefits from alot of hype. He is made up to be some legendary cricketer who wins matches with bat and ball. He failed spectacularly in the two biggest matches of his career so far (WT20 final, CT semi-final). Even in this ongoing series with India he has performance of:

50(103) // 4 - 0 - 27 - 0

5(8) // 5 - 0 - 29 - 0 (only English bowler who didn't pick a wicket)




Mashallah what a player. Khan, Botham and Dev level. :bow:

Hit by Thakur guy in a series decider and Willey concedes just 5 runs in the next over to the same batsmen. He has some good batting performances in tests but his bowling has been pathetic across all formats and he has not done anything special with the bat either in shorter formats.
 
I would not class anyone as a genuine all rounder unless they are regularly taking 5fers with the ball and scoring 100s at at least first class level , and have potential to do at test level.

Otherwise you have bowlers who can hit big sixes, and batsmen who can turn their arm over to give strike bowlers a rest.
 
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