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Pakistan [342/8] beat Bangladesh [341/7] by two wickets in the ICC Champions Trophy warm-up

PennOne said:
You are all witnessing live a showcase of how far back Pakistani batting has regressed vs how far forward Bangladesh batting has progressed.
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Pakistani bowlers were not at full throttle during the start. But when they got serious we saw how Bangla batsmen couldn't lay bat on the ball. Chill.. this is just practice.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A fine innings by Shoaib Malik. Really is a key player if Pakistan is to do well in the Champions Trophy <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CT17?src=hash">#CT17</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BanvPak?src=hash">#BanvPak</a> <a href="https://t.co/M8SvLoDbwp">pic.twitter.com/M8SvLoDbwp</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/868495362226618371">May 27, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Imad Wasim making sure nobody misses Hafeez or Azhar.
 
Hasan123 said:
That there are bigger problems in our batting line up than Malik. In the 2 games we did win out of the 10 played, Malik played a big part in those wins.
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would one of those matches be the ones where australia crawled to a sub 250 score.
 
idrizzy said:
Re: 2nd paragraph. More goes into the 'take 3's or layups'. That style of play is basically what Houston Rockets did this year, and sometimes it's efficient, but other times it's not. If it is so good (as Cricket Analyst suggests) then they'd have beaten San Antonio. There goes more into basketball however, like how early you take your shots, assists, open looks etc. That's why GSW are the best team because they are efficient on a whole other level. About 75% (or more probably) of their field goals are assisted, which shows the tempo they play in and the intensity they have.

And if you disregard the mid-range jumper then you're disregarding one if the GOATs that is MJ. He did what he was undoubtedly amazing at and was a huge success at the Bulls. So in this regard, 3's or layups are out of the question.

The argument in cricket and basketball is not about shot selection - if it was everyone would only go for 6's and 3's respectively - but it's about efficiency. Do what you're good at and stick to it. That's why Azhar will never be successful in ODIs since he's good with his temperament but not his ability for strokeplay.

Of course your first paragraph I agree with, and again that relates back to efficiency. Players want to play the bad balls but not get bogged down by the good balls. In this day and age boundaries are more important, however singles are needed to force proceedings, regardless of the situation. About 30% of dot balls in an innings is normal, even 35. But boundaries is the difference between 270 and 330.
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The basket example was to explain why 3 point shooting is not only because of number (3 better than 2 - 33% higher, so 33% success in same number of 3 pointer is always better than 50% on 2 points). Rockets tried that because they have arguably the best dribbler of the game - they lost to Spurs, probably because Spurs has the best defender of the game : in 1 on 1 Harden will always lose to Leonard. MJ was fantastic with jumper, but he was best at "close to paint" jumpers, that's 6-7 metres & he got several fouls for his "fade away". These days forwards are more direct & they take shots at first attempt from 10metre range.
 
Scorecard shows players are getting a good score (40+) or falling for single digits. Not great at all.
 
I have never felt so down on Pakistan's prospects since I started watching cricket.
This team is a joke. I had high hopes from Inzi...
 
Syed1 said:
Imad Wasim with 5 off 10 with one boundary.

:salute
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Were you expecting him to hit 30 in 5 in a pointless freaking practice match? He is trying to settle and acclimatize to English conditions in preparation of the main matches. You guys don't have patience :facepalm:
 
captain crook said:
Were you expecting him to hit 30 in 5 in a pointless freaking practice match? He is trying to settle and acclimatize to English conditions in preparation of the main matches. You guys don't have patience :facepalm:
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How hard is it to take singles or Pakistani way of getting settled is to tuk 10-15 balls and then get out?
 
captain crook said:
Were you expecting him to hit 30 in 5 in a pointless freaking practice match? He is trying to settle and acclimatize to English conditions in preparation of the main matches. You guys don't have patience :facepalm:
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Rotating the strike shouldn't be beyond an international cricketer.
 
Syed1 said:
How hard is it to take singles or Pakistani way of getting settled is to tuk 10-15 balls and then get out?
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Well, there is no urgency as such. Why stretch when you can practice watching the ball and understanding the swing/seam on offer for the main matches?
 
Apparently will see today how shadab and faheem bat . If any hafeez or azhar have scored runs then it would not have been possible to see these guys batting
 
captain crook said:
Pakistani bowlers were not at full throttle during the start. But when they got serious we saw how Bangla batsmen couldn't lay bat on the ball. Chill.. this is just practice.
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Joke of the century! Pakistani Fan mentality, when they do good, yeah they were serious, when they do bad, there were not serious, just having fun, LOL
 
Hasan123 said:
Why could no one else lead us to victory if it was so easy? Where was the rest of the batting line up?
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my question is why was he missing in action when we were chasing more than 300 in every other match of that series.
why do we have probably the longest playing cricketer in the odi game in the world struggling to contribute when the going is tough.
you can indulge in navel gazing: but wont change the fact that we have less rubbish or more rubbish batsmen. I can take rubbish from a newcomer but having to take 'adequate' from someone playing the game for two decades, is not good enough.
 
imteaz said:
Joke of the century! Pakistani Fan mentality, when they do good, yeah they were serious, when they do bad, there were not serious, just having fun, LOL
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Some of the folks were reporting that the boundary was 40m long. My school ground was bigger than that :facepalm:
 
Meanwhile

South Africa is chasing the same score against the favourites, in a very cool manner.

England 330/6 (50.0 ov)
South Africa 160/2 (27.0 ov)
 
Build a partnership. Although a win looks unlikely, we can get close especially with these boundaries. Faim, Shadab and Hassan can slog so Malik should be there until the end with Imad first at least bringing the game closer towards the last 10 overs (100 in 10 isn't impossible for us). If we can get to 240/5 with 9 overs left (or anywhere there abouts) then this will end in a very exciting game.
 
imteaz said:
Joke of the century! Pakistani Fan mentality, when they do good, yeah they were serious, when they do bad, there were not serious, just having fun, LOL
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Why do you have to attack Pakistanis? Racism?
 
Looks like hafeez may open along side ahmed shahzad along with haris coming in at 4
Even both father and harris could come for azhar and imad/faheem
 
Hasan123 said:
Rotating the strike shouldn't be beyond an international cricketer.
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This is scary batting performance - Mustafiz is rested & Mash is operating with part-timers, haven't called Miraz yet, who was in initial playing XI. Inability of taking singles is not new, but today in this size of ground, against this attack, chasing 341, this is shocking batting actually.
 
There's nothing in English conditions that you need to acclimatise to as these are the flattest pitches in the world. You'll have no problems hitting through the line of the ball here.

No excuses for this performance especially with that short boundary.
 
Pete Rose said:
my question is why was he missing in action when we were chasing more than 300 in every other match of that series.
why do we have probably the longest playing cricketer in the odi game in the world struggling to contribute when the going is tough.
you can indulge in navel gazing: but wont change the fact that we have less rubbish or more rubbish batsmen. I can take rubbish from a newcomer but having to take 'adequate' from someone playing the game for two decades, is not good enough.
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take him out because he is not playing like Tendulkar even after 2 decades. But leave the rest of the 10 because they are young.

Its better to loose all the matches with a young team then to win a few with this man. right?

Many youngsters look up to him in the team only and not hafeez, for a reason!
 
this is a dead man walking squad: everyone from coach to the last guy on the bench is worried about life after this tournament.
 
We might have a good finish on our hands if both players stick together.
 
apparently the bangladeshi and all other team approach to practice is to score as many runs as possible, Pakistani team approach is to stay on the crease with as many classy tuk tuk shots as possible
 
super hitter said:
take him out because he is not playing like Tendulkar even after 2 decades. But leave the rest of the 10 because they are young.

Its better to loose all the matches with a young team then to win a few with this man. right?

Many youngsters look up to him in the team only and not hafeez, for a reason!
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if your leading batsmen are being bossed around by the strongest teams of the era, there is nothing the youngsters are going to learn from them.
The only difference between Hafeez and Malik and the rest of these young guys is that: after playing cricket for two decades Malik and Hafeez have figured how to play well against the bottom 4 teams in world cricket. Pretty sure that these young guys can do that as well, if they play for two decades.
 
In contemporary world, which is possibly the most scary pair? My hunch is the one that is batting now at Southampton : AB & De Kok. Next probably Warner & Smith.

Historically, it has to be Viv-Lloyd.
 
Pakistan should use all their batting . Fakhar and haris should play as the 8 and 9 down. Theres no sense in wasting a practice match.

I hope they are smart enough to let them comr in next
 
This team just cannot bat. All this talk of 'aggression' and 'playing natural game' will always be reduced to nonsense when you just don't have the personnel to play the game as its meant to be played. The likes of Azhar and Hafeez have no place in an LOI squad, yet they continuously find a place. Inzi has disappointed heavily.

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Bangladesh has used 7 bowlers so far including part timers. Surprised miraz wasn't used
 
IM NOT YOU said:
Pakistan should use all their batting . Fakhar and haris should play as the 8 and 9 down. Theres no sense in wasting a practice match.

I hope they are smart enough to let them comr in next
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but then we'll know that haris is carrying his injury,
 
Who cares about practice match. Players should spend some time on wicket and forget about the result.
 
SA chasing similar target and just look at the difference in their approach :facepalm:
 
Pete Rose said:
if your leading batsmen are being bossed around by the strongest teams of the era, there is nothing the youngsters are going to learn from them.
The only difference between Hafeez and Malik and the rest of these young guys is that: after playing cricket for two decades Malik and Hafeez have figured how to play well against the bottom 4 teams in world cricket. Pretty sure that these young guys can do that as well, if they play for two decades.
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Yup, the recent results show how good our 30 year old youngsters are :bm
 
IM NOT YOU said:
Pakistan should use all their batting . Fakhar and haris should play as the 8 and 9 down. Theres no sense in wasting a practice match.

I hope they are smart enough to let them comr in next
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Exactly. We need to realize this match is not for winning. This match is for practice. Haris and Fakhar should come in next and have some decent batting practice. Even facing 10-15 overs and scoring at 3 rpo should be good if they can adjust to English conditions.
 
Syed1 said:
Malik has also slowed down considerably
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He has done his job. played better than the other batsmen in the team. its never really about playing better than the opposition for Paksitani players.
 
Pakistan has become a minnow of will take an era to come out of it its like a championship team
 
One point all posters are missing is that Pakistan have not really looked in trouble even with Babar, Azhar failing and the best player of the team --> Haris not getting a knock yet.
 
Pete Rose said:
give them another years and they will also be bashing the bottom 4.
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Comparing them even with the likes of Salman Butt is an embarrassment

Malik during his initial days was the pioneer of his team where the seniors used to try to accumulate the innings.

But when time came for Malik to accumulate, people are begging him to become the slogger and leave the young ones for their mighty tuk tuks
 
No surprise

We are pretty done as a team and will float around 8-10 in rankings
 
super hitter said:
Comparing them even with the likes of Salman Butt is an embarrassment

Malik during his initial days was the pioneer of his team where the seniors used to try to accumulate the innings.

But when time came for Malik to accumulate, people are begging him to become the slogger and leave the young ones for their mighty tuk tuks
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please stop with these excuses. he has always been poor against the tougher teams young or old. his only saving grace is that he is the india specialist. And I think thats pretty much gone as well, as we will see.
 
captain crook said:
Exactly. We need to realize this match is not for winning. This match is for practice. Haris and Fakhar should come in next and have some decent batting practice. Even facing 10-15 overs and scoring at 3 rpo should be good if they can adjust to English conditions.
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As evidence of them having adjusted it would be nice to see them score some runs. Bangla players had no such trouble. But then, they are actually good.
 
captain crook said:
One point all posters are missing is that Pakistan have not really looked in trouble even with Babar, Azhar failing and the best player of the team --> Haris not getting a knock yet.
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haris is the best player in team? based on what? fumes?
 
Now is the time Pakistani batsmen start playing switch-hits and pretend as if they never cared. :yk
 
captain crook said:
One point all posters are missing is that Pakistan have not really looked in trouble even with Babar, Azhar failing and the best player of the team --> Haris not getting a knock yet.
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One point all posters are missing is that Bangladesh have not even played their best bowler the Fizz
 
Bangladesh not playing 3 front line blowers, Mustafiz, Rubel and Meraj, all 3 will be in main playing 11.
Also they didn't play batsman Sabbir Rahman. :/


Bangladesh taking this practice match lightly.. just having fun. who cares win or lose.
 
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