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Pakistan (355/4) defeat South Africa (352/5) by 6 wickets in a historic chase to book spot in the final of Tri-Nation ODI series against New Zealand

Rana said:
The credit of that goes to Salman when it mattered the most. He was hitting a boundary at the end of some overs where Rizwan would eat up 3-4 dots
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I don't think you understand odi cricket and how partnerships work. I think maybe just focus on t20 as you understand that format.

If either of those batsmen got out earlier it was game over for Pakistan. Both played brilliant
 
Usergame said:
I don't think you understand odi cricket and how partnerships work. I think maybe just focus on t20 as you understand that format.

If either of those batsmen got out earlier it was game over for Pakistan. Both played brilliant
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Alright then losergame. I’ll keep an eye out for you here too.
 
Usergame said:
I don't think you understand odi cricket and how partnerships work. I think maybe just focus on t20 as you understand that format.

If either of those batsmen got out earlier it was game over for Pakistan. Both played brilliant
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Understand? He wants Asif Ali and Azam Khan in that format, 2 guys who would struggle to get into a gully cricket 11.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
So no prize for guessing what teams will do after winning the toss.
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Teams would love to chase obviously. Like 2021 T20 WC. But batting first teams can win too if they put an extra effor since its ODIs. it is a longer format.
 
heddie19 said:
Teams would love to chase obviously. Like 2021 T20 WC. But batting first teams can win too if they put an extra effor since its ODIs. it is a longer format.
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I think two new balls have made chasing much easier in ODI format.

It used to be more difficult to chase in the past when there was one ball.
 
Rana said:
Fighting with who?

are these the kind of picks you have saved in your phone for happy time?
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This is what he does, when he has pics like this of Misbah. That one is a guilty pleasure exclusive which he can't share on here :ROFLMAO:
 
If Rizwan can play knocks like this every now and then, I don’t think anyone will have a problem with him. No one expects it every game, If it’s just a one-off and the next one comes three years later, people will criticize him, and his fans will have to deal with it.
 
emranabbas said:
If Rizwan can play knocks like this every now and then, I don’t think anyone will have a problem with him. No one expects it every game, If it’s just a one-off and the next one comes three years later, people will criticize him, and his fans will have to deal with it.
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The guy who deserves the applause for playing an innings Rizwan and Babar can never play is Salman Agha.

Rizwan will play these 80-90 sr innings every now and then.
 
Usergame said:
Farkhar got out at the wrong time. Game was won by Rizwan and Agha partnership.
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Fakhar got out after securing Pakistan’s best Powerplay score in 10 overs losergame

It was a cakewalk after that considering he brought down the required rate for the rest.

You guys (RizBar fans) still do not understand the value of players like Fakhar and Saim.
 
Rana said:
The guy who deserves the applause for playing an innings Rizwan and Babar can never play is Salman Agha.

Rizwan will play these 80-90 sr innings every now and then.
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Did you enjoy his sixES though
 
Rana said:
The guy who deserves the applause for playing an innings Rizwan and Babar can never play is Salman Agha.

Rizwan will play these 80-90 sr innings every now and then.
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I mean well done to Rizwan for playing his part but what I find strange after today's game, more people are giving him the credit for this run chase. Doesn't seem right to me when the difference maker was Agha, who scored more runs at a much faster tempo.
 
Rana said:
The guy who deserves the applause for playing an innings Rizwan and Babar can never play is Salman Agha.

Rizwan will play these 80-90 sr innings every now and then.
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Salman played a better innings than Rizwan, but that doesn’t mean Rizwan’s knock should be undermined. However, I don’t think it would have played out the same way if Babar had been at the other end instead of Agha. Agha kept things ticking from his end to build pressure on SA bowlers
 
topspin said:
I mean well done to Rizwan for playing his part but what I find strange after today's game, more people are giving him the credit for this run chase. Doesn't seem right to me when the difference maker was Agha, who scored more runs at a much faster tempo.
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Rizwan started playing for the team once he secured his 50.

Agha was on it throughout. There were plenty of overs Agha rescued early on after Rizwan just dead batting Shamsi and Maharaj.
 
Rana said:
Rizwan started playing for the team once he secured his 50.

Agha was on it throughout. There were plenty of overs Agha rescued early on after Rizwan just dead batting Shamsi and Maharaj.
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Bro call it what it is rather than peddling blind hate. He started with the right intent and hit his first ball for four. He was the early aggressor in the partnership and if he was playing for his 50, why would he take a risk and go for a 6 while in his 40's?

And btw it's Rizwan's team, he's obviously going to play for the team.
 
daytrader said:
Bro call it what it is rather than peddling blind hate. He started with the right intent and hit his first ball for four. He was the early aggressor in the partnership and if he was playing for his 50, why would he take a risk and go for a 6 while in his 40's?

And btw it's Rizwan's team, he's obviously going to play for the team.
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Why are you and all your mates desperate for me to appreciate Rizwan today? Well done, he batted well. I e never not said “well batted” when he bats well.

But for some reason it’s like you all want to water board me into saying something that you wish to hear from me.

Sorry, I will give credit to those who deserve it besides him too. I think Tayyab and Saud put their heart into the match in the field. I think Khushdil held his nerve very well with the ball for Pakistan. I think Babar set the tone for Pakistan today.
 
Rana said:
Why are you and all your mates desperate for me to appreciate Rizwan today? Well done, he batted well. I e never not said “well batted” when he bats well.

But for some reason it’s like you all want to water board me into saying something that you wish to hear from me.

Sorry, I will give credit to those who deserve it besides him too. I think Tayyab and Saud put their heart into the match in the field. I think Khushdil held his nerve very well with the ball for Pakistan. I think Babar set the tone for Pakistan today.
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No one needs your appreciation, just the truth. Don't make up false narratives... very simple
 
daytrader said:
No one needs your appreciation, just the truth. Don't make up false narratives... very simple
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What false narrative? Did Khushdil’s spell of insuring Pakistan were not chasing 400 not important today?

Was Tayyab’s efforts of saving runs on the boundary not important today?

Was Babar scoring 10 in the first over and looking to set the tone with momentum for his side not important today?

Was Saud continuing the momentum at the fall of a wicket not important today?

It was a top class team effort. What really pleased me was the fact that Pakistan for once in 2 decades had a score of 90 at the end of the first 10 overs! That’s something I have been screaming for here for years! It was you people who didn’t want this kind of approach in the powerplay! It’s you people who are satisfied with 40-0 instead of 66-1 in T20 powerplays!

This match is a reflection for you people. You may use Rizwan’s innings to tell me “see Rana we were right”. But deep introspection and the approach in the powerplay by Pakistan will tell you “actually, Rana was always right”.
 
Rana said:
What false narrative? Did Khushdil’s spell of insuring Pakistan were not chasing 400 not important today?

Was Tayyab’s efforts of saving runs on the boundary not important today?

Was Babar scoring 10 in the first over and looking to set the tone with momentum for his side not important today?

Was Saud continuing the momentum at the fall of a wicket not important today?

It was a top class team effort. What really pleased me was the fact that Pakistan for once in 2 decades had a score of 90 at the end of the first 10 overs! That’s something I have been screaming for here for years! It was you people who didn’t want this kind of approach in the powerplay! It’s you people who are satisfied with 40-0 instead of 66-1 in T20 powerplays!

This match is a reflection for you people. You may use Rizwan’s innings to tell me “see Rana we were right”. But deep introspection and the approach in the powerplay by Pakistan will tell you “actually, Rana was always right”.
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So true!
 
topspin said:
So true!
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I can understand his point about building false narratives, but isn’t that what these guys are always doing themselves?

“Babar and Rizwan mentored Saim”

“Pakistan can’t win if Babar and Rizwan can’t score”

“Babar and Rizwan have to play slow otherwise the team won’t even score 120 runs”

Now they want an accurate narrative right now.
 
daytrader said:
No one needs your appreciation, just the truth. Don't make up false narratives... very simple
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I can't believe you of all people have the audacity to say this when I've been asking you to practice exactly what you're preaching right now.

This works both ways, you have to be truthful about your favourites, not just on a sunny day, but also on a rainy day as well. I stress the importance of the latter because I can give a prime example of you refusing to acknowledge what was a terrible innings from Rizwan.

It wasn't long ago when you called his innings against India during last year's WT20 "an effective innings", which is nothing but a blatant lie.

Another prime example is you praising Misbah for his innings in Mohali during that 2011 WC SF. Again in what world is that a good innings?

Unfortunately, this sort of thing appears to be a far bigger problem in the Misbah/Babar/Rizwan camp. Another notable example of this is with Misbah's biggest fan on here, who refuses to give Amir any credit for the role he played in the 2017 CT final.

The moral of the story here is let's take a look at ourselves before we lecture others on what's right and what's wrong.
 
Rana said:
I can understand his point about building false narratives, but isn’t that what these guys are always doing themselves?

“Babar and Rizwan mentored Saim”

“Pakistan can’t win if Babar and Rizwan can’t score”

“Babar and Rizwan have to play slow otherwise the team won’t even score 120 runs”

Now they want an accurate narrative right now.
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Yes and that's exactly what I've highlighted above. When confronted with the hard truths about Misbah/Babar/Rizwan, he either rejects it or does a runner.
 
heddie19 said:
Aaj to ranay ko neend hi nai ani. Rizwana masterclass k bad :D :D :D

Can Travis head chase 350? @mominsaigol :D
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Against this bowling attack? He 200% can if Labu or smith support him like agha did.

This bowling attack is rubbish. The reason I'm appreciating it is due to rizwan and Agha coming in during a very tense situation and the fact that none of the replacements like KG or usman khan could have chased it down.

But Travis is >>>>>>> Rizwan and babar. Don't bring Travis into this. Any rizzu fan who argues rizwan > Travis is factually incorrect.
 
topspin said:
I mean well done to Rizwan for playing his part but what I find strange after today's game, more people are giving him the credit for this run chase. Doesn't seem right to me when the difference maker was Agha, who scored more runs at a much faster tempo.
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The main credit towards rizzu and Agha is that they managed to hold their nerve when wickets were collapsing and I don't believe KG or anyone else in the dugout could have held their nerve and won the game for pakistan.

However the bowling is rubbish, its the same bowling attack that turned kane williamson i to Chris Gayle.

Rana said:
I can understand his point about building false narratives, but isn’t that what these guys are always doing themselves?

“Babar and Rizwan mentored Saim”

“Pakistan can’t win if Babar and Rizwan can’t score”

“Babar and Rizwan have to play slow otherwise the team won’t even score 120 runs”

Now they want an accurate narrative right now.
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Rana said:
What false narrative? Did Khushdil’s spell of insuring Pakistan were not chasing 400 not important today?

Was Tayyab’s efforts of saving runs on the boundary not important today?

Was Babar scoring 10 in the first over and looking to set the tone with momentum for his side not important today?

Was Saud continuing the momentum at the fall of a wicket not important today?

It was a top class team effort. What really pleased me was the fact that Pakistan for once in 2 decades had a score of 90 at the end of the first 10 overs! That’s something I have been screaming for here for years! It was you people who didn’t want this kind of approach in the powerplay! It’s you people who are satisfied with 40-0 instead of 66-1 in T20 powerplays!

This match is a reflection for you people. You may use Rizwan’s innings to tell me “see Rana we were right”. But deep introspection and the approach in the powerplay by Pakistan will tell you “actually, Rana was always right”.
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No one's denying the team effort and the part everyone played.

What you do though is tell a few truths and then slyly add in comments like: "Rizwan started playing for the team once he secured his 50". This is the false narrative that you've been building up.

Don't take offense if I call you out on it. No need for ramblings either
 
topspin said:
Yes and that's exactly what I've highlighted above. When confronted with the hard truths about Misbah/Babar/Rizwan, he either rejects it or does a runner.
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Hard truths? Like the one Rana just built
 
topspin said:
I can't believe you of all people have the audacity to say this when I've been asking you to practice exactly what you're preaching right now.

This works both ways, you have to be truthful about your favourites, not just on a sunny day, but also on a rainy day as well. I stress the importance of the latter because I can give a prime example of you refusing to acknowledge what was a terrible innings from Rizwan.
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If you want to be truthful you have to look at the macro picture and history of Pakistan cricket rather than just blaming individuals you don't like. None of them are my favourites, it's just that I don't look for scapegoats like you do. Everything I say is backed with logic or numbers or questions that lead to the truth. And the audacity I show is when I put you on such spots, you have no answers so you guys resort to ramblings kind of like what Rana did earlier when I asked exposed a very specific point and now you with resorting to Misbah and Mohali.

topspin said:
It wasn't long ago when you called his innings against India during last year's WT20 "an effective innings", which is nothing but a blatant lie.
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As we're talking about the truth let me ask you a very simple question and be honest - Is 40 from 35 with 6 wickets in hand not achievable?

topspin said:
Another prime example is you praising Misbah for his innings in Mohali during that 2011 WC SF. Again in what world is that a good innings?
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Misbah has nothing to do with the thread but ofcourse for you he's the ultimate villain so everything must be tied back to that. We've discussed many times and if you really want to scapegoat someone check you hero YK's innings. Played worse than Misbah
 
It was all salman and rizwan show... Babar and fakhar setup the tone earlier but it was all careful and sensible batting from Salman and riz.

You gotta give them credit for that partnership. No other batter could have achieved that feat. Kamran, irfan, tayyab,,, no one could have taken the game that deep.


But bowling was rubbish... gotta rest hasnain next game.
 
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