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Pakistan A v England XI | Tour Match | 8th-9th Oct | Sharjah | Match drawn

England struggling with the bat espcially the 2nd half of the middle order, this will be a sign of things to come during the test series
 
Ian Bell and Taylor retired not out. Surprised to see bell scoring some runs. Guy is a sitting duck in non-english conditions esp Asian.
 
11ShadyBrothers said:
Big mistake to not play Finn. I would drop Jimmy.
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Lol, don't be ridiculous. Jimmy is their strike bowler. It's definitely between Finn & Wood. Looks like they will go for Wood due to 'variety', which will be good for us, as Finn can cause problems with his pace.
 
Ahson8 said:
Lol, don't be ridiculous. Jimmy is their strike bowler. It's definitely between Finn & Wood. Looks like they will go for Wood due to 'variety', which will be good for us, as Finn can cause problems with his pace.
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Jimmy or clouderson as famously known wont be able to buy much in conditions not suitable to him. Broad would be their strike bowler. I consider broad as the best english bowler currently anyway.
 
11ShadyBrothers said:
Jimmy or clouderson as famously known wont be able to buy much in conditions not suitable to him. Broad would be their strike bowler. I consider broad as the best english bowler currently anyway.
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He probably won't be as effective in these conditions, but his experience will still count.

He had a decent series vs us last time around and also did well in India, even though his overall record in Asia is poor.
 
Mo. Asghar is a very good prospect but clearly not ready for Test cricket yet.
 
2 more wickets for Mir.... come on man. He deserves this. Quality bowler. Much better then likes of Taj Wali and Adil.
 
Miro removes Moeen :14:
That's his fourth. Quality bowling mashaAllah. Callup to the team coming very soon now inshaAllah.
 
4 wickets on this!!!!!!

Come on Mir. 1 more.


But I think England will bat until 90 overs so doesn't matter how many wickets fall.
 
So Ali is out again? he seemed to come back into bat but has got out without adding any further runs.

Sure way of messing up your confidence LOL
 
LordJames said:
Would Clouderson be effective in UAE?
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Ahson8 said:
Lol, don't be ridiculous. Jimmy is their strike bowler. It's definitely between Finn & Wood. Looks like they will go for Wood due to 'variety', which will be good for us, as Finn can cause problems with his pace.
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Jimmy has proved that he can take wicket in unfavourable conditions, such as the Strauss tour of Australia and the last UAE tour. They will pick him because he has been there before.
 
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Robert said:
Jimmy has proved that he can take wicket in unfavourable conditions, such as the Strauss tour of Australia and the last UAE tour. They will pick him because he has been there before.
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He's fine in Australia, but his Asia record isn't that good, but even then he did alright in the UAE last time around an was quite good in India. Plus he's the most experienced, so he's obviously going to (and should) play.
 
Hope he can get this 5-fer. Means a lot!!!! I reckon he will be selected soon if he gets it.
 
Ahson8 said:
Here's a video of his bowling:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1lkre7_mir-hamza-outstanding-bowling_sport

He gets amazing swing in the domestic games, there were some worries about him not being able to swing the Kookaburra ball, but I think he has put those to rest today. I definitely think he will do well in helpful conditions. A must for our overseas tours next year.
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Where did you see him swinging the kookaburra? Is this match televised?

Because never in past he has moved the kookaburra an inch, when on television. Be it the Pentangular Cup or T20 cup, always got a beating with gun barrel straight trundling...
 
Anderson is a top bowler even in Asia. In early days he was poor but not now.

Check his bowling in India. Reverses as well.
 
Hawkeye said:
Where did you see him swinging the kookaburra? Is this match televised?

Because never in past he has moved the kookaburra an inch, when on television. Be it the Pentangular Cup or T20 cup, always got a beating with gun barrel straight trundling...
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Players improve.
 
Hawkeye said:
Where did you see him swinging the kookaburra? Is this match televised?

Because never in past he has moved the kookaburra an inch, when on television. Be it the Pentangular Cup or T20 cup, always got a beating with gun barrel straight trundling...
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36.3 Mir Hamza to Buttler, no run, away swinger, no shot offered


36.4 Mir Hamza to Buttler, no run, incoming ball, forward defense, beaten, appeal for catch behind, Not Out!
 
Zafar & Mir have been best two bowlers.

Adil has been rubbish in both games. Asghar has been terrible too.

LOL at those who thought Asghar > Zafar.
 
Bullet Drive said:
Zafar & Mir have been best two bowlers.

Adil has been rubbish in both games. Asghar has been terrible too.

LOL at those who thought Asghar > Zafar.
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Chill. Asghar is a good prospect, but he just isn't ready for tests yet. At this stage Zafar is definitely better.
 
James Taylor is quite underrated. I expect him & Root to do well this tour.
 
Ahson8 said:
Chill. Asghar is a good prospect, but he just isn't ready for tests yet. At this stage Zafar is definitely better.
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I know who is good and who isn't. Asghar is good. But he has been terrible in both games now and clearly isn't ready. He is 16 years old, and needs to mature a bit before playing.
 
ehsan adil is been the worse bowler with 6 eccomy in this game and 4 or 5 in last game and no wickets
 
Ahson8 said:
36.3 Mir Hamza to Buttler, no run, away swinger, no shot offered


36.4 Mir Hamza to Buttler, no run, incoming ball, forward defense, beaten, appeal for catch behind, Not Out!
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It's a good sign but has to see him bowl more to be convinced that he can now swing it.

Just in the recent T20 cup he wasn't getting any shape.
 
Hawkeye said:
It's a good sign but has to see him bowl more to be convinced that he can now swing it.

Just in the recent T20 cup he wasn't getting any shape.
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WRONG, he definitely was getting shape. The reason he was one of the top wicket takers. Please dont put your opinions as facts.
 
Bullet Drive said:
Clearly Shahzaib should have been sent ahead of Asghar.
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You often have no clue about what you're saying.

In one match a bowler takes more wickets and suddenly he's the best while other prospects are bad, who in fact are potentially better.

And using your same logic Shahzaib was poor on the entire SL tour, yet your logic doesn't apply here. :P

As ahson said, chill.
 
Hawkeye said:
It's a good sign but has to see him bowl more to be convinced that he can now swing it.

Just in the recent T20 cup he wasn't getting any shape.
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Don't think the conditions were conducive to swing in the recent T20 cup. He should be selected for the foreign tours, even if he just plays the side games (just to have a better look at him). I definitely think he will swing it in those conditions.
 
They've called stumps :|
Damn it, wanted Mir to get five. But nonetheless, a good outing for him. Will probably be selected for senior team soon now.
 
Hawkeye said:
You often have no clue about what you're saying.

In one match a bowler takes more wickets and suddenly he's the best while other prospects are bad, who in fact are potentially better.

And using your same logic Shahzaib was poor on the entire SL tour, yet your logic doesn't apply here. :P

As ahson said, chill.
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Zafar and Shahzaib both were poor on the entire SRL tour and you know why because both played only 1 FC match

You cannot judge a player by 1 match. If Shane Warne was a Pakistani he would have been discarded because he went wicketless in his first two matches.
 
Ahson8 said:
Don't think the conditions were conducive to swing in the recent T20 cup. He should be selected for the foreign tours, even if he just plays the side games (just to have a better look at him). I definitely think he will swing it in those conditions.
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Yeah, he should be kept under the radar.

Cricket lover 27 said:
Zafar and Shahzaib both were poor on the entire SRL tour and you know why because both played only 1 FC match

You cannot judge a player by 1 match. If Shane Warne was a Pakistani he would have been discarded because he went wicketless in his first two matches.
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You're correct. And I wasn't saying that Shahzaib is poor. He can be a good leg spinner, getting spanked in a few matches don't mean much, same for batsmen.

It was [MENTION=56866]Bullet Drive[/MENTION] calling Asghar as rubbish just because he failed in one match - I told him to apply his own logic to Shahzaib too, for consistency in his views.
 
Well done Miro. You have a bright future ahead, just do more hard work and increase your hunger. Sooner he will be the part of our national team
 
Hawkeye said:
Yeah, he should be kept under the radar.



You're correct. And I wasn't saying that Shahzaib is poor. He can be a good leg spinner, getting spanked in a few matches don't mean much, same for batsmen.

It was [MENTION=56866]Bullet Drive[/MENTION] calling Asghar as rubbish just because he failed in one match - I told him to apply his own logic to Shahzaib too, for consistency in his views.
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Stop lying. Why you always lying? :)))

I said Asghar has been 'terrible'. Which is true.

Go away and stop lying.
 
If the selectors don't want to select Sadaf Hussain then Mir Hamza has some nice stats. Hope to see him soon in the national team for Tests and ODI's.
 
ExplicitAI said:
If the selectors don't want to select Sadaf Hussain then Mir Hamza has some nice stats. Hope to see him soon in the national team for Tests and ODI's.
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He is definitelty in the selectors' radar. Thats why he was selected for these 2 warm ups.
 
Ahson8 said:
Guess they'll go with something like:

Moeen Ali
Alastair Cook (c)
Ian Bell
James Taylor
Joe Root
Ben Stokes
Bairstow / Buttler (wk)
Adil Rashid
Stuart Broad
Finn / Wood
James Anderson
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Bairstow and Wood will come in; on Paper you'd think Patel would make the cut ahead of Stokes but the selectors are probably aware that Pak would struggle against pace more then the batting A/R's spin (mind you he is a leftie and pak have had issues with left arm spin in the past) but Stokes will play. Butler is just out form.
 
shaz619 said:
Bairstow and Wood will come in; on Paper you'd think Patel would make the cut ahead of Stokes but the selectors are probably aware that Pak would struggle against pace more then the batting A/R's spin (mind you he is a leftie and pak have had issues with left arm spin in the past) but Stokes will play. Butler is just out form.
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Butler got some runs and Bairstow got a golden duck IIRC.

Stokes will play as he is so explosive and can change a match in a session with bat or ball. Look at his sixfer against Australia, swinging the old ball both ways.
 
JibranAnsari said:
He swings with the old ball , its the new ball which is the issue.
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correction....i've seen him reverse swing with the old ball but that was many moons ago..ive not seen him swing either with the old or new ball for about 2 years now..hence the question.
 
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