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DeadlyVenom said:
Reports of attacks in Jalandhar.

Attacks on Indian occupied Punjab make me sad. My family has a lot of history there and its a shame this beautiful land is being held responsible for the acts of the Gujaratis and other extremists in charge of India.
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You will be surprised to know that the attacks on Pakistan have a near 100% approval in India.

It doesn't matter who you talk to, this is not just some Gujjus controlling the narrative.

People supporting a Pakistani incursion into Indian territory don't realize that the entire country will demand even more from the Indian Defense Forces, if it happens.

Nobody is in the mood to back down.

No major economy in the world has blamed India for the attacks either. All this is bad news for Pakistan.
 
Bhangrey in Amritsar and Jalandhar?

I swear Sikhs are supposed to be our boys? Why is Pakistan attacking them?
 
Bhaijaan said:
This is some of you acting naive in the face of war.

Pehelgam was a terrorist incident. They picked people. Segregated them on the basis of religion and specifically killed Hindus.

What’s happening now is two countries at war hitting strategic targets. It’s not the same. You’re also killing kids in Poonch as we speak. We’re not crying about it in the middle of a war. Time for all this condemnation and stuff is over. We are at war and you will keep seeing this from both sides now.
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Yea, evidence?
 
I am worried about my external hard drive kept in my Punjab home.
 
sweep_shot said:
Yes. Noticed it.

An entire generation got messed up in the heads due to BJP/RSS brainwashings. It is sad because it may get their country in big troubles like it is happening today.
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You have no idea about Indian politics. Modi doesn't even have a full majority in the parliament -- India is too vast to be swept under the spell of a single individual.
 

bunda_bindaas said:
You will be surprised to know that the attacks on Pakistan have a near 100% approval in India.

It doesn't matter who you talk to, this is not just some Gujjus controlling the narrative.

People supporting a Pakistani incursion into Indian territory don't realize that the entire country will demand even more from the Indian Defense Forces, if it happens.

Nobody is in the mood to back down.

No major economy in the world has blamed India for the attacks either. All this is bad news for Pakistan.
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Regardless of Indians collective delusion we have some attachments to some of those lands and would prefer that those people aren't harmed.
 
HalBass9 said:
Yea, evidence?
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India gave plenty of evidence after 25/11. Did that change anything?

Isn't the presence of Hafeez Saeed and Masood Azhar in Pakstan proof enough? Wasn't Osama caught inside Pakistan, not too far away from the capital?

Isn't the chief accused in the Bombay Bomb Blasts residing in Pakistan?

The point is, giving proof to a state that sponsors terrorism is an idiotic policy. Even as far as optics are concerned.
 
Rana said:
Bhangrey in Amritsar and Jalandhar?

I swear Sikhs are supposed to be our boys? Why is Pakistan attacking them?
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Missiles flying over Amritsar as we speak.

If one of those fall on the Golden temple, not gonna be good.
 

The people of Indian Punjab made hit songs where they say they can never say Murdabad to Pakistan.


I hope they are safe and well. Request to PAF to stop now please.
 
Rana said:
Did anyone catch Jayne Secker’s interview of the retired Pakistan general around midday today on Sky News?

She literally asked him “are you not happy someone is removing terrorist elements in your country for you?”
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Heard that before. It's like punching an indian in the face and saying "aren't you happy I'm making you tough?"
 
bunda_bindaas said:
I would prefer world peace and brotherhood myself.

How does that change practical realities in front of a nation?
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We Pakistanis don't have the same ill will towards India. After a few land disputes are settled we will embrace you no problem.
 
DeadlyVenom said:

The people of Indian Punjab made hit songs where they say they can never say Murdabad to Pakistan.


I hope they are safe and well. Request to PAF to stop now please.
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As I’ve been saying bro may Allah protect the Indians who want nothing to do with this and protect Muslims on the side of Haqq on both sides. Ameen.

He presides over all and In Sha Allah the strikes will hit those who deserve it and no one else. Nothing is difficult for Him.

We do not believe in statements like “means to and end” and “everything is fair in war”, hope we don’t resort to that now.
 
Suleiman said:
As I’ve been saying bro may Allah protect the Indians who want nothing to do with this and protect Muslims on the side of Haqq on both sides. Ameen.

He presides over all and In Sha Allah the strikes will hit those who deserve it and no one else. Nothing is difficult for Him.

We do not believe in statements like “means to and end” and “everything is fair in war”, hope we don’t resort to that now.
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* an end
 
Another own goal or false flag operation by India?
 
It seems like S-400 has successfully intercepted most of the Pakistani rockets flying over Amritsar.

What an absolute superstar

Man of the match ? Khawaja bhai ? S-400?
 
France offering Pakistan Air Force free Rafales...

Just to prove to the world that the problem isn’t the jets, it’s the pilots.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
We Pakistanis don't have the same ill will towards India. After a few land disputes are settled we will embrace you no problem.
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That's like saying, I will give you a million dollars once I get a billion. what's the guarantee the power lusty military establishment will stop at any land settlement? The harsh reality is that currently Pakistan citizens themselves are not happy under the thumb of military and would get a normal elected govt run the show in a second if they could. But normal awam has no option ,right. Not for Indians bro, thank you.
 
ipog said:
That's like saying, I will give you a million dollars once I get a billion. what's the guarantee the power lusty military establishment will stop at any land settlement? The harsh reality is that currently Pakistan citizens themselves are not happy under the thumb of military and would get a normal elected govt run the show in a second if they could. But normal awam has no option ,right. Not for Indians bro, thank you.
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Normal elected govt will have same policy with India.
 
Oh bloody hell, things escalated quickly.

Indians shot down a Pakistani jet in Rome during mock drills. Black smoke can be seen billowing.
 
Sorry my bad, it was smoke from Papal election. Unrelated to current situation in India and Pakistan.
 
Buzzinga said:
Seems to be same way Pakistan shot down Indian jets during 'Missile attacks'

You never know. Both countries seem to have acquired alien technologies.
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Regarding the jets, You have buried your head so far in the sand that you must have discovered oil by now.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
We Pakistanis don't have the same ill will towards India. After a few land disputes are settled we will embrace you no problem.
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Trust me, most Indians, at least the ones living abroad, have no problems with Pakistanis.

Indians are mostly progressive people -- hard working, knowledge seekers and peace-loving, in general. Unlike the perception, Indians are not obsessed with the state of Pakistan. Politicians try to stir things up, but unless something like Pahalgam happens, people don't really care.

I came to this forum mostly for cricket-related banter and I kind of left because of the rabid hatred that I witnessed towards India and Indians.

Your forum, your prerogative and all.

Doesn't affect me too much. You guys can carry on, I have no intention to stoop down to the lowest forms of bigotry just to satisfy my ego.

One piece of advice I'd give to PPers is this: don't just blindly follow your own Government's narrative. I know I don't. Think about the situation from all angles, if possible.

And yes, read about history -- from unbiased sources.

Not that I expect anyone to follow a single word of what I've written.
 
Pakistanis wishing one of those rockets being dropped over Amritsar actually fell somewhere and did some damage.

So far they’re getting shot down for fun.
 
bunda_bindaas said:
Trust me, most Indians, at least the ones living abroad, have no problems with Pakistanis.

Indians are mostly progressive people -- hard working, knowledge seekers and peace-loving, in general. Unlike the perception, Indians are not obsessed with the state of Pakistan. Politicians try to stir things up, but unless something like Pahalgam happens, people don't really care.

I came to this forum mostly for cricket-related banter and I kind of left because of the rabid hatred that I witnessed towards India and Indians.

Your forum, your prerogative and all.

Doesn't affect me too much. You guys can carry on, I have no intention to stoop down to the lowest forms of bigotry just to satisfy my ego.

One piece of advice I'd give to PPers is this: don't just blindly follow your own Government's narrative. I know I don't. Think about the situation from all angles, if possible.

And yes, read about history -- from unbiased sources.

Not that I expect anyone to follow a single word of what I've written.
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It is a fantastic coincidence that despite considering the situation from all angles, you end up parroting your own government's narrative anyway.
 
bunda_bindaas said:
Which century are you living in? Burns widows alive?

Don't get me started on the ills that face Pakistan. Don't just move on, please RUN.
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At least you don't deny India being the rape capital of the world.

Don't start, you and your Motherland have already been humiliated enough in the past 12 months.
 
bunda_bindaas said:
Which century are you living in? Burns widows alive?

Don't get me started on the ills that face Pakistan. Don't just move on, please RUN.
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Both countries are equally bad, India more so as India has over 1.5 people.

The only difference is that y'all got money. For the past 14 years your leader made you believe y'all are supapowa, probably in eating poa bhaji.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Correction.

Azerbaijan is not just a regional player but a global power. Please address them appropriately next time.

The Mighty Global Power Azerbaijan would be more fitting
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You can call them whatever you like. Facts will remain facts.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
It is a fantastic coincidence that despite considering the situation from all angles, you end up parroting your own government's narrative anyway.
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Did I parrot my Government's narrative? How?

Which official line have I stuck to?

The attacks happened on 9 sites, that's indisputable. I only pointed out that even if Pakistanis were able to shoot down a Rafale jet, that's not the flex you assume it to be.

Given what has happened deep inside Pakistan.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
We can establish the exact number during the discussion. It is important that parameters of debate aren't narrowed prior to a discussion taking place.
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Entire debate is on the number of jets downed by Pakistan. Involved parties should be aware about exact claimed number.

If its 1 say 1. Whats the need of this Kabaddi?
 
Technics 1210 said:
At least you don't deny India being the rape capital of the world.

Don't start, you and your Motherland have already been humiliated enough in the past 12 months.
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We are also the most populated country in the world. Simple statistics will tell you the "most" of anything is likely to happen in India.

And please, coming from a country that begs the IMF for loans, has never had a functional democracy, you shouldn't be talking about humiliation.
 
Buzzinga said:
Entire debate is on the number of jets downed by Pakistan. Involved parties should be aware about exact claimed number.

If its 1 say 1. Whats the need of this Kabaddi?
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You are not denying a specific number; you are denying it happened at all.
 
So those videos from Amritsar were SAM being fired from India to intercept Pak jets trying to cross LOC. If the news of 2 jets been shot down is true, then its massive.

However, nothing on Indian mainstream media yet. All of these are gathered from social media. So take this news with pinch of salt and wait for official confirmation.

The only thing I will say though, Amritsar is 40 km from Lahore. Any misadventure there meaning Lahore will be under danger. Surely Pak cant be that stupid.
 
bunda_bindaas said:
Did I parrot my Government's narrative? How?

Which official line have I stuck to?

The attacks happened on 9 sites, that's indisputable. I only pointed out that even if Pakistanis were able to shoot down a Rafale jet, that's not the flex you assume it to be.

Given what has happened deep inside Pakistan.
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And what kind of flex is striking civilians across the border using long range artillery. Even puny Hamas can do that to israel. Flex when you’re actually able to fight within the Pakistani territory
 
bunda_bindaas said:
We are also the most populated country in the world. Simple statistics will tell you the "most" of anything is likely to happen in India.

And please, coming from a country that begs the IMF for loans, has never had a functional democracy, you shouldn't be talking about humiliation.
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damn.... A country that takes loans from IMF, takes an old generation plane and ends up downing India top of the slot airline....

Must be really embarrassing.
 
Rajdeep said:
So those videos from Amritsar were SAM being fired from India to intercept Pak jets trying to cross LOC. If the news of 2 jets been shot down is true, then its massive.

However, nothing on Indian mainstream media yet. All of these are gathered from social media. So take this news with pinch of salt and wait for official confirmation.

The only thing I will say though, Amritsar is 40 km from Lahore. Any misadventure there meaning Lahore will be under danger. Surely Pak cant be that stupid.
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Should be able to produce alive pilot.

Imagine another Abhinandan kind of plot twit :)
 
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