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Pakistan and India confirm ceasefire ‘with immediate effect’

Kriketer said:
So first you said they didn't post anything about indian jets and only mentioned 3 jets, and now you are saying they made a mistake when I reminded you they specifically mentioned "3 Indian jets decimated"..... Make up your mind as you are contradicting yourself which is completely understandable when faced with humiliating facts. I know you are crying inside as you made this blunder but it's all good, we get it that you Indians are used to seeing Indian airforce humiliations so just another one to make bollywood movies on for many years to come
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Why do you even bother?
 
HalBass9 said:
What a tragic mess engineered by a man who rose to power not through vision, but through venom, selling hatred and illusions of grandeur to a population desperate for direction.

Now the same man, having failed on every front, seeks to weaponize water, as if regional peace can be bullied into submission.

And instead of holding him accountable, a nation of over a billion falls back on nostalgia, 90k POWs, IMF jabs, and hollow claims of wealth, anything to distract from the reality that they were sold lies and bought them willingly.
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Brother, Pakistanis killed them
 
ahsan17 said:
That's called journalism, in case you aren't aware. A lot of cases are built on unnamed officials.

And you are seriously still going on about how they might be Pakistani planes? Use some common sense. It's not some advanced Jiu Jitsu. If they were Pakistani then Indian media and government would be placating it all over.
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Journalism isn't verifiable proof.

Either Pak come out with proof or wait for an Indian/French govt statement.

Why would the Indian govt do it in the middle of a conflict?

This ain't a video game where you display your trophies.

Also not publicly revealing Pakistani air losses means Pak awaam can be sold the chooran of "20 Rafales lost" and they can de-escalate, which is the preference of both governments.

Thing is India literally "bombed" Pakistan but Pakistan is now de-escalating without retaliating. Why would anyone prevent that?
 
saimayubera said:
Journalism isn't verifiable proof.

Either Pak come out with proof or wait for an Indian/French govt statement.

Why would the Indian govt do it in the middle of a conflict?

This ain't a video game where you display your trophies.

Also not publicly revealing Pakistani air losses means Pak awaam can be sold the chooran of "20 Rafales lost" and they can de-escalate, which is the preference of both governments.

Thing is India literally "bombed" Pakistan but Pakistan is now de-escalating without retaliating. Why would anyone prevent that?
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Dude, you have built your own narrative out of touch with the norms. If credible outlets like Reuters have done their journalism, onus is on you to disprove them. You require Modi to come out and say it, that's your own problem. But it's just BS when you say there's no proof.

And why wouldn't India do it in the middle of conflict? They literally did that in 2019 when they claimed they shot down an F-16.

As for the rest of your post, that is your own expert opinion, which you are free to believe.
 
ahsan17 said:
Dude, you have built your own narrative out of touch with the norms. If credible outlets like Reuters have done their journalism, onus is on you to disprove them. You require Modi to come out and say it, that's your own problem. But it's just BS when you say there's no proof.

And why wouldn't India do it in the middle of conflict? They literally did that in 2019 when they claimed they shot down an F-16.

As for the rest of your post, that is your own expert opinion, which you are free to believe.
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You talk about journalism but dont you even read articles?

Reuters is well reputed because it quotes the sources. All the fuss about the articles but what they mentioned is “Pakistan claimed” or “a high ranking french official” and nothing else. If this the extent of prooof, then its really laughable without an iota of physical proofs.

Atleast there is some physical evidence of crash in Bhatinda but its not even verified about Rafale.

Who is building on the narrative here? I understand its a Pakistani forum and the narrative here. But please stop deluding yourself that, narrative building is only on Indian side😂
 
Theanonymousone said:
You talk about journalism but dont you even read articles?

Reuters is well reputed because it quotes the sources. All the fuss about the articles but what they mentioned is “Pakistan claimed” or “a high ranking french official” and nothing else. If this the extent of prooof, then its really laughable without an iota of physical proofs.

Atleast there is some physical evidence of crash in Bhatinda but its not even verified about Rafale.

Who is building on the narrative here? I understand its a Pakistani forum and the narrative here. But please stop deluding yourself that, narrative building is only on Indian side😂
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Quite ironic. They are quoting local government sources in Indian Kashmir. Did you just glance over that?
 
India and Pakistan fire shells across de facto border in Kashmir

India and Pakistan fired shells at each other over their de facto border in the disputed Kashmir region on Wednesday night, according to a statement from the Indian defense spokesperson in Indian-administered Kashmir.

The Pakistani army had fired “small arms and artillery guns” across the Line of Control that divides Kashmir, to which the Indian army “responded proportionately,” said Lt. Col. Suneel Bartwal, India’s defense spokesperson in Jammu.

The two countries’ militaries have been exchanging gunfire across the Line of Control nearly every day since the massacre in April at the heart of this escalation. Gunmen stormed a scenic spot in Indian-administered Kashmir and killed 26 civilians, mostly Indian tourists.

Earlier on Wednesday, an Indian defense source told CNN that overnight shelling by the Pakistani military across the Line of Control had killed 12 civilians and injured 57.

CNN
 
Looking back, Kashmir obsession has been such a curse for Pakistan. Got divided in two and now have a perpetual enemy they can't afford to have.

India will still continue to grow despite such escalations, but Pakistan's downwards trajectory will only getting steeper.
 
Kriketer said:
Ya that's why your jets went down like flies, that's why Hindutva terrorists walk in casually kill a dozen Indians and walk away easily in the most militarized section of IOK, you have a joke of a defense and army. Combat is not your forte, learn to fly jets first then perhaps you can think about a war
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Bhai why do you seem triggered lol.

I don’t fully blame you for the incompetence. The whole world knows Chinese maal is unproven in combat.
:yk
 
Bhaijaan said:
Bhai why do you seem triggered lol.

I don’t fully blame you for the incompetence. The whole world knows Chinese maal is unproven in combat.
:yk
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Just a little fact check help. Neutral sources are now confirming Indian airforce getting humiliated again.
 

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Nothing is going to happen in Lahore etc etc.

Pak have taken the off-ramp.

Their people believe they have "won" - as can be seen in this thread itself so no need to push further.
 
saimayubera said:
Nothing is going to happen in Lahore etc etc.

Pak have taken the off-ramp.

Their people believe they have "won" - as can be seen in this thread itself so no need to push further.
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Exactly. If they have already won, no point in escalating.
 
Indian drone shot down after explosions heard in Gujranwala

Two loud explosions were heard on Thursday morning, after which the air defence system deployed in Gujranwala Cantonment became active and successfully shot down an Indian drone attempting to violate Pakistani airspace.

According to military sources, the drone was flying at a very high altitude when it attempted to intrude into Pakistan’s territory. The air defence system in Gujranwala Cantonment responded swiftly, engaging the drone and bringing it down.

Sources stated that as the drone entered the city’s airspace, the air defence installation in the cantonment area reacted immediately, launching two successful rounds of fire that neutralised the threat. The action took place close to the Gujranwala Cantonment perimeter.

The drone was reportedly heading towards Gujranwala at high altitude when it was intercepted. The debris from the downed drone later fell near the village of Dinga in Gujrat district.

Police sources confirmed that after receiving reports of wreckage, law enforcement agencies, including police, reached the area and secured the remains of the drone from the fields of Pir Jhanda village. The wreckage has been taken into custody for forensic examination to determine the drone’s model and origin.

Fortunately, no casualties or damage to civilian infrastructure have been reported.

Authorities are continuing their investigation into the nature of the drone and the intent behind the airspace violation.

EXPRESS TRIBUNE
 
Devadwal said:
Although he has habbit of posting fake news ( Like I exposed yesterday). If even this news is true mean

Shooting down of Indian Drone is not a news. Indian Drone reaches in the Lahore is a Breaking News.​


:kp

https://twitter.com/x/status/1920323087720923424
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Man if Indian stuff can reach their main centers with so much ease lol.

Pakistan's geography is cursed with their entire economic corridor on the border.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Indian drone shot down after explosions heard in Gujranwala

Two loud explosions were heard on Thursday morning, after which the air defence system deployed in Gujranwala Cantonment became active and successfully shot down an Indian drone attempting to violate Pakistani airspace.

According to military sources, the drone was flying at a very high altitude when it attempted to intrude into Pakistan’s territory. The air defence system in Gujranwala Cantonment responded swiftly, engaging the drone and bringing it down.

Sources stated that as the drone entered the city’s airspace, the air defence installation in the cantonment area reacted immediately, launching two successful rounds of fire that neutralised the threat. The action took place close to the Gujranwala Cantonment perimeter.

The drone was reportedly heading towards Gujranwala at high altitude when it was intercepted. The debris from the downed drone later fell near the village of Dinga in Gujrat district.

Police sources confirmed that after receiving reports of wreckage, law enforcement agencies, including police, reached the area and secured the remains of the drone from the fields of Pir Jhanda village. The wreckage has been taken into custody for forensic examination to determine the drone’s model and origin.

Fortunately, no casualties or damage to civilian infrastructure have been reported.

Authorities are continuing their investigation into the nature of the drone and the intent behind the airspace violation.

EXPRESS TRIBUNE
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Congrats! Perfect revenge.
 
saimayubera said:
Man if Indian stuff can reach their main centers with so much ease lol.

Pakistan's geography is cursed with their entire economic corridor on the border.
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Just think , we haven't strike on Pakistan army installation or any other HVT . :kp
 
BouncerGuy said:
Indian drone shot down after explosions heard in Gujranwala

Two loud explosions were heard on Thursday morning, after which the air defence system deployed in Gujranwala Cantonment became active and successfully shot down an Indian drone attempting to violate Pakistani airspace.

According to military sources, the drone was flying at a very high altitude when it attempted to intrude into Pakistan’s territory. The air defence system in Gujranwala Cantonment responded swiftly, engaging the drone and bringing it down.

Sources stated that as the drone entered the city’s airspace, the air defence installation in the cantonment area reacted immediately, launching two successful rounds of fire that neutralised the threat. The action took place close to the Gujranwala Cantonment perimeter.

The drone was reportedly heading towards Gujranwala at high altitude when it was intercepted. The debris from the downed drone later fell near the village of Dinga in Gujrat district.

Police sources confirmed that after receiving reports of wreckage, law enforcement agencies, including police, reached the area and secured the remains of the drone from the fields of Pir Jhanda village. The wreckage has been taken into custody for forensic examination to determine the drone’s model and origin.

Fortunately, no casualties or damage to civilian infrastructure have been reported.

Authorities are continuing their investigation into the nature of the drone and the intent behind the airspace violation.

EXPRESS TRIBUNE
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Indian drones have successfully hit many areas in Lahore and Gujranwala.

This is after none of Pakistani rockets could land in Amritsar and were intercepted by S-400

Bharat is demonstrating clear superiority over Pakistan in drone and anti drone tech.

Significant
 
Bhaijaan said:
So it’s one now? 🤣

Bhai i will grant you a second attempt at this. You sure
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Considering you weren't even accepting one before, so this is a good progress:). Looks embarrassing on Indians consedring all the gibberish they utter of being superior and their airforce militants jets fall down like flies, just a pathetic airforce which is known to bring humiliation to India and Indians. This Hindu post specifically mentioned about locations Indian jets were crashed in... I mean safely landed from Indian standards
 

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saimayubera said:
Nothing is going to happen in Lahore etc etc.

Pak have taken the off-ramp.

Their people believe they have "won" - as can be seen in this thread itself so no need to push further.
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You have way too much imagination. No idea who made you the spokesman for Pakistan. Lmao
 
Bhaijaan said:
Indian drones have successfully hit many areas in Lahore and Gujranwala.

This is after none of Pakistani rockets could land in Amritsar and were intercepted by S-400

Bharat is demonstrating clear superiority over Pakistan in drone and anti drone tech.

Significant
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So yesterday you said we won't do any further terrorist attacks, and as per you for successfully stopping Pakistani striking back in response and now you are on attack mode again from.not getting hurt at all in retaliation? Godi logic rarely adds up. Absolutely delusional bunch. If your Rafaels can be dropped like mosquitos, don't think it would be hard for Pak army to bring down your drones
 
Kriketer said:
So yesterday you said we won't do any further terrorist attacks, and as per you for successfully stopping Pakistani striking back in response and now you are on attack mode again from.not getting hurt at all in retaliation? Godi logic rarely adds up. Absolutely delusional bunch. If your Rafaels can be dropped like mosquitos, don't think it would be hard for Pak army to bring down your drones
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Nobody said there won’t be around 2.
Absolutely nobody. PM Modi, Amit Shah, Army chiefs, NSA all tight lipped for now and locked in.
 
21 airports across northern India will be closed until Saturday

A total of 21 airports across northern and northwestern India will remain closed until Saturday, according to a senior police official.

“All airports have been sealed. No one will be allowed to go in or out except for security personnel and staff,” Shri Sirivennela of Amritsar Police told Indian news agency ANI, adding that “all scheduled flights” in the region will be impacted.

“Until the situation is under control, we will be following the decisions made by the central government,” Sirivennela told ANI.

Multiple Indian and international carriers issued travel advisories on Wednesday regarding cancellations to and from destinations in northern India, after New Delhi launched strikes on Pakistan and Pakistani-administered Kashmir on Wednesday morning.

Other airlines said they were re-routing or canceling flights to and from Europe due to the escalation between India and Pakistan, with more than two dozen international flights diverted to avoid Pakistan airspace, according to FlightRadar24 data.

Late on Wednesday night (Thursday morning local time), Reuters reported that Pakistan had reopened its airspace and that its airports were fully functional.

CNN
 
ahsan17 said:
You have way too much imagination. No idea who made you the spokesman for Pakistan. Lmao
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Pakistan exists in the world where there are many players. It is a small player. India is a big player.

Indian strikes had tacit US support but now USA/Saudi won't let it escalate further and Pakistan is going to listen to their daddies even if the Pak "awaam" might not like it.
 
Rafales only needed for precision hits like yesterday’s on terrorist hideouts.

Otherwise our clear drone and anti drone superiority over Pakistan ensures we keep hitting them at will as being seen right now.

What is happening right now, Pakistan army might run to the UN soon.

Pakistan has non existent anti drone systems. China has screwed them. At the time of war Chinese stuff proving to be useless. This is beyond embarrassing for China and the people there must ask these genuine questions. Over reliance on one country for defense equipment’s , a country with a bad reputation and unproven capabilities in defense equipments? Proving to be catastrophic!!

Bharat’s policy of self reliance and partnering with more reputed sellers in Israel, Russia etc proving to be a game changer during war time.
 
If India managed to hit Lahore, this is massive and bigger than yesterday. However, I think & hope these stories are false.

Was this a reaction from India after PAF wanted to enter Amritsar last night and failed?
 
Rajdeep said:
If India managed to hit Lahore, this is massive and bigger than yesterday. However, I think & hope these stories are false.

Was this a reaction from India after PAF wanted to enter Amritsar last night and failed?
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Those were just drone not a missile attacks and purpose of sending the drone is successful as they reached at Lahore without any interception.

If Indian launch a brahmos missile no one can intercept it at anywhere in Pakistan. Message is clear.

:kp
 
Devadwal said:
Yesterday @Rana posted this fake news that this child was killed in Indian missile attacks but this photo is from India

This is how Pakistan spread fake news to gain fake sympathy. :kp

https://twitter.com/x/status/1919923716470747644

https://twitter.com/x/status/1920009869580513555
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Pakistan to Gaza, they employ same tactics everywhere, flooding social media with fake pictures of little girls and boys with slow Islamic music in the background. Helps shape the narrative to the gullible.
 
Man, India is based.

Hit 9 sites but in the presentation showed 21 as a warning.

Hitting Lahore with kamikaze drones without explosives as a warning to not do any mischief.

Like I said, Pak's geography is a curse.

Their entire economic corridor is right on the border and can be inundated by missiles/drones. What are Pak gonna attack? Amritsar? Jaiselmer? lol

Karachi is just on the coast and the Indian navy can easily take it out along with Pak's coast guard of a navy.

And Balochistan/KPK is already BLA/TTP territory.

Pak believe because there is somewhat parity between the Air forces they would win in a war. Real war is not just dogfights.

Naval power, drones, missiles, artillery etc India is orders of magnitude better with native production capabilities (unlike Pak who import them).

India can just lay siege on Pakistan w/o ever crossing the border (plus control of the water). How long will they last with 15 billion in reserves?
 
please dont let the civilians be killed. Keep the skirmishes to border regions.

I absolutely don't wish for the war to continue. For once, can Pakistan account for the terrorist groups themselves and clean up the LeT and JeM members?
I hope, India also can give up their operations if they truly have any in Baluchistan in good faith to Pakistan’s initiatives.

Such sad state of affairs that people are putting religion before humanity and triggering these issues. Radical islam needs to be eradicated with iron fist in J&K once and for all.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Rafales only needed for precision hits like yesterday’s on terrorist hideouts.

Otherwise our clear drone and anti drone superiority over Pakistan ensures we keep hitting them at will as being seen right now.

What is happening right now, Pakistan army might run to the UN soon.

Pakistan has non existent anti drone systems. China has screwed them. At the time of war Chinese stuff proving to be useless. This is beyond embarrassing for China and the people there must ask these genuine questions. Over reliance on one country for defense equipment’s , a country with a bad reputation and unproven capabilities in defense equipments? Proving to be catastrophic!!

Bharat’s policy of self reliance and partnering with more reputed sellers in Israel, Russia etc proving to be a game changer during war time.
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Again where 4 random hidutvas walk around, kill dozens and then simply disappear in highest militarized areas clearly says about your joke of a defense system, or random freedom fighters grilling Indian Terorirst army in their heart of campsites by simply walking in. You are so superior that you lose half a dozen jets overnight and you stopped all retaliations from Pakistan while still continuing to attack? You have blacked out your media to save your embarrassment, not Pakistan, we aren't a Godi style media. Indian militant army camps were hit hard and now they are responding in desperation sending drones which are being brought down. If Pakistan wants it can nuke your major cities to oblivion
 
Rajdeep said:
If India managed to hit Lahore, this is massive and bigger than yesterday. However, I think & hope these stories are false.

Was this a reaction from India after PAF wanted to enter Amritsar last night and failed?
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I think so.In Lahore old airport road, defence military building/office and cantonment is there.so its should be a warning not to proceed further.this kind of explosion/violation by drones (crossing border happily with out any obstruction) in the city will be there forever as an insult to pak establishment.
 
Devadwal said:
Those were just drone not a missile attacks and purpose of sending the drone is successful as they reached at Lahore without any interception.

If Indian launch a brahmos missile no one can intercept it at anywhere in Pakistan. Message is clear.

:kp
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If they can’t catch the MBCs even, Brahamos is well well beyond their defense. It won’t be needed. We are fighting Pakistan only and not the mighty Bangla Tigers or The Mighty Global Power Azerbaijan that we need the help of highly advanced Brahmos systems
 
saimayubera said:
The Indian Aircraft Pakistan "says" it Shot Down

Again same. "said", "reported", "claims" lol
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The three jets crashed and were reported to have crashed by India. Not Pakistan. Pictures were taken by local indians and eye witnesses reported this. The other two are claimed by Pakistan and some vids and pics have started to come out.

Now you do the math here. Major engagement in kashmir. Lots of planes flying about. Missiles fired at stand off ranges. Suddenly plane crashes.

There isnconfirmation of one plane being a raffa.

Now let's come to the missiles over amritsar. Pakistan is claiming they didn't fire anything. Now they may have sent some older ones to probe Indias air defence like Iran did to Isreal or it could be four misfires from India as they have launched drones on Pakistan. All drones have been shot down. So the missiles could have been part of that package. We don't know. End of.

What we do know is your airforce is sitting far away , terrified of flying in kashmir.
 
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Multiple sources have mentioned Pakistan NSA and Ajit Doval have spoken.

Not sure whether this about de-escalation or Pakistan giving India a heads up that a retaliatory strike is imminent
 
ahsan17 said:
Lmao, you didn't even read the article. But that's ok, you want Modi to give the nod before you will believe. That's ok.
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I did though and this is what it says -

Two or three Indian aircraft went down inside India’s border, according to Indian officials, Western diplomats and local media reports. Pakistan, for its part, claims it shot down five planes and at least one drone: three Rafale fighter jets, one MIG-29 fighter aircraft, one Su-30 fighter jet and one Heron drone.

The New York Times was unable to independently verify these claims.

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After Pakistan caught lying using fake images of children's death, it is very tough to buy anything coming from them. However, by no means I am stopping your celebration...go ahead.
 
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