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Pakistan and India confirm ceasefire ‘with immediate effect’

Kriketer said:
Absolutely love the fact Pakistan Army didn't just make claims out of thin air like India. They could have made any bogus claim of half a dozen Rafaels shot, but they specifically mentioned 3 of those and 3 other jets. In coming days other jets confirmation will be coming out, sure of that. This is absolute OWNAGE of these warongering bakht. That's a real tamacha on their faces for attacking another country
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And these were all defensive moves. We haven't responded yet.
 
ahsan17 said:
Lmao, you are lying through your nose.
BBC has done its own investigation.

Rest are quoting US, French and Indian government officials

Also, 'unnamed' sources isn't the burn you think it is. In journalism it's quite normal if coming from reputable sources. Western media is basically buying this full scale. But you guys can live in your own bubble.

🤣🤣
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Yes bro.

Pakistanis are always right.

:apology

Lol BBC 😇
 
Romali_rotti said:
Yes bro.

Pakistanis are always right.

:apology

Lol BBC 😇
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There are 3 different videos of Indian army picking up debris of Rafaels :) BBC confirmed to those also along with other neutral sources with their Jet experts confirming debris being picked up is French jet. Cope harder you folks deserve this humiliation
 
Inswing said:
Come on bro like seriously, can you please let me know what's written here? Does U.S. offical means Pakistani sources?



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He's playing dumb. It's a very common bakht tactic.

There's enough information right now to prove this, from multiple sources. You'd have to be an idiot to deny it.

There might genuinely Indians that need Modi's certification before they will believe it. Not romali I think though, he's just playing dumb.
 
RexRex said:
Why would numerous military officials attend the funerals of civilians ? Najam Sethi said Pak patronage of terror groups stopped after the FATF grey list actions 4 yrs ago; that's clearly not true.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1920456050550923739
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Every terrorist Bharat takes down transforms into an innocent civilian post death. Some of them turn into little boys with cake too.
 
RexRex said:
Why would numerous military officials attend the funerals of civilians ? Najam Sethi said Pak patronage of terror groups stopped after the FATF grey list actions 4 yrs ago; that's clearly not true.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1920456050550923739
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In a time of war is it too unusual? Pakistani army does a lot of things other armies don’t. Our coas even meets foreign diplomats so go figure.

But in any case this picture is highly doubtful. Something of this scale can easily be observed. If these were indeed casualties of indian attack, they would have done it in a hush hush and not made a spectacle of it with video cameras and all that.

That’s just me, you are free to believe what you want. Your media is already claiming Lahore and Karachi are destroyed and asim muneer has been fired or fled the country or some such nonsense. So this would actually be pretty mild of a lie to believe. 🤣
 
ahsan17 said:
Lmao, typical bakht playing dumb. 🤣🤣 I clearly said US, French, western and even Indian government officials. I didn't even mention anything from Pakistan. But you guys are used to playing dumb everytime you get caught. Which reminds me, are you playing dumb, or are you actually dumb?
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Oh right the 'unnamed' French source'

Lol

😅😇
 
Stewie said:
I wonder what indian posters think about this here: their own govt is lying to them and telling them nonsense and they believe it blindly:
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Bhakts are brain dead. So, we shouldn't expect normal behaviors from them. :inti

As long as rest of the world knows what happened, that's all matters.

Bhakts frequently make a fool out of themselves and outside world is starting to notice it.
 
As per Indian media, attacks in Karachi, Lahore & Islamabad whereas in Pakistan cities business as usual
 
RexRex said:
Give the coyness of the IAF and their refusal to comment on it, I suspect there probably was some aircraft that was damaged or shot. But its pure speculation on my part.
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Respect your candor and honesty.

I have to say some of the stuff coming from indian media is just 😳

Saw a video where they are claiming they have destroyed Karachi port and have attacked Lahore. Lol

Come on now, seriously!
 
Why do you all need to convince any Indian about PAF dropping IAF jets? The world has recognized that very fact.

Remember these words from 2019, “agar raphayal hotay tu rejult kuch aur hota”
 
The sort of stuff India thinks it’s trying, US and the world tried for years in Afghanistan and Iraq. You cannot wipe out jihadis like that. And now you are two three billion dollar planes and a number of drones short. And we have not even retaliated in proper India yet.

Awesome job so far, India! 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
 
Let these far right Hindutva be Hindutva, they’ve already built a virtual wall by banning most international media, just imagine if they built an actual wall to isolate themselves 🤡
 
HalBass9 said:
Why do you all need to convince any Indian about PAF dropping IAF jets? The world has recognized that very fact.

Remember these words from 2019, “agar raphayal hotay tu rejult kuch aur hota”
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I swear if poor Abhinandan had not happened they would have done the same they are doing now. Completely deny it all! Lol
 
One thing i do wish to say however, while I am livid with how some posters are behaving and demanding genocide, their are many posters that are actively living in Pakistan and India that I hope and pray remain safe.

I really wish you guys stay safe. Any poster who lives in Pakistan and India, I hope and pray this all ends and you guys can live peacefully. All is well.
 
Stewie said:
I swear if poor Abhinandan had not happened they would have done the same they are doing now. Completely deny it all! Lol
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Let them, France, US, and the rest of the aviation world do not care. They’ve already spoken.

Time to spend billions on Eph Tharty Phipe.
 
Stewie said:
The sort of stuff India thinks it’s trying, US and the world tried for years in Afghanistan and Iraq. You cannot wipe out jihadis like that. And now you are two three billion dollar planes and a number of drones short. And we have not even retaliated in proper India yet.

Awesome job so far, India! 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
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Last night India air defense systems intercepted 50+ drones and 8+ missiles according to our official statement from army. That is retaliation IMO. You can also claim that all that all the drone attacks from India and Pakistan are false flags if that makes you sleep well.

But at-least Indians will sleep well knowing that our ADD’s are protecting them. So, far its an awesome job to be honest.

You can claim all you want but one jet aircraft debris has been established. Its not even confirmed if thats Rafale. And each Rafale costs 300m. Not sure where the 3 billion math came from.

Not sure if you know but the Air defense system such as HQ-9 costs 600-800k dollars which were damaged as per our army. It is quite plausible because, how else can drones enter into Rawalpindi which is 300 km from border without getting detected?
So, lets not be pompous here.
 
Theanonymousone said:
Last night India air defense systems intercepted 50+ drones and 8+ missiles according to our official statement from army. That is retaliation IMO. You can also claim that all that all the drone attacks from India and Pakistan are false flags if that makes you sleep well.

But at-least Indians will sleep well knowing that our ADD’s are protecting them. So, far its an awesome job to be honest.

You can claim all you want but one jet aircraft debris has been established. Its not even confirmed if thats Rafale. And each Rafale costs 300m. Not sure where the 3 billion math came from.

Not sure if you know but the Air defense system such as HQ-9 costs 600-800k dollars which were damaged as per our army. It is quite plausible because, how else can drones enter into Rawalpindi which is 300 km from border without getting detected?
So, lets not be pompous here.
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Correction 600-800m dollars
 
Theanonymousone said:
Last night India air defense systems intercepted 50+ drones and 8+ missiles according to our official statement from army. That is retaliation IMO. You can also claim that all that all the drone attacks from India and Pakistan are false flags if that makes you sleep well.

But at-least Indians will sleep well knowing that our ADD’s are protecting them. So, far its an awesome job to be honest.

You can claim all you want but one jet aircraft debris has been established. Its not even confirmed if thats Rafale. And each Rafale costs 300m. Not sure where the 3 billion math came from.

Not sure if you know but the Air defense system such as HQ-9 costs 600-800k dollars which were damaged as per our army. It is quite plausible because, how else can drones enter into Rawalpindi which is 300 km from border without getting detected?
So, lets not be pompous here.
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See here you guys go with that again.

Please just google rafale being down. One rafale and at least two other jets have been confirmed by neutral sources. And there is no confirmation of anything else such as pakistan attacking with drones. Pakistan has denied that.

The indian machinery is hoping to rush pakistan into a response. We have not retaliated yet.

You can continue to believe what you want. Karachi gone, Lahore destroyed, whatever kook aid they are feeding you. That’s your choice.

But as a matter of fact I don’t want us to respond because it will just escalate things further. We have caused more financial damage. If we have destroyed three fighters, the damage India has suffered is in the vicinity of a billion.

Plus human lives lost on both sides won’t have any price. We have lost civilians and so have India across LOC. it would be stupidity to continue this further. You won’t destroy LeT or whatever this way. You are only making them stronger after this.

Don’t believe me just look at how taliban keep coming back.
 
Theanonymousone said:
Last night India air defense systems intercepted 50+ drones and 8+ missiles according to our official statement from army. That is retaliation IMO. You can also claim that all that all the drone attacks from India and Pakistan are false flags if that makes you sleep well.

But at-least Indians will sleep well knowing that our ADD’s are protecting them. So, far its an awesome job to be honest.

You can claim all you want but one jet aircraft debris has been established. Its not even confirmed if thats Rafale. And each Rafale costs 300m. Not sure where the 3 billion math came from.

Not sure if you know but the Air defense system such as HQ-9 costs 600-800k dollars which were damaged as per our army. It is quite plausible because, how else can drones enter into Rawalpindi which is 300 km from border without getting detected?
So, let’s not be pompous here.
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Have a read:

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Irresponsible journalism is one thing, but being a flat-out joker is actually depressing. Because you have to live in the bubble forever at the command of the circus master and that can be hard on the body and mind.
 
Rajdeep said:
Bro, no one is seeking genocide. India has always been a peace loving country and we are never aggressors. However, if we continue to be subjected to terrorism and Pak govt will not take any action on them well aware of their hideouts, India had to draw the line somewhere and needed to take calculated aggression.

1999 Kandahar, 2001 Parliament, 2008 Mumbai, 2016 Uri, 2017 Pathankot, 2019 Pulwama, 2025 Pahalgam...how many more?

Even international MPs are calling India's right to self defend from this terrorism.

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Lmao, dude just stop it with the "India is never aggressor" and India is innocent, never the does wrong, always gets picked on. It's a tired old narrative and no one buys it anymore except bakhts.

Also, no one cares about opinions of Indian origin western politicians.
 
Stewie said:
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CNN cannot independently verify the claim and has reached out to the Indian government for a response. At a later press conference where Indian officials said their strikes had targeted training camps belonging to militant groups Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (LeT) and Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM), officials did not address the claims and took no questions

amp.cnn.com

Pakistan claims Indian Air Force jets shot down in response to missile strikes, in major escalation | CNN

India launched military strikes on targets in Pakistan, both countries said on Wednesday and Pakistan claimed it had shot down five Indian Air Force jets, in an escalation that has pushed the two nations to the brink of wider conflict.
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And that CNN citing french official is going on from Day 1. There is no evidence of debris of 2 more planes. While the Bhatinda one is unconfirmed of whether its Rafale or not.
 
Theanonymousone said:
CNN cannot independently verify the claim and has reached out to the Indian government for a response. At a later press conference where Indian officials said their strikes had targeted training camps belonging to militant groups Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (LeT) and Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM), officials did not address the claims and took no questions

amp.cnn.com

Pakistan claims Indian Air Force jets shot down in response to missile strikes, in major escalation | CNN

India launched military strikes on targets in Pakistan, both countries said on Wednesday and Pakistan claimed it had shot down five Indian Air Force jets, in an escalation that has pushed the two nations to the brink of wider conflict.
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And that CNN citing french official is going on from Day 1. There is no evidence of debris of 2 more planes. While the Bhatinda one is unconfirmed of whether it’s Rafale or not.
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Like I said, you won’t believe it because you don’t want to, which is fine. Lol! That’s always the case with some Indians.

Let us know when you wipe out LeT completely. It won’t happen. But there is no harms in continuing to believe that destroying a few structures will achieve that goal. (Indian logic)
 
Theanonymousone said:
CNN cannot independently verify the claim and has reached out to the Indian government for a response. At a later press conference where Indian officials said their strikes had targeted training camps belonging to militant groups Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (LeT) and Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM), officials did not address the claims and took no questions

amp.cnn.com

Pakistan claims Indian Air Force jets shot down in response to missile strikes, in major escalation | CNN

India launched military strikes on targets in Pakistan, both countries said on Wednesday and Pakistan claimed it had shot down five Indian Air Force jets, in an escalation that has pushed the two nations to the brink of wider conflict.
amp.cnn.com amp.cnn.com

And that CNN citing french official is going on from Day 1. There is no evidence of debris of 2 more planes. While the Bhatinda one is unconfirmed of whether its Rafale or not.
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Bakhts don't know how journalism works. Or they're playing dumb. Unnamed sources are commonly used by reliable sources. Onus is on you to disprove them.

BBC did in fact independently verify though. So you are wrong in independent verification regardless.
 
Energy said:
Irresponsible journalism is one thing, but being a flat-out joker is actually depressing. Because you have to live in the bubble forever at the command of the circus master and that can be hard on the body and mind.
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not for them. They are masters at mental gymnastics

You guys only shot 1 plane down

You guys never shot any plane down

Ok you guys shot down a plane big deal, it wasn’t a Rafale though, it was a paper plane made by 8 year old Rajneesh in Gujrat, so no big deal.

We have captured Lahore, Karachi, Multan and are now heading into Narnia to slay the Night King.

$86 billion defense budget vs $10 billion defense budget… but still need as many lies as possible and maximum civilian casualties to satisfy their blood lust… but want to give us lecture on morality.

Let them live their fantasies. Real life will catch up soon. You can lie to us but can’t lie to God.
 
Stewie said:
Like I said, you won’t believe it because you don’t want to, which is fine. Lol! That’s always the case with some Indians.

Let us know when you wipe out LeT completely. It won’t happen. But there is no harms in continuing to believe that destroying a few structures will achieve that goal. (Indian logic)
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Thanks but no thanks!
I will accept that 1 aircraft may have been destroyed but not sure if its Rafale. The same CNN also reports that Lahore ADDs are compromised. Do yoh believe that?

Atleast empirical or physical evidence is needed to substantiate claims.
DonT know if LeT will get destroyed but hopefully, it will be crippled such that Pak army cannot revive it. Or will they continue yo fund those terrorist groups?
 
Hope my partner in crime @Devadwal is okay. He is from the area where bombings were happening and not been seen since last night.

😣
 
mominsaigol said:
One thing i do wish to say however, while I am livid with how some posters are behaving and demanding genocide, their are many posters that are actively living in Pakistan and India that I hope and pray remain safe.

I really wish you guys stay safe. Any poster who lives in Pakistan and India, I hope and pray this all ends and you guys can live peacefully. All is well.
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It is pretty sad actually seeing people celebrating drone attacks and killing. These guys are crazy... No words.
 
BouncerGuy said:
It is pretty sad actually seeing people celebrating drone attacks and killing. These guys are crazy... No words.
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What about Pak posters celebrating Rafales topic? That single topic will gave 40% of the posts in this thread.

It is indeed very sad that civilian lives are at stake. But this all started with the loss of 26 innocent civilian lives in the name of religion right?
 
Last night’s reporting on Bharatiya media is the lowest they can ever go. Utterly shameful.

I feel ashamed as during the last few days them and some of the X accounts i have been following totally got me believing some BS lies.

I am neither pro war nor anti war.
As a proud Sanatani, I feel it is Dharma to indulge proudly in war to protect dharma.

But this is not the way to go.

Not that the media in our part of the world had much credibility before, but this is the lowest of the lows for them.

In the wake of it, I have decided to pull myself out of this debate because I don’t the trust my news sources anymore so if I have nothing to rely on then obviously I have nothing constructive to add to those discussion.

I hope Rana bhai and Shaz bhai will continue to set the mahaul lit.

Alvida
Khuda hafiz
Shabba Kher
 
Hardly 2 days and the begging and white asking for help has stared. If only the Pakistan govt. had the bravado of Keyboard warriors here.
 
India’s Information Ministry orders ban on ‘streaming media content’ originating in Pakistan

India’s Ministry of Information and Broadcasting has published an “advisory” on its website which orders India-based online platforms and streaming services to discontinue “web-series, films, songs, podcasts and other streaming media content … having its origins in Pakistan”.

The order, dated Thursday, and which the Information Ministry said comes into force with “immediate effect”, was described as being “in the interest of national security”.

Earlier, we reported that India had also asked X to ban access to at least 8,000 accounts in a sweeping crackdown on Pakistan-related content on social media. The ban includes X accounts owned by news outlets and rights groups. Some YouTube and Instagram accounts were also reportedly blocked in India.

ALJAZEERA
 
BouncerGuy said:
Is this guy for real???

Sehwag saying thatPakistan chose war?? Comedy of highest order... He should be a stand-up comedian for such jokes.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1920529068274962732
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Are you denying Pakistan choose proxy war by funding these terrorist orgs and letting them attack India? Ofcourse they will not want conventional war for the consequences that they are facing now.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Is this guy for real???

Sehwag saying thatPakistan chose war?? Comedy of highest order... He should be a stand-up comedian for such jokes.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1920529068274962732
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Historically Pakistan has always been aggressor. Example - Kargil.

Just handover Hafeez Saeed, Masood Azhar, Salahuddin and co to India and be done with it instead of wasting missiles, drones and doing border skirmish. Why does Pakistan hell bent on protecting these rogue elements?
 
Peace in South Asia to remain ‘a dream’ until Kashmir dispute is resolved— ex-Pakistan FM

Pakistan’s former foreign minister Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari this week said peace in South Asia will remain “but a dream” unless India and Pakistan resolve the issue of Kashmir, as tensions soared between the two nuclear-armed neighbors following India’s missile strikes in Pakistani territory.

Bhutto-Zardari’s comments follow surging tensions between India and Pakistan after the former conducted missile strikes into the latter’s territory late Wednesday night, which Pakistan said killed 31 and injured 57. The Indian government said it struck nine Pakistani “terrorist infrastructure” sites involved in planning a deadly attack in Indian-administered Kashmir on April 22. The assault took place on the tourist hill station of Pahalgam in the part of Kashmir governed by India, with 26 men killed.

The Pakistani military said six locations across its territory — Ahmedpur East, Muridke, Sialkot, Shakargarh in the eastern province of Punjab and Kotli and Muzaffarabad in Azad Kashmir — were targeted. Azad Kashmir is the part of the disputed Kashmir valley that is administered by Pakistan. In response, Pakistan military spokesperson Lt. Gen. Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry had said five Indian planes and one combat drone that had attacked Pakistan were shot down, naming three Rafales and an MiG-29 and Su-57 each.

India and Pakistan have fought two out of three wars over the disputed Himalayan territory of Kashmir. Both countries claim the territory in full but administer only parts of it. India accuses Pakistan of arming separatist militants in the part of Kashmir it governs, which Pakistan denies. Islamabad says it only extends moral and diplomatic support to the people of Kashmir.

“This [Kashmir] is a disputed territory,” Bhutto-Zardari, who is also the leader of the Pakistan Peoples Party, a key government coalition ally, told Arab News during an exclusive interview on Wednesday.

“This is a dispute that India took to the United Nations. And until we get to the root cause, until we find a solution to the Kashmir question, until then I believe that peace in South Asia will be but a dream.”

Bhutto-Zardari said Pakistan had called for a credible, international probe into the Pahalgam attack. However, he rejected India had leveled unfounded allegations at Pakistan “without any supporting evidence.”

“All over the world it is known you’re innocent until proved guilty,” the PPP leader said. “Accuse me of a crime but produce the evidence and at least have a trial.”

He criticized the Indian government for becoming “judge, jury and executioner,” adding that its military strikes had targeted innocent civilians and children.

“They violated Pakistan’s sovereign territory,” the former foreign minister said. “Any sovereign nation on the planet would have no choice but to respond in such a circumstance.”

Pakistan has vowed that it has the right to respond to India’s military strikes as per international law. During his address to the nation on Wednesday night, Sharif warned India it would have to “pay the price” for striking Pakistan. His office said earlier on Wednesday that the country’s top national security body had authorized its armed forces to take “corresponding actions” in response to Indian strikes.

www.arabnews.pk

Peace in South Asia to remain ‘a dream’ until Kashmir dispute is resolved— ex-Pakistan FM

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’s former foreign minister Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari this week said peace in South Asia will remain “but a dream” unless India and Pakistan resolve the issue of Kashmir, as tensions soared between the two nuclear-armed neighbors following India’s missile strikes in Pakistani...
www.arabnews.pk www.arabnews.pk
 
Pakistani ppls found taking selfies of the incident spot which hit by Indian drone yesterday…… it seems they are enjoying Indian attack
 
Buzzinga said:
Historically Pakistan has always been aggressor. Example - Kargil.

Just handover Hafeez Saeed, Masood Azhar, Salahuddin and co to India and be done with it instead of wasting missiles, drones and doing border skirmish. Why does Pakistan hell bent on protecting these rogue elements?
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How about you let British invade you again?
 
BouncerGuy said:
Is this guy for real???

Sehwag saying thatPakistan chose war?? Comedy of highest order... He should be a stand-up comedian for such jokes.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1920529068274962732
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This is what's wrong with India. These keyboard warriors will fled their country at the first of danger and here showing the fake bravado just like many Indians here.

They don't live in these border states.They have nothing to lose.
They are pathetic human beings. They are war mongering losers.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Last night’s reporting on Bharatiya media is the lowest they can ever go. Utterly shameful.

I feel ashamed as during the last few days them and some of the X accounts i have been following totally got me believing some BS lies.

I am neither pro war nor anti war.
As a proud Sanatani, I feel it is Dharma to indulge proudly in war to protect dharma.

But this is not the way to go.

Not that the media in our part of the world had much credibility before, but this is the lowest of the lows for them.

In the wake of it, I have decided to pull myself out of this debate because I don’t the trust my news sources anymore so if I have nothing to rely on then obviously I have nothing constructive to add to those discussion.

I hope Rana bhai and Shaz bhai will continue to set the mahaul lit.

Alvida
Khuda hafiz
Shabba Kher
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Have you ever heard of narrative war?

Had we not done it, it would have been peddled from other side like the day before of fake news after fake news - 1 Rafael, 3 Rafaels, 5 Rafaels and even 10 Rafael's shot down plus 14 odd soldiers etc. Heck their defence minister is saying on CNN his source is social media.

So narrative war is key.
 
Pakistan says Economic Affairs Ministry’s X account hacked

Pakistan’s Ministry of Economic Affairs said its social media account was hacked after a post was published on X calling on international partners to provide loans to Pakistan amid rising tensions with neighbouring India, the Reuters news agency reports.

“We are working to have the Twitter [X] switched off,” the ministry told Reuters, adding that they “did not tweet” about it.

Earlier, both Indian and Pakistani media and information watchdogs flagged the barrage of misinformation linked to the ongoing tensions between the two countries.

Aljazeera
 
Rajdeep said:
Have you ever heard of narrative war?

Had we not done it, it would have been peddled from other side like the day before of fake news after fake news - 1 Rafael, 3 Rafaels, 5 Rafaels and even 10 Rafael's shot down plus 14 odd soldiers etc. Heck their defence minister is saying on CNN his source is social media.

So narrative war is key.
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The problem is for example CNN quotes a high ranking french official

Is Pakistan’s FM not a high ranking official??
If he can quote social media, I dont know what to say😂
 
BouncerGuy said:
Is this guy for real???

Sehwag saying thatPakistan chose war?? Comedy of highest order... He should be a stand-up comedian for such jokes.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1920529068274962732
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What a joker, but can't blame him. He is just stating it on base of what he is fed day in and day out by the useless Godi media there. They call themself World's biggest democracy, but their media is even 10 times worse than pakistani media.
 
Wondering what Pakistan's weapon stockpile is like. I am quite sure it won't last long. :salute
 
Bhaijaan said:
In the war between Bharat and Pakistan, it seems like China has been the biggest loser as its c grade maal is getting badly exposed in wartime where Russian S-400s and Israeli drones are making waves.
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You were just saying you won't respond to random claims posted online, yet here you are. Old habits die hard I guess.
 
Bhaijaan said:
In the war between Bharat and Pakistan, it seems like China has been the biggest loser as its c grade maal is getting badly exposed in wartime where Russian S-400s and Israeli drones are making waves.
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I think they will make the biggest money out of this. J-10’s capability seemed to be established. Pakistan has 400 jets which needs to be upgraded. Fighter jets from China lack customer base compared to Lockheed martin or Dassault systems. Plus, damaged HQ-9 systems will be replaced. Importance of ADDs is clearly established.

While India has atleast Aakash systems ready for short range with another home-made project till 350km to be deployed soon for ADD’s, S-400s has been the biggest positive here. Showcasing what modern warfare is all about.

PAF has agility with single engine and quick planes while IAF has long range capabilities with double engine planes.

So, biggest beneficiary will be China here as PAF will procure more expensive double engine planes and J-10Cs in future. They can also procure S400s but they are very expensive 1-1.2B USD. So, they may need to rely on Chinese HQ-9s in the future.




Look at this.
1. Pakistan has 63% share in Chinese arms exports globally.
2. While Chinese arms share in Pakistan imports is a staggering 82%.

This showcases high inter-dependency of China and Pakistan. Pakistan can never afford to go against China even the slightest. Its all either Chinese equipment going boom or bust for Pakistan
 
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