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Pakistan and India confirm ceasefire ‘with immediate effect’

RexRex said:
The idea that Pakistani jets entered Indian airspace and shot down everything that stood in their way while destroying mutiple airbases .. doesn't sound the slightest bit fishy to you ? All while India is in the highest state of altertness at the border, Rafale jets standing by.

For that to happen, you'd have to believe PAF pilots have superhuman capabiltiies .. even Tom Cruise from TopGun couldn't dream of this.
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Ok then we can accept that Indian pilots are Mr Bean and crashed 5 jets on their own...and the articles confirming fron the Hindu confirming their crash weren't mysteriously deleted overnight they never existed in the first place.

Does that work for you?
 
Vikram1989 said:
@Hitman too

Do u think it's true? Somehow I think its false claim by masod or on his behalf .he hates us with passion.so i don't think he will accept anything which satisfy us.
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One thing, don't believe everything that Indian or Pakistani media reports. Having said that, I doubt that info on him is true.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Ok then we can accept that Indian pilots are Mr Bean and crashed 5 jets on their own...and the articles confirming fron the Hindu confirming their crash weren't mysteriously deleted overnight they never existed in the first place.

Does that work for you?
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Mr.Bean theory is possible.
 
Hearing that a j17 has been shot down via Akash missile defence with the PAF pilot killed.

Anyone else heard anything ?.
 
RexRex said:
The idea that Pakistani jets entered Indian airspace and shot down everything that stood in their way while destroying mutiple airbases .. doesn't sound the slightest bit fishy to you ? All while India is in the highest state of altertness at the border, Rafale jets standing by.

For that to happen, you'd have to believe PAF pilots have superhuman capabiltiies .. even Tom Cruise from TopGun couldn't dream of this.
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deffos fishy, a bit like the surgical strikes in Balakot.
 
People should post X-posts, news etc from non-indian and non-pakistani accounts and media outlets.

Pakistani news channels are really bad, but Indian channels are much worse. I have been watching both for the last 2 decades at least.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Ok then we can accept that Indian pilots are Mr Bean and crashed 5 jets on their own...and the articles confirming fron the Hindu confirming their crash weren't mysteriously deleted overnight they never existed in the first place.

Does that work for you?
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Is it 3 or 5?

Other than picture of wreckage of sukhoi from 2024 or footage from Ukraine war or image of drop tank, Do you guys have anything to back your claim of 3/5/7/36 planes crashing?
 

Indian Airstrikes Kill 14 Members Of Masood Azhar's Family​


14 members of Jaish-e-Mohammed chief Masood Azhar's family, including his brother, were reportedly killed in Operation Sindoor, launched by the Indian Armed Forces.

In a decisive move to avenge the recent Pahalgam terror attack that claimed the lives of 25 Indian civilians and one Nepali national, 14 members of Jaish-e-Mohammed chief Masood Azhar's family, including his brother, were reportedly killed in Operation Sindoor, launched by the Indian Armed Forces on Wednesday.

zeenews.india.com

Operation Sindoor: Indian Airstrikes Kill 14 Members Of Masood Azhars Family

14 members of Jaish-e-Mohammed chief Masood Azhars family, including his brother, were reportedly killed in Operation Sindoor, launched by the Indian Armed Forces.
zeenews.india.com zeenews.india.com
 
The only way Pakistan wins round 2 is if they launch a missile into Delhi or Bombay. For now, it looks like Pakistan is restricting this war to IOK, which is pretty useless considering there’s always been cross border firing.
 
Thing is right now obviously there will be counter claims - regarding the number of dead, the nature of dead (terrorists vs innocents), the jets downed etc just like in 2019. That is the fog of war.

But unlike 2019, the visual undeniable proof is on India's side. Of the missiles falling just like the capture of Abhinandan.

Same as with the wars. Apart from 1971, both sides can make the claims etc. But in 1971, you have the visuals of the surrender etc so you can't really falsify it.

So Pak can be happy on the 5,6,10 whatever Rafales downed just like Indians are happy with Balakot strikes and F-16 downed. Are they false or true? Who knows? But they are not concrete and verifiable.
 
Rajdeep said:

Indian Airstrikes Kill 14 Members Of Masood Azhar's Family​


14 members of Jaish-e-Mohammed chief Masood Azhar's family, including his brother, were reportedly killed in Operation Sindoor, launched by the Indian Armed Forces.

In a decisive move to avenge the recent Pahalgam terror attack that claimed the lives of 25 Indian civilians and one Nepali national, 14 members of Jaish-e-Mohammed chief Masood Azhar's family, including his brother, were reportedly killed in Operation Sindoor, launched by the Indian Armed Forces on Wednesday.

zeenews.india.com

Operation Sindoor: Indian Airstrikes Kill 14 Members Of Masood Azhars Family

14 members of Jaish-e-Mohammed chief Masood Azhars family, including his brother, were reportedly killed in Operation Sindoor, launched by the Indian Armed Forces.
zeenews.india.com zeenews.india.com
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Ok .. this sounds like actual fake news. No way is Zee going to have this specific information about casualties.
 
IAJ said:
And what do you have to say about the innocent lives lost direct of this attack by a gov? And about the mosques?
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I know where you are coming from but this is how it is in the modern era.
Drones and missile attacks are the way nations attack each other now. Tank battles on international borders are outdated.
 
IAJ said:
People should post X-posts, news etc from non-indian and non-pakistani accounts and media outlets.

Pakistani news channels are really bad, but Indian channels are much worse. I have been watching both for the last 2 decades at least.
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You guys didnt trust western media when they said OBL was killed in Pakistan, isnt it?

Falze Felag hai bro...khush ho jao
 
Rajdeep said:

Indian Airstrikes Kill 14 Members Of Masood Azhar's Family​


14 members of Jaish-e-Mohammed chief Masood Azhar's family, including his brother, were reportedly killed in Operation Sindoor, launched by the Indian Armed Forces.

In a decisive move to avenge the recent Pahalgam terror attack that claimed the lives of 25 Indian civilians and one Nepali national, 14 members of Jaish-e-Mohammed chief Masood Azhar's family, including his brother, were reportedly killed in Operation Sindoor, launched by the Indian Armed Forces on Wednesday.

zeenews.india.com

Operation Sindoor: Indian Airstrikes Kill 14 Members Of Masood Azhars Family

14 members of Jaish-e-Mohammed chief Masood Azhars family, including his brother, were reportedly killed in Operation Sindoor, launched by the Indian Armed Forces.
zeenews.india.com zeenews.india.com
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Haven’t read the article, but where did they get 14 from?
 
Lots of fake claims going on from both sides.

I don't know what to believe at this point. Only thing that is certain at this point is India has conducted air strikes inside Pakistan (not just POK).
 
YousafTheBeast said:
The only way Pakistan wins round 2 is if they launch a missile into Delhi or Bombay. For now, it looks like Pakistan is restricting this war to IOK, which is pretty useless considering there’s always been cross border firing.
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That is pure war.

India has not bombed Pak military installations but terror camps (ofc Pak will deny this).

So unless Pak knows of places where BLA is hiding in Mumbai and Delhi, they will have to attack civilian or military installations and that is full fledged war.

Pak is just responding on LoC and claiming 5-6 Rafales. This might be their off-ramp.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Haven’t read the article, but where did they get 14 from?
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According to his own admission

Jaish chief says 10 family members, 4 aides killed in Indian strikes: Report​


www.indiatoday.in

Jaish chief says 10 family members, 4 aides killed in Indian strikes: Report

Jaish-e-Mohammad chief Masood Azhar said that 10 members of his family and four aides were killed in 'Operation Sindoor', which was India's response to the Pahalgam massacre wherein Pakistan-backed terrorists killed 26 people, mostly tourists.
www.indiatoday.in www.indiatoday.in

Now you may not trust Indian media but that is different story
 
RexRex said:
Ok .. this sounds like actual fake news. No way is Zee going to have this specific information about casualties.
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In #579 I requested to post news from non-desi media outlets, but apparantly some people are brainwashed and will continue with their propaganda.
 
saimayubera said:
Those are Pakistani "claims".
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Ok fair enough. But a point to concider is that the attacks actually happend in Pakistan and there are pictures showing children and woman injured/dead.
 
Buzzinga said:
Lots of fake claims going on from both sides.

I don't know what to believe at this point. Only thing that is certain at this point is India has conducted air strikes inside Pakistan (not just POK).
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Pakistan now need to do the same, take the fight to indian cities
 
Rajdeep said:
According to his own admission

Jaish chief says 10 family members, 4 aides killed in Indian strikes: Report​


www.indiatoday.in

Jaish chief says 10 family members, 4 aides killed in Indian strikes: Report

Jaish-e-Mohammad chief Masood Azhar said that 10 members of his family and four aides were killed in 'Operation Sindoor', which was India's response to the Pahalgam massacre wherein Pakistan-backed terrorists killed 26 people, mostly tourists.
www.indiatoday.in www.indiatoday.in

Now you may not trust Indian media but that is different story
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Is there a video or official statement released by them?
 
IAJ said:
In #579 I requested to post news from non-desi media outlets, but apparantly some people are brainwashed and will continue with their propaganda.
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I agree on this. Claims from Zee news, Aajtak, Dawn, Samaa etc should be taken with a bucket of salt. They all are fake news peddlers,they only care for TRP
 
Rajdeep said:

Indian Airstrikes Kill 14 Members Of Masood Azhar's Family​


14 members of Jaish-e-Mohammed chief Masood Azhar's family, including his brother, were reportedly killed in Operation Sindoor, launched by the Indian Armed Forces.

In a decisive move to avenge the recent Pahalgam terror attack that claimed the lives of 25 Indian civilians and one Nepali national, 14 members of Jaish-e-Mohammed chief Masood Azhar's family, including his brother, were reportedly killed in Operation Sindoor, launched by the Indian Armed Forces on Wednesday.

zeenews.india.com

Operation Sindoor: Indian Airstrikes Kill 14 Members Of Masood Azhars Family

14 members of Jaish-e-Mohammed chief Masood Azhars family, including his brother, were reportedly killed in Operation Sindoor, launched by the Indian Armed Forces.
zeenews.india.com zeenews.india.com
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Hoping against hope this turns out to be true.
 
Geo news : Shiv sena spokesman says 15 members of his family have been killed after a missile launched from Pakistan hit their home.

@Rajdeep

It’s up to you if you want to trust me.
 
guard said:
Pakistan now need to do the same, take the fight to indian cities
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They are free to do it if they think they can sustain a full blown war. As per Indian claim no military installations or civilian areas were targeted. They only targeted terrorist hideouts.
 
PakPremi said:
Killing civilians and destroying places of worship should not be celebrated. I even feel sorry for the pilots who likely died from the 5 planes downed.
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Dnt wry they are enjoying a nice cup of tea in their jannat ie their base unless of course your media attack destroyed the said base too ..5-6 jets down brigade HQ blown up and pathankot airbase destroyed..abhi Navy kyun chor diye ho..add some submarine too to the list of assets destroyed
 
guard said:
Pakistan now need to do the same, take the fight to indian cities
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It will be a coward act by Paksitan to attack civilians like India did. If Pakistan want a revenge they should go for the indian military instalments or just drop the idea of any attack.

India attacks civilians and then are fast to say we did not attack military posts, we don't wan't escalation. LOL when you have attacked, why are you giviing statments like chickens? All they have done is to please their hardcore hindutvas, like many on this platform.
 
Such a shame that the great Islamic scholar Zaid Hamid's youtube account is withheld in India. Would have been an epic comedy of epic proportions if we could listen to his views.​
 
India has won the toss and elected to receive. A lot of people focusing on the downed Indian Rafales and Sukhios. Pakistan’s retaliation will come in the coming hours and they will be massive and disproportionate and will bring pain and humiliation to the Hindu nationalists.

Horrible decision by India and it has only itself to blame.
 
Waiting credible information on :-

  • Which missiles and drones were used by Bharat
  • Which aircrafts were deployed by both airforces and which aircrafts have been shot down.
 
chinaman00 said:
India has won the toss and elected to receive. A lot of people focusing on the downed Indian Rafales and Sukhios. Pakistan’s retaliation will come in the coming hours and they will be massive and disproportionate and will bring pain and humiliation to the Hindu nationalists.

Horrible decision by India and it has only itself to blame.
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Lol Pak Defense Minsiter already said they won't retaliate If India atleast stops now.
 
IAJ said:
Ok fair enough. But a point to concider is that the attacks actually happend in Pakistan and there are pictures showing children and woman injured/dead.
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Ofc those counter claims will remain.

India is claiming only terrorists killed.

That is the fog of war.

Lots of innocents died in Pahalgam too. Of course Pakistan "claims" it didn't do anything which it has the right to just as India has the right to accept it or not.

Now Pak has the right to escalate further if they choose just as India has the right to escalate after that.
 
No proof of any downed Aircrafts or any prisoners of war if they have indeed downed any Aircraft.
 
chinaman00 said:
India has won the toss and elected to receive. A lot of people focusing on the downed Indian Rafales and Sukhios. Pakistan’s retaliation will come in the coming hours and they will be massive and disproportionate and will bring pain and humiliation to the Hindu nationalists.

Horrible decision by India and it has only itself to blame.
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To Indian posters - Bolne do'h bechare ko'h ..... takleef hua hain.
 
Rajdeep said:
This is depressing to see...no one wants that.
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You guys wanted this. You guys are enjoying this. Don't dare to pretend like you have any empathy for loss of innocent lives. Your coward army attacked civilian areas.

You must be naive to think that any so called terrorists would be there asking for their death when any attack have been on cards for two weeks. This is pure evil.
 
IAJ said:
It will be a coward act by Paksitan to attack civilians like India did. If Pakistan want a revenge they should go for the indian military instalments or just drop the idea of any attack.

India attacks civilians and then are fast to say we did not attack military posts, we don't wan't escalation. LOL when you have attacked, why are you giviing statments like chickens? All they have done is to please their hardcore hindutvas, like many on this platform.
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India attacked terrorist camps and eliminated terrorists. Sad if you consider them to be civilians. It's the Pakistani defense minster who is saying they don't want escalation and will not retaliate if India atleast stops now.
 
IAJ said:
You guys wanted this. You guys are enjoying this. Don't dare to pretend like you have any empathy for loss of innocent lives. Your coward army attacked civilian areas.

You must be naive to think that any so called terrorists would be there asking for their death when any attack have been on cards for two weeks. This is pure evil.
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India has never been instigator, not today and never in history. However, if we keep getting terrorism in our soil every other year emanating from Pakistan, it was high time we take some action. Any civilian or innocent people die in the process of a war situation is depressing and not something intentional.
 
Om Shanti to any innocent Pakistani who lost his life or was affected by this retaliation of ours.

We were forced to act brother.

Hope your government offers to cooperate rather than stay in denial mode of their involvement in Anti Bharat activities.
 
Unless Pakistan attacks Shiv Sena call centre then India has won the battle in my eyes. (If it’s true that they hit Masood’s house)
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Unless Pakistan attacks Shiv Sena call centre then India has won the battle in my eyes. (If it’s true that they hit Masood’s house)
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Its been confirmed by credible Pakistan sources.
They hit his house with pin point accuracy.
 
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