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Pakistan and India confirm ceasefire ‘with immediate effect’

I didn't share any article I shared a video. Which part of the video mentioned Lashkar?
The India TV screenshot that you provided, the actual video of that screenshot was taking about that.

I have been watching India TB since 4 am
I already posted the same some hours ago here. The handle you shared has been consistently posting India TV said this & that since last night when it never happened
 
Pak Army destroys Indian battalion headquarters, several soldiers killed



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Reuters has confirmed three downed jets. Also visual confirmations of three. Indian journalists have confirmed one for sure and two others too. Indian media has confirmed three "crashes". There is no denying this one. Now were they shot down or not? I mean you do the math. Large forces in the area. Planes flying around. Suddenly 3 crashes.

As for targeting Pakistan. You hit very soft civilian targets and killed women and children. Do you think this will cause an escalation or de escalation??
I think this is it and nothing further will happen other than some LOC violations.
It is my honest belief.
 
Reuters has confirmed three downed jets. Also visual confirmations of three. Indian journalists have confirmed one for sure and two others too. Indian media has confirmed three "crashes". There is no denying this one. Now were they shot down or not? I mean you do the math. Large forces in the area. Planes flying around. Suddenly 3 crashes.

As for targeting Pakistan. You hit very soft civilian targets and killed women and children. Do you think this will cause an escalation or de escalation??

Has there been confirmation of it being a Rafale?

If one of the 30-40 years old aircraft’s went down after striking targets, I’d say job well done.

Rafales are expensive though in that case I’d say 50-50, we won some we learnt some.

Is PAF going to cross the border ?

I already said long ago both our airforces are not among Top 20.
 
Has there been confirmation of it being a Rafale?

If one of the 30-40 years old aircraft’s went down after striking targets, I’d say job well done.

Rafales are expensive though in that case I’d say 50-50, we won some we learnt some.

Is PAF going to cross the border ?
There are literally fake images of “rafale” down - with made in India written on planes. Rafale is not even made in India. That is the level of desperation some are going for
 
As has been pointed out, the Indian public being force fed information about Pakistan’s military and economic structure are under the false impression that they are a rogue section of the world operating like Hammas, and India is apparently well within their rights to defend themselves against a weak, disorganised enemy with little means to defend themselves a bit like Hammas.

the crux of all Pak’s issues generally stem from the strength of its military regardless off which side of the fence you are on, they have made a huge mistake
 
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France aviation industry looking at this battle nervously.

The Rafales better be worth their price tag or we going to push the Americans to give us F35s or we going with Russian Sukhoi Su 57s
 
Brother,
I have no problem with the obvious stuff. We are in a state of war and sensitive information isn’t going to be released for anyone’s amusement by either side.

I’m just trying to analyse this escalation from a broader view.

What do you think, Pakistan likely to retaliate in a similar manner or you’re good with downing 6 fighter jets including a couple of Rafales?

What serves your objectives better
Well, if I know the Pakistan sentiment, the 6 jets downed in defensive measures isn’t the end all. Those 6 jets could have been Pakistani had the other pilots been better. It’s not an equal retaliation.

They will and should strike equally in Indian territory to remind the IAF that Pakistan has the capability to strike where it hurts most as well. I think Pakistan needs to keep going until the message has gone across. India can keep going as well with “we will give a response”, and Pakistan can keep going with theirs.

It’s about time the world sees how War in this region is no joke.
 
Reuters has confirmed three downed jets. Also visual confirmations of three. Indian journalists have confirmed one for sure and two others too. Indian media has confirmed three "crashes". There is no denying this one. Now were they shot down or not? I mean you do the math. Large forces in the area. Planes flying around. Suddenly 3 crashes.

As for targeting Pakistan. You hit very soft civilian targets and killed women and children. Do you think this will cause an escalation or de escalation??

The laughable part is they hit soft targets like cities which inevitably meant civilian casualties and then called it a strike aimed at de escalation. The evil intent is barely masked here and they will be counting on international govts keeping relatively quiet even if they don't agree with the unfounded aggression from India. For capitalists the markets will always trump morality. For them Capitalism IS morality.
 
How can India deny if there is proof?
Tbh I don’t think Pakistan will care if India wants to deny it. They have denied the lapses of their own security agencies when their soldiers or civilians are being slaughtered by untrained miliatia from within…so they can also deny future lapses of security.

It’s all good.
 
The India TV screenshot that you provided, the actual video of that screenshot was taking about that.

I have been watching India TB since 4 am
I already posted the same some hours ago here. The handle you shared has been consistently posting India TV said this & that since last night when it never happened
Link the post. I don't know what one you mean. I posted a tweet with a video.
 
Well, if I know the Pakistan sentiment, the 6 jets downed in defensive measures isn’t the end all. Those 6 jets could have been Pakistani had the other pilots been better. It’s not an equal retaliation.

They will and should strike equally in Indian territory to remind the IAF that Pakistan has the capability to strike where it hurts most as well. I think Pakistan needs to keep going until the message has gone across. India can keep going as well with “we will give a response”, and Pakistan can keep going with theirs.

It’s about time the world sees how War in this region is no joke.

We did strike precision targets inside Pakistan so we did at least half the mission even if we lost the fighter jets and it’s not confirmed if you dropped one of the expensive ones. If it’s the soviet era maal nobody is going to mourn losing them.

Time for the Chinese to make a name for their fleet i think. They will be looking at your response with a keen eye. Also a huge test for our defensive tech. Interesting times.

You think the retaliation is coming in 48-72 hours or you will take your sweet time like we did
 
*#Breaking:*

*India reportedly hit the Neelum–Jhelum Hydropower Plant in Azad Kashmir during overnight strikes, Pakistani military spokesperson Major General Ahmed Sharif confirmed* .
 
*#Breaking:*

*India reportedly hit the Neelum–Jhelum Hydropower Plant in Azad Kashmir during overnight strikes, Pakistani military spokesperson Major General Ahmed Sharif confirmed* .
A false flag most likely. Indian press briefing didn't mention anything like that.
 
*#Breaking:*

*India reportedly hit the Neelum–Jhelum Hydropower Plant in Azad Kashmir during overnight strikes, Pakistani military spokesperson Major General Ahmed Sharif confirmed* .
Use this fake propaganda to attack's on Indian hydropower plant and dam in Jammu & Kashmir . :kp
 
Asim Munir doesn’t F around.

They probably already have a full proof plan waiting for India to blink first. India have done it. They are not making plans as a consequence, the plans are already set in motion.

Should i go on vacations.
Maybe to Almaty for a month or so.

I thought of Baku but Azerbaijanians are friendly with Pakistan 🇵🇰 😟
 
A false flag most likely. Indian press briefing didn't mention anything like that.
I think we’ve established India will not accept anything besides a narrative of some random Freshy in Kashmir picking up an AK47 and attacking an Indian soldier.
 
Good if that makes you happy
How can India deny if there is proof? Just like how India dropping missiles in Pak cant be denied as there is actual proof of it.
Opposition will parade with those pics for the rest of their life .its death bell for bjp.
 
Asim Munir doesn’t F around.

They probably already have a full proof plan waiting for India to blink first. India have done it. They are not making plans as a consequence, the plans are already set in motion.
Any examples of this? Your words sound scary there. 😨
 
Even the PIA got its act together recently, reported its first full year profit in many years and issues proposals to lease some of GE’s products for their 777 fleet and also requested MRO services, they’ve done the same for their P&W engines for the ATR42-500’s they have as well, and that’s the PIA, you think the PAF is here to mess around?

 
To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace."

No matter the outcome Pakistan is ever ready
 
I am not going to judge any Pakistani poster's heart or intellect based on what they type today. Patriotism among desis is a little excessive, often leading to delusional rants.
 
I am wondering why Dassault Aviation shares tanking, while Chengdu Aircraft Corporation are flying hard. Kek
 
Godi fauj and airforce in a total tailspin 😆

I wouldn't be surprised if they crashed or shot down their own aircraft through incompetency .

And the west and 2 tier kier are projecting these as an alternative to China.😆

Give them f22 and I will assure indians will find a way to screw it up or crash it . I still remember when they damaged the paintwork on the rafales with cow dung urine and coconuts.
 
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Spoke to an Indian colleague at work and their elderly (recent surgery needing rehab) now cannot travel as airport in the city is closed. She says there is black-out, and people have been told to stay at home. Flight was booked for today but cancelled and cannot be rescheduled as airport may remain closed tomorrow as well. Looks like a grim situation for the common folk there.
 
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We did strike precision targets inside Pakistan so we did at least half the mission even if we lost the fighter jets and it’s not confirmed if you dropped one of the expensive ones. If it’s the soviet era maal nobody is going to mourn losing them.

Time for the Chinese to make a name for their fleet i think. They will be looking at your response with a keen eye. Also a huge test for our defensive tech. Interesting times.

You think the retaliation is coming in 48-72 hours or you will take your sweet time like we did
Precised targets as in Civilians? Yeah, defo they did a good job and Congrats :)
 
Pakistan claimed they dont harbour terrorists but JeM’s Masood Azhar’s family living royally in Pakistan now.

Wow!
 
Just heard on the news that Uncle Khwaja Asif apparently said Pakistan won't escalate any further if India stops now.

Anyone else heard this ?
 
Reuters has confirmed three downed jets. Also visual confirmations of three. Indian journalists have confirmed one for sure and two others too. Indian media has confirmed three "crashes". There is no denying this one. Now were they shot down or not? I mean you do the math. Large forces in the area. Planes flying around. Suddenly 3 crashes.

As for targeting Pakistan. You hit very soft civilian targets and killed women and children. Do you think this will cause an escalation or de escalation??

The Indian Air Force is living up to its heritage as the pawns of the PAF and the Indians are living up to their reputation of denialism.

These are the same people who claim
With a straight face abhinonedone shot down an f-16 despite the global rebuke and mockery they get every time they make the claim.
 
Both sides exaggerate in a conflict; it's normal. However, like in all previous encounters between Pakistan and India, neutral reports of on-ground "soldier-level " battles are closer to the Pakistani narrative.
 

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If 3 Rafales went down, Macron better give us a discount on the purchase of the next 35.
He might have to reconsider selling to India, a bit like PCB is reconsidering to sell Multan Sultan’s to Ali Tareen.
 
If 3 Rafales went down, Macron better give us a discount on the purchase of the next 35.
Or we can go for Chengdus if China grants us the privilege. But need to confirm Rafales going down before that.
 
Or we can go for Chengdus if China grants us the privilege. But need to confirm Rafales going down before that.
Well their stocks are tanking like their planes, on the other hand Chengdus stocks are up like 18% ...
 
Well their stocks are tanking like their planes, on the other hand Chengdus stocks are up like 18% ...
You misled me earlier with a post already. I checked Dasault stocks, they are down 0.25 percent today, that's not tanking.

Chengdus did see a big jump though, I'll concede that.
 
Not trolling, but this actually sets a good precedent for Bharat. Attack terror infrastructure deep within Pakistan and drop some planes on the way for Pakistan to claim a moral victory.

Everybody wins.

Your govt still hasn't provided any proof of a link between Pakistan and the terror attack at Pahalgam. So in fact attacking Pakistan territories is nothing to do with it, just an unprovoked attack as far as any neutral can see.
 
Your govt still hasn't provided any proof of a link between Pakistan and the terror attack at Pahalgam. So in fact attacking Pakistan territories is nothing to do with it, just an unprovoked attack as far as any neutral can see.
Bharat did brief some nations before attack and some evidence must have been shared for such an action to go ahead.

If not, then I do agree that the operation can look like unprovoked gundagardi. I don't know those details Captain.
 
Pakistan military authorised to strike India ‘at time, place and manner of own choosing’

The National Security Committee (NSC) on Wednesday authorised the armed forces of Pakistan to undertake corresponding actions in response to Indian airstrikes that targeted multiple civilian areas.

The NSC statement comes in the aftermath of coordinated missile, air and drone strikes launched by the Indian armed forces during the night of May 6–7. The attacks reportedly targeted multiple locations in Punjab and Azad Jammu and Kashmir, including Sialkot, Shakargarh, Muridke, Bahawalpur, Kotli, and Muzaffarabad.

The strikes resulted in the deaths of civilians — including women and children — and damage to civilian infrastructure such as mosques and a hydropower facility.

"On the night of 6/7 May 2025, the Indian Armed Forces launched coordinated missile, air and drone strikes on multiple locations within Pakistan’s sovereign territory, including Sialkot, Shakargarh, Muridke and Bahawalpur in Punjab, Kotli and Muzaffarabad in Azad Jammu and Kashmir," the statement read.

"These unprovoked and unjustified attacks deliberately targeted the civilian areas, on the false pretext of presence of imaginary terrorist camps, resulting in the martyrdom of innocent men, women, and children, and causing damage to the civilian infrastructure, including mosques," it added.

The forum also noted that India’s act of aggression also caused grave danger to commercial airlines belonging to brotherly gulf countries, endangering the lives of thousands of on-board passengers. Besides, the Neelum-Jhelum Hydropower Project was also deliberately targeted in violation of international conventions.

NSC termed the attacks "unprovoked, cowardly, and unlawful acts of war," and emphasised that it reserves the right to respond under Article 51 of the UN Charter — which affirms a member state's right to self-defense.

The statement added that the Pakistan Air Force had downed five Indian fighter aircraft and one drone during its defensive operations and reaffirmed the nation's readiness to respond to further provocations. It also criticised India for endangering international civil aviation and violating international humanitarian norms by targeting civilian areas.

"Pakistan has been emphatically rejecting Indian allegations claiming the presence of terrorist camps on its territory," the statement added.

The NSC further said that immediately after April 22 attack, Pakistan made a sincere offer for a credible, transparent and neutral investigation, which unfortunately was not accepted. The international media personnel had already visited these “imaginary terrorist camps” on 6 May 2025, and more visits were planned for May 7 2025.

However, apprehensive of its falsehood being exposed, and without a shred of evidence about its claims, the Indian leadership, bereft of any morality, has now gone to the extent of attacking innocent civilians in order to satiate its delusional thoughts and short-sighted political objectives, it added.

Calling on the international community to take notice, the NSC urged global powers to hold India accountable for what it described as a deliberate escalation with potential regional consequences.

Source: Tribune.com.pk
 
“lockdown in the city of the wanted”
 
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Any comments from Najam Sethi, the lounge diplomacy expert.
 
It’s against the principals of Islam and warfare.

Emotional statement.

Good.

I think such statements must be condemned on either side.

I don't think targeting mosques was ever our plan either. Truth is we have lots of temples, gurudwaras and mosques everywhere in our parts of the world. In fact a Gurudwara in Bharat has also been hit today.
 
Both sides exaggerate in a conflict; it's normal. However, like in all previous encounters between Pakistan and India, neutral reports of on-ground "soldier-level " battles are closer to the Pakistani narrative.
Now they have issues with CNN?

World knows the rubbish that is Indian News Channels
 
I don't think targeting mosques was ever our plan either
Lol

They were terrorist camps according to Indian intelligence. Specific Mosques that harboured terrorist ideology. Pakistan will use the same excuse to target extremist Hindutva hubs.
 
Let's pray for an end to this soon. On both sides Kashmiris are getting killed. Homes getting bombarded, people have to leave their homes . There is no winner in war.
 
Let's pray for an end to this soon. On both sides Kashmiris are getting killed. Homes getting bombarded, people have to leave their homes . There is no winner in war.
India should have known this bro. They should learn the hard way. Fair is fair.
 
After randomly attacking and killing civilians, the smaller nation Pakistan hits back hard and its certain now multiple indian jets are destroyed.

In Bollywood and ipl land there will be a fantastic story but Imo this incident will embarrass India pretty badly in years to come.
 
Any Pakistani retaliation from here will put the onus back on PM Modi to go for Round 2.0 this time with more missiles and drones. He has complete freedom and resources to do it.

Pakistan must be doing a deeper risk assessment right now. I think the whole 6 enemy aircrafts down narrative is smart to cling on to for now from their POV. Let Bharat deny it and they can go back home with some thing to calm down their angry local population by telling them they dropped some expensive imported aircrafts of Bharat. It makes the Chinese happy and you get 2 J17s free as a marketing gift.
 
Let's pray for an end to this soon. On both sides Kashmiris are getting killed. Homes getting bombarded, people have to leave their homes . There is no winner in war.

India bulldozed numerous homes and are torturing hundreds in detention. Occupiers are by nature are evil, they will continue this regardless .

Indian forces have taken a pretty bad beating for their state terrorism so will stop ...if not and they lob over more missiles , it will continue to the bitter end .
 
India fired missiles into Pakistani-controlled territory in several locations early Wednesday, killing at least 26 people including a child, in what Pakistan’s leader called an act of war.

India said it struck infrastructure used by militants linked to last month’s massacre of tourists in the Indian-controlled portion of Kashmir.

Pakistan claimed it shot down several Indian fighter jets in retaliation as two planes fell onto villages in India-controlled Kashmir. At least seven civilians were also killed in the region by Pakistani shelling, Indian police and medics said.

Tensions have soared between the nuclear-armed neighbors since the attack, which India has blamed Pakistan for backing. Islamabad has denied the accusation.


Source: Associated Press (https://apnews.com/live/india-pakistan-attack-pahalgam-kashmir?utm_source=copy&utm_medium=share).
 
Any Pakistani retaliation from here will put the onus back on PM Modi to go for Round 2.0 this time with more missiles and drones. He has complete freedom and resources to do it.

Pakistan must be doing a deeper risk assessment right now. I think the whole 6 enemy aircrafts down narrative is smart to cling on to for now from their POV. Let Bharat deny it and they can go back home with some thing to calm down their angry local population by telling them they dropped some expensive imported aircrafts of Bharat. It makes the Chinese happy and you get 2 J17s free as a marketing gift.

There is clear evidence of jets being dropped. India will have little choice to admit this.

From the independent

at least five Indian planes were downed. The Independent spoke to witnesses at the site of one crashed jet, who described a huge explosion lighting up the night sky, but New Delhi has not confirmed how many planes it lost.
 
Pakistan asserts right to self-defence, vows retaliation

Citing Article 51 of the UN Charter, Pakistan has asserted its right to self-defence and warned that it reserves the right to respond to India “at a time, place and manner of its choosing” to avenge the loss of civilian lives and the "violation" of its sovereignty.

The country’s armed forces, it said in a statement, have been "fully authorised" to carry out "corresponding actions".

The statement followed a meeting of Pakistan's National Security Committee (NSC), chaired by Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif.

It condemned the strikes, offered condolences to the relatives of those killed in the strikes and pledged to address the "grave developments arising out of India’s unprovoked, cowardly and unlawful act of war".

The statement said Pakistan’s military had “resolutely defended” the country’s territorial integrity against what it called Indian aggression.

Pakistan said in the statement that it had shot down five Indian fighter jets and drones - India has not responded to this claim.

BBC
 
Pakistani posters need to stop peddling fake news. Lets be honest, after getting humiliated in UN yesterday, today is a decisive day of retribution which no one expected. The myth or news of all those downed jets is debunked. However, even if we buy this theory of 3 Indian jets have been downed to make some posters here happy, it is still a win for India. In a war, planes will come down...that is natural. However, India has achieved its target of hitting the terrorist targeta in Pakistan and caused maximum damage. It is a decisive win for India unless Pak now comes back and attack.
 
Need a major retaliation. Shooting planes is not it.

India crossed a line by striking mainland Pakistan, an unwritten rule which was not broken before. Whether these duffers retaliate let's see. But they need to. Deterrence needs to be established and quickly.
 
And where do Pakistan’s radicals hide? In India according to Akshay Kumar movie called Holiday?

I think we got you this time as far as the "hits" are concerned.
Pulwama time we dropped some trees. This time it seems like the delayed response helped us get half the job done.

But you got us on our way back home it seems.
:yk
 
Well I am hearing j17 was downed with a PAF.pilot killed. So maybe after that..
Yaar if this was true it would have crashed in Pakistan. And you know what we are like it would have been all.over social.media and we would have said its a MIG...but hasn't happened. Remember what I told you about the IAF..its a giant public sector money pit.
 
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