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Pakistan and India confirm ceasefire ‘with immediate effect’

Stock markets rallying.

Fear index - down.
Gold - down.
Indices - up.

Tell tale signs of market confidence, while India is receiving its due.

The world does not care about Modi's India anymore.
 
Congratulations to Pakistan for once again demonstrating the moral clarity to condemn the Phalgham attack without hesitation, and for standing firm against aggression that shamelessly targeted civilians. Credit to the Pakistani military for responding with discipline, choosing military targets over political theatrics.

In contrast, the Indian government’s actions, led by RSS ideology, reveal more about their cowardice than their strength.

Once again, the Two Nation Theory didn’t just find relevance, it found vindication.
 
Indians seem to use fuel tank excuse for everything

Last week when they bombed their own village it was fuel tank.

Yesterday when planes got shot down it was a fuel tank.

:kp

The entire nation is inhaling fumes of hatred so you can’t blame them.
 
You guys wanted this. You guys are enjoying this. Don't dare to pretend like you have any empathy for loss of innocent lives. Your coward army attacked civilian areas.

You must be naive to think that any so called terrorists would be there asking for their death when any attack have been on cards for two weeks. This is pure evil.
Wait are you admitting they are terror camps but they have been vacated. All along your govt and. Many posters say that Pak has no terror camps and everything is Indian propaganda. Thanks for your honesty and courage to say the truth. Hope you stay safe
 
Its going to kick off in the UK… expecting the inevitable fireworks soon…hopefully some of the inds here will be here and present.
 
Pakistan again shuts airspace over Lahore

Pakistan Airports Authority (PAA) issued a new Notice to Airmen (NOTAM) on Wednesday regarding closure of Lahore’s airspace for all kinds of commercial flights, reported 24NewsHD TV channel.

According to the NOTAM, airspace routes J-139, J-165 and J-186 were closed for all kinds of air traffic operations.

The airspace was closed for twenty-four hours due to operational reasons. The flights from Islamabad will be allowed to land after obtaining permission from Air Traffic Control (ATC) Lahore.

On the other hand after Lahore and Karachi, airspace between Islamabad to Karachi and Lahore was also restored.

Now Pakistan International Airlines flights will depart for Madina, Karachi and Islamabad as per schedule.

Apart from PIA, flights of other airlines will also depart and land at Islamabad airport.

It is necessary to mention here that no other airlines announced their flight schedule except PIA.

Earlier, Pakistan Airports Authority (PAA) issued a new Notice to Airmen (NOTAM) on Wednesday regarding restoration of airspace over Lahore and Karachi.

Pakistan has reopened its airspace over Lahore and Karachi after announcing a closure last night following a missile attack by neighbouring India.
Earlier the notification was issued for suspension of airspace only for 48 hours. Now the affected airspace is fully operational and ready for usage.

The PAA further advised passengers to contact their relevant airlines. The relevant airlines will take a final decision about available routes for their destinations.

Earlier, authorities in Pakistan have temporarily closed its airspace for 48 hours, suspending all domestic and international flights across all the country's airports including Lahore, Karachi, Faisalabad, Sialkot.

Islamabad International Airport has been shut down for all flight operations, and all inbound and outbound flights were diverted to Karachi Airport. Saudi Airlines flight SV-726, which was scheduled to land in Islamabad, has also been rerouted to Karachi.

Authorities have advised passengers not to come to the airport and to return home. The Civil Aviation Authority stated that normal flight operations will resume once the situation stabilizes.

According to BBC, closure of all airspace regions covering the major cities of Lahore and Karachi was in place.

Several major airports fall into these regions, including Islamabad International Airport. There’s already a significant impact on flights in the region, and several planes have diverted from Pakistan, according to flight tracking provider FlightRadar24.

In a post on social media, the firm showed diversions by Finnair, Emirates, Turkish Cargo and Saudia.

In a statement to CNN, Air France said it had suspended flights over Pakistan until further notice, and was “adapting its flight schedule and flight plans to and from certain destinations”. German carrier Lufthansa has also told Reuters news agency that it was “avoiding Pakistani airspace until further notice”.

Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) has announced the cancellation of all its flights for the next 12 hours, citing operational reasons amid the prevailing security situation.

According to a PIA spokesperson, passengers are advised to remain in contact with PIA call centres for updates regarding their flights.

“The passengers will be informed about the evolving situation in due course,” the spokesperson added.

In light of the current national security situation and in compliance with directives from the Government of Pakistan, Sialkot International Airport has been temporarily closed for all flight operations until further notice.

The airport spokesperson confirmed the suspension and stated that the decision has been taken as a precautionary measure to ensure public safety.

Meanwhile, several Indian airlines have also announced the cancellation of flights to Indian-occupied Kashmir and to some cities in border states such as Rajasthan and Punjab.

SpiceJet said that airports in parts of northern India, including Dharamshala, Leh, Jammu, Srinagar and Amritsar, were closed, which impacted its flights from these locations. IndiGo Airlines posted on X that its flights to and from these cities were impacted because of changing airspace conditions.

Air India said it had cancelled all its flights to and from Jammu, Srinagar, Leh, Jodhpur, Amritsar, Bhuj, Jamnagar, Chandigarh and Rajkot cities till noon local time. The airline also said it had diverted two international flights en route to Amritsar in Punjab state to capital Delhi.

 
1 plane, 3 planes, 5 planes, back to 3 planes, 2 planes, 6 planes..back to 3 planes

Either Pakistanis are high on something and their calculation of planes gets changed every 15 minutes or these Indian Rafales seem to have some out of the world capabilities where they get resurrected when shot down.
 
Losing Rafales would be a huge loss. If it was Mirage or Mig , then those jets crash on their own easily too
 
don't celebrate and don't entertain fools who are sharing video game/ old footages footages to prove their claims. Now like Ghost of Kiev, Ghost of Islamabad will rise too, weaker usually tends to look stronger using propaganda. There will be casualties also, conflicts are not clean but this has not finished yet, so let the dust settle, we have to see the magnitude .
 
Indians seem to use fuel tank excuse for everything

Last week when they bombed their own village it was fuel tank.

Yesterday when planes got shot down it was a fuel tank.

:kp
Cost of living is out of control. Maybe Solar is the way forwards?
 
Only in the echo chambers of extremism can the killing of innocents be mistaken for a cause to celebrate, and tragically, it seems only some in India have chosen that path.

Did you not get the news of Jaish camp been destroyed and 14 close associates of Azhar Masood has been killed?
 
Congratulations to Pakistan for once again demonstrating the moral clarity to condemn the Phalgham attack without hesitation, and for standing firm against aggression that shamelessly targeted civilians. Credit to the Pakistani military for responding with discipline, choosing military targets over political theatrics.

In contrast, the Indian government’s actions, led by RSS ideology, reveal more about their cowardice than their strength.

Once again, the Two Nation Theory didn’t just find relevance, it found vindication.
Congrats bro...win win in the end
 
1 plane, 3 planes, 5 planes, back to 3 planes, 2 planes, 6 planes..back to 3 planes

Either Pakistanis are high on something and their calculation of planes gets changed every 15 minutes or these Indian Rafales seem to have some out of the world capabilities where they get resurrected when shot down.
its 6 planes some news outlets are are not updated
 
1 plane, 3 planes, 5 planes, back to 3 planes, 2 planes, 6 planes..back to 3 planes

Either Pakistanis are high on something and their calculation of planes gets changed every 15 minutes or these Indian Rafales seem to have some out of the world capabilities where they get resurrected when shot down.

They are making silly excuses which is very funny to see. Atleast posters here are balanced and educated, check twitter. It is full of propaganda about how many Indian jets down. India didnt even used many jets this time nor crossed the border like 2019. Most of the attacks were by missiles like Iran did to Pakistan last year.
 
So War Hysteric Shri Rajnath G and Pradhan Mantri Modi G wanted revenge for Falze Felag Operation and after meticulous planning for 2 weeks and making owl of whole nation in the name of mocking drills , they in the language of Arnab's Narathon Attacked Pakistan with Brahmos and all that Wargaming and ended up losing 3 x Rafaels and other crafts only to downcast the repute of French aviators and megatronics.
 
Because they were civilian sites.

In combat, the results are astonishingly embarrassing for India.

Yup.

What India did was cowardly. No doubt.

As a matter of fact, I consider Indian attack on Pakistani civilians a terror attack.
 
its 6 planes some news outlets are are not updated
Forgive me for my doubts over it but we have been shown pictures of Ukraine war, 2024 Sukhoi crash, a damn drop tank etc since morning. All claiming to be Indian jets.

Its hard to believe that Pakistan has managed to down even 1 plane let alone 6 planes with no proof. Just because they claimed.
 
They are making silly excuses which is very funny to see. Atleast posters here are balanced and educated, check twitter. It is full of propaganda about how many Indian jets down. India didnt even used many jets this time nor crossed the border like 2019. Most of the attacks were by missiles like Iran did to Pakistan last year.
Biggest delusion is the Indian line of 0 planes - despite videos of crashes and local reports :ROFLMAO:
 
Reuters, NYT are all reporting that planes have been shot down. At least 2-3 according to most international media. The question remains what kind of planes were they and how many exactly.

The most telling was the on-record admission from IAF - "All pilots who took part in the mission were accounted for". This is worded to avoid saying no planes had crashed. Pilots are usually able to eject themselves even if hit.
 
Forgive me for my doubts over it but we have been shown pictures of Ukraine war, 2024 Sukhoi crash, a damn drop tank etc since morning. All claiming to be Indian jets.

Its hard to believe that Pakistan has managed to down even 1 plane let alone 6 planes with no proof. Just because they claimed.
better to stick to Pakistani official channels rather than tiwtter/X reports
 
Biggest delusion is the Indian line of 0 planes - despite videos of crashes and local reports :ROFLMAO:
Old videos of Ukraine war, 2024 sukhoi crash etc. Those are already debunked. Only bathinda one seems authentic but its still unclear which plane was it.
 
Reuters, NYT are all reporting that planes have been shot down. At least 2-3 according to most international media. The question remains what kind of planes were they and how many exactly.

The most telling was the on-record admission from IAF - "All pilots who took part in the mission were accounted for". This is worded to avoid saying no planes had crashed. Pilots are usually able to eject themselves even if hit.
rafale shares have dropped too
 
Old videos of Ukraine war, 2024 sukhoi crash etc. Those are already debunked. Only bathinda one seems authentic but its still unclear which plane was it.
So you have very slowly accepted one.

The rest will sink in soon too.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Video filmed in Indian-administered Kashmir captured loud explosions and smoke around the town of Poonch near the Line of Control as Pakistan promised a “robust response” to a series of Indian air attacks. <a href="https://t.co/VWZ88erA67">pic.twitter.com/VWZ88erA67</a></p>&mdash; Al Jazeera English (@AJEnglish) <a href=" ">May 7, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Standard LOC firing. Happening on both sides.
 
Guys why does our defence minister want deescalation ?

Who voted for this khwaja as defence minister ?

India has struck the neelum dam
To show international forums that we are still ready to negotiate and talk.

But the decision on national security is not taken by defence minister. It is taken by NSC and they have given a green light to a retaliation attack.

Alot of useless posts have been made in this thread with both sides posting unverrified news and jumping up and down on propaganda.

No fact base or interesting info has been shared here.
 
India always behave like Eddie Guererro. Lie, cheat, and steal. :inti

They always have to gang up to win physical fights; not capable of fighting one-on-one. Even in warfare, they have to resort to attacking civilians and trees. They don't seem courageous enough to fight conventionally.

I think it is a combination of vegetarian diet and genetics. :inti
 
It would actually be better for GoI to admit the planes crashed (even if they dont admit they were shot down). A bit embarrassing (especially if Rafale jets went down) but it gives both sides an off ramp to de-escalate the situation.

Both India and pakistan can sell the scalps to their domestic audience and people can move on. the border is too long to secure against long range missile attacks. both sides can do a lot of damage and it has potential for escalation
 
India always have to behave like Eddie Guererro. Lie, cheat, and steal. :inti

They always have to gang up to win physical fights; not capable of fighting one-on-one. Even in warfare, they have to resort to attacking civilians and trees. They don't seem courageous enough to fight conventionally.

I think it is a combination of vegetarian diet and genetics. :inti
India cheating kar rahaa hai dubai me khel ke
 
Biggest delusion is the Indian line of 0 planes - despite videos of crashes and local reports :ROFLMAO:
Tell me something, how can planes crash down in a missile attack?

India targeted Pakistan using missiles from Indian soil. They never cross LOC with jets like they have done in 2019 when 1 Indian jet was brought down and Abhinandan was captured as prisoner of war. So how exactly did Pakistan brought down Indian rafael jets? Did they cross the LOC and brought them down?

Thora dimaag lagao dost....you are educated person. If @emranabbas is saying this, I would agree with him in a heartbeat but you can at least think, right?

Most of the downed jets etc is from old videos circulated and has been debunked.


 
Bu the way, I thought Pakistanis would be furious over the fact that India chose to violet the international border and dropped bombs inside their territory, instead entire discussion seem to be on planes lol, they seem to be happy with downing of 0/1/2/3/5/6 (whatever numbers they claim) planes.
 
no its 6

I know its upsetting and hard to admit to it but its ok

They demanded a reputable and neutral source,now that one has spoken, they choose disbelief.

Outside of Indian media spin and military silence, no credible voice has denied that Indian aircraft met the ground faster than they intended

Truth, it seems, is only acceptable when it comes with a tricolor filter.

You don’t need to convince Indian, today, everyone except Indians are reading Reuters and NYT.

Let them enjoy their hatred.
 
Tell me something, how can planes crash down in a missile attack?

India targeted Pakistan using missiles from Indian soil. They never cross LOC with jets like they have done in 2019 when 1 Indian jet was brought down and Abhinandan was captured as prisoner of war. So how exactly did Pakistan brought down Indian rafael jets? Did they cross the LOC and brought them down?

Thora dimaag lagao dost....you are educated person. If @emranabbas is saying this, I would agree with him in a heartbeat but you can at least think, right?

Most of the downed jets etc is from old videos circulated and has been debunked.


there is videos of crash site in Indian occupied Punjab and site in Poonch too

Debunk them brother and I will take your side.
 
It would actually be better for GoI to admit the planes crashed (even if they dont admit they were shot down). A bit embarrassing (especially if Rafale jets went down) but it gives both sides an off ramp to de-escalate the situation.

Both India and pakistan can sell the scalps to their domestic audience and people can move on. the border is too long to secure against long range missile attacks. both sides can do a lot of damage and it has potential for escalation

But then what will Gaurav Arya , Arnab & Gen Bakshi do they are claiming it as biggest victory
 
For the umpteenth time it’s the New York Times - they are are quoting Indian security officials.

It’s embarrassing for India so their media don’t want to admit their loses but New York Times is quoting your officials, not Pakistani ones.

Accept and move on
 
Pak National Assembly confirms downing Indian Planes and that retaliation will be brutal and devastating
 
But then what will Gaurav Arya , Arnab & Gen Bakshi do they are claiming it as biggest victory

Propogandists can always spin a victory. The strikes were much more expansive than the last time. So that's enough for them to claim victory on air
 
They demanded a reputable and neutral source,now that one has spoken, they choose disbelief.

Outside of Indian media spin and military silence, no credible voice has denied that Indian aircraft met the ground faster than they intended

Truth, it seems, is only acceptable when it comes with a tricolor filter.

You don’t need to convince Indian, today, everyone except Indians are reading Reuters and NYT.

Let them enjoy their hatred.
India has gone silent you can sense something has gone on behind the scenes
 
Why are some of the Indian posters acting like their planes can't be downed? Strange people.

This is not Bollywood. This is real life. You can suffer losses. :inti
 
It would actually be better for GoI to admit the planes crashed (even if they dont admit they were shot down). A bit embarrassing (especially if Rafale jets went down) but it gives both sides an off ramp to de-escalate the situation.

Both India and pakistan can sell the scalps to their domestic audience and people can move on.
Naah, Pak have already convinced their population of that.

And they are already off-ramping.

The fact that the attacks were on terror camps instead of military gave Pak an out.

And Pakistan's lies about civilians is immediately caught out cause the terrorists themselves have come out admitting losses. And they are carrying out the funerals live lol.

Pak can choose to escalate if they wish but they should come to terms with the fact that they are not "sem2sem" with India.

India is the 4th largest economy in the world (soon to be 3rd), Pak is in the mid 40s behind Romania, Colombia, Philippines etc.

Before the Asia Cup 2023 Pakistan thought they were "sem2sem" with India and then got many reality checks over the next two years.

This isn't 1998 where the "international community" aka "one of the big boys" will help them out. India is one of the "big boys" now and becoming bigger.

Any attempt to escalate will mean attacks on Pakistani military infrastructure and the Indian navy will come into play (huge difference with Pak navy). Pakistan's entire economic corridor is just a few kms off the border and India have shown how it can just hit those spots repeatedly.

USA, Saudi etc have already called Pak and told them to shut up and fool their awaam with the Rafale story.
 
Tell me something, how can planes crash down in a missile attack?

India targeted Pakistan using missiles from Indian soil. They never cross LOC with jets like they have done in 2019 when 1 Indian jet was brought down and Abhinandan was captured as prisoner of war. So how exactly did Pakistan brought down Indian rafael jets? Did they cross the LOC and brought them down?

Thora dimaag lagao dost....you are educated person. If @emranabbas is saying this, I would agree with him in a heartbeat but you can at least think, right?

Most of the downed jets etc is from old videos circulated and has been debunked.
This is coming from someone who relies on twitter for news
 
I think Pakistan should do their attacks in Indian cities instead of IOK. Attacking IOK means Kashmiris suffer.

India targeted Pakistani cities too. So, if Pakistan do it, it wouldn't be unfair.
Yeah except this time Indians will not be restrained and attack military, economic establishments with their full force.

Pak's delusion that they are "sem2sem" with India should stop.
 
Until a reputable non Pakistani media outlet confirms that Pakistan have retaliated I won't believe it.

Therefore I am really disappointed thus far
 
The news is real. You have accepted the one in indian occupied punjab.

Can you comment on what is happening here in Pampore?


Please dont ignore I will appreciate your detailed analysis.
Bhai pehle ek number decide kar lo.

Madhuri Dixit ke song ki tarah 1-2-3-4 laga rakha hai tumlogo ne🤣
 
For the umpteenth time it’s the New York Times - they are are quoting Indian security officials.

It’s embarrassing for India so their media don’t want to admit their loses but New York Times is quoting your officials, not Pakistani ones.

Accept and move on
I'm asking when did India officially admit it, not when New York Times reported it. When did New York Times name those Indians who admitted it?
 
So its come down to 2 from 6 now?

Is that final number from you guys?
There are multiple. You keep asking for evidence we have given you the videos from two sources but you will rather bury your head in the sand.

I
 
Planes can be targeted by missiles too both from ground and air - all you need is the range.
India attacked Pakistan using missiles from Indian soil...which part of it you are not understanding?

Indian Rafael's never crossed LOC to brought them down.

Are you saying Indian jets were flying in Poonch and Pakistan army brought them down using missiles? If that was the case, how come their army is not taking any credit of it neither anyone is talking about it?

All are jumping like kids - we have brought down 1 planes, 2 planes, 6 planes etc. in an attack where planes were not even used and missiles were fired.
 
Bhai pehle ek number decide kar lo.

Madhuri Dixit ke song ki tarah 1-2-3-4 laga rakha hai tumlogo ne🤣
Brother you are adamant on 0. I will move your needle slowly step by step.

Have you moved from 0 to accept two yet?
 
Tell me something, how can planes crash down in a missile attack?

India targeted Pakistan using missiles from Indian soil. They never cross LOC with jets like they have done in 2019 when 1 Indian jet was brought down and Abhinandan was captured as prisoner of war. So how exactly did Pakistan brought down Indian rafael jets? Did they cross the LOC and brought them down?

Thora dimaag lagao dost....you are educated person. If @emranabbas is saying this, I would agree with him in a heartbeat but you can at least think, right?

Most of the downed jets etc is from old videos circulated and has been debunked.


The pakistani jfs are using pl missiles which they got from India but was unknown. These missiles have a longer range compared to what rafale have fitted in.

 
Pakistan media - fake
International media - fake
Their own media - fake
Their own govt sources - fake

Sometimes i feel pitty at Indians, lol. But in the end we all believe the narras which suits us best, kek so i dont blame them.. Last time same happened but ...

After a month, everyone will forget it and move on. Thats been happening since decades.
 
To show international forums that we are still ready to negotiate and talk.

But the decision on national security is not taken by defence minister. It is taken by NSC and they have given a green light to a retaliation attack.

Alot of useless posts have been made in this thread with both sides posting unverrified news and jumping up and down on propaganda.

No fact base or interesting info has been shared here.

It's just not this bumbling khwaja

That crook sanaullah is echoing similar statements that pakistan has already responded .
How have we responded to attack on mosques and civilian deaths they've gone deep into pakistan and deep into azad kashmir and struck these attacks aren't near the borders.

Sanaullah is saying pakistan won't retaliate.
 
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