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oatmeal said:
Propogandists can always spin a victory. The strikes were much more expansive than the last time. So that's enough for them to claim victory on air
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Yeh i agree on that, last time some trees and a crow. This time innocent civilians so yeah congrats bud :) hope youll have a good sleep from now on and celebrate your victory..
 
https://twitter.com/x/status/1920029375006670857
Last post for Indians in here who can’t digest on their nations lost assets

It’s solid sources that India did lose 3 planes minimum that was presented to even their most respectable paper but they deleted it because of backlash from their lunatic supporters who couldn’t take it.
As Joshi says the reasoning is absurd but in any case NYT has confirmed it.
 
Rajdeep said:
India attacked Pakistan using missiles from Indian soil...which part of it you are not understanding?

Indian Rafael's never crossed LOC to brought them down.

Are you saying Indian jets were flying in Poonch and Pakistan army brought them down using missiles? If that was the case, how come their army is not taking any credit of it neither anyone is talking about it?

All are jumping like kids - we have brought down 1 planes, 2 planes, 6 planes etc. in an attack where planes were not even used and missiles were fired.
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You are making zero sense here. As long as the planes are in range they can be targeted . Its not like the LoC is some magic barrier which stops missiles flying through. It was either launched from air or ground but the missiles were launched from PoK side. Both Pakistan and Indian air force didnt cross the LoC
 
You don’t provide them with any evidence because none of ya’ll need to. Today, y’all here yo talk to Pakistani and share news with Pakistanis.
 
And all we have is knocked 5 planes which are unverified.

2 are confirmed down but even then there is no confirmation what bought them down indian incompetency which is a trademark when it comes to their airforce or whether it was genuine hostile fire .
 
Major said:
The pakistani jfs are using pl missiles which they got from India but was unknown. These missiles have a longer range compared to what rafale have fitted in.

trt.global

TRT Global - Did Pakistan just use most advanced Chinese missile to shoot down Indian jets?

Just days before, Pakistan’s air force shared pictures of its jets equipped with the PL-15 missiles.
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Are you asking or saying me? If you are suggesting Pakistan also used missiles to brought Indian jets down, which jets were they? Bcoz as far as I know and also the title of this thread, India never used any jets for this attack. They used long distance missiles to attack precision targets in Pakistan by being stationary in one place in Indian soil. It is similar to the tactics Iran used against Pakistan and also Israel last year. Unbelievable how you guys buy these fake news without using your brain.
 
oatmeal said:
You are making zero sense here. As long as the planes are in range they can be targeted . Its not like the LoC is some magic barrier which stops missiles flying through. It was either launched from air or ground but the missiles were launched from PoK side. Both Pakistan and Indian air force didnt cross the LoC
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Which planes? India used missiles and not planes. Are you saying Pakistani missiles brought down Indian missile? Then atleast it would make sense.
 
HalBass9 said:
You don’t provide them with any evidence because none of ya’ll need to. Today, y’all here yo talk to Pakistani and share news with Pakistanis.
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Correct.

Evidences are readily available online. If someone doesn't see it, he is blind, drunk, high, or suffering from retardation. :inti
 
DeadlyVenom said:
There are multiple. You keep asking for evidence we have given you the videos from two sources but you will rather bury your head in the sand.

I
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Remember 2019 when these lot were denying abinandhan incident until whole world saw Kashmiris captured him with bloody nose
 
I think Pakistan should be more worried about teh issue below than war

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35 days’ water left as Khanpur Dam level plummets

Officials say they would have to suspend supply for irrigation purposes besides curtailing drinking water supply to Rawalpindi, Islamabad.
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The surgical strike on Indus Water Treaty is gonn hurt Pakistan more than these missile strikes.especially with India planning to build infrstructure to store more water. with tehe treaty in abeyance india dont need to let pak inspect any new infrastructure. Also they can desilt at any time.
 
pakfan54588 said:
Remember 2019 when these lot were denying abinandhan incident until whole world saw Kashmiris captured him with bloody nose
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So why don't you provide proof this time like last time?

Thing is Pakistanis are smarting cause the burden of proof is on them lol.

Have fun with making theories of fuel tanks and stock markets lol.
 
Rajdeep said:
Which planes? India used missiles and not planes. Are you saying Pakistani missiles brought down Indian missile? Then atleast it would make sense.
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You do know that missiles can be launched from planes too, not just from the ground? I havent seen any definitive reporting on what missiles were used.

Either way the point is moot. There were IAF jets patrolling near the LoC. Even IAF has stated on the record that all pilots who took part in the operation are safe (instead of saying all planes are accounted for)
 
m.shah said:
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86.564 Aufrufe · 869 Reaktionen | From Poonch, J&K. 10 innocent lives lost to Pakistani shelling. It’s the innocent people who are suffering. The civilians, are paying the price of this conflict. Sad! | Salman Nizami

From Poonch, J&K. 10 innocent lives lost to Pakistani shelling. It’s the innocent people who are suffering. The civilians, are paying the price of this conflict. Sad!.
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Don't worry this is LOC firing. Standard. Plenty of losses on that side too although Pak will obviously hide it.
 
pakfan54588 said:
Remember 2019 when these lot were denying abinandhan incident until whole world saw Kashmiris captured him with bloody nose
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2019 was totally different. Why you guys always live in past like 1992 WC me bhi aisa hua tha etc :facepalm:

In 2019 Indian jets crossed LOC, entered Balakot and tried to attack militants hiding there from air. On the way back, Pakistani army intercepted 1 plane and captured 1 prisoner of war.

In 2025, India used long range missiles from its soil for precision targets in Pakistan. Neither any planes were used nor they crossed LOC. So which planes did Pak army brought down and how?

Kuch bhi
 
oatmeal said:
You do know that missiles can be launched from planes too, not just from the ground? I havent seen any definitive reporting on what missiles were used.

Either way the point is moot. There were IAF jets patrolling near the LoC. Even IAF has stated on the record that all pilots who took part in the operation are safe (instead of saying all planes are accounted for)
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Aha so they were IAF patrolling planes...yeh bolo na.

Any proofs of it?

:rabada2
 
saimayubera said:
Don't worry this is LOC firing. Standard. Plenty of losses on that side too although Pak will obviously hide it.
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You are telling a guy who lives in Kashmir don't worry.

He has probably been up all night listening to shelling wondering if his loved ones are ok and if he will have a house.

You are one naughty child.
 
Rajdeep said:
2019 was totally different. Why you guys always live in past like 1992 WC me bhi aisa hua tha etc :facepalm:

In 2019 Indian jets crossed LOC, entered Balakot and tried to attack militants hiding there from air. On the way back, Pakistani army intercepted 1 plane and captured 1 prisoner of war.

In 2025, India used long range missiles from its soil for precision targets in Pakistan. Neither any planes were used nor they crossed LOC. So which planes did Pak army brought down and how?

Kuch bhi
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Bro you are expert what are the two verified crashes in Indian Occupied Punjab and IOk.

You can settle it here by telling us what happened.
 
Rajdeep said:
Are you asking or saying me? If you are suggesting Pakistan also used missiles to brought Indian jets down, which jets were they? Bcoz as far as I know and also the title of this thread, India never used any jets for this attack. They used long distance missiles to attack precision targets in Pakistan by being stationary in one place in Indian soil. It is similar to the tactics Iran used against Pakistan and also Israel last year. Unbelievable how you guys buy these fake news without using your brain.
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Why are you here trying to claim a win for your country?
If what you are claiming is true then, eventually, the truth will out and the same goes for the Pakistani narrative.
For just this one time, I ask the vast majority of Indian posters, to try and not be so insecure.

You blamed Pakistan for the terrorist attack in IOK, failed to present any evidence, got all your news and social media building up a head of steam and then you attacked, killing innocent people... Prior to the attack, we even had one poster defending India's non activity as a 'long game', to destroy Pakistan economically and morally... So the narrative charges with the wind.

Now India has acted, their aggression is an act/declaration of war, so let's see how it all unfolds.
Meanwhile, pray that no more innocent lives are destroyed by this diabolical action has proved a reaction.
 
saimayubera said:
Bangladeshi posters are rabid online but Bangladesh the state won't get involved lol.
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I don't like to generalize, but the most spineless out of all South Asian nations. Least they can do is condemn this act of aggression against their so called ally.
 
Rajdeep said:
2019 was totally different. Why you guys always live in past like 1992 WC me bhi aisa hua tha etc :facepalm:

In 2019 Indian jets crossed LOC, entered Balakot and tried to attack militants hiding there from air. On the way back, Pakistani army intercepted 1 plane and captured 1 prisoner of war.

In 2025, India used long range missiles from its soil for precision targets in Pakistan. Neither any planes were used nor they crossed LOC. So which planes did Pak army brought down and how?

Kuch bhi
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Oh so you agree 2019 skirmish went bad for India ans your plane was shotdown by PAF. Right? Anyways your own signature shows past 3'4yrs. Kek
 
Anyway, there are strong intel reports that an imminent attack is coming from Pakistan either tonight or max by tomorrow. So Pak posters will get enough time to discuss & rejoice and no longer required to rely on fake news. If China is supporting Pakistan, chances of which is unlikely, then it can really hurt India.
 
In morning Pakistanis were saying they down 5 india planes, after some hours they down to 4, in the afternoon there were3 planes down. At present they are at 2 planes down….. fake news at its worst
 
Hikaru said:
I don't like to generalize, but the most spineless out of all South Asian nations. Least they can do is condemn this act of aggression against their so called ally.
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Pak ain't their ally in spite of what online trolls do.

Just like India is not anti Palestine and officially recognizes it despite what online narrative might make you think.

Reality is different from twitter.
 
Rajdeep said:
Aha so they were IAF patrolling planes...yeh bolo na.

Any proofs of it?

:rabada2
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There was reporting by multiple media orgs that IAF said all pilots who took part in the mission are accounted for.

Most reports also says the missiles used were SCALP (or Storm shadow in UK). Those can only be launched by air so likely Rafale jets launched the missiles from this side of the LoC. but this isnt confirmed
 
Rajdeep said:
Anyway, there are strong intel reports that an imminent attack is coming from Pakistan either tonight or max by tomorrow. So Pak posters will get enough time to discuss & rejoice and no longer required to rely on fake news. If China is supporting Pakistan, chances of which is unlikely, then it can really hurt India.
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Yes, more air strikes are coming tonight.
 
Rajdeep said:
Anyway, there are strong intel reports that an imminent attack is coming from Pakistan either tonight or max by tomorrow. So Pak posters will get enough time to discuss & rejoice and no longer required to rely on fake news. If China is supporting Pakistan, chances of which is unlikely, then it can really hurt India.
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Well rejoicing death of innocent lives, i saw this from Indians though, here and as well as other places too. But whatever
 
Maruti Suzuki stocks are higher than Tata Motors.

That's cause a bunch of Nexas defeated a bunch of Altrozs in a race.
 
IMMY69 said:
Why are you here trying to claim a win for your country?
If what you are claiming is true then, eventually, the truth will out and the same goes for the Pakistani narrative.
For just this one time, I ask the vast majority of Indian posters, to try and not be so insecure.

You blamed Pakistan for the terrorist attack in IOK, failed to present any evidence, got all your news and social media building up a head of steam and then you attacked, killing innocent people... Prior to the attack, we even had one poster defending India's non activity as a 'long game', to destroy Pakistan economically and morally... So the narrative charges with the wind.

Now India has acted, their aggression is an act/declaration of war, so let's see how it all unfolds.
Meanwhile, pray that no more innocent lives are destroyed by this diabolical action has proved a reaction.
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No one is claiming any victory bro.

India has acted as it had to do with significant damage in Pakistan post the terrorist attack on Apr 23rd. Now we will all have to wait and see what will be Pakistan's response.

We are just discussing social media trolls using fake stories about Indian jets crashes to save their faces even after been debunked multiple times.

:qdkcheeky
 
Triservices used in attack as per Indian Media.

No planes were used as per Bakhts.

Local Govt. Confirms wreckage of plane , international outlets also verify it.
 
mazkhan said:
It's just not this bumbling khwaja

That crook sanaullah is echoing similar statements that pakistan has already responded .
How have we responded to attack on mosques and civilian deaths they've gone deep into pakistan and deep into azad kashmir and struck these attacks aren't near the borders.

Sanaullah is saying pakistan won't retaliate.
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i think you should research on what NSC is.
 
Rajdeep said:
Are you asking or saying me? If you are suggesting Pakistan also used missiles to brought Indian jets down, which jets were they? Bcoz as far as I know and also the title of this thread, India never used any jets for this attack. They used long distance missiles to attack precision targets in Pakistan by being stationary in one place in Indian soil. It is similar to the tactics Iran used against Pakistan and also Israel last year. Unbelievable how you guys buy these fake news without using your brain.
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i shared you an article, if you were interested you would had read it.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
There are multiple. You keep asking for evidence we have given you the videos from two sources but you will rather bury your head in the sand.

I
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Thanks to Pakistanis themselves. They have changed their tune numerous times since morning
 
mazkhan said:
And all we have is knocked 5 planes which are unverified.

2 are confirmed down but even then there is no confirmation what bought them down indian incompetency which is a trademark when it comes to their airforce or whether it was genuine hostile fire .
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I would say 3 aircraft have gone down on the Indian side as confirmed because it’s well respected western outlets saying this such as Reuters and NYT.
The only question is the cause - the Indian quoted officials have only admitted “they crashed” but not the reasoning.

My opinion it’s highly likely they were shot down because what are the chances of 3 Indian multimillion pound airforce planes crashing nearly at the same time due to either pilot incompetence or technical malfunction ?

The chances are zero for that reasoning. It’s possible 1 but not 3 so highly likely Pak can take credit for this but yeah just calculated speculation on this from my side regarding the causes.
 
Rajdeep said:
Will he take West and US permission? He admitted in Sky news that Pakistan has been doing dirty work for west by supporting terrorism for last 30 years. Not sure if USA will allow him to conduct this terrorist act on Indian soil.
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He won’t be taking any permission from Modi where Pakistan strikes that’s for sure.
 
The only data point needed is a denial from the GoI twitter account. The fact there is none is a clear indication some planes crashed yesterday.

the PIB is fact checking fake videos posted by twitter users but cosplayer OSINT accounts on there always use video game and old war footage to gain clout during a clash. Its unrelated to whether the incident actually happened.
 
oatmeal said:
The only data point needed is a denial from the GoI twitter account. The fact there is none is a clear indication some planes crashed yesterday.

the PIB is fact checking fake videos posted by twitter users but cosplayer OSINT accounts on there always use video game and old war footage to gain clout during a clash. Its unrelated to whether the incident actually happened.
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Naah, burden of proof is on accuser like the downed F-16 and Balakot casualties in 2019.

Until then claim your 1-2-3-4-5-6-10-100 whatever
 
Rajdeep said:
No one is claiming any victory bro.

India has acted as it had to do with significant damage in Pakistan post the terrorist attack on Apr 23rd. Now we will all have to wait and see what will be Pakistan's response.

We are just discussing social media trolls using fake stories about Indian jets crashes to save their faces even after been debunked multiple times.

:qdkcheeky
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Well with respect to the planes, like I said time will tell.
However, as to the the terrorist attack in IOK, so far I have seen no evidence whatsoever that links this to Pakistan.

I think India's pride was badly hurt. They were lauding the harmony in IOK and took their eyes off the ball.
There are plenty of Kashmiri Freedom Fighters within IOK and the guns/fire arms are hardly specialist weaponry equipment that can only be provided by a Government or Terrorist Organisation sitting outside of the country.
Nor did the insurgents require any specialist intel... So there is every likelihood that this was done by a lone group within IOK itself.
 
Also brother @DeadlyVenom I don't care how many jets were downed. 0 or 6. I found this entire discussion amusing thats why butted in.

I thought Pakistanis would have been furious over the fact that India violated their territory and they would be focused on why and how and what not. But entire discussion is revolving around planes. Don't you think, its win for Modi and co if he managed to shift the focus from bombing to the damn planes.
 
India killed 26 Pakistani civilians. As far as I am concerned, India has done terrorism on Pakistani soil.

Will Indian posters condemn the terror attack done by Indian military?

:inti
 
saimayubera said:
Turkish prop account.
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New York Times, the economist and Reuters are also propped up Pakistani propaganda outlets right now?? 😹

This is absolutely hilarious, you can’t digest anything. You only want to hear what the Modi government and his paid media stooges give the information on what like to hear which is that Pakistan was hit hard and in response nothing happened on the Indian side.

Too bad no one else in the world is going to buy it but enjoy your echo chamber I guess 🤭
 
Buzzinga said:
Also brother @DeadlyVenom I don't care how many jets were downed. 0 or 6. I found this entire discussion amusing thats why butted in.

I thought Pakistanis would have been furious over the fact that India violated their territory and they would be focused on why and how and what not. But entire discussion is revolving around planes. Don't you think, its win for Modi and co if he managed to shift the focus from bombing to the damn planes.
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Had Pak not responded then Pak would have been furious.
 
90MPH said:
New York Times, the economist and Reuters are also propped up Pakistani propaganda outlets right now?? 😹

This is absolutely hilarious, you can’t digest anything. You only want to hear what the Modi government and his paid media stooges give the information on what like to hear which is that Pakistan was hit hard and in response nothing happened on the Indian side.

Too bad no one else in the world is going to buy it but enjoy your echo chamber I guess 🤭
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You do not need to reply to them, let them be. The world is reading Reuters and NYT. Indians are reading Indian whatever it is.
 
sweep_shot said:
India killed 26 Pakistani civilians. As far as I am concerned, India has done terrorism on Pakistani soil.

Will Indian posters condemn the terror attack done by Indian military?

:inti
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I'll ask you again, has Bangladesh condemned the attack? If not, why?
 
What Indians may or may not believe should not be Pakistanis concern on any forum. Let them be.
 
90MPH said:
New York Times, the economist and Reuters are also propped up Pakistani propaganda outlets right now?? 😹

This is absolutely hilarious, you can’t digest anything. You only want to hear what the Modi government and his paid media stooges give the information on what like to hear which is that Pakistan was hit hard and in response nothing happened on the Indian side.

Too bad no one else in the world is going to buy it but enjoy your echo chamber I guess 🤭
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Show me one source which says that Pakistan has DEFINITELY taken down 3 planes.

Even they are saying - Pakistan claims or might according to random grainy twitter footage or fuel tanks.

Why not show video evidence?
 
emranabbas said:
Indians will say this is from soviet war in the 80's and found in 2025

You debunked 👉
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Lol Turkish account with a Pak source and Pak feeling happy

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This is the same as Pak self declaring themselves as the best fast bowling attack in the world.
 
It was a MiG-29 and usko local kabaadi ne bhi lene se manha Kar diya thhaa


This is is my stand and i am sticking to it
 
IMMY69 said:
Well with respect to the planes, like I said time will tell.
However, as to the the terrorist attack in IOK, so far I have seen no evidence whatsoever that links this to Pakistan.

I think India's pride was badly hurt. They were lauding the harmony in IOK and took their eyes off the ball.
There are plenty of Kashmiri Freedom Fighters within IOK and the guns/fire arms are hardly specialist weaponry equipment that can only be provided by a Government or Terrorist Organisation sitting outside of the country.
Nor did the insurgents require any specialist intel... So there is every likelihood that this was done by a lone group within IOK itself.
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Well, terrorism in Kashmir will not be done by Italians, isn't it? It is no secret that Pakistan supports secessionist movement in Kashmir by providing arms to its mujahedeen's. They are doing the same in their western border which your defence minister himself accepted in live TV. Pakistan has been doing terrorist attacks in India since mid 90s after they realized that they can't take over Kashmir by conventional military wars. No one has forgotten Kandahar plane hijack, Indian parliament attack, 26/11, Uri, Pathankot, Pulwama and now Pahalgam. Enough evidence and proofs were given especially after 26/11 Mumbai attacks which killed 166 innocent people. The govt in India back then was meek and thought providing dossiers after dossiers will ensure Pakistan will act on its terrorists. However, even after Pakistan admitting 26/11 was done from its soil, terrorists like Hafeez Saeed & Masood Azhar is still kicking in Pakistan. This present govt is not meek....it is like local dada (no pun intended). They know giving proofs will lead to nothing and will fall in deaf ears. So the tactics now is, you hit us and we will hit you back. You hit us in Pulwama and we will strike Balakot. You do 23 Apr and we will do 7th May.
 
Bhaijaan said:
It was a MiG-29 and usko local kabaadi ne bhi lene se manha Kar diya thhaa


This is is my stand and i am sticking to it
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Mig-21s. Instead of putting them in the museum, just used them for one last mission.

Brave F-16s got them again but could not catch the pilots.

No tea for them. So sad.
 
HalBass9 said:
What Indians may or may not believe should not be Pakistanis concern on any forum. Let them be.
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Yes. It is a futile exercise to engage with them.

You can give them verifiable proofs/facts. They just give haha emojis and derail.
 
saimayubera said:
Naah, burden of proof is on accuser like the downed F-16 and Balakot casualties in 2019.

Until then claim your 1-2-3-4-5-6-10-100 whatever
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Why do you think Pakistanis on a Pakistani forum will go with your narrative when we hav our own sources. Are you stupid or acting stupid
 
emranabbas said:
Why do you think Pakistanis on a Pakistani forum will go with your narrative when we hav our own sources. Are you stupid or acting stupid
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You need to cut down the budget of your sources man. They are seriously screwing this one .
 
saimayubera said:
Mig-21s. Instead of putting them in the museum, just used them for one last mission.

Brave F-16s got them again but could not catch the pilots.

No tea for them. So sad.
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It’s embarrassing for PAF if they let good old MiGs screw ‘em like that on a last hurrah
 
Buzzinga said:
You need to cut down the budget of your sources man. They are seriously screwing this one .
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That is none of your concern

Main thing is India got humiliated this time round and now hiding face

Where's the josh? your media was very active when india attacked and gone phuss when Pakistan retaliated. Nowhere to seen now
 
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