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Pakistan and the most overrated bowling unit

Pakistan needed Amir (if fully fit) and Imad in the side. These guys have the experience of performing in tournaments as well as possessing the mentality and bowling intelligence to get wickets or at the very least stem the run flow.
 
Its there for everyone to see. Shaheen does not know the rules of LBW it seems. I am convinced.
Some of the stuff he appeals for is embarrassing.

The LBW shout today which was a pathetic referral, my wife even said what's he shouting about now. The problem Babar has is when he does not refer Shaheen throws his toys out the pram and starts dishing up pies.

Rizwan on the other hand is a weird one. Its very suspect the way they seem to throw Babar under the bus.

Just as reference, I dont rate Babar as a captain but sometimes you need your senior team mates.

Rauf looks like he has not slept for weeks..... make of that what you will

Hasan is alrite to be honest

Usama Mir is a short format specialist - 100 T20 etc just like Shadab.

Nawaz is just a passenger

M Wasim Jnr and Zaman Khan would be butchered on these pitches

Abrar is just the bowling version of Imam - ok thats harsh but i'd wait till after the world cup before we ruin him. I mean he got slammed in a test match I'm scared to think what would happen here.
 
Its there for everyone to see. Shaheen does not know the rules of LBW it seems. I am convinced.
Some of the stuff he appeals for is embarrassing.

The LBW shout today which was a pathetic referral, my wife even said what's he shouting about now. The problem Babar has is when he does not refer Shaheen throws his toys out the pram and starts dishing up pies.


Rizwan on the other hand is a weird one. Its very suspect the way they seem to throw Babar under the bus.

Just as reference, I dont rate Babar as a captain but sometimes you need your senior team mates.

Rauf looks like he has not slept for weeks..... make of that what you will

Hasan is alrite to be honest

Usama Mir is a short format specialist - 100 T20 etc just like Shadab.

Nawaz is just a passenger

M Wasim Jnr and Zaman Khan would be butchered on these pitches

Abrar is just the bowling version of Imam - ok thats harsh but i'd wait till after the world cup before we ruin him. I mean he got slammed in a test match I'm scared to think what would happen here.
That is so true. Every time he and Riz appeals, i am laughing. my peak was at best a passable club cricketer, and i see it 8/10 times they get it wrong when they appeal. what's with that? I understand Shaheen is young and excitable, why is Riz so bad?
 
That is so true. Every time he and Riz appeals, i am laughing. my peak was at best a passable club cricketer, and i see it 8/10 times they get it wrong when they appeal. what's with that? I understand Shaheen is young and excitable, why is Riz so bad?

Pathan Brotherhood?
 
Pakistan needed Amir (if fully fit) and Imad in the side. These guys have the experience of performing in tournaments as well as possessing the mentality and bowling intelligence to get wickets or at the very least stem the run flow.
Especially Imad could have been vital here. Anyways would have, could have. These are only talks now.
 
Well there is some hope for attack as Naseem Ihsan Hasnain are unfit but the spin stocks are completely diminished. Similarly Hassan Ali and Haris should never play 50 over format again another lesson for PCB stop arranging bilateral with minnows, Pakistan have become a minnow
 
So far among 10 countries that play world cup

8th in terms of average
8th in terms of Economy
6th in terms of strike rate
 
Looks like PCT has still not recovered from the loss of Malik and Hafeez. There are no quality spinners and apart from Shaheen the other pacers are T20 specialists not suited to ODIs. One of the worst bowling lineups in WC. Usually their bowling unit has delivered and its the batting that lets them down.
 
Said it pre the World Cup that the bowling is crap, Bhatti and Anwar Ali would be better
 
This Naseem drama will also end in tears. He will make zero difference and he will also be a gone case in a couple of years like that street cricketer Rauf.

As usual, the player who is not playing is the solution. If Naseem was playing and Shaheen/Rauf weren't, then their absence would have been blames for the humiliation.

Naseem Shah is mediocre who has no idea how to take wickets. You can throw chappal at me now but you know that I will have the last laugh as usual.
 
This Naseem drama will also end in tears. He will make zero difference and he will also be a gone case in a couple of years like that street cricketer Rauf.

As usual, the player who is not playing is the solution. If Naseem was playing and Shaheen/Rauf weren't, then their absence would have been blames for the humiliation.

Naseem Shah is mediocre who has no idea how to take wickets. You can throw chappal at me now but you know that I will have the last laugh as usual.

Naseem with an average of 16 with the ball and 21 sr is mediocre but imam with an average of 50 or whatever is the second coming of Anwar.

Alrighty.
 
Naseem with an average of 16 with the ball and 21 sr is mediocre but imam with an average of 50 or whatever is the second coming of Anwar.

Alrighty.
Imam is a good opener for our standards and Naseem is a good bowler for our standards.

Neither can hold a candle to the best other teams have to offer.

I would ridicule anyone who starts comparing Imam with Rohit or Warner or de Kock just like I ridicule anyone who compares Naseem with the best fast bowlers in the world because he doesn’t compare.

But Imam is better than Sharjeel and you need to accept that once and for all.
 
Pakistan's ODI bowlers since 2020 against SENA +Ind + WI + SL (min 10 wickets)

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[tr][td]Player [/td][td]Span [/td][td]Mat [/td][td]Wkts [/td][td]Ave [/td][td]Econ [/td][td]SR [/td][td]4W [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Naseem Shah [/td][td]2023-2023 [/td][td]7 [/td][td]16 [/td][td]20.25 [/td][td]4.97 [/td][td]24.4 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Shaheen Shah Afridi [/td][td]2021-2023 [/td][td]20 [/td][td]40 [/td][td]25.6 [/td][td]5.9 [/td][td]26 [/td][td]2 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mohammad Wasim [/td][td]2022-2023 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]18 [/td][td]26.27 [/td][td]5.57 [/td][td]28.2 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Haris Rauf [/td][td]2021-2023 [/td][td]23 [/td][td]40 [/td][td]30.17 [/td][td]6.27 [/td][td]28.8 [/td][td]3 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Usama Mir [/td][td]2023-2023 [/td][td]7 [/td][td]11 [/td][td]35.36 [/td][td]5.8 [/td][td]36.5 [/td][td]1 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mohammad Nawaz [/td][td]2021-2023 [/td][td]15 [/td][td]17 [/td][td]38.41 [/td][td]5.15 [/td][td]44.7 [/td][td]2 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Hasan Ali [/td][td]2021-2023 [/td][td]10 [/td][td]14 [/td][td]38.85 [/td][td]6.82 [/td][td]34.1 [/td][td]1 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Shadab Khan [/td][td]2021-2023 [/td][td]16 [/td][td]16 [/td][td]50.87 [/td][td]5.94 [/td][td]51.3 [/td][td]1 [/td][/tr]
[/table]
 
Pakistan were so used to the Naseem and Shaheen partnership that it covered the flaws in our bowling attack. We simply didn't have a plan B once Naseem was injured.

Shaheen is half the bowler without Naseem bowling at the other end
 
In the long term, when you select players without a solid background in domestic cricket, this is the kind of outcome you can expect. Players like Shaheen, Naseem, Haris, and Wasim Jr. were chosen without the necessary experience in domestic cricket. The selection of Haris Rauf was primarily based on his speed and T20 performances, which now seems quite amusing. While these players may provide moments of brilliance, they may not be the ones to lead your team to victory in tournaments
 
This Naseem drama will also end in tears. He will make zero difference and he will also be a gone case in a couple of years like that street cricketer Rauf.

As usual, the player who is not playing is the solution. If Naseem was playing and Shaheen/Rauf weren't, then their absence would have been blames for the humiliation.

Naseem Shah is mediocre who has no idea how to take wickets. You can throw chappal at me now but you know that I will have the last laugh as usual.
Yes in some ways Naseem is lucky that he missed this world cup. His fitness is circumspect and would have broken down anyways
 
Pakistan's ODI bowlers since 2020 against SENA +Ind + WI + SL (min 10 wickets)

Player Span Mat Wkts Ave Econ SR 4W
Naseem Shah 2023-2023 7 16 20.25 4.97 24.4 0
Shaheen Shah Afridi 2021-2023 20 40 25.6 5.9 26 2
Mohammad Wasim 2022-2023 12 18 26.27 5.57 28.2 0
Haris Rauf 2021-2023 23 40 30.17 6.27 28.8 3
Usama Mir 2023-2023 7 11 35.36 5.8 36.5 1
Mohammad Nawaz 2021-2023 15 17 38.41 5.15 44.7 2
Hasan Ali 2021-2023 10 14 38.85 6.82 34.1 1
Shadab Khan 2021-2023 16 16 50.87 5.94 51.3 1
Impressive record by vice captain 🔥
 
Wasim Akram said no fitness test have happened for Pak team since last 2 years… OMG… Is it true?
And there we go.

Even with naseem it will be make no difference. If anything he got saved from being scarred.

I never thought of our attack to be the best. Top 4 with naseem but now even that is questionable.

India used to be a laughing stock in the past prior to 2003 ish. Look how they turned it around. We have gone backwards. Regressed in the one department we used to excel in. It's a travesty. Total incompetence. Absolutely mismanagement of our resources. Shame on pcb.

This is a stain on our history. One of the worst performances I have ever witnessed by us recently.

In saying that teams chasing seem to have an advantage? Not always but it seems to be a little trend?

Just like t20 world cup when we chased. If we batted first we would have probably lost that too.
 
This Naseem drama will also end in tears. He will make zero difference and he will also be a gone case in a couple of years like that street cricketer Rauf.

As usual, the player who is not playing is the solution. If Naseem was playing and Shaheen/Rauf weren't, then their absence would have been blames for the humiliation.

Naseem Shah is mediocre who has no idea how to take wickets. You can throw chappal at me now but you know that I will have the last laugh as usual.
Best attacks were always
Sa india and then Australia. We were at best 4th with naseem but even that is questionable. Nz seem to have a better attack. We will find our very soon when we vs them.

England without Archer are rubbish.
 
Say whatever you want, but Hasan Ali has been the best Pak bowler in this WC. Dont let Shaheen's cheap five for cloud your judgement. Maybe slim pickings, but Hasan is the only bowler with Plan B. Whether it worked or not is another question.
 
Say whatever you want, but Hasan Ali has been the best Pak bowler in this WC. Dont let Shaheen's cheap five for cloud your judgement. Maybe slim pickings, but Hasan is the only bowler with Plan B. Whether it worked or not is another question.
He has but we should look past him. Our reserves have only 2 talented players but it seems like they are just t20 specialists
 
Pakistan were so used to the Naseem and Shaheen partnership that it covered the flaws in our bowling attack. We simply didn't have a plan B once Naseem was injured.

Shaheen is half the bowler without Naseem bowling at the other end
Pakistan conceded 350 plus against India in Colombo with Naseem & Shaheen !
 
It was quite a strong fast bowling unit before Asia cup. Shaheen has been carrying an injury, Naseem injured and Haris is a hit or a miss, even Mark Wood is going for plenty on rubbish flat tracks of India so it happens.

Our terrible spinners are the main culprits, how Pakistan was carrying the likes of Shadab and Nawaz for so long is beyond belief, they were terrible or absolute average even before coming into world cup. Atleast our pacers were performing
 
Shaheen continues with fluke wickets. He’s been taking some since the India game

Harris Rauf has been torn apart

Hassan Ali is doing extremely well to hang on until now, but soon the behemoths of England and South Africa will dig into him as well.
 
Pakistan conceded 350 plus against India in Colombo with Naseem & Shaheen !

That was more of a joke of a game with constant stops and starts over 2 days. And conceding 300+ even with a good attack in ODIs isnt uncommon on odd days. Overall fit Shaheen and Naseem was a deadly combo that was working well for Pakistan, was able to hide average spinners when we were getting good 20 overs from Shaheen and Naseem. Once Naseem returns and Shaheen is fully fit, Pakistani pace attack should be back on track. What's worrisome is nonexistence bench strength which Pakistan need to address
 
what baffles me is that how can a guy like zaman khan is selected instead of dahani how has a much better record than him and wasim jr

zaman has a tremendous list-a record of 6 matches in which he averages around 60 while dahani has a alot more matches and average which is around 25 or 24

they chose these braindead bowlers with no experience and the world is laughing at us.

the best spin bowler (zafar iqbal) is not even playing fc of pakistan nowadays because these clowns ignored him for too many years and kept playing nothing players who could score 5 6 runs but have no idea of how to bowl as a spinner
 
the moment when Pakistan played these 2 fraud leggies in the playing 11 i knew this is not gonna end good.

anyone with a brain can tell these 2 guys can't land 6 balls on the same spot for 6 consecutive balls.
too many freebies and once in a while a good delivery to throwing sand in the eyes of supporters. lol

we were destined to be humiliated when we selected this squad.

People were just hopeful that they might come good.
 
Wasim was an all time great but even Waqar is suspect. Ball tampering used to be rampant back then.
Ball tampering does not help you at the beginning of the match, Waqar was great even early on compare to today's bowlers. Also most of his playing days there were plenty of cameras and umpires checking the ball, so only in handful of matches he did ball tampering.
 
Shaheen continues with fluke wickets. He’s been taking some since the India game

Harris Rauf has been torn apart

Hassan Ali is doing extremely well to hang on until now, but soon the behemoths of England and South Africa will dig into him as well.
Rauf is a gone case.

Kohli and Sharma killed him. I suspect he will run away from ODIs just like he ran away from Tests after one mauling and focus on T20Is.

He is basically Pakistan’s Tymal Mills but the delusional hype machine projected him as the second coming of Akhtar and Lee.
 
Spot on hes just an overhyped train whose bubble has finally burst in the biggest stage. Kohli and sharma ended his Sorry career he’s a gone case. Need to move on and find the new pace demon
 
That was more of a joke of a game with constant stops and starts over 2 days. And conceding 300+ even with a good attack in ODIs isnt uncommon on odd days. Overall fit Shaheen and Naseem was a deadly combo that was working well for Pakistan, was able to hide average spinners when we were getting good 20 overs from Shaheen and Naseem. Once Naseem returns and Shaheen is fully fit, Pakistani pace attack should be back on track. What's worrisome is nonexistence bench strength which Pakistan need to address
It's impressive how people have excuses lined up for every issue. Pakistani pitches are the flattest highways in the world, look at how well bumrah has bowled in these rubbish Indian pitches. The reality is that your bowlers are rubbish and overrated, and nowhere near the best in the world.
 
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I even prefaced my statement and you still were offended. Enjoy being knocked out of the semi finals like usual when all of your bowlers a

I even prefaced my statement and you still were offended. Enjoy being knocked out of the semi finals like usual when all of your bowlers and Chokli fail like usual when it matters.
Fans of a team with 2 Asia cups and 3 icc trophies calling a team with 5 icc trophies and 8 Asia cups are chokers is so cute. Seems better than getting embarrassed by minnows, getting groupes and being humiliated by your arch rivals all the time
 
I even prefaced my statement and you still were offended. Enjoy being knocked out of the semi finals like usual when all of your bowlers and Chokli fail like usual when it matters.

Your team cannot reach the semis. Only once they have reached the semis in last 20 years and you make disparaging remarks against India.
 
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It's impressive how people have excuses lined up for every issue. Pakistani pitches are the flattest highways in the world, look at how well bumrah has bowled in these rubbish Indian pitches. The reality is that your bowlers are rubbish and overrated, and nowhere near the best in the world.

Why are you hurt? A few bad games and out comes the usual rubbish statement. Bumrah is a great bowler and so Is Shaheen, not in this tournament as he is out of it and seems to be carrying an injury. When India eventually chokes in semi or final we can say the same thing about the team as well right?

And yes Indians tracks are as rubbish as Pakistan, we aren't delusional. This world cup is a boring run fest because of these rubbish tracks so we can tell.... O look there was another almost 400 today between SA-Bangladesh
 
There is a difference between A B C team and a full strength team.

The England must be playing their C team in this world cup right? It's only a matter of being in form. Keep a hold on your big talks, this talk would mean nothing if you will eventually choke like all other previous tournaments.
 
Why are you hurt? A few bad games and out comes the usual rubbish statement. Bumrah is a great bowler and so Is Shaheen, not in this tournament as he is out of it and seems to be carrying an injury. When India eventually chokes in semi or final we can say the same thing about the team as well right?

And yes Indians tracks are as rubbish as Pakistan, we aren't delusional. This world cup is a boring run fest because of these rubbish tracks so we can tell.... O look there was another almost 400 today between SA-Bangladesh
The only useful line in this entire post is "Shaheen is carrying an injury", everything else is just pure garbage.
 
The only useful line in this entire post is "Shaheen is carrying an injury", everything else is just pure garbage.

Quite rich coming for your likes. And not sure why Indians take it to heart any criticism about this world cup. Yes most pitches are garbage roads, usual for South Asian pitches
 
Quite rich coming for your likes. And not sure why Indians take it to heart any criticism about this world cup. Yes most pitches are garbage roads, usual for South Asian pitches
I have no problem with criticism, it's the other things you have written which indicate deep hate and jealousy but keep it up. We all need something to be happy. If not our own success, we can wait for and enjoy others' destruction :)
 
Naseem SSA Hasnain Zaman Abrar
This should be the attack after WC they are no World beaters but give these guys a go with proper support staff keep Ihsanullah and Wasim Jr. In the mix
Go for specialists throw out all Jack's

ABShafiq Fakhar Haris+ Babar Saud Iftikhar SSA Naseem Hasnain Zaman Abrar

Since the time after Afridi Razzaq, real problem for Pakistan is the No.7 position literally no player worthy of being called an all-rounder but we have to make a decision 5 proper bowlers or continue getting hammered
 
what about Pakistan in their home series against Australia b or c team, when imam was criticised for his batting he scored 2 hundreds in that series if Pakistan pitches are not flat how could he hit 2 hundreds, India has played better in srilanka & also against new Zealand in the World Cup was a 2 paced pitch, we are showing our worth its time others show their batting in the ground rather in the mouth.
 
Why are you hurt? A few bad games and out comes the usual rubbish statement. Bumrah is a great bowler and so Is Shaheen, not in this tournament as he is out of it and seems to be carrying an injury. When India eventually chokes in semi or final we can say the same thing about the team as well right?

And yes Indians tracks are as rubbish as Pakistan, we aren't delusional. This world cup is a boring run fest because of these rubbish tracks so we can tell.... O look there was another almost 400 today between SA-Bangladesh
You have been to one wc semi and 0 finals since 1999, don't talk about choking. You get humiliated in the group stage itself
 
Pakistan needed Amir (if fully fit) and Imad in the side. These guys have the experience of performing in tournaments as well as possessing the mentality and bowling intelligence to get wickets or at the very least stem the run flow.
Isn't Imad too old to come back? How about bringing young guys like Saim Ayub
 
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I have no problem with criticism, it's the other things you have written which indicate deep hate and jealousy but keep it up. We all need something to be happy. If not our own success, we can wait for and enjoy others' destruction :)

Deep hate and jealousy? Again quite rich statement coming from people who are obsessed head over heels with Pakistan :)

Other things I wrote was simply pointing out stay grounded going by previous tournaments, it doesn't matter who played semi or final... With barely 6-7 top teams playing this sport all that matters is who lifts the cup so chokers shouldn't talk big
 
You have been to one wc semi and 0 finals since 1999, don't talk about choking. You get humiliated in the group stage itself

As I have mentioned above with barely a handful of good teams playing this sport it doesn't matter who plays semi or final when you can't finish it without chocking and can't dominate the game the way Aussies or WI did for decades, until then don't fuss over fair criticism. I don't disagree with India has done better than Pakistan in cricket over past 15 years but nothing like the way you guys chest beat over it
 
According to the usual suspects all Pakistan pkayers are rubbish, there are many other teams for you to support for a easier life!
 
Deep hate and jealousy? Again quite rich statement coming from people who are obsessed head over heels with Pakistan :)

Other things I wrote was simply pointing out stay grounded going by previous tournaments, it doesn't matter who played semi or final... With barely 6-7 top teams playing this sport all that matters is who lifts the cup so chokers shouldn't talk big
Chokers shouldn't talk big losers should :)
 
Why are you hurt? A few bad games and out comes the usual rubbish statement. Bumrah is a great bowler and so Is Shaheen, not in this tournament as he is out of it and seems to be carrying an injury. When India eventually chokes in semi or final we can say the same thing about the team as well right?

And yes Indians tracks are as rubbish as Pakistan, we aren't delusional. This world cup is a boring run fest because of these rubbish tracks so we can tell.... O look there was another almost 400 today between SA-Bangladesh

Indian tracks have more bounce than Pakistani tracks . It's not everyday you can mediocre batting lineups like Pakistan successfully chasing 350 which has happened often enough at Rawalpindi and Lahore and Karachi. And someone as mediocre as Imam looks world class over there

Problem is you are delusional about your team. Nothing wrong with Indian pitches where good bowlers are maintaining control and threat .


However, if you have brain dead bowlers like Rauf who can't land the ball on a length, the pitches will look rubbish.


It's the gap in class and talent. Good pitches expose that properly .

That's what has happened
 
Nothing will change and there will be no accountability because our captain and a lot of the fans are still convinced that this is the best pace attack in the world if Naseem is available.

Such delusion makes me laugh. It is a class example of ignoring the problems, the symptoms and attempting to seek solace by leveraging excuses that have no legs.

But this is typical for Pakistan - the players who are unavailable or not selected are always the difference makers in hypothetical situations.

If Naseem was playing, nothing would have changed. Pakistan wouldn’t have won a single game that they didn’t win. However, if Naseem was available and Shaheen/Rauf were not, then the narrative would have changed accordingly:

“Shaheen’s new ball burst would have put batting lineups on the back foot. We would have definitely beaten Afghanistan”

“Shaheen would have made a game out of the India match by not letting India get off to a flier because they cannot play him”

“Shaheen would have found a way to contain Warner and Marsh”

“Rauf with his pace, yorkers and slower ones would have been able to add bite to our attack and restrict batting lineups”

“Rauf would have been able to generate reverse swing on these dry surfaces”

🤡
 
Pakistani fast bowling - what is the hype for?

Naseem, Rauf, Hasnain, Dahani. These guys are overrated mental midgets. They turn into kittens and bolt under pressure as soon as someone takes them one.

180+ against India, over 100 runs conceded in the last 7 overs in the Asia Cup final after Sri Lanka were on the ropes at 50/5, and now getting clobbered by an England lineup that is without several key batsmen.

It seems like they’re fans, they only care about the speed gun and not have no regard for the field, how the pitch is behaving, the match situation, the batsmen in the middle etc.

The fake aura that they created in the Asia Cup has disappeared faster than their deliveries were dispatched to the boundary today.

They are poorly calibrated bowling machines with no thought-process. It seems like their only purpose is to bowl fast and do show-off for the cameras.

They have no fear factor and teams will rip them apart in the World T20 knowing that they have no plan B and they cannot contain the batsmen once they take them on.
I think it’s fair to say Pak have a terrible bowling line up right now and it’s been awful for about 15 years at least. It’s not enough to say that 1 SSA is good and the rest rubbish. For many years going back to Amir and Asif, we have had the same attitude of being heavily reliant on a couple of individuals. This is a recipe for disaster especially for an all format all season attack.

If we consider some good attacks
Warne, McGrath Gillespie..
Wasim, waqar,aqib, mush
Donald, pollock, ntini

You can see that though these are all time great attacks the reserves ie 3rd and 4th seamer were pretty good also. So if you had to do without the main bowler others could step up.

So it’s not the 1 or 2 main bowlers it’s the rest

For instance in 2010
Amir and Asif were pretty good but first change gul and kaneria were awful and would release all the pressure.

Currently Pak do not have 1 let alone 4 bowlers who can challenge any line up.

But it’s not only Pak fans. Many England fans can be lulled into the same comforting belief that they have a good attack but in the subcontinent and on slow wickets if you err by an inch you will get punished.

South Africa and new Zealand are currently showing how you maintain constant pressure through all 5 bowlers plus have one or two on the bench that are ready to go.

Suffice to say Pak will need another 3 seam bowlers aside from SSA and Naseem to even consider themselves a good attack.
 
World's Poor/ Pathetic Bowling Unit
WEST INDIES
M. Dillon C. Collymore P. Collins N. Perry W.Hinds

F.Rose D.Bryan K.Arthurton M.Nagamoto N.Mclean

SA
R.Telemachus M.Eleworthy N.Boje A.Hall N.Hayward

J.Kemp A.Morkel A.Adams. P.Harris R.Keinveldt

IND
V.kumar P.Kumar P.Chawla U.Yadav A.Dinda

D.Mohanty A.Ajarkar. V.Parasad S.Joshi R.Singh

M.Prabhakar, A.Wassan, S.Ankola, S.Bahutale .H.Kanetkar

Pak
A.Cheema M.Talha W.Riaz A.Rehman H.Azam

Rahat, Imran Jr. Sohail Khan, Z.Babar, A.Cheema

Nawaz Shadab Hassan Rauf SSA

Shadab Rauf Hassan SSA U.Mir
 
Nasser Hussain about Pakistan’s bowling:

"At this World Cup, Pakistan's bowling in particular has just not been able to keep scores down. The 2 run-chases from South Africa and Afghanistan - previous Pakistan sides would have defended both of those totals in those conditions"​
 
Nasser Hussain about Pakistan’s bowling:

"At this World Cup, Pakistan's bowling in particular has just not been able to keep scores down. The 2 run-chases from South Africa and Afghanistan - previous Pakistan sides would have defended both of those totals in those conditions"​
Exactly our bowling has masked us for a long time atleast two decades but everything has a shelf life
 
Nasser Hussain about Pakistan’s bowling:

"At this World Cup, Pakistan's bowling in particular has just not been able to keep scores down. The 2 run-chases from South Africa and Afghanistan - previous Pakistan sides would have defended both of those totals in those conditions"​
Surely this can’t be true.

Nasser Hussain saying something sensible regarding Pakistan cricket doesn’t sound believable.
 
It remains the case that the fast bowlers have done good but the spinners have been completely useless. Finally, we’re using Iftikhar as a run containing option. I still think we just go with a 4 fast bowler lineup and let the 5th over quota be shared by Iftikhar/Agha/Saud.

Mohammad Wasim Jr/Rauf are great death bowlers, but just not that great with the new ball. Hasan Ali isn’t much of a new ball bowler either. The sad thing is that the numbers on this are so incredibly clear. It takes two seconds to see how these bowlers perform during the various portions of the game, but it seems the management hasn’t even done that. Until Naseem Shah comes back or we swap in another fast bowler who pitches it up and can swing it, I’d rather just continue with the spin option on one end.
 
Good bowling attack against minnows and ordinary against top teams. Also getting cheap wickets in mickey mouse leagues has made sure our bowlers learn nothing about the art of bowling and taking wickets.
Bumrah and Shami are proven performers in Test Cricket, they now have the skills and brains to fox the batsmen. Both have good records at home and overseas especially in Australia where our super-hyped bowlers toil to even get 10 wickets in a Test match.

You become the best when you perform against the best. Keep enjoying playing the PSL and unlimited leagues.
 
They are not overrated in bowling but yeah not confident enough to compete at this level.

Otherwise same blaowing unit have performed quite well in recent past.
 
Difficult to gauge yourself when facing the worst batting unit in the tournament - Bangladesh.

WORLD CUP STAT

In terms of average third worst
In terms of strike rate absolute worst

Team averages 23.00 Strike rate 73.45

2023 STAT

If you look at 2023 stat
There also Bangladesh average is above USA/UAE/Canada/Papua New guinea. Never imagined they have gone this bad.
 
With or without Naseem, Pakistan has a joke of a pace attack and not even remotely close to India’s.

It is laughable how delusional we are.
spot on Indian attack is head and shoulders above ours. Indian bowlers some of them are already goats of the game shami and bumrah to name a few
 
Wasim Jr turned out to be good Bowler for Pakistan in this world cup. Just look at his economy rate in comparison to other Pacers of Pakistan
 
Wasim Jr turned out to be good Bowler for Pakistan in this world cup. Just look at his economy rate in comparison to other Pacers of Pakistan
And in a 3 match ODI series against Afghanistan in August, Shaheen played all 3 matches and Haris & Naseem played two each. Wasim Junior only got to play 1 match in that series. No other fast bowler was introduced in that series.
 
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