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Pakistan comfortably defeat Zimbabwe by 8 wickets in third T20I to win the series 3-0

Pakistan shouldn't pick Shadab again until he improves his batting to a point where he's good enough to bat in the top 6.

Qadir looks a much much better wrist spin option.
 
I hope Misbah understands the value of Spin, and stop selecting four pacers and two spinners instead. Shad and Usman, or Zafar and Usman with Shadab as an all rounder(so no need for Ifti or Fahim).
 
Tubs said:
George Bush went to Yale and Harvard haha. Though perhaps I was a bit harsh on Kamala.
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This isnt a political debate. Sana sounds boring no matter how good her analysis is.
 
Rana said:
Bro she could be Kamala Harris in terms of intellect but if shes going to bore the audience with here style of expression and delivery then its no point.

She wont get a deal with Sky Sports even if Sky are looking for a female Pakistani voice for the tour of Pakistan.
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I don’t want an over-reacting emotional commentator like Rameez. She’s commentating a low profile game against Zimbabwe, if she celebrates these small wickets like it was Rohit Sharma or Kohli I’d lose respect for her the way I’ve lost respect for Rambo.

angrypathan said:
Sana was a world class cricketer, and I'm sure she analyses well, but from what I've heard tonight her command over English doesn't appear to be all that great. Sounds a bit nervous as well. Urooj Mumtaz is far more enjoyable to listen to.
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Her command over English is fine, she’s completely intelligible - she has a better command than Wasim or Waqar, that’s for sure.

I can understand her completely fine and she doesn’t have a fake English accent like many tend to do. Personally, I find her calm, analytical commentary very refreshing and enjoyable as a result.

Urooj Mumtaz is okay, her voice gets high-pitched sometimes. Her sense of humor is a little dry, which works well when she’s commentating with Bazid or Rambo as they have a good interplay. Otherwise, she needs someone to bounce off of and rarely carries the commentary by herself, such as when she’s commentating with that Zimbabwean commentator
 
Dont remember enjoying display of leg spin in T20 series as much as shown by Qadir in this series. Yes the opposition isnt the strongest but he has bowled and used his varieties really well.
 
spin should be the main weapon for our t20 team, i remember seeing a stat where nearly all the best t20 bowlers were spinners.
 
At this point zimbabwe are just simply trolling pak. No team would bat first again after losing the first few matches doing so. Yet again they are going for a 120 target.
 
Qadir will need to keep on working on his game as oppositions will try to study his bowling as he grows in his career.
 
angrypathan said:
Sami could swing the ball both ways and was about 10kph quicker than Musa, not to mention a few inches taller. Bilawal Bhatti is the more apt comparison at this stage.
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Sami only swung the ball in helpful conditions. It's not like Sami is the worst bowler to compare with. He was a useful ODI bowler for most of his career. It's just his lack of control, evolving with time and buckling under pressure that killed his career.
What was annoying about Sami was he would always, always and always start bowling no balls when in the death overs or in the last 15 overs when the situation would get tight. It was, one bowler would bowl a good over a create pressure, then in the next over Sami would bowl a couple of no balls and lose his all senses.

Comparing with Bilawal Bhatti is degrading someone.

Musa isn't that bad. If he improves, he can have a good career.
 
Qadir with best figures in his T20 career including the domestic cricket and leagues.
 
Rizwan said: “isko googly karwa, out hojayega!”

And Qadir bowled the googly and got his wicket!
 
Chigumbura is only 34 and he's had enough as he knows Zimbabwe don't play enough already so he might just try his luck around as a T20 player.
 
Qadir Qadir Qadir....Afreen Afreen Afreen........the more u see him to more u identify what is missing in Shadab's bowling
 
Dead rubber.... Playing against a listless Zimbabwe, still Rohail and Zafar don't get a game.



Thank you Misbah

:salute :salute :salute
 
Usually the son is just a shadow of a cricketer compared to the father, but Usman here is doing justice to his dad's legacy
 
BunnyRabbit said:
Sami only swung the ball in helpful conditions. It's not like Sami is the worst bowler to compare with. He was a useful ODI bowler for most of his career. It's just his lack of control, evolving with time and buckling under pressure that killed his career.
What was annoying about Sami was he would always, always and always start bowling no balls when in the death overs or in the last 15 overs when the situation would get tight. It was, one bowler would bowl a good over a create pressure, then in the next over Sami would bowl a couple of no balls and lose his all senses.

Comparing with Bilawal Bhatti is degrading someone.

Musa isn't that bad. If he improves, he can have a good career.
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That was sort of my point, Sami was actually a decent LOI bowler, very skilled, but mentally fragile. I actually do not dislike Musa Khan, contrary to what some people may interpret from all my posts about him. He's young, he's quick, and as expected for his age he's nowhere near the finished product. I just think his selection with his domestic record is a mockery of merit and cheapens the value of an international cap.

Musa Khan should be playing first class cricket and developing as a bowler there, not playing for Pakistan.
 
Syed1 said:
Usually the son is just a shadow of a cricketer compared to the father, but Usman here is doing justice to his dad's legacy
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seems quite skilled, lets see what he can do against stiffer opposition.
 
I said it last game and got slaughtered but I'll say it again...

Usman will spell the end of Shah ji 🤣

I would love to see Usman bowl on a Day 5 track in a test match. It would be magical.
 
This new lady is so bad at commentary.

Urooj Mumtaz is way better.
 
Atm qadir > shadab. He can actually spin the ball unlike shadab but still has tendency to ball yorkers and short ones like shadab. But still we need to be cautious as shadab had similarly good googly at the start of his career.
 
Kenpachi said:
I said it last game and got slaughtered but I'll say it again...

Usman will spell the end of Shah ji 🤣

I would love to see Usman bowl on a Day 5 track in a test match. It would be magical.
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:)) true. However he needs to bowl more overs in FC.
 
Young pacers need to learn how at the lower order batsmen. Not sure how many balls were actually hitting the wickets in last 2-3 overs
 
Pakistan biggest problem going forward is going to be the poor fielding of our bowling attack. Apart from shaheen the rest need to be hidden in the field.
 
Usman showed what we are missing from our leggies esp Shadab.....Usman and Gohar would have eaten this line up....below 80
 
Shams123 said:
Pakistan biggest problem going forward is going to be the poor fielding of our bowling attack. Apart from shaheen the rest need to be hidden in the field.
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I'm actually surprised at the improvement in Shaheen's fielding over the last 12 months. He was terrible last year in Australia. Still got a long way to go
 
Hopefully abdullah shafeeq will open with fakhar with haider at three. I will even let khushdil bat over babar. Even in the unlikely scenario if the top order fail we have babar to finish the match.
 
Hasnain trying 4 Yorkers ..hota hai hota hai.....main weakness would be fielding....when will PCB learn and seriously appoint some one as fielding coach ..can be done with the salary of Misbah which is going waste
 
angrypathan said:
I'm actually surprised at the improvement in Shaheen's fielding over the last 12 months. He was terrible last year in Australia. Still got a long way to go
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He definitely has worked hard. Fielding is one thing that anyone can get better at with decent amount of practice.
 
angrypathan said:
That was sort of my point, Sami was actually a decent LOI bowler, very skilled, but mentally fragile. I actually do not dislike Musa Khan, contrary to what some people may interpret from all my posts about him. He's young, he's quick, and as expected for his age he's nowhere near the finished product. I just think his selection with his domestic record is a mockery of merit and cheapens the value of an international cap.

Musa Khan should be playing first class cricket and developing as a bowler there, not playing for Pakistan.
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You are right. But I think giving a promising young pacer a go in t20s is not a bad idea. He plays a series, gets to know how far behind he is for international standard. Gets to know stuff he lacks compared with what the opposition or experienced bowlers in the team have.
Then after a series, he should be sent back to domestic cricket and High Performance Centre where he can work on his shortcomings. It is often that youngsters don't accept they have any fault or know what stuff they are lacking. It's a good way to bring them to realization about where they stand. Pakistani players are pretty much like this and are blind to their shortcomings mostly.

Now, he should not be picked for NZ series and should be playing QI trophy for development.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
Sami only swung the ball in helpful conditions. It's not like Sami is the worst bowler to compare with. He was a useful ODI bowler for most of his career. It's just his lack of control, evolving with time and buckling under pressure that killed his career.
What was annoying about Sami was he would always, always and always start bowling no balls when in the death overs or in the last 15 overs when the situation would get tight. It was, one bowler would bowl a good over a create pressure, then in the next over Sami would bowl a couple of no balls and lose his all senses.

Comparing with Bilawal Bhatti is degrading someone.

Musa isn't that bad. If he improves, he can have a good career.
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Totally agree in three games he played this series he has had only one bad game. He has been unlucky with some missed catches and fieldings costing him boundaries.
 
Why wasn't Wellington Mazakadza given a chance before this game?
He is a pretty good left arm spinner. Could have made a good combo with Chisoro and Raza.
Dropping your best batter Williams is plain stupid for Zim as he is the only one whose presence would increase your chances of winning a game.
 
Shams123 said:
Atm qadir > shadab. He can actually spin the ball unlike shadab but still has tendency to ball yorkers and short ones like shadab. But still we need to be cautious as shadab had similarly good googly at the start of his career.
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While Qadir has been exceptional, Shadab still has a decent googly when he gets it right. As one starts to regularly play international cricket that novelty factor fades away. After that it goes down to how accurate you are and how you use your variations. Indian spinner Kuldeep has been struggling in recent times as teams know what he bowls and he hasnt been getting it right or mixing the variations as well as early in his career.

Expectations of fans to have a spinner who regularly takes 3-4 wickets in every match without ever having a match where he goes for 40 odd in T20s or 60-70 odd in ODIs are unrealistic. That being said Shadab along with other leggies need to keep on working hard.
 
angrypathan said:
Was the worst captain on show in the recent National T20. Shadab's captaincy ran rings around his.
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National T20 and international cricket are two different things. Steve Smith and Kohli were two of the word captains in the IPL. Even Morgan was making some serious blunders throughout the tournament until he got a grip by the time it was too late.
 
Hopefully Abdullah will open and Babar will move to no 4 or below.
 
Rana said:
National T20 and international cricket are two different things. Steve Smith and Kohli were two of the word captains in the IPL. Even Morgan was making some serious blunders throughout the tournament until he got a grip by the time it was too late.
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Of the names you've listed only Morgan is actually a good captain. Smith and Kohli are legendary cricketers but average captains.
 
angrypathan said:
Of the names you've listed only Morgan is actually a good captain. Smith and Kohli are legendary cricketers but average captains.
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The point I’m making is that if you have a pool of the best in the country as compared to the best in the region, you will be a different captain all together.

Imad Wasim is a very angry man when he is in the field and especially as a bowler. You will not see these boys making stupid misfields as often as they do with a real task master at hand
 
Shams123 said:
Yeah but with the presence of usman, zafar, zahid and shadab I dont think he is going to play all the games in a given series.
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He is rubbish captain but can play for Pak as mini all rounder when required depending on team combination.
 
Qadir bowled well Zimbabwe didn’t pick his googly other teams will be working on it.
 
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