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Pakistan comprehensively defeat South Africa by eight wickets to set up series decider at Cape Town

Rana said:
Even Pakistan are above Australia at the moment.

The real rankings for me at the moment are..

India
New Zealand
England
Bangladesh...Yes Banglandesh
Pakistan
South Africa
Australia
Afghanistan
Sri Lanka
West Indies
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Other than WI tour what has Bangladesh achieved in any overseas tour or any ICC tournument?
 
Mamoon is this another one off bad performance by
South Africa?? All these bad performances v Pakistan lololol
 
Titan24 said:
Fans need to realize this that Fakhar has an X factor and can change the game on his day. Yes can look ugly on occasions but we dont have many batsmen who can take the game away on their own
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true but risk is too big. Just look at his scores this series. He is more likely to fail then take the game away.
 
Fakhar needs to work on his stance and bat position.

Even loses grip when he tries too hard to smash the ball.
 
Rana said:
Even Pakistan are above Australia at the moment.

The real rankings for me at the moment are..

India
New Zealand
England
Bangladesh...Yes Banglandesh
Pakistan
South Africa
Australia
Afghanistan
Sri Lanka
West Indies
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you're too emotional mate, need to calm down.

bangladesh haven't done anything overseas in bilateral series'
 
Imam looks as if he had scored a duck instead of a hundred in the last match....
 
iRfaN_LA said:
true but risk is too big. Just look at his scores this series. He is more likely to fail then take the game away.
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SAF is a tough place to tour even for seasoned batsmen. Fakhar only in the last ODI series v NZ scored two excellent fifties so it's not like he's been out of form.

Drop Fakhar and this batting lineup becomes too one paced.
 
iRfaN_LA said:
true but risk is too big. Just look at his scores this series. He is more likely to fail then take the game away.
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Just in the last series he scored 70 odd, 80 odd in UAE against NZ.

You need to give any player atleast couple of full series before dropping him. There hasnt been one full series yet where Fakhar hasnt performed.
 
Titan24 said:
Other than WI tour what has Bangladesh achieved in any overseas tour or any ICC tournument?
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QF of ICC world cup 2015
Semi Final of champions trophy 2017
Finals of Asia Cup in 2018

They are a team that has worked considerably hard in trying to build a team that would match the best teams of the world. They lack talent in some aspects however their attitude to improve is second to none
 
Imam seems intelligent when it comes to chasing. Just needs to improve his strike rotation.
 
Rana said:
QF of ICC world cup 2015
Semi Final of champions trophy 2017
Finals of Asia Cup in 2018

They are a team that has worked considerably hard in trying to build a team that would match the best teams of the world. They lack talent in some aspects however their attitude to improve is second to none
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what have they done in bilateral series* overseas, you've ignored that
 
Titan24 said:
Just in the last series he scored 70 odd, 80 odd in UAE against NZ.

You need to give any player atleast couple of full series before dropping him. There hasnt been one full series yet where Fakhar hasnt performed.
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you are right and pitches in England will suit him. Main thing is for him to get his confidence back.
 
babajee said:
Shades of the old FZ! :four
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Always a good sign when he is timing his drive.

Also, too many on here have short memories. He batted well in UAE Vs NZ but more importantly was the best batsman when Pakistan toured NZ this time last year (on helpful wickets).
 
Chokli said:
what have they done in bilateral series* overseas, you've ignored that
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Fair, they dont really produce the same enthusiasm. But so do Pakistan! They are a better team than Pakistan tbf
 
mak36 said:
Always a good sign when he is timing his drive.

Also, too many on here have short memories. He batted well in UAE Vs NZ but more importantly was the best batsman when Pakistan toured NZ this time last year (on helpful wickets).
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he's just lacking confidence and it's understandable when you're in an unprofessional set up such as PCT
 
mak36 said:
Always a good sign when he is timing his drive.

Also, too many on here have short memories. He batted well in UAE Vs NZ but more importantly was the best batsman when Pakistan toured NZ this time last year (on helpful wickets).
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Absolutely. He isn't a minnow basher at all.
 
mak36 said:
Always a good sign when he is timing his drive.

Also, too many on here have short memories. He batted well in UAE Vs NZ but more importantly was the best batsman when Pakistan toured NZ this time last year (on helpful wickets).
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Spot on - the problem with the batting in this side isn't Fakhar at all. It's Imam and I know we're chasing a very low total but he is unable to bat above a SR of 60 in the first 10 overs as we've seen in previous ODIs. That's whats putting all the pressure on FZ.
 
Rana said:
Fair, they dont really produce the same enthusiasm. But so do Pakistan! They are a better team than Pakistan tbf
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they have gotten the better of us recently but we've already outperformed them in south africa.

we'll just have to see how they do versus new zealand in new zealand
 
What's the forecast like? It seems to be getting pretty cloudy . . need another 45 50 mins of play to get 20 overs in . .
 
Be good for fakhar and pakistan if he can get a unbeaten decent score here.
 
topspin said:
Spot on - the problem with the batting in this side isn't Fakhar at all. It's Imam and I know we're chasing a very low total but he is unable to bat above a SR of 60 in the first 10 overs as we've seen in previous ODIs. That's whats putting all the pressure on FZ.
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they and the fans need patience.

it's okay if you're 40/0 in 10... as long as you're 100/0 in 20.
 
Imam seems perfect when chasing scores around 250 or below but I still worry when we have to chase 300 plus that he may struggle like the rest of the line up.
 
If pakistan is batting like this, What were the Proteas thinking??🤔
Life's biggest question
 
Chokli said:
3-0 scoreline would have been sweeter
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We were so close yet so far.

I remember the Indian media saying they need to reform their team and drop Kohli, Dhoni etc.
If u look at it now, imagine if they had dropped Kohli😂
 
If you even notice Fakhars helmet isn't the best for him as it doesn't fit him properly. It's tilted more to one side and it's straight on his head.
 
Hasan123 said:
Imam seems perfect when chasing scores around 250 or below but I still worry when we have to chase 300 plus that he may struggle like the rest of the line up.
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Precisely his SR in the first 10-15 overs hovers around 60-70 and it takes him a while to reach 90-100. In a 300 run chase we would be doomed unless the partner(s) at the other end are batting at a SR of 120+.
 
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