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Pakistan has roped in New Zealand’s David Reid, who has been working with Indian Premier League (IPL) side Chennai Super Kings since 2021, as the national team’s mental and skill conditioning coach.

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) announced that Reid, who also works with the Melbourne Stars in the Big Bash League, will join the Pakistan team for the T20 International series in England and the T20 World Cup in the Americas in June.

He will be part of a strong Pakistan support staff along side Simon Helmut, who has been named as the new fielding coach.

“The appointments of Helmut and Reid were made on the recommendation of head coach Gary Kirsten, who will take charge of the team on 19th May in England,” the PCB said.

Kirsten has been named Pakistan’s new white-ball coach for two years, having previously also worked with the Indian team and is presently with Gujarat Titans in the IPL.

Aftab Khan, who has gone to Ireland and England with the Pakistan team as fielding coach, will be redesignated as the high-performance coach once Helmut joins the team, the PCB said.

The 56-year-old Kirsten was confirmed as the white-ball head coach along with Jason Gillespie as the red-ball head coach last month.

Apart from next month’s T20 World Cup and other bilateral white-ball series, Kirsten will be the head coach for the Champions Trophy 2025 in Pakistan, the T20 World Cup 2026 in India and Sri Lanka, and the T20 Asia Cup in 2025.

“I’m truly excited to embark on this new journey with the Pakistan men’s cricket team. It’s an honour to coach such a talented and dynamic team, and I’m eager to contribute to their success on the international stage,” Kirsten said in a statement.

“These are indeed thrilling times for Pakistan cricket, with a new administration and players who are driven to deliver solid results. The upcoming ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2024 presents a fantastic opportunity for us to showcase our skills and uphold Pakistan’s legacy as a formidable force in cricket,” he added.

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Pakistan hires CSK’s David Reid as mental and skill conditioning coach

Pakistan has roped in New Zealand’s David Reid, who has been working with Indian Premier League (IPL) side Chennai Super Kings since 2021, as the national team’s mental and skill conditioning coach.
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Do you expect some improvement in Pakistan players' performances after this initiative from PCB?
 
If the players have a fear of failure its difficult to outcoach unless a directive comes from the chairman PCB himself to the players saying " we back you, we won't listen to external pressures, if you fail for the right reasons nothing will happen to you".

Otherwise it's a pointless exercise.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
If the players have a fear of failure its difficult to outcoach unless a directive comes from the chairman PCB himself to the players saying " we back you, we won't listen to external pressures, if you fail for the right reasons nothing will happen to you".

Otherwise it's a pointless exercise.
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CBT works. Not every person (even sportsmen) are built the same. Some might be able to shed the fear of failure but for some it takes professional help to reach their thinking process and how to nullify what's holding them back.
 
This is what was needed. Our players are behind in terms of skill already, and whatever skills they do have, they end up under-performing due to quite possibly the weakest temperaments going around the world.

This weak temperament stems from unprofessionalism and there have been countless times where our best players have disintegrated in a pressure game.

I don’t expect Reid to do wonders immediately, but our players need this more than any other team in the world.
 
Usman Chadda said:
This is what was needed. Our players are behind in terms of skill already, and whatever skills they do have, they end up under-performing due to quite possibly the weakest temperaments going around the world.

This weak temperament stems from unprofessionalism and there have been countless times where our best players have disintegrated in a pressure game.

I don’t expect Reid to do wonders immediately, but our players need this more than any other team in the world.
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Yes he did similar experiment with India too and succeeded. May be Gary is looking ahead at CT 2025
 
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The Bald Eagle said:
Yes he did similar experiment with India too and succeeded. May be Gary is looking ahead at CT 2025
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I really hope PCB doesn’t end up losing any coaches Kirsten recommends due to pay disputes.

Our reputation is quite terrible.
 
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What would be the job description of a mental skill conditioning coach? Strong communication skills are crucial for addressing the mental aspects of coaching. Given that there is going to be a strong language barrier, I’m not sure how effective this coaching would be? Also, knowing and understanding the players' culture is important for giving the right kind of help. So, someone who knows our culture well would be the best fit for the job. It’s a nice try, but I don’t foresee this working out.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
CBT works. Not every person (even sportsmen) are built the same. Some might be able to shed the fear of failure but for some it takes professional help to reach their thinking process and how to nullify what's holding them back.
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Absolutely. But there needs to be the environment for it.

For example this type of coach could work in England's baseball environment.

How would he work in the Pakistan team when one failure can mean the end of a career?

The coach first needs to show that there is a secure environment for the players before helping them shed their fears.
 
There's no question that we need a mental performance coach because our team can be quite weak mentally. But with the language barrier and and the attitude of some of the players, the coach might end up needing some mental conditioning himself.

Jokes aside, I don't see this being a success long term, but I do like the overall look of the coach setup right now. Unlike the selection committee, these are proper professionals in their current field of work. They mean business and hopefully can bring some sense into the team. What we've lacked for a long time is accountability, with Babar having a free ride to do as he pleases and make decisions that would not benefit the team. But these coaches are not pushovers, and they have shown that they can be what Hafeez and co wanted to be and claimed to be in the management. So hopefully they're able to exercise their jobs and thoughts
 
cricketmania22 said:
What would be the job description of a mental skill conditioning coach? Strong communication skills are crucial for addressing the mental aspects of coaching. Given that there is going to be a strong language barrier, I’m not sure how effective this coaching would be? Also, knowing and understanding the players' culture is important for giving the right kind of help. So, someone who knows our culture well would be the best fit for the job. It’s a nice try, but I don’t foresee this working out.
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That’s actually a very good point.

Language barrier will be a major issue.
 
FearlessRoar said:
Pakistan has roped in New Zealand’s David Reid, who has been working with Indian Premier League (IPL) side Chennai Super Kings since 2021, as the national team’s mental and skill conditioning coach.

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) announced that Reid, who also works with the Melbourne Stars in the Big Bash League, will join the Pakistan team for the T20 International series in England and the T20 World Cup in the Americas in June.

He will be part of a strong Pakistan support staff along side Simon Helmut, who has been named as the new fielding coach.

“The appointments of Helmut and Reid were made on the recommendation of head coach Gary Kirsten, who will take charge of the team on 19th May in England,” the PCB said.

Kirsten has been named Pakistan’s new white-ball coach for two years, having previously also worked with the Indian team and is presently with Gujarat Titans in the IPL.

Aftab Khan, who has gone to Ireland and England with the Pakistan team as fielding coach, will be redesignated as the high-performance coach once Helmut joins the team, the PCB said.

The 56-year-old Kirsten was confirmed as the white-ball head coach along with Jason Gillespie as the red-ball head coach last month.

Apart from next month’s T20 World Cup and other bilateral white-ball series, Kirsten will be the head coach for the Champions Trophy 2025 in Pakistan, the T20 World Cup 2026 in India and Sri Lanka, and the T20 Asia Cup in 2025.

“I’m truly excited to embark on this new journey with the Pakistan men’s cricket team. It’s an honour to coach such a talented and dynamic team, and I’m eager to contribute to their success on the international stage,” Kirsten said in a statement.

“These are indeed thrilling times for Pakistan cricket, with a new administration and players who are driven to deliver solid results. The upcoming ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2024 presents a fantastic opportunity for us to showcase our skills and uphold Pakistan’s legacy as a formidable force in cricket,” he added.

sportstar.thehindu.com

Pakistan hires CSK’s David Reid as mental and skill conditioning coach

Pakistan has roped in New Zealand’s David Reid, who has been working with Indian Premier League (IPL) side Chennai Super Kings since 2021, as the national team’s mental and skill conditioning coach.
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Do you expect some improvement in Pakistan players' performances after this initiative from PCB?
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I just wonder how much of a mental aspect can a foreign coach help with. Particularly in a short amount of time. As there is a cultural and language gap. A foreigner will have to first understand the psyche of Pakistani people and the players.

Nonetheless having CSK in his CV is enough to hire him I suppose.
 
daytrader said:
Good call. Wish we could get Dhoni for a short stint for something like this
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They got Dhoni in as mentor for one of the worldcups, had an absolute hiding. It and his role was never mentioned again.
 
Slim said:
They got Dhoni in as mentor for one of the worldcups, had an absolute hiding. It and his role was never mentioned again.
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He was just sitting there lol. Don't think he did anything. That team didn't need any mentor. It was just free time off for MSD.
 
CSK working model is a case study. It has some of the coolest calculated minds in one place. MSD, Stephen Fleming. THey can literally turn any garbage unit into a winning unit. Anyone who has played for them have nothing but good things to say about. Uthappa played for several franchises. But he identifies himself as CSK guy. It is not without a reason they have reached 10 IPL finals 12 Play offs out of 14 seasons they played before this year and won 5. Most successful and consistent franchisees in IPL history. Plucking one person from CSK may not be enough. THat entire arsenal is amazing.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
He was just sitting there lol. Don't think he did anything. That team didn't need any mentor. It was just free time off for MSD.
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Was he though? I remember star pushing the "mentor dhoni" angle and barking about it non-stop. I guess the whole balloon lost air after the beat down in Dubai against Pakistan and was shoved under the carpet. Although nothing against Dhoni, he has my respect!
 
woah, never thought I’d live to see the day where Majid the fielding coach would be replaced.

Can’t think of any improvements under his time as the coach, good riddance.
 
So now we need a shrink as well! I don't understand the need for having all these different coaches. Next we'll be employing someone to tell the players how to wear their boots or pads too.
 
Slim said:
Was he though? I remember star pushing the "mentor dhoni" angle and barking about it non-stop. I guess the whole balloon lost air after the beat down in Dubai against Pakistan and was shoved under the carpet. Although nothing against Dhoni, he has my respect!
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Dhoni reads the game (specifically LOIs) better when he is physically present on the field. He is not a coach or mentor type guy sitting outside.
 
I hope that the new guy does not need a mental coach after his tenure ends with this team.

Pakistan team is a mental chaos, they get affected mentally too quickly. I guess a guy was needed who can work on this aspect and PCB has done the right thing to appoint one. Hopefully, we don't have to hire a psychiatrist for this guy at the end. LOL
 
Very good appointments these Reid, Helmut … keep it going for 2 years I’m sure Pakistan will yield more results and become a professional and competitive cricket team.

Naqvi has roped in good appointments which is good. Only thing that’s to be corrected is Wahab as Senior team manager, not hold multiple roles which bring conflict of interest among the unit.

I would support and back this team till they run the show. Kirsten and Gillespie are two good coaches, sure there’ll be plenty of time to make it happen and they will achieve success..
 
The only solution is to select some genuine U19 kids with genuine talent and let them play in the national side , ideally it would be couple of aggressive hitters, couple of spinners who can actually turn the ball and couple of pace bowlers, not all will swim but some will
 
This is the only solution left because our domestic cricket is not producing world class talent and in order to produce the world class talent the only way is to expose highly talented youngsters against the best in the world and let them have on job training , we have to give chances to 10 such young players and even if 3 makes it big then it will be considered job done. That’s what Imran did when our domestic cupboards were empty.
 
The names I can think of are
Ubaid Shah
Shahwaiz Irfan
Basit Ali
M.Zeeshan
Arafat Minhas
Ali Raza
Naveed Ahmed Khan
Azan Awais
Shamyl Hussain
Arish Ali khan
Faisal Akram

They all should be selected in the national team and at one time 3 of them must be in the playing XI. Let’s see how these players develop when they play against the best
 
Muhammad Saad said:
The names I can think of are
Ubaid Shah
Shahwaiz Irfan
Basit Ali
M.Zeeshan
Arafat Minhas
Ali Raza
Naveed Ahmed Khan
Azan Awais
Shamyl Hussain
Arish Ali khan
Faisal Akram

They all should be selected in the national team and at one time 3 of them must be in the playing XI. Let’s see how these players develop when they play against the best
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I think it's better to give them some exposure to higher level domestic cricket before bringing them into internationals directly. Otherwise we have seen multiple times that young kids fail to perform and get sidelined very quickly which actually ruine their confidence.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
I think it's better to give them some exposure to higher level domestic cricket before bringing them into internationals directly. Otherwise we have seen multiple times that young kids fail to perform and get sidelined very quickly which actually ruine their confidence.
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Actually no, domestic cricket won’t improve them at a rapid rate but playing against the international cricketers will man them up very quickly compare to the domestic cricket, if only 30% off these players become world class then it will still be a win win situation.

18-21 is a rapid development age for cricketers so why slow it down by making them grind the useless domestic seasons which not producing any good players for so long now?
 
I hope Azhar Mahmood is getting a big pay raise because he’s going to have to sit in on the therapy sessions and translate back and forth. I hope complex English mental health terms translate easily into Punjabi.
 
Muhammad Saad said:
The only solution is to select some genuine U19 kids with genuine talent and let them play in the national side , ideally it would be couple of aggressive hitters, couple of spinners who can actually turn the ball and couple of pace bowlers, not all will swim but some will
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We have tried this before but it was more of a hype than a real skill that we have seen. Players in Pakistan should come from a proper background, and cannot just rush them in, they are not mentally strong enough to cope up with the pressure.

PCB did the right thing to bring in the mental and skill conditioning coach. He should be working with the grassroots-level cricketers more than the national side. That way he will take less time to develop a player because young players can learn and pick thing quickly.
 
BouncerGuy said:
We have tried this before but it was more of a hype than a real skill that we have seen. Players in Pakistan should come from a proper background, and cannot just rush them in, they are not mentally strong enough to cope up with the pressure.

PCB did the right thing to bring in the mental and skill conditioning coach. He should be working with the grassroots-level cricketers more than the national side. That way he will take less time to develop a player because young players can learn and pick thing quickly.
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Let’s be related here. He’s not going to work at the grassroots level, most of his time is goona be spent in the dressing room consoling Hasan Ali after he gets lit up for 14 an over.
 
offstump said:
Let’s be related here. He’s not going to work at the grassroots level, most of his time is goona be spent in the dressing room consoling Hasan Ali after he gets lit up for 14 an over.
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Well, this is not what he is supposed to do actually. Babar is enough for this thing, he can say stuff like "You are my hero, etc etc", why waste money on a foreign guy who is going to do the same.

U19 boys are pretty undercooked and can be molded in any form at that level. They can be tough things and you can expect from them that they will pick those things quickly. At the senior level, it is very difficult to change anybody's mind according to the demanded mentality.
 
These are screenshots from PCB's team travel video

Afraid Azam Khan is not looking too good and looks lost and by himself.

Am guessing Mr. Reid is earning his keep and helping Azam out?

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If I become the head of the state for a day, I will sack 95% of team support staff. Waste of money.
 
MenInG said:
These are screenshots from PCB's team travel video

Afraid Azam Khan is not looking too good and looks lost and by himself.

Am guessing Mr. Reid is earning his keep and helping Azam out?

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Azam's energy is totally down. He looks like a kid who lost his way back home and now wandering here and there in the street.
 
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