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Pakistan reach 73/3 at stumps in the 1st innings of the 3rd Test against England

These guys have bowled 20 overs on the trot, with one 40 min. lunch break in between. Its only natural for them to get tired. What's the point of selecting Zahid or having Agha in the line-up as an all-rounder if you are not going to use them?
 
mominsaigol said:
I'll ignore that troll comment.

As for rizwan, he has a 200SR whenever he plays the sweep shot and so far in his test career he's done brilliantly against spin.

The only spinner he seems to struggle against is Moeen Ali who always gets rizzu easily but Ali isn't around any more and that was in whiteball.

Regardless Rizzu's record against England is extremely poor and I reckon he ain't gonna do well here.

Anyway, so far in his career he's been good against spin. But to act like he's better then England is funny. England isn't that bad against spin. Pakistani bowlers have just been bowling really well and credit needs to be given, Because Zahid on the same pitch was essentially a spin trundler in the last test game.

Duckett, Root are definitively better against spin then rizwan is, The rest is debatable qith the exception of the very obvious weak links in English batting lineup ofcourse.
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"England isn't that bad aganst spin" :ROFLMAO:
 
loll 40 overs in and still only two bowlers have bowled
love it
 
C'mon yaar wrap this innings up.. Make some changes Umr ka lihaaz karo these two must be tired
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
"England isn't that bad aganst spin" :ROFLMAO:
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I'm sure Misbah has told you they are, But both Root and duckett are miles ahead of rizwan at playing spin.

Followed by the fact that Pakistan isn't even bowling Agha and Zahid. Give credit to sajod and Nouman.
 
89 overs without a bowling change if you count from last game
 
did Zahid change his action? Looks more like Yasir Shahs action

looks good
 
Nikhil_cric said:
As bad as your take on Brydon Carse being useless
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I admire your great knowledge of the game. Don't want to contest what you say.

Carse will have tougher challenges though. Much tougher. Pak batsmen are the worst against good pace
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Yeah, he is useless in Asian conditions in test cricket.

I would rate him below Botham and Flintoff.

Also he is the third best allrounder in test cricket, Jadeja and Shakib are definitely ahead.
Holder too would be ahead if he played for a better team.
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Shakib hardly played against good teams, the last I checked he played England and Australia only 11 times since his debut.
 
mominsaigol said:
I'll ignore that troll comment.

As for rizwan, he has a 200SR whenever he plays the sweep shot and so far in his test career he's done brilliantly against spin.

The only spinner he seems to struggle against is Moeen Ali who always gets rizzu easily but Ali isn't around any more and that was in whiteball.

Regardless Rizzu's record against England is extremely poor and I reckon he ain't gonna do well here.

Anyway, so far in his career he's been good against spin. But to act like he's better then England is funny. England isn't that bad against spin. Pakistani bowlers have just been bowling really well and credit needs to be given, Because Zahid on the same pitch was essentially a spin trundler in the last test game.

Duckett, Root are definitively better against spin then rizwan is, The rest is debatable qith the exception of the very obvious weak links in English batting lineup ofcourse.
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Duckett averages 37.54 against spin-bowling in Tests
 
If we are going with spin-heavy strategy at home then I think we can find a better third spin option tan Zahid Mehmood
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Duckett averages 37.54 against spin-bowling in Tests
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Brother, Rizwan's avg will go down.

That 86 avg is massively inflated and it will decrease. Even you yourself know this.

You'd make a solid case if it was 50 lol.

Look at how many phattas pakistan played on to appease Babar? Imam and Abdullah were essentially playing like they were bradman on a day 5 test pitch against australia 🤣.

Rizwan was beyond awful in NZ and it resulted in a drop, and yes he was awful in both spin and pace.

In no universe would an 86 avg against spin batter ever get dropped irrespective of his avg against pace since he'd be considered too valuable, Instead he got dropped for sarfi until Sarfaraz b0tched it against Australia and Rizwan had his golden moment.

Ik you like Rizwan and you clearly don't like me but even you're fully aware that 86 avg is a scam just like Babar's avg across formats including test.

It'll drop and it'll defo drop below 37 assuming rizwan doesn't get dropped altogether.
 
Asad T said:
After England won the toss, I would have expected them to be 200-1 at this stage
It's been a while since Pakistan pleasantly surprised me
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not on this deck ... there is turn , even the 1st one turned .
 
i think surface is playing better and eng with more careful approach it does nt seem that bad. damage might be done already
 
mominsaigol said:
Brother, Rizwan's avg will go down.

That 86 avg is massively inflated and it will decrease. Even you yourself know this.

You'd make a solid case if it was 50 lol.

Look at how many phattas pakistan played on to appease Babar? Imam and Abdullah were essentially playing like they were bradman on a day 5 test pitch against australia 🤣.

Rizwan was beyond awful in NZ and it resulted in a drop, and yes he was awful in both spin and pace.

In no universe would an 86 avg against spin batter ever get dropped irrespective of his avg against pace since he'd be considered too valuable, Instead he got dropped for sarfi until Sarfaraz b0tched it against Australia and Rizwan had his golden moment.

Ik you like Rizwan and you clearly don't like me but even you're fully aware that 86 avg is a scam just like Babar's avg across formats including test.

It'll drop and it'll defo drop below 37 assuming rizwan doesn't get dropped altogether.
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Thank you for exposing yourself again. As always, when you get exposed and proven wrong you try to concoct some barely legible, incoherent argument that has nothing to do with ground realities.

Btw incase you didn't know an average of 86 against spin is better than an average of 37 against spin
 
Rana said:
It looks the same? England playing better survival cricket maybe?
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England have defended better. Yes.
At the same time, Pakistan spinners might be getting tired too.

There is a growing trend of pitches turning square with the new ball but batting gets easier as the ball gets softer. Happened in Bangladesh -South Africa as well. Century partnership between Mulder-Verreyenne and Miraz- Jaker after their respective sides were 100 odd for 6.

The first 30-35 overs are tough. Slow turn after that.
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
may be eng is playing better.. with more careful approac.. baxball does nt always work
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That bazball urge to be arrogant and dominate. All these two have done is not play those pre meditated sweep shots.

Roots dismissal was a proper setup though from Sajid. He struck him exactly where he's vulnerable.
That guy was sitting and watching Root and Brook score 600 runs combined in his drawing room
 
Where’s this game showing online? Feels more interesting than the India NZ game
 
Sajid Don 4fer already in this Test

Some bloke was saying he has no hopes from him in the 2nd Test.

Imagine trying to educate others on cricket after that.
 
Woke up early in the morning to a pleasant scoreboard. Need to wrap them up under 220 max.

Seems like we got some Saya supporters in the thread.
 
Ahmed216 said:
That bazball urge to be arrogant and dominate. All these two have done is not play those pre meditated sweep shots.

Roots dismissal was a proper setup though from Sajid. He struck him exactly where he's vulnerable.
That guy was sitting and watching Root and Brook score 600 runs combined in his drawing room
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yeah 5 dismissals were bad shots.. root misjudged the length .. it was nt sharp turn either
 
Devadwal said:
And biggest in term of balls. They are not playing bazball cricket
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Real credit of Bazball goes to the lejunds Babar and Ramiz.

If Brendon ever writes a book, there needs to be admission from him on how Babar’s lust for easy runs actually was instrumental in making Bazball a success. England and Babar won. Pakistan lost.
 
Human786 said:
ENG batting was poor in 1st session , had they been sensible , would have been 110/2 in stead of 110/5 .
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Lol same thing was said in last match, you got to pay some respect to the bowlers. They have been bowling really well.
 
im saying it.. 250 will be below par score.. Pakistan can counter spin better than England..
 
Slim said:
Real credit of Bazball goes to the lejunds Babar and Ramiz.

If Brendon ever writes a book, there needs to be admission from him on how Babar’s lust for easy runs actually was instrumental in making Bazball a success. England and Babar won. Pakistan lost.
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Agree with this . Ramiz and Babar were behind Flat roads.

They haven't learnt any lession before this series but after 1st test when they change the selectors, we have seen spin friendly pitches

Whoever are behind,need to be applauded.
 
Jamie Smith is a really good and timely find for England especially in a period where the careers of Bairstow and Buttler are about to come to an end. Might have already happened with Bairstow.
 
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