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Pakistan reduce New Zealand to 26/2 at Stumps after being bowled out for 348 with a 74-run lead

How so the curator himself said that there is very little he can do with these desert artifically laid pitches. Pak do not get much 5 test series against the top teams. So all 5 are actually true.

Our batting is too fragile to benefit from doctored pitches. If we produce rank turners, it will backfire because our batsmen will fall like ninepins against any half decent spinner.
 
And people said I was wrist slitting when I said we'd probably not take a wicket today.

Half the overs done and no wickets :))

Mate remember whose batting last here...

With Azhar our, this is going to be a crucial period of play.
 
Good innings by Azhar, especially since we lost early wickets.

Also, we can complain about his strike rate, but he has been striking at a higher rate than most of our other batsmen.
 
Lets see if lessons from 1st test have been learnt and see if we can get a big lead or make a dogs dinner of things again.
 
Good innings by Azhar, especially since we lost early wickets.

Also, we can complain about his strike rate, but he has been striking at a higher rate than most of our other batsmen.

When he does play positively he scores runs, no brainer really!
 
Pakistan needs to bat half day into tomorrow. And then hope for the best.
 
Mate remember whose batting last here...

With Azhar our, this is going to be a crucial period of play.

There's a reason Azhar is the highest run scorer this series (outscoring the likes of KW and Ross Taylor).
[MENTION=601]Blistering Barnacle[/MENTION]
 
Hafeez guard of honour plans require Pakistan to bat again
 
Lets see if lessons from 1st test have been learnt and see if we can get a big lead or make a dogs dinner of things again.

we really need to have azhar in the ODI side instead of Imam. Overall he is our best test bat by miles and one of the best in the world. I dont get why people hate him so much. Its nonsensical.
 
Our batting is too fragile to benefit from doctored pitches. If we produce rank turners, it will backfire because our batsmen will fall like ninepins against any half decent spinner.

I don't think he means producing rank turners, probably means we can produce pitches that suit our players.
 
Younis
Inzamam
Yousuf
Javed

Azhar and saleem malik are joint fifth in the most test centuries list for pakistan
 
My point is that players like Milner and Azhar are useful only if you have top players in other positions. Take Salah, Mane, Firmingo, Van Dijk etc. out of Liverpool and Milner will not take the team anywhere, but replace him with a world class player and Liverpool might eclipse City.

As far Azhar is concerned, only a team that has two world class 50 average/50 strike rate batsmen can carry someone like him, because he cannot take charge of the game and has to be carried by superior batsmen.

If he is your best batsman and the guy you look to to carry the lineup, you have serious problems, and that is why we are a 6th ranked team.

So basically we are making the same point but you are putting a negative spin on it..
 
we really need to have azhar in the ODI side instead of Imam. Overall he is our best test bat by miles and one of the best in the world. I dont get why people hate him so much. Its nonsensical.

Don't be fooled by his test performances.
He is good test player.
But no where near to modern of bat.
 
Finally a 100 for Shafiq, His been below par every since younis and misbah retired.
 
Don't be fooled by his test performances.
He is good test player.
But no where near to modern of bat.

I disagree. He is a player who has skills and can blunt some of the best attacks out there. Give him a clear role and he can do great for us ala the CT. Plus he can play under pressure. He should be in the ODI squad. This modern batsman bakwaas is just that. There is only one modern batsman and his name is kohli..
 
Hopefully he can carry on from here, He really struggled after MissYou retired and found himself unable to take the extra responsibility.
 
Risk throwing this away. Take your time and get a big lead. There is no rush!
 
Really need to dig in now.
Game is even Stevens with Pakistan having to bat last.
Need at least another 100-120 runs from here
 
Shafiq always loses concentration as if his work is done after reaching a ton. This is the reason why his top score is just 137
 
What is with Asad under 90s...if you can't make single easily <<< was typing this and then a colleague of mine interrupted me, returned back to screen and wola .... Asad is gone!!!!!

Asad.... literally!!!!.......... you are treating Pakistan fans like that?
 
Shafiq highest score is 109 i think, never made a big 100.
 
Asad shafique gets out on 0 he receives criticism and he scores a 100 he still receives criticism. That is how life works guys.

There are 33 overs left. In worst case scenario Pakistan even if Pakistan loses all 5 wickets, I am sure they will eat away 25 overs, that is another minimum 50-60 runs.

100 Run lead is not bad at all.
 
if either of these gets out, the other batsmen needs to bat alot better with tail then previously.
 
There's 2 ways Pakistan can go about business here. Either try to get a huge lead of around 250 and try to bat once. That may be difficult given this is the last recognized batting pair. Second is try to get a lead of 150 as quickly as possible and get NZ in again leaving yourself enough time to chase whatever target you have for the fourth innings.
 
Unless Yasir bowls them out fr 90 again brace yourselfs for another final day 140 run chase calamity.
 
Need a 100 run lead. Sarfraz has to play a captain's knock.
 
Match & series deciding session this one.

We need a 100 plus lead!
 
Bilal has to score at least 30. Your number 8 cannot be a dud with the bat.
 
Again I come back to the opening issue. When you have two non-performing openers then the wickets of your middle-order batsmen become more damaging than usual.

Imagine how useful even an extra 30-40 from Imam and Hafeez would be here.
 
110-130 lead minimum to compete and not be blown away in 4th innings. 150+ and we’ll be in business.
 
Sarfaraz really wants lead around 100 and this is making him play an un natural game. Dont remember last time he scored 5 of 29 balls.

He should play naturally and that style of play would also be a best strategy at this stage.
 
Bilal should make the best out of this opportunity now
 
Paul Reiffel is such a terrible umpire.
 
You could see off stump so really don't know what Rambo is talking about.
 
If they can survive until the morning they need to come back and bat positively and make as many as possible.
 
Bilal mian is useless with bat how did he open for Sialkot can’t believe
 
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