I get the rest of it but why would Putin do anything in this case whether India is its defense customer or not, Russia and India have always been friends, why do you think will Putin side with Pak?
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I get the rest of it but why would Putin do anything in this case whether India is its defense customer or not, Russia and India have always been friends, why do you think will Putin side with Pak?
Pakistan is facing water crisis and the blockage From India through Indian occupied Kashmir has Pakistan planning for the long game already. And this kind of issues give perfect excuse for Pakistan to get involved.
The victory is already gifted to us as prophesied 1400 years ago. Just have faith and reply back.
The victory is already gifted to us as prophesied 1400 years ago. Just have faith and reply back.
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National Assembly Speaker Asad Qaiser on Tuesday adjourned the joint session of the parliament briefly after opposition lawmakers caused a ruckus in the house.
The joint session of upper and lower houses was summoned by President Arif Alvi yesterday to decide Pakistan's future course of action in the wake of India's decision to strip occupied Kashmir of its special status under Article 370. But the session was disrupted soon after beginning by protest from opposition lawmakers who pointed out that the day's agenda did not specifically mention Article 370 of the Indian constitution.
“This House may discuss the recent surge in unprovoked firing and shelling on civilian population and use of cluster bombs by Indian forces in Azad Jammu and Kashmir; deployment of additional troops and atrocities in Indian-occupied Jammu and Kashmir and recent developments,” said the agenda issued yesterday by the National Assembly Secretariat for the joint sitting.
The protest and chants during today's sitting continued even after Qaiser assured that Article 370 will be mentioned in the resolution that was moved by Federal Minister for Parliamentary Affairs Azam Khan Swati condemning India's "illegal actions" in occupied Kashmir.
Special Assistant to the Prime Minister (SAPM) on Information Firdous Ashiq Awan addressed opposition's protest in a conversation with media outside the Parliament House and said: "We respect the opposition's wishes and will make the additions they are calling for because no controversy should be created on a resolution supporting the rights of Kashmiris."
"Kashmiris are looking towards Pakistan in this time of dire need," she added. "We would like them to know that they are not alone; Pakistan will continue its diplomatic support for their cause and raise the matter on all relevant forums.
"We are looking to raise the matter in the United Nations and ask the forum to look into India's violation of their conventions."
PML-N leader Ahsan Iqbal also spoke to reporters outside parliament building and said that the opposition had protested "with a heavy heart" because the resolution presented by the government did not mention the reason due to which the session had been called: the scrapping of Article 370.
"All international laws recognise the border that separates Indian-occupied Kashmir and Azad Jammu and Kashmir as Line of Control. India tried to convert Line of Control into an international border, which is not a trivial matter."
Parliament joint session
Human Rights Minister Shireen Mazari, Science and Technology Minister Fawad Chaudhry, Railways Minister Sheikh Rasheed, Leader of the Opposition in the National Assembly Shehbaz Sharif, PML-N leaders Khawaja Asif and Ayaz Sadiq among other MNAs as well as senators were in attendance. Azad Jammu and Kashmir Prime Minister Raja Farooq Haider was also attending today's session.
Opposition parties had demanded that a joint session be convened soon after media broke the news of India's decision to repeal Article 370. PPP Chairperson Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari was the first opposition leader who had called for immediately summoning the joint session of parliament. He then flew to Islamabad from Karachi to participate in the joint session.
Meanwhile, a Corps Commander meeting under the chairmanship of Army Chief Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa is underway in Rawalpindi to discuss the deteriorating situation in occupied Kashmir and the Indian aggression along the Line of Control, reported Radio Pakistan.
India's presidential order
Yesterday, India's ruling BJP stripped Kashmiris of the special autonomy they had for seven decades through a rushed presidential order. An indefinite curfew — that has entered its third day today — was imposed in occupied Kashmir and elected leaders were put under house arrest.
By repealing Article 370 of the constitution, people from the rest of India will now have the right to acquire property in IoK and settle there permanently. Kashmiris as well as critics of India’s Hindu nationalist-led government see the move as an attempt to dilute the demographics of Muslim-majority Kashmir with Hindu settlers.
Furthermore, Indian Home Minister Amit Shah, who is also president of the BJP, moved a bill to bifurcate the state into two union territories — one, Jammu and Kashmir, which will have a legislature, and the other, Ladakh — to be directly ruled by New Delhi.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1498411/j...-to-begin-as-govt-tries-to-placate-opposition
The joint session of upper and lower houses was summoned by President Arif Alvi yesterday to decide Pakistan's future course of action in the wake of India's decision to strip occupied Kashmir of its special status under Article 370. But the session was disrupted soon after beginning by protest from opposition lawmakers who pointed out that the day's agenda did not specifically mention Article 370 of the Indian constitution.
“This House may discuss the recent surge in unprovoked firing and shelling on civilian population and use of cluster bombs by Indian forces in Azad Jammu and Kashmir; deployment of additional troops and atrocities in Indian-occupied Jammu and Kashmir and recent developments,” said the agenda issued yesterday by the National Assembly Secretariat for the joint sitting.
The protest and chants during today's sitting continued even after Qaiser assured that Article 370 will be mentioned in the resolution that was moved by Federal Minister for Parliamentary Affairs Azam Khan Swati condemning India's "illegal actions" in occupied Kashmir.
Special Assistant to the Prime Minister (SAPM) on Information Firdous Ashiq Awan addressed opposition's protest in a conversation with media outside the Parliament House and said: "We respect the opposition's wishes and will make the additions they are calling for because no controversy should be created on a resolution supporting the rights of Kashmiris."
"Kashmiris are looking towards Pakistan in this time of dire need," she added. "We would like them to know that they are not alone; Pakistan will continue its diplomatic support for their cause and raise the matter on all relevant forums.
"We are looking to raise the matter in the United Nations and ask the forum to look into India's violation of their conventions."
PML-N leader Ahsan Iqbal also spoke to reporters outside parliament building and said that the opposition had protested "with a heavy heart" because the resolution presented by the government did not mention the reason due to which the session had been called: the scrapping of Article 370.
"All international laws recognise the border that separates Indian-occupied Kashmir and Azad Jammu and Kashmir as Line of Control. India tried to convert Line of Control into an international border, which is not a trivial matter."
Parliament joint session
Human Rights Minister Shireen Mazari, Science and Technology Minister Fawad Chaudhry, Railways Minister Sheikh Rasheed, Leader of the Opposition in the National Assembly Shehbaz Sharif, PML-N leaders Khawaja Asif and Ayaz Sadiq among other MNAs as well as senators were in attendance. Azad Jammu and Kashmir Prime Minister Raja Farooq Haider was also attending today's session.
Opposition parties had demanded that a joint session be convened soon after media broke the news of India's decision to repeal Article 370. PPP Chairperson Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari was the first opposition leader who had called for immediately summoning the joint session of parliament. He then flew to Islamabad from Karachi to participate in the joint session.
Meanwhile, a Corps Commander meeting under the chairmanship of Army Chief Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa is underway in Rawalpindi to discuss the deteriorating situation in occupied Kashmir and the Indian aggression along the Line of Control, reported Radio Pakistan.
India's presidential order
Yesterday, India's ruling BJP stripped Kashmiris of the special autonomy they had for seven decades through a rushed presidential order. An indefinite curfew — that has entered its third day today — was imposed in occupied Kashmir and elected leaders were put under house arrest.
By repealing Article 370 of the constitution, people from the rest of India will now have the right to acquire property in IoK and settle there permanently. Kashmiris as well as critics of India’s Hindu nationalist-led government see the move as an attempt to dilute the demographics of Muslim-majority Kashmir with Hindu settlers.
Furthermore, Indian Home Minister Amit Shah, who is also president of the BJP, moved a bill to bifurcate the state into two union territories — one, Jammu and Kashmir, which will have a legislature, and the other, Ladakh — to be directly ruled by New Delhi.
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Reportedly Mr Khan and FM Qureshi were absent when the joint session of NA started.Rumours circulating the Pak top brass were made aware of this development on US trip.Fishy.Nation needs to know.
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'If this is how India behaves with its own, what expectation can Pakistan have?' asks FM Qureshi
Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi on Saturday drew attention to the increasingly apparent divisions within India after an 11-member contingent of its opposition parties was prevented from visiting Srinagar in occupied Kashmir, as a security clampdown there entered its 20th day.
"This is the true face of the Indian government which the world is witnessing today," said the foreign minister as he addressed a press conference in Islamabad.
"Today the fascist attitude of the Modi administration was demonstrated at the Srinagar airport today," he said, referring to the arrest of former Congress president Rahul Gandhi and other opposition leaders shortly after they landed.
"I call upon democratic nations of the world to view that footage [of their arrest]. When they treat their own this way, what expectation can be had when we [Pakistan] are told to hold a dialogue with them?" said Qureshi.
India's ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) stripped Kashmiris of the special autonomy they had for seven decades through a rushed presidential order on August 5, a decision which was strongly condemned by Pakistan as well as the opposition parties in India. That same evening, India imposed curfew-like restrictions in the restive region.
Qureshi, in his briefing, highlighted the stifling communications blockade in the disputed territory which had forced media to use whatever "broken equipment" they have to record footage and send it out through their relatives.
"So in this environment, he [Gandhi] goes to assess the situation, wishing to meet the Kashmiri leadership. He is arrested at the airport and transferred to New Delhi on the next flight," he said.
Qureshi also spoke of how the Congress party spokesperson, while attempting to hold a media briefing in protest, was arrested mid conference.
UN Secretary general apprised of latest developments
The foreign minister said that he spoke to the United Nations Secretary General António Guterres about this recent development as well as yesterday's protest in various places after Friday prayers in which "tear gas and pellet guns were employed to injure people".
He said his aim was to apprise the UN secretary general of the situation in occupied Kashmir since after a meeting of the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) was held to discuss it.
"He is in Paris and I spoke to him. I thanked him for his statement and the way he presented a legally and politically sound stance on the issue. I'm sure Kashmiris must have also gained courage from his statement," he said.
Qureshi said he also thanked the United Nations for convening the UNSC session. "With the closed-door meeting the message we [Pakistan] got was that it is the wish of all members that the matter be resolved peacefully," said the foreign minister to the UN secretary general.
"But I also wish to draw your attention to the fact that on the one hand we are being advised to move forward peacefully, and [on the other] today is the 20th day of curfew — the curfew continues day and night," said Qureshi to Duterres.
"I also drew his attention to the fact that yesterday, Friday prayers were impeded — a fundamental right of every Muslim — a lot of mosques were locked up, and some people who wished to proceed to the UN office there, were fired upon with pellet guns, were shelled and tortured," he added.
The foreign minister said he had told the UN secretary general that of the three parties to the Kashmir dispute, two had clearly presented their stance regarding the August 5 measures taken by India.
Pakistan, in every possible shade of its political opinion, has rejected the August 5 action which stripped Kashmir of its autonomy, he said. "It has declared the move unconstitutional, illegal, in contravention of the UNSC resolutions, in violation of the UN charter."
"All the Kashmiris have also rejected these measures," he said.
"The third dispute to the party stands divided. And it was evident in the way things played out at the Srinagar airport today," said Qureshi.
"I also talked about the human rights violations, thousands of detentions, food shortages, medicine shortages because I feel his voice has weight. This is such an organisation. When the secretary general of the United Nations gives a statement, it has moral weightage. And the world listens."
Qureshi said he also spoke of the use of pellet guns and cluster bombs (lobbed from across the Line of Control). Furthermore, he said he had apprised Guterres of Prime Minister Imran Khan's apprehensions of a "false flag operation" and that India is likely preparing to "create a Pulwama-like drama".
'Your words have weight'
He said he urged the secretary general to ensure that the United Nations move forward in addressing this issue with the same spirit that it always has in dealing with conflict.
"I requested him that given his organisation's efforts which have always prioritised preventive measures in a conflict, and as there is a humanitarian crisis in the making, and given the threat in terms of peace and security, that his organisation move forward [and act] immediately."
Qureshi said he presented Guterres with the following points in this regard:
United Nations must play its role for the safety of the lives of the Kashmiris.
Your Security Council's resolution binds you to stand as an obstacle in the face of demographic changes.
We hope that the United Nations will expedite its efforts towards the lifting of the curfew in occupied Kashmir.
Your words have weight, kindly do the following: The p5 leadership must be informed of the sensitivity of the situation and whether or not the security council convenes a session, do keep on briefing them because they should know what the situation is leaning towards as it evolves.
The oppressed and unarmed Kashmiris, their hungry children, and their fearful parents expect that the United Nations Human Rights division will continue to play a lead role in highlighting the situation.
The Kashmiris await justice. They look to the international community with patience and hope it has their back. If it lets them down they will have no choice but to make use of whatever option is available to resist this sort of highhandedness, this undemocratic order and these inhuman actions.
The foreign minister said that he requested, despite knowing full well of the scope of his commitments, that he visit South Asia and Kashmir "as the situation in the region demands it".
"I invite him. The citizens of Azad Kashmir will await his arrival. We are ready to facilitate him for wherever he wishes to go and whomever he wishes to meet.
"And in this situation in which facts are being hidden and twisted, he himself should demand he be allowed to visit [occupied Kashmir] so that he can see the situation for himself, present the facts to the world and play his role in averting a humanitarian crisis," said FM Qureshi.
The foreign minister said that Guterres gave him "a very patient hearing" and assured him that he would speak to Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and discuss the issues highlighted today. According to the foreign minister, "Guterres said he had offered to play a role in the past to defuse the situation and is ready today too but India had not been forthcoming".
FM Qureshi said that Secretary General Guterres assured him he would continue to play his role and will share whatever was communicated to him by the foreign minister with his spokesperson in New York who will "represent his [Guterres'] voice".
https://www.dawn.com/news/1501407/i...expectation-can-pakistan-have-asks-fm-qureshi
Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi on Saturday drew attention to the increasingly apparent divisions within India after an 11-member contingent of its opposition parties was prevented from visiting Srinagar in occupied Kashmir, as a security clampdown there entered its 20th day.
"This is the true face of the Indian government which the world is witnessing today," said the foreign minister as he addressed a press conference in Islamabad.
"Today the fascist attitude of the Modi administration was demonstrated at the Srinagar airport today," he said, referring to the arrest of former Congress president Rahul Gandhi and other opposition leaders shortly after they landed.
"I call upon democratic nations of the world to view that footage [of their arrest]. When they treat their own this way, what expectation can be had when we [Pakistan] are told to hold a dialogue with them?" said Qureshi.
India's ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) stripped Kashmiris of the special autonomy they had for seven decades through a rushed presidential order on August 5, a decision which was strongly condemned by Pakistan as well as the opposition parties in India. That same evening, India imposed curfew-like restrictions in the restive region.
Qureshi, in his briefing, highlighted the stifling communications blockade in the disputed territory which had forced media to use whatever "broken equipment" they have to record footage and send it out through their relatives.
"So in this environment, he [Gandhi] goes to assess the situation, wishing to meet the Kashmiri leadership. He is arrested at the airport and transferred to New Delhi on the next flight," he said.
Qureshi also spoke of how the Congress party spokesperson, while attempting to hold a media briefing in protest, was arrested mid conference.
UN Secretary general apprised of latest developments
The foreign minister said that he spoke to the United Nations Secretary General António Guterres about this recent development as well as yesterday's protest in various places after Friday prayers in which "tear gas and pellet guns were employed to injure people".
He said his aim was to apprise the UN secretary general of the situation in occupied Kashmir since after a meeting of the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) was held to discuss it.
"He is in Paris and I spoke to him. I thanked him for his statement and the way he presented a legally and politically sound stance on the issue. I'm sure Kashmiris must have also gained courage from his statement," he said.
Qureshi said he also thanked the United Nations for convening the UNSC session. "With the closed-door meeting the message we [Pakistan] got was that it is the wish of all members that the matter be resolved peacefully," said the foreign minister to the UN secretary general.
"But I also wish to draw your attention to the fact that on the one hand we are being advised to move forward peacefully, and [on the other] today is the 20th day of curfew — the curfew continues day and night," said Qureshi to Duterres.
"I also drew his attention to the fact that yesterday, Friday prayers were impeded — a fundamental right of every Muslim — a lot of mosques were locked up, and some people who wished to proceed to the UN office there, were fired upon with pellet guns, were shelled and tortured," he added.
The foreign minister said he had told the UN secretary general that of the three parties to the Kashmir dispute, two had clearly presented their stance regarding the August 5 measures taken by India.
Pakistan, in every possible shade of its political opinion, has rejected the August 5 action which stripped Kashmir of its autonomy, he said. "It has declared the move unconstitutional, illegal, in contravention of the UNSC resolutions, in violation of the UN charter."
"All the Kashmiris have also rejected these measures," he said.
"The third dispute to the party stands divided. And it was evident in the way things played out at the Srinagar airport today," said Qureshi.
"I also talked about the human rights violations, thousands of detentions, food shortages, medicine shortages because I feel his voice has weight. This is such an organisation. When the secretary general of the United Nations gives a statement, it has moral weightage. And the world listens."
Qureshi said he also spoke of the use of pellet guns and cluster bombs (lobbed from across the Line of Control). Furthermore, he said he had apprised Guterres of Prime Minister Imran Khan's apprehensions of a "false flag operation" and that India is likely preparing to "create a Pulwama-like drama".
'Your words have weight'
He said he urged the secretary general to ensure that the United Nations move forward in addressing this issue with the same spirit that it always has in dealing with conflict.
"I requested him that given his organisation's efforts which have always prioritised preventive measures in a conflict, and as there is a humanitarian crisis in the making, and given the threat in terms of peace and security, that his organisation move forward [and act] immediately."
Qureshi said he presented Guterres with the following points in this regard:
United Nations must play its role for the safety of the lives of the Kashmiris.
Your Security Council's resolution binds you to stand as an obstacle in the face of demographic changes.
We hope that the United Nations will expedite its efforts towards the lifting of the curfew in occupied Kashmir.
Your words have weight, kindly do the following: The p5 leadership must be informed of the sensitivity of the situation and whether or not the security council convenes a session, do keep on briefing them because they should know what the situation is leaning towards as it evolves.
The oppressed and unarmed Kashmiris, their hungry children, and their fearful parents expect that the United Nations Human Rights division will continue to play a lead role in highlighting the situation.
The Kashmiris await justice. They look to the international community with patience and hope it has their back. If it lets them down they will have no choice but to make use of whatever option is available to resist this sort of highhandedness, this undemocratic order and these inhuman actions.
The foreign minister said that he requested, despite knowing full well of the scope of his commitments, that he visit South Asia and Kashmir "as the situation in the region demands it".
"I invite him. The citizens of Azad Kashmir will await his arrival. We are ready to facilitate him for wherever he wishes to go and whomever he wishes to meet.
"And in this situation in which facts are being hidden and twisted, he himself should demand he be allowed to visit [occupied Kashmir] so that he can see the situation for himself, present the facts to the world and play his role in averting a humanitarian crisis," said FM Qureshi.
The foreign minister said that Guterres gave him "a very patient hearing" and assured him that he would speak to Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and discuss the issues highlighted today. According to the foreign minister, "Guterres said he had offered to play a role in the past to defuse the situation and is ready today too but India had not been forthcoming".
FM Qureshi said that Secretary General Guterres assured him he would continue to play his role and will share whatever was communicated to him by the foreign minister with his spokesperson in New York who will "represent his [Guterres'] voice".
https://www.dawn.com/news/1501407/i...expectation-can-pakistan-have-asks-fm-qureshi
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