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Pakistan squad for the 5-match T20I series against New Zealand announced

Have Pakistan chosen the right squad for the 5 match T20I series?

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Rana said:
“Yes mods help me know cos I can’t call him a liar anymore knowing that I’ve been exposed as one”
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Remember when you said Usman Khan was dropped because Rizwan was trying to stop him from joining the team and the whole time he was attending to a personal matter in the UAE :ROFLMAO:

Can’t wait for Usman Khan to join Saya Corp :rizwan
 
160KPH said:
Hold on a second. Is Usman Khan already part of Saya Corp?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1575060952222793729

@Rana your worst nightmare has come alive. :rizwan
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What does this have to do with Babar and Rizwan with their Saya based corrupt agenda that was there for all to see in the 2023 World Cup and leading into it before it?

Are you going to lie now that they didn’t make decisions based on this agency? Go on ya hypocrite
 
Rana said:
What does this have to do with Babar and Rizwan with their Saya based corrupt agenda that was there for all to see in the 2023 World Cup and leading into it before it?

Are you going to lie now that they didn’t make decisions based on this agency? Go on ya hypocrite
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No I agree, Mohammad Haris is being kept out of the side by Saya Corp because he is represented by ICA! While Rizwan has selected Saya Corp backed Usman Khan!

:rizwan
 
emranabbas said:
@160KPH had to call his friends for backup 🤣
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Typical hypocrite

This guy made the biggest blunder of his career here with that nonsense of Australia and India. As if Pakistan are supposedly doing the right thing as if these two teams are doing it or are following Pakistan’s pathetic method

I’m going to send this guy back into the lockdown where his ilk emerged from!
 
160KPH said:
No I agree, Mohammad Haris is being kept out of the side by Saya Corp because he is represented by ICA! While Rizwan has selected Saya Corp backed Usman Khan!

:rizwan
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AuStRaLiA aNd InDia

“160kph clownery” 🤡
 
Rana said:
Typical hypocrite

This guy made the biggest blunder of his career here with that nonsense of Australia and India. As if Pakistan are supposedly doing the right thing as if these two teams are doing it or are following Pakistan’s pathetic method

I’m going to send this guy back into the lockdown where his ilk emerged from!
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My career? Bro it’s an online forum talking about cricket, it’s not that serious.
 
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Rana said:
No. I notified the mods who stop us from personally abusing and insulting each other. Something we respect.

It’s a jack@ss like you who resorted to Personal attacks when questioned for your ridiculous comments on a cricketing merit. So if the mods are ok with it, I’ll happily oblige to your level.
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Why did you censor the word jackass like a little kid?
 
Also why are you so angry now? I agree with you, Rizwan through Saya Corp is keeping out ICA Mohammad Haris by backing Saya Corp represented Usman Khan.
 
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160KPH said:
My career? Bro it’s an online forum talking about cricket, it’s not that serious.

Now go along and run to the mods. :rizwan
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Don’t bro me.

Your not on that level to bro me. I don’t need a hypocrite to bro me. Why don’t you explain how Australia and India are structuring their team like Pakistan are supposedly doing, or admit it was all hogwash?
 
“160kph arrival to save PakengFan”

“160kph India and Australia structuring”

“160kph dishing out personal attacks when called out for dumb cricket ideas”


THEY CANNOT PLAY HIM 🤡
 
Rana said:
Don’t bro me.

You’re not on that level to bro me. I don’t need a hypocrite to bro me. Why don’t you explain how Australia and India are structuring their team like Pakistan are supposedly doing, or admit it was all hogwash?
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If I call you brother again, what will you do? Run to the mods again?

No one said that they structure the team like Pakistan. Please stop embarassing yourself. I said that just because you play in one position in IPL does not mean you will play the same position in the Indian international cricket team.
 
160KPH said:
Their whole agenda has been horribly exposed.
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How? By proving a good majority of Pakistan’s main roster is on Saya payroll? That’s your agenda exposed, as you are the ones who are happy to defend this crap.
 
Rana said:
How? By proving a good majority of Pakistan’s main roster is on Saya payroll? That’s your agenda exposed, as you are the ones who are happy to defend this crap.
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What are you talking about? I already agreed with you that Haris is probably kept out of the team because he’s not a part of Saya Corp? But now all of a sudden you are pro Saya Corp and want Usman Khan selected instead?
 
Man proves Usman Khan is also on Saya Payroll

Apparently an agenda has been exposed

A* clownery
 
160KPH said:
This is already how all sides including Australia and India construct their T20 teams.

I think you should apply for a cricket team director job or maybe coach! I suppose this whole time India/Australia/England have all been wrong about how to construct T20 teams and what they were really missing was players like Azam Khan in the middle. You and your knowledge could revolutionize cricket!

Why did you write such a long post that basically says nothing? Obviously it’s easier to score in the power play when there’s less fielders outside the circle and obviously the last 5 or so overs are when the batting side is trying to play at the highest SR.

If you’re basing it on skills then I have no clue why you’re calling Usman Khan an opener. He has many technical deficiencies and will fail against top tier fast bowling. In PSL, all of his big hits mostly come against spin in the middle overs. Fakhar had failed horribly as an opener in T20, yet been successful as #4.

You were too scared to address any of the actual points in my original post and you basically just agreed with it. But then once another poster came into the forum you started questioning my cricket knowledge all while it sounds like you just learned about the T20 cricket rules for the first time today.

Bro why are you so impressed by this :ROFLMAO:

He basically said that it’s easier to score in the beginning when there’s less fielders outside the circle and most teams try to score explosively at the end. That much is very obvious.
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He made me change my opinion about haris, so I'm fine with hacks opening now that's why.
 
mominsaigol said:
He made me change my opinion about haris, so I'm fine with hacks opening now that's why.
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Ahh I see. I mean yeah that’s why I think Harris/Saim is a fine opening combo when there’s only a few fielders outside of the circle anyway.
 
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My playing 11:
- Rizwan / Babar
- Saim
- Babar / Rizwan
- Usman K / Fakhar(not in good form)
- Shadab
- Imad
- Azam
- Iftimania
- Shaheen
- Naseem
- Amir

This entire team can bat.
3 specialist seamers
2 spin bowling ARs
2 part timers in Ifti & Saim but Babar must be courageous to use them
2 hitters / finishers in Azam & Ifti
 
Dr_Bassim said:
There are hacks and then there are even worse.

Haris and Saim are good to open.

But someone like Awais Zia ?

Hacks should have shots.
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By hacks I didn't mean players who can't even average 10.
 
Is this series going to be getting any international coverage as in being televised?

Is there a list yet or we find out on the morning of the first game?
 
PakEngFan said:
The embarrassment for some people.
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Bro why do you come everytime with one liners

Formulate your own opinions and address others?

Theirs no need to follow the typical pattern of

- Claim you don't like a player

- Then claim to want the player because theirs no other choice.

- Then when people offer alternatives, claim that it doesn't work because you personally don't rate them.

- Then take every comment at face value.

- Then see a poster who's agreeing with your viewpoint and become their ultimate fanboy?

Like dude, just say I don't like Player X and want Player C.
 
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160KPH said:
Their whole agenda has been horribly exposed.
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The saya corps is pakistan's Priemere talent agency, falhar being in it and being the reason for selection sends a bad message, because haris would be unselected irrespective of whether he's performing good or bad.

An external talent agency shouldn't decide who enters and who doesn't based of likes and dislikes.

The biggest issue with Pakistan over the past few years has always been this dosti yaari culture and the Tu hai mera match winner meme.
 
Rana said:
Typical hypocrite

This guy made the biggest blunder of his career here with that nonsense of Australia and India. As if Pakistan are supposedly doing the right thing as if these two teams are doing it or are following Pakistan’s pathetic method

I’m going to send this guy back into the lockdown where his ilk emerged from!
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Did he actually claim that? Australia never follows Pakistan's method.

Pakistan isn't even on their radar.

Literally in Australia their biggest compliment to us is we are that minnow team who managed to win CT.

Their fans keep forgetting we're an actual test nation and not classified in the associate status, either that or they view us as a team that is in the same class as Bangladesh or Sri lanka, aka child's play for them.
 
mominsaigol said:
Did he actually claim that? Australia never follows Pakistan's method.

Pakistan isn't even on their radar.

Literally in Australia their biggest compliment to us is we are that minnow team who managed to win CT.

Their fans keep forgetting we're an actual test nation and not classified in the associate status, either that or they view us as a team that is in the same class as Bangladesh or Sri lanka, aka child's play for them.
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Our formula in wc 2023 was literally

Play 6 accumulators at the top( Imam, Abdullah, Babar, Rizwan, Saud, Chacha)

Followed by 2 pseudo allrounders (Shadab and Nawa,) followed by 3 injured and has been pacers.

Who on earth follows that template?
 
Rana said:
What position is Agha going to bat?

Wasim JR was not up to the mark in the PSL. He’s not a reliable bowler
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Agha was good enough to be in the squad if not in the XI. He is your automatic replacement for Iftimania.

Aghamania is our next destination.
 
mominsaigol said:
Did he actually claim that? Australia never follows Pakistan's method.

Pakistan isn't even on their radar.

Literally in Australia their biggest compliment to us is we are that minnow team who managed to win CT.

Their fans keep forgetting we're an actual test nation and not classified in the associate status, either that or they view us as a team that is in the same class as Bangladesh or Sri lanka, aka child's play for them.
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I said that Australia and India have players who play in different positions in franchise cricket than they do in international T20.

That one comment triggered a pretty long meltdown.
 
mominsaigol said:
Did he actually claim that? Australia never follows Pakistan's method.

Pakistan isn't even on their radar.

Literally in Australia their biggest compliment to us is we are that minnow team who managed to win CT.

Their fans keep forgetting we're an actual test nation and not classified in the associate status, either that or they view us as a team that is in the same class as Bangladesh or Sri lanka, aka child's play for them.
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Also the part of them copying us was completely made up.

I just said that Australia and India play players in different positions in intentional cricket than they the spots that those players play in franchise cricket like IPL.
 
160KPH said:
Also the part of them copying us was completely made up.

I just said that Australia and India play players in different positions in intentional cricket than they the spots that those players play in franchise cricket like IPL.
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Fair point, I saw that comment as well,

The issue is Australia and Indian batsmen are flexible and can play in all positions, with the exception of the openers ofcourse and some exceptions like kl Rahul who's better at middle.

Pakistan doesn't have any flexible bats, only ones that came were Umar akmal( We saw how that turned out), Haris (Still not convinced due to poor psl).

Fakhar at no 4 is not and never will be ideal, he is an opener, either drop him or play him at opening.

Saim is an opener and not a lower order batter.

Babar and rizwan are pretenders, not as if they can actually play at no 6/7.

We don't have any Jos butlers In the making who can play from 1 to 7
 
mominsaigol said:
Fair point, I saw that comment as well,

The issue is Australia and Indian batsmen are flexible and can play in all positions, with the exception of the openers ofcourse and some exceptions like kl Rahul who's better at middle.

Pakistan doesn't have any flexible bats, only ones that came were Umar akmal( We saw how that turned out), Haris (Still not convinced due to poor psl).

Fakhar at no 4 is not and never will be ideal, he is an opener, either drop him or play him at opening.

Saim is an opener and not a lower order batter.

Babar and rizwan are pretenders, not as if they can actually play at no 6/7.

We don't have any Jos butlers In the making who can play from 1 to 7
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The argument began though because I would rather have a player play out of the position they play in in franchise cricket rather than play Azam Khan.

I do not think Azam Khan should be in the squad until he can get his fitness sorted out at the very least. Not to mention he has played 8 international matches and not even managed to pass 10 runs a single time.
 
160KPH said:
The argument began though because I would rather have a player play out of the position they play in in franchise cricket rather than play Azam Khan.

I do not think Azam Khan should be in the squad until he can get his fitness sorted out at the very least. Not to mention he has played 8 international matches and not even managed to pass 10 runs a single time.
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Where did azam Khan come from? 😂😂
 
160KPH said:
That’s how the argument began. I said that I would still rather have Haris than Azam Khan in the squad.
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Tbf to Azam he played better in psl then haris did.

My issue is based of what I've noticed, is that dude has ridiculously slow reactions, hence any solid pace bowler or even a spinner who can spin will just get rid of him, He doesn't really have any orthodox shots or even unorthodox ones.

His only style is just swinging when it's in his zone lol.

He's also amongst the worst runners I have ever seen, in psl, he literally got guptill out, it was a clear run, he himself ran mid way but randomly turned around? So he can't communicate clearly or run clearly irrespective of his weight.

Lastly as a keeper, he's just a wall, he can't really dive or jump and save those overhead boundaries like rizwan can. He just stays idol 99% of the time behind the stumps.
 
mominsaigol said:
Tbf to Azam he played better in psl then haris did.

My issue is based of what I've noticed, is that dude has ridiculously slow reactions, hence any solid pace bowler or even a spinner who can spin will just get rid of him, He doesn't really have any orthodox shots or even unorthodox ones.

His only style is just swinging when it's in his zone lol.

He's also amongst the worst runners I have ever seen, in psl, he literally got guptill out, it was a clear run, he himself ran mid way but randomly turned around? So he can't communicate clearly or run clearly irrespective of his weight.

Lastly as a keeper, he's just a wall, he can't really dive or jump and save those overhead boundaries like rizwan can. He just stays idol 99% of the time behind the stumps.
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Basically agree with everything you said but also I think he shouldn’t be selected because what’s the point of having fitness standards if you won’t enforce the fitness standards.

Also Azam Khan has dominated league cricket for a long time, but his results have never transferred over to international cricket.
 
160KPH said:
Also the part of them copying us was completely made up.

I just said that Australia and India play players in different positions in intentional cricket than they the spots that those players play in franchise cricket like IPL.
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Ok good
Now we will open bowling with rizwan and babar azam

And our opening batsmen can be shaheen afridi and naseem shah.

We will also have iftikhar chacha as a wicket keeper
 
160KPH said:
Basically agree with everything you said but also I think he shouldn’t be selected because what’s the point of having fitness standards if you won’t enforce the fitness standards.

Also Azam Khan has dominated league cricket for a long time, but his results have never transferred over to international cricket.
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Their have been overweight players who are goats.

Rohit sharma isn't exactly a fitness freak, and inzimam was chubby.

Problem is azam is obese, he's not overweight. Overweight is slightly > BMI.

Azam is 5'8 130KG, he's entering into Obesity stage 3, he's already on stage 2.

The other 2 I mentioned aren't even close to stage 1, their way way off the spectrum
 
160KPH said:
Basically agree with everything you said but also I think he shouldn’t be selected because what’s the point of having fitness standards if you won’t enforce the fitness standards.

Also Azam Khan has dominated league cricket for a long time, but his results have never transferred over to international cricket.
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League cricket varies. International is top 15 in the country.
 
The whole squad looks fine. Azam did better than haris so he got his chance once again. But can somebody please tell the reason of Haseebullah's selection? WHy not saud? I would have taken Haris for him anyday.
 
emranabbas said:
Ok good
Now we will open bowling with rizwan and babar azam

And our opening batsmen can be shaheen afridi and naseem shah.

We will also have iftikhar chacha as a wicket keeper
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You have to be pretty unaware to think that me saying it’s okay if a #3 batsmen in franchise cricket plays at #4 or #5 in international is the same thing as me saying that Rizwan should be our bowler and Shaheen our opening batsmen.
 
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emranabbas said:
He thinks azam khan is the reason why harris isn't selected in the squad
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Harris is not selected because Rizwan is apparently a better option for top order and powerplay

These fools will continue to ignore the reality of the situation.
 
160KPH said:
You have to be pretty unaware to think that me saying it’s okay if a #3 batsmen in franchise cricket plays at #4 or #5 in international is the same thing as me saying that Rizwan should be our bowler and Shaheen our opening batsmen.
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Well you are unaware who wants an opener to play at number 6 and you are stupid to think anyone can play in any position and no skill sets are required

And your opinion to think harris is better than rizwan and should play ahead of rizwan
 
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gazza619 said:
Saud Shakeel will loose us many games in all formats of the game. You heard it here first. Please save this post.
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Did I say he's going to win us games? No? So what's the point of this reply? I'm telling you at face value what happened with precious agha.
 
mominsaigol said:
Did I say he's going to win us games? No? So what's the point of this reply? I'm telling you at face value what happened with precious agha.
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I know I am not arguing. Just mentioning my gut feeling about this Saud Shakeel
 
Pakistan now must rest Rizwan,Shaheen,Naseem and Shadab the New Zealand team is a C/D Team.
The below team should still win the series 4-1

Babar
Saim Ayub
Usman Khan
Fakhar Zaman
Irfan Khan Niazi
Azam Khan
Imad Wasim
Amir
Wasim Jnr
Abrar Ahmed
Zaman Khan
 
lzKIlPi.jpeg
 
shamaan said:
Pakistan now must rest Rizwan,Shaheen,Naseem and Shadab the New Zealand team is a C/D Team.
The below team should still win the series 4-1

Babar
Saim Ayub
Usman Khan
Fakhar Zaman
Irfan Khan Niazi
Azam Khan
Imad Wasim
Amir
Wasim Jnr
Abrar Ahmed
Zaman Khan
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No please let Babar and Rizwan play. I would rather lose 5-0 with those two playing
 
shamaan said:
Pakistan now must rest Rizwan,Shaheen,Naseem and Shadab the New Zealand team is a C/D Team.
The below team should still win the series 4-1

Babar
Saim Ayub
Usman Khan
Fakhar Zaman
Irfan Khan Niazi
Azam Khan
Imad Wasim
Amir
Wasim Jnr
Abrar Ahmed
Zaman Khan
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even Babar should take a rest... it should be our c/d team vs their c/d team
no point giving newzealand a challenge to improve their game

but it wont happen its an opportunity for Rizwan and Babar to stadpad and inflate their averages then they can say we are number in the world
 
emranabbas said:
even Babar should take a rest... it should be our c/d team vs their c/d team
no point giving newzealand a challenge to improve their game

but it wont happen its an opportunity for Rizwan and Babar to stadpad and inflate their averages then they can say we are number in the world
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Only reason why I say play Babar is because he's captain.
 
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As usual, place is filled with crybabies and whiners but this is a great squad and Pakistan should go into the World Cup as one of the favorites.

Amir, Imad, Saim and Azam have tons of experience playing on those pitches which will be invaluable. I would have liked to see Mohammad Haris still in the squad but he hasn't done his talent justice thus far so it's a fair omission.

Usman Khan can be the final ingredient that creates a world cup winning side. A 30+ averaging middle order batsman who strikes at 145+ is exactly what we needed.

If the world cup was starting tomorrow, this would be my team:

1) Babar (c)
2) Rizwan (wk)
3) Saim
4) Usman
5) Azam/Usama/Abrar/Zaman (Depending on the pitch and the opposition)
6) Iftikhar
7) Imad
8) Shadab
9) Shaheen
10) Naseem
11) Amir

The ATG T20 opening partnership is back, tons of power-hitting to follow them, competent batting until #8 or #9, plenty of spin options and a world class pace attack. Combine all that with the experience of playing in the West Indies and I'm happy with what we have.

India are chokers, England are over the hill, New Zealand are mediocre and South Africa have never been good at this format. The team posing the biggest threat will be the Aussies.
 
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Bilal7 said:
As usual, place is filled with crybabies and whiners but this is a great squad and Pakistan should go into the World Cup as one of the favorites.

Amir, Imad, Saim and Azam have tons of experience playing on those pitches which will be invaluable. I would have liked to see Mohammad Haris still in the squad but he hasn't done his talent justice thus far so it's a fair omission.

Usman Khan can be the final ingredient that creates a world cup winning side. A 30+ averaging middle order batsman who strikes at 145+ is exactly what we needed.

If the world cup was starting tomorrow, this would be my team:

1) Babar (c)
2) Rizwan (wk)
3) Saim
4) Usman
5) Azam/Usama/Abrar/Zaman (Depending on the pitch and the opposition)
6) Iftikhar
7) Imad
8) Shadab
9) Shaheen
10) Naseem
11) Amir

The ATG T20 opening partnership is back, tons of power-hitting to follow them, competent batting until #8 or #9, plenty of spin options and a world class pace attack. Combine all that with the experience of playing in the West Indies and I'm happy with what we have.

India are chokers, England are over the hill, New Zealand are mediocre and South Africa have never been good at this format. The team posing the biggest threat will be the Aussies.
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So same openers who have failed persistently at major events.

Another definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
 
Babar, saim, and Usman make perfect sense up top. Rizwan needs to rest. We need to do something different now. Time is up.
 
Bilal7 said:
As usual, place is filled with crybabies and whiners but this is a great squad and Pakistan should go into the World Cup as one of the favorites.

Amir, Imad, Saim and Azam have tons of experience playing on those pitches which will be invaluable. I would have liked to see Mohammad Haris still in the squad but he hasn't done his talent justice thus far so it's a fair omission.

Usman Khan can be the final ingredient that creates a world cup winning side. A 30+ averaging middle order batsman who strikes at 145+ is exactly what we needed.

If the world cup was starting tomorrow, this would be my team:

1) Babar (c)
2) Rizwan (wk)
3) Saim
4) Usman
5) Azam/Usama/Abrar/Zaman (Depending on the pitch and the opposition)
6) Iftikhar
7) Imad
8) Shadab
9) Shaheen
10) Naseem
11) Amir

The ATG T20 opening partnership is back, tons of power-hitting to follow them, competent batting until #8 or #9, plenty of spin options and a world class pace attack. Combine all that with the experience of playing in the West Indies and I'm happy with what we have.

India are chokers, England are over the hill, New Zealand are mediocre and South Africa have never been good at this format. The team posing the biggest threat will be the Aussies.
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They are an ATG opening pair, in the same way I am the next Bill Gates.
 
Bilal7 said:
As usual, place is filled with crybabies and whiners but this is a great squad and Pakistan should go into the World Cup as one of the favorites.

Amir, Imad, Saim and Azam have tons of experience playing on those pitches which will be invaluable. I would have liked to see Mohammad Haris still in the squad but he hasn't done his talent justice thus far so it's a fair omission.

Usman Khan can be the final ingredient that creates a world cup winning side. A 30+ averaging middle order batsman who strikes at 145+ is exactly what we needed.

If the world cup was starting tomorrow, this would be my team:

1) Babar (c)
2) Rizwan (wk)
3) Saim
4) Usman
5) Azam/Usama/Abrar/Zaman (Depending on the pitch and the opposition)
6) Iftikhar
7) Imad
8) Shadab
9) Shaheen
10) Naseem
11) Amir

The ATG T20 opening partnership is back, tons of power-hitting to follow them, competent batting until #8 or #9, plenty of spin options and a world class pace attack. Combine all that with the experience of playing in the West Indies and I'm happy with what we have.

India are chokers, England are over the hill, New Zealand are mediocre and South Africa have never been good at this format. The team posing the biggest threat will be the Aussies.
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Your optimism is commendable. But after similar proclamations prior to the 2023 World Cup and the subsequent minnow level beatings handed out to PCT, you and your ilk pulled off Houdini act.
Hope you're there till the end, Billu.
 
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