Pakistan, the land of pacers!

[babajee]

Why not post them?

Shaheen - 12
Musa - 7
Arshad - 6

 

[DRsohail]

Only outstanding pacer from India is Mohammad shami.we have none atm but will be n next year if we play test cricket regularly. Bk is mediocre bin Loi and decent in helpful condition.in limited overs stack India has no match for Pakistani fast bowling attack. Even our bench strength is better than most of them except bumrah.

 

[RickyG]

Did you watch the U19 WC?

Are you genuinely posing a question or are you trying to make an argument here? If it's the latter then it's an exceptionally unintelligent argument to make. We're out here discussing bowlers that have actually had a taste of international cricket. Even if I were to entertain this argument then keep in mind that a Pakistani 17 year old pacer is more likely to make his international debut before any of the Indian kids.

 

[DRsohail]

Yea our test bowling is better than Pakistan

ODI bowling is equal to Pakistan though Hassan is the best bowler among them.


This when Pakistan is supposed to be the bowling powerhouse.

How the mighty standards have fallen!

Your odi pacers are not better bro.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Shaheen - 12
Musa - 7
Arshad - 6

So they took 1 wkt more than the Indian top 3 pacers. That makes them better?

Remember that Indian pacers competed with the best bowler of the tournament.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Your odi pacers are not better bro.

Not better. But equal.

 

[Hiraeth]

So they took 1 wkt more than the Indian top 3 pacers. That makes them better?

Remember that Indian pacers competed with the best bowler of the tournament.

They played one more game and had the opportunity to get free wickets against PNG and Zim.

 

[babajee]

So they took 1 wkt more than the Indian top 3 pacers. That makes them better?

Remember that Indian pacers competed with the best bowler of the tournament.

It’s not just about the wickets though. You have to look at the bowlers themselves.

 

[DRsohail]

Not better. But equal.

Not equal.

 

[cricketjoshila]

It’s not just about the wickets though. You have to look at the bowlers themselves.

Abd no one in the world cup said Afridi was any better than Nagarkoti or Mavi. I am not even going into the speeds.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Not equal.

Bumrah Shami Bhuvi are less than Hassan Amir and whoever is no.3.

 

[Hiraeth]

Abd no one in the world cup said Afridi was any better than Nagarkoti or Mavi. I am not even going into the speeds.

And speed is everything. Shaheen and Mavi bowl at the same speeds anyway. Only Nagarkoti is exceptionally quick but couldn’t move the ball an inch.

No commentator was there to compare players nor did they. This argument is very weak.

 

[babajee]

Bumrah Shami Bhuvi are less than Hassan Amir and whoever is no.3.

Stop talking about Shami when he’s not part of ODI team. I could talk about Mohammad Asif in tests etc.

Bumrah, Bhuvi and Pandya is worse than Amir, Hasan, Junaid.

 

[DRsohail]

Bumrah Shami Bhuvi are less than Hassan Amir and whoever is no.3.

Junaid

 

[cricketjoshila]

They played one more game and had the opportunity to get free wickets against PNG and Zim.

They played 1 more game by beating Pakistan.

The best bowler of the tournament was a Indian spinner.


Pakistan played Afghan and Irelan U19.

 

[babajee]

Abd no one in the world cup said Afridi was any better than Nagarkoti or Mavi. I am not even going into the speeds.

Majority of pundits etc are Indian. Cricinfo, Cricbuzz are Indian so will obviously hype up Indian bowlers.

Speeds? LOL. If speeds were the criteria then Umesh and Wahab would be best pacers from Asia.

 

[babajee]

They played 1 more game by beating Pakistan.

The best bowler of the tournament was a Indian spinner.


Pakistan played Afghan and Irelan U19.

The thread is clearly about, pace bowling.

 

[DRsohail]

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] I thought you were one of the top posters from across the border but I don’t know what happened. Do you not know that which pacer is better and if u don’t know then it is not worthy to go for lengthy debate.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Junaid

Bumrah is no.1 Odi bowler and his avg is only 1 point behind Hassan.

Shami is ahead of Amir.

How many odis have junaid played for Pakistan in last 24 months?

 

[Hiraeth]

They played 1 more game by beating Pakistan.

The best bowler of the tournament was a Indian spinner.


Pakistan played Afghan and Irelan U19.

Afghanistan is a strong team, pummeled NZ, Asia champs etc. and Ireland beat Afghanistan— no way are they comparable to Zim and PNG.

 

[babajee]

It’s funny how Indian posters love to bring up U19 world cup, but when we bring up CT they make fun of us.

 

[Hiraeth]

Bumrah is no.1 Odi bowler and his avg is only 1 point behind Hassan.

Shami is ahead of Amir.

How many odis have junaid played for Pakistan in last 24 months?

How many ODI’s has Shami played in the last 6 months?

 

[DRsohail]

Bumrah is no.1 Odi bowler and his avg is only 1 point behind Hassan.

Shami is ahead of Amir.

How many odis have junaid played for Pakistan in last 24 months?

Shami is better than anyone in the world. Ok

 

[cricketjoshila]

D@ cricketjoshila I thought you were one of the top posters from across the border but I don’t know what happened. Do you not know that which pacer is better and if u don’t know then it is not worthy to go for lengthy debate.

Hassan and Bumrah are near equal. Or may be Hassan a hair breadth ahead.

Shami is behind them in ODIs and ahead of anyone in tests from SC.

Amir is after them.

Am i wrong in this assessment?

 

[babajee]

Bumrah is no.1 Odi bowler and his avg is only 1 point behind Hassan.

Shami is ahead of Amir.

How many odis have junaid played for Pakistan in last 24 months?

O bhai let Shami play ODIs before comparing him )

 

[DRsohail]

I can just laugh at some of the arguments.

 

[babajee]

Hassan and Bumrah are near equal. Or may be Hassan a hair breadth ahead.

Shami is behind them in ODIs and ahead of anyone in tests from SC.

Amir is after them.

Am i wrong in this assessment?

Hasan >> Bumrah

Check their stats against non minnows. Hasan leads him by a mile. IIRC Bumrah averages 29 against non minnows whilst Hasan averages ~20. Hasan is a complete bowler anyway.

Come back when Bumrah wins India an ICC tournament.

 

[DRsohail]

Hassan and Bumrah are near equal. Or may be Hassan a hair breadth ahead.

Shami is behind them in ODIs and ahead of anyone in tests from SC.
One of the best all rounder in domestics who can hit it hard d and can also play proper cricketing shots. His bowling is bonus he can be in our team as a pure bat as well. He is nippy,in bowling can swing it. Very very unlucky to be dropped for Rahat Ali.
Amir is after them.

Am i wrong in this assessment?

Even you don’t know what you are saying. For that go to first post where I quoted you.

 

[Hiraeth]

Hassan and Bumrah are near equal. Or may be Hassan a hair breadth ahead.

Shami is behind them in ODIs and ahead of anyone in tests from SC.

Amir is after them.

Am i wrong in this assessment?

No. This is about right.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Shami is better than anyone in the world. Ok

Bhai look at Shamis stats and performances. Far better than Amir.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Even you don’t know what you are saying. For that go to first post where I quoted you.

What happened to my post. What did you quote?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Hasan >> Bumrah

Check their stats against non minnows. Hasan leads him by a mile. IIRC Bumrah averages 29 against non minnows whilst Hasan averages ~20. Hasan is a complete bowler anyway.

Come back when Bumrah wins India an ICC tournament.

Come back when Hassan Ali wins you a test in SA.

 

[HuzaifaE]

I think it's just the cricket culture. We don't find a lengthy well constructed innings as inspiring or captivating as a 90mph+ skillful bowler that can get a ball to tail in and crack some toes.

 

[cricketjoshila]

O bhai let Shami play ODIs before comparing him )

O bhai Shami avgs 25 in odis with 91 wickets to Amirs 29 with 57 wickets.

Use google.

 

[babajee]

Come back when Hassan Ali wins you a test in SA.

Sure. When we compare ODIs you bring in tests )

#IndianLogic

Hasan has won Pakistan a test in WI... come back when Bumrah does

 

[cricketjoshila]

Sure. When we compare ODIs you bring in tests )

#IndianLogic

Hasan has won Pakistan a test in WI... come back when Bumrah does

Unlike Pakistan who won their 1st series in WI, India has won a series in WI way back in 1970s and hasnt lost a test to WI in 15 years.

Lol at comparing WI and SA.

Then again posters like you compare Babar Azam to Kohli.

 

[babajee]

Unlike Pakistan who won their 1st series in WI, India has won a series in WI way back in 1970s and hasnt lost a test to WI in 15 years.

Lol at comparing WI and SA.

Then again posters like you compare Babar Azam to Kohli.

Jai Hind.

India is too good yaar. Bumrah + Shami - best pacers known to mankind.

I get it

 

[Khan12]

Jai Hind.

India is too good yaar. Bumrah + Shami - best pacers known to mankind.

I get it

Stop being rude to unadkat should be there too.

 

[ManFan]

Right now, only Bumrah competes with Pakistani fast bowlers in ODI's.

As far as Tests go, there is not a Pakistani attack at the moment, so to compete it with an Indian one that helped it to win a Test in SA is unfair.

For T20's, once again, Pakistan reigns supreme. India simply lacks a good supporter for Bumrah.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Fazal Mehmood was the first true fast bowler Pakistan produced. Possibly the most influential in their history as well.

No he wasn't.... he was medium fast at best.

Imran Khan is the first out and out quick as well as the most influential bowler and cricketer produced by Pakistan. Cricket changed in pakistan after Imran.

 

[Syed1]

Did you miss Bumrah? And Hasan Ali implies Pakistan is the land of pacers? Then Afghanistan is the land of spinners as well.

You got caught out trying to manipulate the stats to your liking by picking a selective time period. Now you're trying to play that down by saying that this is going bad to worse for him.

Don't butt in and act smart when you don't know what's being talked about. I showed bowling performance of the ENTIRE bowling side for all countries in the last 12 months and Pakistan was on the top of the list for both ODIs and T20s. Lowest average and economy. Doesn't take a genius to see which team has the best bowling. It is your compatriot that manipulated the stats and posted some weird stats in which number sixth on the list was Southee with 40+ average. I didn't even care about what he posted. The most important stat was the one that I posted, bowling averages and economies of all countries in the last 12 months.



I know it is too much to bare for you Indians, but Pakistani bowling is the best in the world in LOI cricket. Deal with it.

 

[Syed1]

I like how the Indians are switching between ODIs and Tests to suit their agenda.... when talking about Bhuv they switch to tests and when talking about Bumrah they switch to LOI


Loser log )

 

[Syed1]

The number 1 ranked odi bowler won't even get on pakistan bench lol

Yes just a couple months back when Hasan was the number one ranked ODI bowler... the rankings were fluke and didn't matter, now all of a sudden they are end-all be-all of everything

 

[kuskash]

[MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION]

Ask Bilal7, Proactive and other Pak fans, they do not even consider Kohli a good batsman, then how is it a great clip. On one side they boast themselves about Kohli's wicket and other side they degrade Kohli's every achievement, need to make up minds.

 

[DRsohail]

Yaar y our indian bros feel uncomfortable when we talk about our good bowling attack.
And remember the best of indian bowling attack is being compared with the weakest of pakistani bowling attack in their history which shows where the level is.
Last month one of the indian poster was saying that india has 2 140kph fast bowler in every first class team but they played 125kph in recent t20 tri series lolz.....the selectors must be dumb then [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] .leave them to be happy with buvi and Ishant,,,,,,

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

There are some universal truths which all need to adhere to:

Indians shouldn't boast about bowling similar to how Pakistanis should never bring up batting!

 

[DRsohail]

Bhai look at Shamis stats and performances. Far better than Amir.

Shami has done nothing in last 2 years in odi.You are dreaming bro.Amir has done well after has comeback in odi and t20.
Indian bowling attack in odi.
Bumrah
buvi
yadav
and the 2nd coming of kapil dev
pak bowling attack in odi.
Hssan lai
Amir
junaid khan
shinwari
Ruman Raees.
Fahim

No indian bowler is better than pakistani in this list.
Hssan>>Bumrah
Aamir>>>>Buvi
Fahim >> kapil dev 2.
Wahab is equal to yadav who is not even playing odi now/.
Now come to the bench strength.
we have Rahat ali
wahab
Ruman or junaid.
Shinwari.
bro be happy what you have because i think it is still the best indian loi attack in last 20 years but still notbetter than pakistani pace attack which shows the standard is very high here.

 

[ego-gambit]

We wipe the floor with your bowling attack in ODIs and T20s. Heck I cannot see a better bowling attack in international cricket than:

Amir
Hasan
Junaid
Fahim
Shadab

Are these players good test bowlers ??Answer is NO why so much chest thumping for
4 over wali fauj

 

[Usman Chadda]

Bumrah is a good bowler but not a genuine wicket-taker like Hasan Ali. I think I posted some stats in the Hasan v Bumrah thread where it showed Hasan had the knack of picking up wickets, while Bumrah is more of a bowler who keeps it tight and picks up a wicket here and there.

Also Hasan absolutely mesmerized the neutrals. I don't think I have seen anyone go gaga for Bumrah, besides Indian fans ofcourse, as they did for Hasan in 2017. Hasan Ali owned 2017 as an LOI bowler, without a shred of doubt.

 

[IAJ]

Don’t know why people are fighting here.

Poor Indians are finally producing some half-decent bowlers so let them enjoy. They are pouring alot of money in their academies to give good facilites to the bowlers and with that money and the biggest pools of players, if they still can not produce good bowlers then as they say «doob marne ka muqaam hai».

 

[Greenstorm]

Our fast bowling regressed under Misbah and Azhar when Anwar ali, Razzaq, Cheema and other trundlers used to bowl with the new ball. We are now regaining quality in fast bowling department with plenty of decent fast bowlers coming up. It is only a matter of time before we will once again become a bowling power house in all three formats.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

[MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION]

When in doubt...

 

[ravisurya]

Pakistan has such amazing talent and it should not be compared to the Indian team or anyone. The bench strength too is incredible to the extent that their can be two international teams from Pakistan right now and atleast 7-8 players can easily replace the players in the Indian team which begs the question as to why India is ranked no.1 where as Pakistan isn’t in the top 5 if I am not wrong. Is it an bccicc conspiracy or the rankings just wrong?

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Pakistan was once a land of great pacers. It still is better than india but is it the criteria? No.
Reality is that pak's last good test bowler was asif and he destroyed himself, so he won't be counted.
In 21st century pak has failed to produce any decent test pace bowler.
In odis hasan looks good, but hes played only 30 matches so can't be considered an atg.
So pak has'nt produced a single odi or test pace bowler of half the caliber of wasim, waqar, imran or even shoaib.
India's test attack is better at the moment, but surely pakistan's loi attack is much better.
So there's nothing to boast about.

 

[daytrader]

So I dug up the bowling stats for the 12 months for our chest thumping friend [MENTION=146612]BlackShadow[/MENTION], these are the stats for ODIs

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And these are the stats for T20s

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Pakistan on top of the pile for bowling average and rpo, the two main bowling statistics.

This.

It's amazing how the neighbours are obsessed with naming and comparing individual bowlers when the point is Pakistan is simply better at bowling. It doesn't matter which bowlers we send out, our bowling unit performs.

 

[IndianFan2018]

Don’t know why people are fighting here.

Poor Indians are finally producing some half-decent bowlers so let them enjoy. They are pouring alot of money in their academies to give good facilites to the bowlers and with that money and the biggest pools of players, if they still can not produce good bowlers then as they say «doob marne ka muqaam hai».

At least India with half decent bowlers (as per your post) doing far better and top ranked in 2 tougher formats

 

[DRsohail]

At least India with half decent bowlers (as per your post) doing far better and top ranked in 2 tougher formats

cricket is a team game.Indian new spinners are awesome plus decent pace attack.But is is always there batting wining them matches.

 

[DRsohail]

This.

It's amazing how the neighbours are obsessed with naming and comparing individual bowlers when the point is Pakistan is simply better at bowling. It doesn't matter which bowlers we send out, our bowling unit performs.

Even Shahin is gonna make the headlines soon but we should not count him now,
I have to see those avesh khan and others to perform for india .

 

[DRsohail]

Pakistan has such amazing talent and it should not be compared to the Indian team or anyone. The bench strength too is incredible to the extent that their can be two international teams from Pakistan right now and atleast 7-8 players can easily replace the players in the Indian team which begs the question as to why India is ranked no.1 where as Pakistan isn’t in the top 5 if I am not wrong. Is it an bccicc conspiracy or the rankings just wrong?

Understand the game of cricket first.ITs always team game.India can send there secodn string batsamn to any country and they will perfrom better than our trash bats.

 

[IndianFan2018]

cricket is a team game.Indian new spinners are awesome plus decent pace attack.But is is always there batting wining them matches.

Agreed, Team Ind's batting has always been it's strength, now bowling also has improved...

'Icing on the Cake !'

 

[ravisurya]

Understand the game of cricket first.ITs always team game.India can send there secodn string batsamn to any country and they will perfrom better than our trash bats.

Exactly. You can have the best pacer, you have the best wicket keeper and the best of everything else but end of the day India is a better cricket team.Glad you accept that fact.

 

[barah_admi]

West Indies?

I don't think so. They had some good fast bowlers around the 50s and 60s, obviously a stream of good ones in the 70s and 80s but they have produced absolute trash since, never really produced a great spinner (I guess GIbbs has a shout) and just don't have the all round bowling ability that Pak and Aus have.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Jai Hind.

India is too good yaar. Bumrah + Shami - best pacers known to mankind.

I get it

Certainly as good as anything Pakistan can field these days.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Don't butt in and act smart when you don't know what's being talked about. I showed bowling performance of the ENTIRE bowling side for all countries in the last 12 months and Pakistan was on the top of the list for both ODIs and T20s. Lowest average and economy. Doesn't take a genius to see which team has the best bowling. It is your compatriot that manipulated the stats and posted some weird stats in which number sixth on the list was Southee with 40+ average. I didn't even care about what he posted. The most important stat was the one that I posted, bowling averages and economies of all countries in the last 12 months.



I know it is too much to bare for you Indians, but Pakistani bowling is the best in the world in LOI cricket. Deal with it.

Pakistani bowling is best in the world only on PP. Rest of the world talks about the Rabadas and Starcs and Cummins etc.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I like how the Indians are switching between ODIs and Tests to suit their agenda.... when talking about Bhuv they switch to tests and when talking about Bumrah they switch to LOI


Loser log )

Loser is the guy who thinks his team has the best attack when that team ranks below 5 in tests and odis.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yaar y our indian bros feel uncomfortable when we talk about our good bowling attack.
And remember the best of indian bowling attack is being compared with the weakest of pakistani bowling attack in their history which shows where the level is.
Last month one of the indian poster was saying that india has 2 140kph fast bowler in every first class team but they played 125kph in recent t20 tri series lolz.....the selectors must be dumb then [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] .leave them to be happy with buvi and Ishant,,,,,,

The last Pakistani fast bowler to take 200 test wicket.


The last Pakistani fast bowler to take 200 ODI wickets.


When you look up those two, you will that there isnt much to talk about Pakistani fast bowling these days. It would be same if Indians would talk about their battimg being better and the best batsman was Shikhar Dhawan.

 

[AssassinatedDevil]

Don't know what the fuss is about. Pakistan has some of the best fast bowlers atm and our fast bowling stocks are aplenty.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Shami has done nothing in last 2 years in odi.You are dreaming bro.Amir has done well after has comeback in odi and t20.
Indian bowling attack in odi.
Bumrah
buvi
yadav
and the 2nd coming of kapil dev
pak bowling attack in odi.
Hssan lai
Amir
junaid khan
shinwari
Ruman Raees.
Fahim

No indian bowler is better than pakistani in this list.
Hssan>>Bumrah
Aamir>>>>Buvi
Fahim >> kapil dev 2.
Wahab is equal to yadav who is not even playing odi now/.
Now come to the bench strength.
we have Rahat ali
wahab
Ruman or junaid.
Shinwari.
bro be happy what you have because i think it is still the best indian loi attack in last 20 years but still notbetter than pakistani pace attack which shows the standard is very high here.

Shami was out injured for 12 plus months and he is being protected to play tests mainly and some ODIs.

And why is this comparision limited to ODIs?Land of pacers doesnt have a test class pacer?

Why is Hassan better than Bumrah? Their Stats are not that far.

Amir better than Bhuvi in which format? Tests Bhuvi is ahead. Odis Amir is ahead.

How is Fahim Ashraf better? There is hardly anything in their ODI stats.

Rahat Ali Shinwari are great bowlers? What have they done actually?

Your bowling attack is good but not exceptional. Indian attack matches it very well esp with our two wrist spinners. The gulf between the teams is evident in the rankings.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Even Shahin is gonna make the headlines soon but we should not count him now,
I have to see those avesh khan and others to perform for india .

Its harder for a pacer to get into Indian team as we play 2 spinners in every format.

 

[babajee]

Shami was out injured for 12 plus months and he is being protected to play tests mainly and some ODIs.

And why is this comparision limited to ODIs?Land of pacers doesnt have a test class pacer?

Why is Hassan better than Bumrah? Their Stats are not that far.

Amir better than Bhuvi in which format? Tests Bhuvi is ahead. Odis Amir is ahead.

How is Fahim Ashraf better? There is hardly anything in their ODI stats.

Rahat Ali Shinwari are great bowlers? What have they done actually?

Your bowling attack is good but not exceptional. Indian attack matches it very well esp with our two wrist spinners. The gulf between the teams is evident in the rankings.

Sometimes you have to use your eyes.

By stats Babar Azam is better than every Indian batsman in ODI and T20 apart from Kohli, and by rankings too.

But you guys won’t accept that!

 

[cricketjoshila]

Don't know what the fuss is about. Pakistan has some of the best fast bowlers atm and our fast bowling stocks are aplenty.

Who is your best test fast bowler?

 

[AssassinatedDevil]

[MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION]

Makes me smile every damn time. Arguably the most important wicket by any bowler in 2017, that too being taken in such an emphatic way. Eveything from Azhar's fumble to Amir's celebration seemed like the work of gods. I don't care if Amir never takes a wicket in cricket ever again. I will always have a soft spot for him because of this magical spell.

 

[babajee]

Who is your best test fast bowler?

We don’t play tests. But by stats it’s Mohammad Abbas who has better stats than any Indian pacer. Stats are stats yaar.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Sometimes you have to use your eyes.

By stats Babar Azam is better than every Indian batsman in ODI and T20 apart from Kohli, and by rankings too.

But you guys won’t accept that!

Remove your green tinted glasses and then use your eyes.

Babbar Azam has very good stats. Only thing is unlike Kohli or Dhoni or Rohit he doesnt have a large sample size to be compared to them.

Hassan and Bumrah has pretty much the same sample size in ODIs.

 

[cricketjoshila]

We don’t play tests. But by stats it’s Mohammad Abbas who has better stats than any Indian pacer. Stats are stats yaar.

You dont play tests? How did you lose to NZ and SL in a series then?

5 test matches isnt a sample. Else Bumrah has better odi avg than 2Ws. Stats are stats yaar.

You claim to have the best fast bowlers and cant name 1 quality test pacer. Lol.

 

[AssassinatedDevil]

Who is your best test fast bowler?

Our new crop of bowlers haven't played as many tests like Wahab and co. did. Doesn't take a genius to figure out that they have the potential to come good in tests as well.

 

[IndianFan2018]

Out new crop of bowlers haven't played as many tests like Wahab and co. did. Doesn't take a genius to figure out that they have the potential to come good in tests as well.

Potential is fine, sometimes potentials turn into Umar Akmals later

On topic, OP heading is not true in Tests as things stand now, that's a FACT

 

[babajee]

You dont play tests? How did you lose to NZ and SL in a series then?

5 test matches isnt a sample. Else Bumrah has better odi avg than 2Ws. Stats are stats yaar.

You claim to have the best fast bowlers and cant name 1 quality test pacer. Lol.

There’s no sample size for any of our upcoming pacer. Like you said there’s no comparison between Babar and Dhoni, Rohit etc. Similarly there’s no comparison between our upcoming pacers and your guys who have been playing together for years.

 

[IndianFan2018]

There’s no sample size for any of our upcoming pacer. Like you said there’s no comparison between Babar and Dhoni, Rohit etc. Similarly there’s no comparison between our upcoming pacers and your guys who have been playing together for years.

Debate settled ... Never to compare Indian batters to Pak ones and vice versa for bowlers never to compare Indian bolwers with Pak ones

 

[DRsohail]

Shami was out injured for 12 plus months and he is being protected to play tests mainly and some ODIs.

And why is this comparision limited to ODIs?Land of pacers doesnt have a test class pacer?

Why is Hassan better than Bumrah? Their Stats are not that far.

Amir better than Bhuvi in which format? Tests Bhuvi is ahead. Odis Amir is ahead.

How is Fahim Ashraf better? There is hardly anything in their ODI stats.

Rahat Ali Shinwari are great bowlers? What have they done actually?

Your bowling attack is good but not exceptional. Indian attack matches it very well esp with our two wrist spinners. The gulf between the teams is evident in the rankings.

Keep changing ur statement. Stats don’t lie bro go and check stats wether bunrahbis better or Hassan. Mine and ur discussions was about odibbowlers but I always mix it up. In tests Indian bowling is better but we have not played enough tests recently.