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Pakistan U19s (263/2) inflict a comprehensive 8-wicket defeat on India U19s (259/9) in the group match of the ACC U-19 Asia Cup 2023

PJL did wonders on the mental aspect of these guys, they played like true professionals without exposing their weaknesses or getting nervous even though there is no outstanding display of talent compare to previous U19 world cups from both sides (apart from Zeeshan from Pak and Sachin and Naman from India ) , Pak team is more well groomed and properly coached this time around and if this trend continues then we might start getting real talent in the next few years.
 
Azan , Shahzaib and Saad are very limited players and they know their limitations but mentally they extremely tough , Shamyl has some swag and some aggressive shots but is too inconsistent and Arafat Minhas also mentally very strong batter , not much to talk about pace bowlers apart from Zeeshan who I think the only player who can play for national side in near future, Pak should take try to find real pacers for the U19 worldcup the current opening pacers are just not exciting enough even though they can move the ball around on helpful conditions
 
zarak said:
Weird. A 6'8 U19 player with a near biomechanically perfect action bowling good gas and shaping the bowl is not special. Not saying the lad will make it huge but he has very impressive ingredients.
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He will become good. I have bo doubt.

Would be good to draft him for odi and t20 asap
 
If really talented 2/3 guys get these sort of coaching then we can really transform our senior side in the next decade.
 
Muhammad Saad said:
PJL did wonders on the mental aspect of these guys, they played like true professionals without exposing their weaknesses or getting nervous even though there is no outstanding display of talent compare to previous U19 world cups from both sides (apart from Zeeshan from Pak and Sachin and Naman from India ) , Pak team is more well groomed and properly coached this time around and if this trend continues then we might start getting real talent in the next few years.
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The best thing PJL gave them was exposure. It was an excellent idea, it was costly but we are paying 3crore to Wahab to do bugger all. What has Wahab done for the tour Australia that 90% of the forum can't do.
 
When a group of adults are beating children in a game, that is not something to be proud of but something to feel ashamed about.

Clearly, we have 2-3 players that are not u 19. One of them is Mohammad Zeeshan
 
Muhammad Saad said:
Azan , Shahzaib and Saad are very limited players and they know their limitations but mentally they extremely tough , Shamyl has some swag and some aggressive shots but is too inconsistent and Arafat Minhas also mentally very strong batter , not much to talk about pace bowlers apart from Zeeshan who I think the only player who can play for national side in near future, Pak should take try to find real pacers for the U19 worldcup the current opening pacers are just not exciting enough even though they can move the ball around on helpful conditions
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Werent you wrist slitting and predicting a pakistan loss for no logical reason. Lol.
 
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Major said:
When a group of adults are beating children in a game, that is not something to be proud of but something to feel ashamed about.

Clearly, we have 2-3 players that are not u 19. One of them is Mohammad Zeeshan
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Can you tell us all the overage players in Pakistan team?
 
Slim said:
You have been talking utter toss. Werent you wrist slitting and predicting a pakistan loss for no logical reason. Lol.
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Didn’t knew Indian team equally bad as ours , no real talent this time around from both teams
 
Muhammad Saad said:
Azan , Shahzaib and Saad are very limited players and they know their limitations but mentally they extremely tough , Shamyl has some swag and some aggressive shots but is too inconsistent and Arafat Minhas also mentally very strong batter , not much to talk about pace bowlers apart from Zeeshan who I think the only player who can play for national side in near future, Pak should take try to find real pacers for the U19 worldcup the current opening pacers are just not exciting enough even though they can move the ball around on helpful conditions
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Limited in what. It's an easy word to throw around. Can you tell us their limitations?
 
And India were playing two u19 teams simultaneously just a month ago against BD and England U19 and they were playing matches on the same day as well
 
PakEngFan said:
Limited in what. It's an easy word to throw around. Can you tell us their limitations?
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They can’t play short balls , can’t play dominating looking shots like Sachin did today and Ofcourse not good against swing and seam but they know how build innings and finish the games
 
FearlessRoar said:
Our U19s pool has immense talent. They have shown it in JPL and are also demonstrating it in the ACC U-19 Asia Cup 2023.
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PJL standard was low to be honest , no real pacers and no spinners who can turn the ball that was the reason batsmen were looking so great.

Each PJL team should had one 135k+ if you want the games to equally competitive between bowler and batsmen
 
kron said:
He will become good. I have bo doubt.

Would be good to draft him for odi and t20 asap
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Oh no please tagging the likes of Hasnain and Waseem Jr with the white ball sides hindered their development in to all round pacers. He needs 2 seasons of red ball cricket before he makes the grade up
 
Muhammad Saad said:
They can’t play short balls , can’t play dominating looking shots like Sachin did today and Ofcourse not good against swing and seam but they know how build innings and finish the games
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So you don't now if they are limited or not when saying not playing dominating shots like sachin. What does that even mean.Can you tell me how many players in Pakistan team are good at the short stuff. Not many in the world can play swing and seam.
 
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The fifth game of ACC U19 Asia Cup saw Pakistan U19 inflict an eight-wicket defeat on India U19 at the ICC Cricket Academy Ground in Dubai. Azan Awais, following an undefeated half-century against Nepal, scored an unbeaten century to take the team over the line while chasing 260.

Pakistan won the toss and elected to field first. Indian opening batter Adarsh Singh hit a half-century (62, 81b, 4x4s, 1x6) to recoup the momentum for his side following the loss of two wickets inside the first 12 overs.

A 93-run stand between the captain Uday Saharan (60, 98b, 5x4s) and Singh helped restore control in the innings.

However, when Singh fell to left-arm spinner Arafat Minhas in the 32nd over, the innings once again faltered. Pressure mounted on the Indian batting as successive wickets fell. A quick half-century by Sachin Dhas (58, 42b, 2x4s, 3x6s) took India U19 to a respectable total as they finished at 259-9 in 50 overs.

The Pakistan pace attack delivered well with right-arm quick Mohammad Zeeshan picking up four wickets, having taken a six-wicket haul in the previous game. His fellow fast bowlers Amir Hassan and Ubaid Shah returned with two each as well.

Pakistan U19 cruised to the target with much ease, doing so in 47 overs and eight wickets in the bag. Despite losing opening batter Shamyl Hussain cheaply in just the fifth over, Pakistan U19 remained in control of the chase.

A 110-run partnership between Shahzaib Khan and Azan Awais ensured that Pakistan U19 dominated the Indian bowling after the first wicket fell. The partnership was broken in the 28th over when Shahzaib was caught off Murugan Abhishek’s bowling, after scoring a half-century (63, 88b, 4x4s, 3x6s).

Pakistan captain Saad Baig, replacing Shahzaib at the crease, produced a quality half-century (68 not out, 51b, 8x4s, 1x6). Azan and Saad put up an undefeated partnership of 125 runs to see Pakistan U19 through.

Azan was the star of the match as his superb century (105 not out, 130b, 10x4s) ensured that Pakistan U19 remain in a commanding position throughout the chase. For his extraordinary batting display, he was awarded player of the match.

Scores in brief:

Pakistan U19 beat India U19 by eight wickets

India U19 259-9, 50 overs (Adarsh Singh 62, Uday Saharan 60, Sachin Dhas 58; Mohammad Zeeshan 4-46, Ubaid Shah 2-49, Amir Hassan 2-56, Arafat Minhas 1-40)

Pakistan U19, 263-2, 47 overs (Azan Awais 105 not out, Saad Baig 68 not out, Shahzaib Khan 63; Murugan Abhishek 2-55)

Player of the match – Azan Awais (Pakistan U19)
 
Pakistan U19 will now face Afghanistan U19 on 12 December at the same venue. The first ball will be bowled at 1030 PKT.
 
Fenrir said:
PJL was a brilliant idea but the idiots who took over PCB scrapped it.
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It was not financially feasible without strong commercial partners.
 
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Slim said:
You were literally calling Afghan and Indian attack better than ours.
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Ofcourse both Naman and Khaleel Ahmed from Afg are quicker than Ubaid and Amir , I don’t rate our opening pacers at all and today they were just helped by the conditions, but sadly both of them are trundlers

Btw Zeeshan after today’s match in an interview to some YouTube channel said that his pace got measured last month and he was bowling between 138-140k. That is some serious heat couple with bounce and swing , hopefully he will get more quicker and stronger
 
Muhammad Saad said:
Ofcourse both Naman and Khaleel Ahmed from Afg are quicker than Ubaid and Amir , I don’t rate our opening pacers at all and today they were just helped by the conditions, but sadly both of them are trundlers

Btw Zeeshan after today’s match in an interview to some YouTube channel said that his pace got measured last month and he was bowling between 138-140k. That is some serious heat couple with bounce and swing , hopefully he will get more quicker and stronger
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You were saying Pakistan will be lucky to cross 180 lol. From what i saw the players in the team look awesome . Talent, mentality and presence on rhe field
 
Mrhandsome said:
You were saying Pakistan will be lucky to cross 180 lol. From what i saw the players in the team look awesome . Talent, mentality and presence on rhe field
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pakistan under 19 team was also strong in past.

But when they become senior, they lost the way.
 
Itachi said:
pakistan under 19 team was also strong in past.

But when they become senior, they lost the way.
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Indian u19 team has historically been better than Pakistani u19 team in recent past. How many of Nagarkoti, Mavi etc. have made it to the playing 11? None.
 
Bewal Express said:
The best thing PJL gave them was exposure. It was an excellent idea, it was costly but we are paying 3crore to Wahab to do bugger all. What has Wahab done for the tour Australia that 90% of the forum can't do.
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He did exactly what Mr PowerPoint did pick domestic performers

Only in the Australian system only follically challenged lallu spinners over 40 yrs old were topping the charts and now this year pacers are.

Under the Australian system and former chairman the Mr smooth operator some of the worst test wickets were prepared .
 
mazkhan said:
He did exactly what Mr PowerPoint did pick domestic performers

Only in the Australian system only follically challenged lallu spinners over 40 yrs old were topping the charts and now this year pacers are.

Under the Australian system and former chairman the Mr smooth operator some of the worst test wickets were prepared .
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The wickets against Aus were no worse than 99% of wickets prepared by PK groundsman. I can only remember decent wickets against SA in 2004. Dont confuse wickets that produce results with good wickets. They are not always the same in PK
 
Itachi said:
pakistan under 19 team was also strong in past.

But when they become senior, they lost the way.
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That's because many were overage playing against u19 players. It's done untold damage to PK cricket because resources are diverted to liars and fakers.
 
Slim said:
Indian u19 team has historically been better than Pakistani u19 team in recent past. How many of Nagarkoti, Mavi etc. have made it to the playing 11? None.
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U19 sport is very overrated. Not just in cricket but in any sport. How many Wimbledon Junior champions go on to win the actual thing ? How many Golden Boy winners go on to win Balon Dor in football ? Last 20 years only Messi did.

In 2008 Virat Kohli won the U19 WC. From that team only Virat & Jadeja made it big !

Take these results with a big pinch of salt. At max 2-3 players from this team will make it big
 
NishanKonar said:
U19 sport is very overrated. Not just in cricket but in any sport. How many Wimbledon Junior champions go on to win the actual thing ? How many Golden Boy winners go on to win Balon Dor in football ? Last 20 years only Messi did.

In 2008 Virat Kohli won the U19 WC. From that team only Virat & Jadeja made it big !

Take these results with a big pinch of salt. At max 2-3 players from this team will make it big
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It’s 2/3 players per u19 worldcup every time and in 6 to 8 years you can transform the senior side
 
NishanKonar said:
U19 sport is very overrated. Not just in cricket but in any sport. How many Wimbledon Junior champions go on to win the actual thing ? How many Golden Boy winners go on to win Balon Dor in football ? Last 20 years only Messi did.

In 2008 Virat Kohli won the U19 WC. From that team only Virat & Jadeja made it big !

Take these results with a big pinch of salt. At max 2-3 players from this team will make it big
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You only need a few to make it big.
 
Muhammad Saad said:
They can’t play short balls , can’t play dominating looking shots like Sachin did today and Ofcourse not good against swing and seam but they know how build innings and finish the games
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What number did Sachin come in at ?
 
Muhammad Saad said:
It’s 2/3 players per u19 worldcup every time and in 6 to 8 years you can transform the senior side
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Yes but u never know which 2-3 players from this team will make it big

Example Ambati Rayudu , Unmukt Chand & Baba Aparajith were highly rated during U19 days but they never delivered at the senior level as per expectations
 
shamaan said:
Provide your proof otherwise no point talking rubbish.
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So you think that our players haven't faked ages. I will mention 3 very famous names.Do i need mention Shahid Afridi, Mohammed Amir is 34, and Shadab is 4 years older than claimed.
 
Bewal Express said:
So you think that our players haven't faked ages. I will mention 3 very famous names.Do i need mention Shahid Afridi, Mohammed Amir is 34, and Shadab is 4 years older than claimed.
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3 names mentioned out of how many cricketers.
 
Good performance from the u19s already said this u19s xi Is decently good.
 
shamaan said:
3 names mentioned out of how many cricketers.
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You asked for names and I gave you a confession. The other 2 are facts and
These are the guys that made it. Are you saying age faking isn't widespread, I got no idea what you are claiming?
 
Bewal Express said:
The best thing PJL gave them was exposure. It was an excellent idea, it was costly but we are paying 3crore to Wahab to do bugger all. What has Wahab done for the tour Australia that 90% of the forum can't do.
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He has done nothing.He is parchi appointment.
 
They were on the right track with the PJL.

4-5 years of that would have built a strong base of prospects but as usual too much turmoil within the management for anything to stick. Long-term investments such as this are always the first to go in Pakistani cricket.
 
great work. this is the only Pakistan and India clash that matters outside of champions trophy.

All other games are meaningless.
 
Lol the PCB and the Franchises are struggling financially with the PSL, the PCB would have drowned with the PJL.

After ten years of marriage a wife would get frustrated if her husband failed to provide her financial security and here the PCB and the franchises cannot do anything to take the main league to the next level.
 
PJL can still exist without foreign players and high payouts just need to hire mentors and 2 national team stars in the playing XI
 
This is not the thread for PJL.

Stick to topic
 
Naseem Shah is speaking words of encouragement for the Pakistan U19s bowlers. And appreciated their performance against India U19s.

 
Muhammad Saad said:
He is specialist captain I think because both his batting and keeping has been awful from every match he has played , actually his captaincy is extremely good from what I observed, always one step ahead of opposition batters.
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Averaging 118 with the bat in the tournament so far. I think he can bat.
 
kron said:
He will become good. I have bo doubt.

Would be good to draft him for odi and t20 asap
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No please. He's too raw. We've made that mistake too many times. Play him now and he'll break down like Naseem did earlier in his career and even now.
 
Slim said:
Indian u19 team has historically been better than Pakistani u19 team in recent past. How many of Nagarkoti, Mavi etc. have made it to the playing 11? None.
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Shubman Gill and Ishan Kishan are from the class of 2020 and are already ODI double-centurians. Gill broke Babar's record for fastest to 2000 ODI runs.

They break into the national squad and make it count.
 
NishanKonar said:
Yes but as a team you cannot make any judgement

Australia rarely wins the U19 WC but look at how they perform in the real WC !
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India also bosses U19 WC's and their senior team is not very shabby either. From the class of 2020, Shubman Gill and Ishan Kishan are already ODI double-centurians and Gill has already broken Babar's ODI record of fastest to 2000 ODI runs.
 
Bewal Express said:
You asked for names and I gave you a confession. The other 2 are facts and
These are the guys that made it. Are you saying age faking isn't widespread, I got no idea what you are claiming?
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I don't think age-faking is as common nowadays. It can't be. They have the science all figured out.

And there's a lot of scrutiny at the very top. You can't get away with it the way you could in Waqar Younis and Shahid Afridi's days.

Looks like PCB has some age test verification process as well.

Speaking of over-age players, why is Shamyl Hussain playing U-19 level when he's already 19 years old?
 
pakdude said:
I don't think age-faking is as common nowadays. It can't be. They have the science all figured out.

And there's a lot of scrutiny at the very top. You can't get away with it the way you could in Waqar Younis and Shahid Afridi's days.

Looks like PCB has some age test verification process as well.

Speaking of over-age players, why is Shamyl Hussain playing U-19 level when he's already 19 years old?
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