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Pakistan v England | 1st Test | Abu Dhabi | Oct 13-17 | Day 5

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makes sense
umpire considered it for caught behind....nothing stupid about the DRS
 
Misbah badly needs some time in the middle. I don't care if he doesn't score a run for the rest of the day. He should try to stay and face any many balls as he can.
 
Come on, Misbah. Fight back hard. Malik didn't score 245 runs to go in vain.

I cannot watch the match furthermore. Weak heart. Too much drama. :sanga
 
These type of decisions will keep BCCI resolute in their anti DRS stance.

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Misbah looks nervous and scratchy like it is an effort to play every delivery. He should retire gracefully at the end of this series.

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This is weird. What would have happened had the ball hit the stumps properly? Would he have been given out even though the umpire said not out and Misbah took the review? That would've been absurd.
 
If Misbah is struggling on this phatta wonder what he will.do on a turner.

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Misbah should do an afridi ..and retire in the middle of the series.

for that he needs to play as disgracefully as afridi did in his last innings.
Funny thing: both his test and odi career ended with a wild slog to midwicket.
 
Hmm so when the bowling side gets a 'not out' and reviews to try and get the decision in their favour it will be reviewed for a potential dismissal on any grounds, but when the batting side reviews against the umpire's specific 'out' decision then different rules apply specific to their 'out' decision which only they know what it was for. Bizarre, and inconsistent to say the least.

That post makes no sense.

Regardless if batting or bowling, if you review a decision, it will be reviewed for ALL possibility of out. The only thing is, for an umpire's call decision. If it was given out for a specific decision, umpires call remains out. If given not out for a specific decision, umpire's call remains not out.

In this case, the umpire gave Misbah CAUGHT out. Clear evidence he was not caught out, so the review is OVERTURNED. Then they check for lbw, which was NOT given, and it was umpire's call, so it is not reversed and still not given LBW.

Was Misbah lucky, yes, but the rule is consistent. DRS was used properly.
 
for that he needs to play as disgracefully as afridi did in his last innings.
Funny thing: both his test and odi career ended with a wild slog to midwicket.

His T20I career will probably end in a similar fashion as well.
 
What a stupid rule. England have every right to be aggrieved.

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Why would they be aggrieved?

The ball was clipping the top and the umpire didn't raise his finger for an lbw which was correct.

It wasn't 3 reds.
 
Some 'brigade' members having a field day after a shock. :)))

Can understand, boys. :srini
 
Poor Rameez, he thinks Yk is fluent on the leg side against pacers
 
This is weird. What would have happened had the ball hit the stumps properly? Would he have been given out even though the umpire said not out and Misbah took the review? That would've been absurd.

That is correct. If the lbw had been clearly out, it would have been given out. But instead of caught out, it would be changed to LBW out.

I wonder if Pakistan would have kept their review in that case, since Misbah technically "won" the review.
 
From supporting Pakistan it has come to hating on players you don't like and promoting mediocrity that you love.
 
Why would they be aggrieved?

The ball was clipping the top and the umpire didn't raise his finger for an lbw which was correct.

It wasn't 3 reds.
Because the umpire never clarified what he gave misbah out for.

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Umpires call is an absolute farce , you have only 4 reviews for the whole innings and only 2 for the first 80 and then we get this stupid umpires call. It should be scrapped off.
 
Younis showing his class against pace. Jimmy cut for 4

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Yoni smashing Jimmy now. His class against pace shining now.

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In my view (not this time) but a similar situation to what just happened leaves potential for umpire bias. The umpire could always say that he raised his finger for whatever 'out' he chooses just so he can either (a) be viewed as making the right decision in the first place and/or (b) favour his preferred team.
 
That post makes no sense.

Regardless if batting or bowling, if you review a decision, it will be reviewed for ALL possibility of out. The only thing is, for an umpire's call decision. If it was given out for a specific decision, umpires call remains out. If given not out for a specific decision, umpire's call remains not out.

In this case, the umpire gave Misbah CAUGHT out. Clear evidence he was not caught out, so the review is OVERTURNED. Then they check for lbw, which was NOT given, and it was umpire's call, so it is not reversed and still not given LBW.

Was Misbah lucky, yes, but the rule is consistent. DRS was used properly.

No, this does not make any sense.

No one asked for the LBW decision to be reviewed. Why was it even looked at in the first place?

If the ball had been hitting the stumps, it would have been given out? So, Misbah takes a review for caught behind and gets given out for being LBW just because he called for the caught behind decision to be reviewed? Makes no sense.

It is a 'decision' review system. There was no decision on the LBW by the umpire. If England wanted to review the LBW decision they should have used their own review. Misbah's review was for caught behind.
 
Because the umpire never clarified what he gave misbah out for.

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There was a pause in his decision and only raised his finger once the catch was completed.

Don't know whether he told them verbally, but he did raise his finger after the catch was completed.
 
A slightly fluky at times, but effective partnership gets them through to tea then, you assume thats nearly it unless there's a few quick wickets straight after tea.
 
for that he needs to play as disgracefully as afridi did in his last innings.
Funny thing: both his test and odi career ended with a wild slog to midwicket.

They should replace the arms aloft celebration on the Haier trophies with a wild slog to midwicket replica. It will be his legacy to cricket.
 
This is why there should not be an "umpires call" grey area. The ball is inside the line or outside the line. It's hitting the wicket or not hitting the wicket. And should have no bearing on whether the batsman is asking for the review because he's been given "out" or whether the fielding captain is asking for the review because the batsman has been given "not out".

The "umpires call" idiotic rule was created just to give some importance to the umpires, to the detriment of the sport itself.
 
Hmm so when the bowling side gets a 'not out' and reviews to try and get the decision in their favour it will be reviewed for a potential dismissal on any grounds, but when the batting side reviews against the umpire's specific 'out' decision then different rules apply specific to their 'out' decision which only they know what it was for. Bizarre, and inconsistent to say the least.

The general rule of thumb is that the on-field umpires gets the top priority for the decision of batsman's dismissal anything else is just distraction even the so-called perfect technology. The on-field umpire is the authority and in-charge, technology is his tool.
 
Imagine if its green pitch!!! We would loose this test by innings

Every non English would lose on a green pitch.

IMAGINE A SPINNING TRACK!!! we could win by an innings.

Stupid logic.
 
They should replace the arms aloft celebration on the Haier trophies with a wild slog to midwicket replica. It will be his legacy to cricket.

yes.....
common consensus here is that t20 career will end the same way as well.
 
No, this does not make any sense.

No one asked for the LBW decision to be reviewed. Why was it even looked at in the first place?

If the ball had been hitting the stumps, it would have been given out? So, Misbah takes a review for caught behind and gets given out for being LBW just because he called for the caught behind decision to be reviewed? Makes no sense.

It is a 'decision' review system. There was no decision on the LBW by the umpire. If England wanted to review the LBW decision they should have used their own review. Misbah's review was for caught behind.

That is not the way DRS works. For your question, if it had been "3 reds" on the LBW, would Misbah be given out LBW? The answer is YES!

The way DRS works is, even if the caught is overturned, they review for ALL possibility of being given out.

You do not have to agree with the system, and you can complain about it. But the bottom line is, this is how it is being used. Misbah could have got the caught overturned, but still be given LBW if he was plumb LBW.
 
I thought we would collapse after Hafeez got out but thankfully Missi and YK's partnership has ensured that the match would most likely be a draw.
 
Team Man should try and make a hundred here, specially if Moeen and Rashid bhais bowl. Even if there is spin, it's still ridiculously slow.
 
I reckon they will go for another hour after tea, and if England have not got bare minimum 6 wickets down, handshake and a draw.
 
Bruce Oxenford immediately told the 3rd umpire he gave it out for caught.

I don't get why we don't get the umpires voice over of a review like we did during the ashes. The commentators agreed with how successful and useful it was and it added a lot of insight.
 
I don't get why we don't get the umpires voice over of a review like we did during the ashes. The commentators agreed with how successful and useful it was and it added a lot of insight.

I agree, we should be allowed to hear the conversation.
 
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