Pakistan v New Zealand | 3rd Test | Nov 26 - Dec 1, 2014 | Sharjah | Day 4

[hur rizvi]

Our cricket will end up like hockey. There is no hope for the future.

Yes it seems like it and whether we accept it or not Playing outside Pakistan is hurting us

 

[Mr Consistent]

Rameez Raja

 

[Mamoon]

Playing in Pakistan won't make a difference, we simply don't have quality players.

 

[NZcricketfan]

Playing in Pakistan won't make a difference, we simply don't have quality players.

Could an issue be too many domestic teams? Dilutes the talent.

 

[Mamoon]

Could an issue be too many domestic teams? Dilutes the talent.

Too many teams, poor pitches, no work ethic and lazy attitudes, nepotism, lack of professionalism etc etc just name it.

The Pakistani culture will never produce a world class team. Maybe fantastic individual cricketers from time to time, but not world class teams.

 

[Mr Consistent]

runs

 

[Friend786]

Playing in Pakistan won't make a difference, we simply don't have quality players.

Can you tell me what is the blue-print to produce quality players in Pakistan? Corruption free board? Sending players overseas to play first class cricket?

 

[aukhan]

Just survive boyz

 

[Mamoon]

Can you tell me what is the blue-print to produce quality players in Pakistan? Corruption free board? Sending players overseas to play first class cricket?

The only problem is with our attitude and mentality. We don't have the right mindset and have wrong priorities.

Our cricket team is just a reflection of our society. We won't have a world class team as long as this country is in turmoil.

 

[Mr Consistent]

review time

 

[Mamoon]

Our batsmen idolize hacks like Afridi.

Our bowlers think pace is everything and don't work on improving their skills like swing and seam.

Fielding is considered a burden.

Tape ball culture.

All these are major factors.

 

[aukhan]

review...Misbah

 

[NZcricketfan]

not out I feel

 

[Mr Consistent]

bach gya yess

 

[aukhan]

Misbah survives

 

[Mamoon]

Misbah doesn't transfer his weight to the toes of his feet when he plays a good length/full delivery which always makes him an LBW candidate against the moving ball.

 

[FamousEleven]

If it was against Pakistani bowler many ppl here would have made threads about ending DRS

 

[NZcricketfan]

I think people are underestimating craig. He gets good drift

 

[Mr Consistent]

good delivery

 

[Friend786]

Our batsmen idolize hacks like Afridi.

Our bowlers think pace is everything and don't work on improving their skills like swing and seam.

Fielding is considered a burden.

Tape ball culture.

All these are major factors.

I guess we'll need IK's naya Pakistan to eradicate all these factors. LOL

 

[Mamoon]

That was out.

 

[Tera Gawaandi]

Poor decision. Thick edge.

 

[Mamoon]

^ Not the time for morals. We have a match to save here.

 

[FamousEleven]

That was out I remember same thing happened in Asia Cup when Ashwin had a thick edge and did not move and Pakistanis saturated to say that it was Big 3 Conspiracy

 

[Sir Alex]

Is there any way to mute this Rameez ?

 

[Mamoon]

Getting caught in two minds is suicidal against spin. Either stay back or get a real good stride and kill the spin.

Sangakkara and Amla are the best example of playing spin in world cricket today. Younis and de Villiers are excellent too but they have their own slightly unorthodox methods which won't work for everyone.

 

[desi_launda]

Time to create "Should Shafiq have walked" thread

 

[NZcricketfan]

Time to create "Should Shafiq have walked" thread

Eh you can't expect a guy to walk when your team is getting destroyed

 

[Sir Alex]

NZ having to take 15 Pakistani wickets is surely going to take this match to the 5th day.

 

[Mamoon]

What a bottler Misbah is.

 

[Mr Consistent]

nowmisbah

 

[FamousEleven]

Out

 

[dhump]

Reading some comments above it sees like this is 5th test Pakistan losing this season.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Baba Ji Goes.......And Pakistan Hopes as well.

 

[Mr Consistent]

very close

 

[desi_launda]

#tuktuk incoming

 

[dhump]

Good on Pakistan not to waste another day.

 

[hur rizvi]

 

[Friend786]

Reading some comments above it sees like this is 5th test Pakistan losing this season.

No , its just exposing our weakness to handle pressure.

 

[Mr Consistent]

5th down

 

[leatherface58]

Craig has 9 in this game! That's Bunuel stuff right there.

 

[hur rizvi]

Reading some comments above it sees like this is 5th test Pakistan losing this season.

It's the margin of defeat which is disheartening

 

[Mamoon]

When the going gets tough, the tough gets going while the bottlers get owned by Joginder Sharma, Sreeshanth, Dernbach and Mark Craig.

 

[Sir Alex]

Why is Misbah acting surprised? That clearly grazed his gloves.

 

[Mr Consistent]

Pakistan's last 10 wickets fell for 102 runs. Their previous 10 had put on 562.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Thank God we don't play more than 3 test per series. Would have ended up Losing the series to SA and NZ here TBH.

 

[FamousEleven]

Misbah has done it many times that there was an edge and he did not move

 

[dhump]

No , its just exposing our weakness to handle pressure.

No team is champion handling pressure Aus got white washed by our team India got it in England with much better team Eng got it in Aus. Every single team in the world have a bad match no need to kill past and future for this.

 

[Mr Consistent]

seems like Pak team is the most affected side after Hughes incident

 

[Mamoon]

I hope people stop bleating about the lack of Tests now.

Our best hope is winning the first 1-2 Tests of the series before the other finds its feet and demolishes up.

We should only play 2 Tests in the UAE.

 

[Friend786]

So i guess this was Misbah's last test innings. Farewell Legend

 

[Mr Consistent]

sarfraz off the mark

 

[Aman]

McCullum has to be the MOTM.

 

[hur rizvi]

Sarfraz should play his natural game, better have some entertainment, before the game is over

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Need a Chotoo and Sir Faraz Special here to save face at least.

 

[Aman]

Hafeez MOTS.

 

[hur rizvi]

McCullum has to be the MOTM.

Agree, that was a wonderful knock

 

[dhump]

I hope [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] dont have a gun around him somewhere.

 

[Tera Gawaandi]

2 Test match series win are kinda fluke, no time for touring team to adapt and adjust. See NZ's comeback in 3rd Test.

 

[NZcricketfan]

McCullum has to be the MOTM.

Craig for me. Changed the whole momentum of the match

 

[Friend786]

No team is champion handling pressure Aus got white washed by our team India got it in England with much better team Eng got it in Aus. Every single team in the world have a bad match no need to kill past and future for this.

But no team will loose by an innings after beating the crap out these teams in the same season and in the same conditions.

 

[hur rizvi]

Hafeez MOTS.

I might be tempted to go with LAtham

 

[dhump]

Hafeez MOTS.

Both (mac and hafeez) seems to be the players effected most by death of Hughes.

 

[Mamoon]

I hope [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] dont have a gun around him somewhere.

Shoot myself or someone else?

 

[dhump]

But no team will loose by an innings after beating the crap out these teams in the same season and in the same conditions.

This is how Pakistan is since ages nothing new about it.

 

[Aman]

Craig for me. Changed the whole momentum of the match

Craigs were cheap wickets im, but it was McCullum who actually won us the game by setting the tone for the batsmen.

 

[Mamoon]

All my predictions for the Australian series came true for the NZ series.

 

[dhump]

Shoot myself or someone else?

I am just scared of everything lets just keep the guns away for next 24 hours.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Mark Craig has the 3rd best figures for a NZ bowler ever in Test History - Congratulations guys, after Marcus North, Robin Peterson, Imran Tahir and Paul Harris we can surely add Mark Craig to that esteemed list. Always wanted my signature to be an anti jinx what disappointment indeed

 

[NZcricketfan]

Mark Craig has the 3rd best figures for a NZ bowler ever in Test History - Congratulations guys, after Marcus North, Robin Peterson, Imran Tahir and Paul Harris we can surely add Mark Craig to that esteemed list. Always wanted my signature to be an anti jinx what disappointment indeed

Against Pakistan.

Hadlee got like 15 wickets in a match

 

[hur rizvi]

All my predictions for the Australian series came true for the NZ series.

Nz are much more suited to sub-continental conditions

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Against Pakistan.

Hadlee got like 15 wickets in a match

?? The context is different here mate, Hadlee was a gun bowler in itself.

 

[Aman]

So proud of how the boys have performed in the last 2 Tests

 

[Mr Consistent]

Boundary from Sarfraz

 

[Mr Consistent]

power stroke

 

[dhump]

On the bright side we may never see Shan and Talha playing for Pakistan so good news if you really see.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Interesting point by Baxid. Pak spinners were bowling into the wicket at Dubai and Abu Dhabi but on a wicket where they needed to flight it, craig performed better. Great batting by sarfraz now.

 

[Mr Consistent]

15 runs from the over

 

[leatherface58]

Sarfraz looking dangerous.

 

[Friend786]

This is how Pakistan is since ages nothing new about it.

Yeah. Nothing has changed , thats the concern that we can't perform consistently even after winning so comfortably in these conditions.