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Pakistan vs South Africa | 2nd Test | Lahore | 10/10/07 | Day 3

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kashif77 said:
rehman vs kaneria ...

i think rehman is def winning in this series !

Kaneria was magnificent in the first innings
 
hasbeen said:
or inzamam's pep talk about how he only needs 6 runs, doesnt matter about winning boys. inshallah i will make 6 runs.

only if it is in his kismat
 
lol - wat are the feilding placings like? anything to help the spinnes try and take wickets?
 
Hash said:
only if it is in his kismat

kismat can only take you to so much. if your a washed up hasbeen, then kismat cant help you make a 100 and so on. lets just hope he makes his 6 runs so he doesnt have to say im fit for the first test of the next series and jeapodise the team's progression any further.
 
hasbeen said:
kismat can only take you to so much. if your a washed up hasbeen, then kismat cant help you make a 100 and so on. lets just hope he makes his 6 runs so he doesnt have to say im fit for the first test of the next series and jeapodise the team's progression any further.
but who does he get replaced with? faisal iqbal? its not like Hasan Raza, Bazid Khan, or Fawad Alam are coming into the squad!
 
Hash said:
Kaneria was magnificent in the first innings

yeah and rehman could have been more brilliant if he actually got a real chance to bowl !!

malik clearly under inzi's misguided influence in under-bowling rehman !
 
sounds like the close in feilders need to get closer...edges keep dropping short according to cricinfo.
 
Come on Pakistan! Make it worth my while for not sleeping after Sehri and pick up some DAMN wickets.
 
KA$H said:
sounds like the close in feilders need to get closer...edges keep dropping short according to cricinfo.
Yes, tehre have been 2 so far.
 
iZeeshan said:
but who does he get replaced with? faisal iqbal? its not like Hasan Raza, Bazid Khan, or Fawad Alam are coming into the squad!


its besides the point. The reason he was selected was so he could get the records, not because he still has the potential to play a match winning innings. im pisssed because of the way he got selected and his reasons. totally selfish
 
Can't see us getting any close unless we pick up 2 wickets in the next 30 minutes.
 
Is it compulsory for female fans to be chewing gum for 6 hours solid??

Really bugging me!!!
 
iZeeshan said:
wait shudnt they be fasting?
I dont think anyone really bothers in Pak - from what my cousin in Pak tells me - none of her college class fellows do.

Used to be stigma attached to openly flaunt not fasting - no longer the case I think.
 
iZeeshan said:
wait shudnt they be fasting?

i never understood how chewing gum .. getting injections or other stuff like that breaks a fast !
 
Oxy said:
I dont think anyone really bothers in Pak - from what my cousin in Pak tells me - none of her college class fellows do.

Used to be stigma attached to openly flaunt not fasting - no longer the case I think.
Are you serious? Wow, what is wrong with Pakistanis!
 
kashif77 said:
i never understood how chewing gum .. getting injections or other stuff like that breaks a fast !
Chewing gum = extra, unnecessary, SWEETENED saliva = swallowed something with flavor = breaks fast

Dunno abt injections
 
kashif77 said:
i never understood how chewing gum .. getting injections or other stuff like that breaks a fast !

Chewing gum? Your swallowing all the juice. Injections are permissible, as is giving samples of blood etc.

However having glucose injections to get some sugar into the sysytem to counter fatigue might not be wise :)
 
credit where credits due: great concentration shown by the saffie batsmen here
 
Are we really this bad? I mean, our bowling attack isn't terrible, and our batting should have scored AT LEAST 400 with I Younis, Yousuf, Inzi, Misbah, AND Malik! How can not even ONE of them stick around? HOW?
 
iZeeshan said:
Are we really this bad? I mean, our bowling attack isn't terrible, and our batting should have scored AT LEAST 400 with I Younis, Yousuf, Inzi, Misbah, AND Malik! How can not even ONE of them stick around? HOW?


stages of grieving -


* Denial (this isn't happening to me!) <----- most pak fans at this point currently
* Anger (why is this happening to me?)
* Bargaining (I promise I'll be a better person if...)
* Depression (I don't care anymore)
* Acceptance (I'm ready for whatever comes)
 
kashif77 said:
stages of grieving -


* Denial (this isn't happening to me!) <----- most pak fans at this point currently
* Anger (why is this happening to me?)
* Bargaining (I promise I'll be a better person if...)
* Depression (I don't care anymore)
* Acceptance (I'm ready for whatever comes)

I am and prolly will always be at the Anger stage.
 
iZeeshan said:
I am and prolly will always be at the Anger stage.


LOL ... it's hard not to be as a pak cricket fan ... although i'm not as i had low expectations just coming into this series.

pcb got too 20/20 crazy and we lost focus on real cricket.
 
iZeeshan said:
Are we really this bad? I mean, our bowling attack isn't terrible, and our batting should have scored AT LEAST 400 with I Younis, Yousuf, Inzi, Misbah, AND Malik! How can not even ONE of them stick around? HOW?


Maybe they are not all that good as you think? I mean it is all good scoring record amount of runs in a year like Moyo did against the Indian trundlers or even bangladeshi ones and also against a pretty terrible touring English side on Romalli_roti type wickets, but when you come up against quality opposition they get found out..
 
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danish is so not effective...compare him to Harris....harris seems unplayable...n kaneria is being played around like an innocent girl...
 
Well, I mean, lets just hope the FIVE can some how last us through 4 sessions of cricket tomorrow and on Day 5 for a draw.

Anything is better then a 2-0 loss.
 
UsmanhailsAfridi said:
danish is so not effective...compare him to Harris....harris seems unplayable...n kaneria is being played around like an innocent girl...

maybe because harris and kaneria are bowling to batsmen of different class
 
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

SA continuing the fabulous run rate of their first innings
 
Oxy said:
Chewing gum? Your swallowing all the juice. Injections are permissible, as is giving samples of blood etc.

However having glucose injections to get some sugar into the sysytem to counter fatigue might not be wise :)

The other thing you guys are forgetting, she's woman.... perhaps it's the time of month thing that prevents her from fasting... plus chewing gum makes you look really cool and makes you feel like a celebrity especially when you have shades on and the camera comes on you :11:
 
oh come on......she isn't fasting, just get over it. Who cares!
 
The only SA batsman in our class is Amla, we should try take him straight away...
 
Hash said:
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

SA continuing the fabulous run rate of their first innings

who can blame them? why should they throw away all the free gifts that pakistan handed to them on a plate. as long as they get the series victory thats all that matters whather its 1-0 or 2-0. its up to pakistan to get them out or make them play rash shots
 
hasbeen said:
who can blame them? why should they throw away all the free gifts that pakistan handed to them on a plate. as long as they get the series victory thats all that matters whather its 1-0 or 2-0. its up to pakistan to get them out or make them play rash shots


If the roles were reversed there would be people making threads about 'negativity, defensive tactics, how can we be the best team when we don't have killer instinct?, Malik is scared, bla bla bla'

I remember in the England series 2005 in the 3rd test people were bashing Pakistan for not trying to win and playing for the draw (in the end they were made to shut it, ofcourse).
 
Hash said:
If the roles were reversed there would be people making threads about 'negativity, defensive tactics, how can we be the best team when we don't have killer instinct?, Malik is scared, bla bla bla'

I remember in the England series 2005 in the 3rd test people were bashing Pakistan for not trying to win and playing for the draw (in the end they were made to shut it, ofcourse).

well i agree with you there then if that was the case. the most important thing is a series win especially since they aint done it before on sub continent and also the scare they got in the last test with the younis hundred
 
The saffies are actually making me sleepy here

Im heading off for a nap.

catch you later ladies.
 
The fielding placement when after tea were quite poor from Malik. Spinners barely had any close in fielders to put pressure on SA batsman who are quite happy to take singles with the odd boundary till mid-lunch tommorow & than send Pakistan in. The most disappointing factor is that no one is aiding Malik with his mistakes, knowing that 1 captain & 2 vice captain are playing aside him (Inzi, Moyo, Younis)!
 
deviously~fading~away said:
The most disappointing factor is that no one is aiding Malik with his mistakes, knowing that 1 captain & 2 vice captain are playing aside him (Inzi, Moyo, Younis)!

Actually - that is probably a concious attempt to let the new man do his own thing. The moment Inzi goes near Malik and 'offers advice' - it will latched upon by 'non-Inzi likers anymore' and used against him.

Butt is the VC - let him do his stuff
 
deviously~fading~away said:
The fielding placement when after tea were quite poor from Malik. Spinners barely had any close in fielders to put pressure on SA batsman who are quite happy to take singles with the odd boundary till mid-lunch tommorow & than send Pakistan in. The most disappointing factor is that no one is aiding Malik with his mistakes, knowing that 1 captain & 2 vice captain are playing aside him (Inzi, Moyo, Younis)!

Damned if you do damned if you don't.
The think-tank of Butt (?) and Malik need to earn their corn.
 
Oxy said:
Actually - that is probably a concious attempt to let the new man do his own thing. The moment Inzi goes near Malik and 'offers advice' - it will latched upon by 'non-Inzi likers anymore' and used against him.

Butt is the VC - let him do his stuff
So what if the 'non-Inzi likers' go after Inzi? What is more important winning a test match or worring that some posters on a website know as PP might take a mickery out of Inzi for aiding Malik? And its not like the 'haters' need a reason to hate someone. Just like the 'non-afridi likers' were on afridi's case for helping malik during the abu dhabi & T20 series. They went quite once Pakistan beat Sri Lanka & reached the final of T20 cup. Inzi, Moyo & Younis need to chip in but i guess its a bit too late now.

As far as Butt goes the whole problem is that the stuff he is doing is....nothing! Still don't know why he is the vc!
 
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How can we possibly draw the series now?! South Africa have just run away from us like a train today. A series defeat at home to South Africa is embarrassing to say the least (that too by a comprehensive margin of 2-0)!
 
154-2 at the end of the day, lead of 305. Pakistan need to skittle out SA during the 1st session or early 2nd session but that is extremely (and i stress on the word) unlikely. Otherwise Pakistan are looking down & will 'try' to draw the match hence lossing the series. For all the Inzi lovers out there lets hope he gets his 6 runs so that we all can celebrate that great achievement & look towards the future (Asim Kamal anyone)!
 
Oxy said:
What I dont understand is when you guys slit your wrists....why you have to come back when all is well.

Glory fans.

Only sing when you are winning.

Pathetic really.

Its you guys that are the real CHOKERS - first sign of pressure and you lose it.

Part time fans

Hear, hear.

Some 'fans' don't seem to realize that pressure and stress test them as much as they do their players. In short, they show the same weaknesses- lack of spine, application, grit- that they accuse their players of having.
 
Can the combo of Inzi, Moyo, and Younis do it for Pakistan as they will bat together for the last time. These three players have been the key to Pakistan's success for the last 5-6 years.

There would be some pressure on Misbah as well. He has got starts but failed to get a big one. This is his chance to ensure his place in the test and ODI squads for future series.
 
South Africa are already leading by 300. It will take something very special from our bowlers and an incredible collapse to get back into the match tomorrow. Otherwise we'll be chasing somewhere around 500 on Days 4 and 5
 
the true passionist said:
Can the combo of Inzi, Moyo, and Younis do it for Pakistan as they will bat together for the last time. These three players have been the key to Pakistan's success for the last 5-6 years.

There would be some pressure on Misbah as well. He has got starts but failed to get a big one. This is his chance to ensure his place in the test and ODI squads for future series.
knowing the way PCb have been selecting squads so far, misbah's placed is already ensured.
 
Fans should get paid for rising at 6am and be treated to such garbage by our players!.It was a completely lacklustre performance by our so-called strong batting line up being outplayed by a more determined team and better overall unit.Can't see us winning this one so on to the onedayers.
 
I do promise to read the whole thread, to capture the cyber atmosphere of the game but before I do, one quick question: are we crap at Tests? Or are SA playing really, really good?
 
It was a painfully depressing day of cricket for Pakistan.

We are not crap....we are very good. We are just playing crap at the moment, and South Africa are taking advantage of our present crapness.
 
Hash said:
It was a painfully depressing day of cricket for Pakistan.

We are not crap....we are very good. We are just playing crap at the moment, and South Africa are taking advantage of our present crapness.


Thank you, Hash.
 
well i agree with you there then if that was the case. the most important thing is a series win especially since they aint done it before on sub continent and also the scare they got in the last test with the younis hundred

Actually its hardly the first time , we have beaten indian , pakistan and sri lanka (and bangladesh) on the sub continent .
 
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