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Pakistan vs South Africa | 2nd Test | Lahore | 12/10/07 | Day 5

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220 runs in last two sessions of a test match match at 5.4 runs an over? It is very easy for a bowling side to prevent this. Saffers can slow the rate any time. At the moment, the Saffers are still attacking for the win it seems. If we get a draw it is a good effort. And we should now get the draw. Anyone thinking of a win is deluding themselves. This would be hard in an odi. But a test match? No fielding restrictions. No wides. Older ball. No chance.
 
They don't seem to have any desire to win, but I suppose a draw is a good result for us, looking at the bigger picture
 
Hash said:
They don't seem to have any desire to win, but I suppose a draw is a good result for us, looking at the bigger picture

The thing, I don't understand is that.....why they did not even try ONCE to press the gas!!
 
forget the draw.... just go for a win... what good is a draw ?

the bigger picture will show a defeat in the series anyway.... At least we should be trying.... to WIN
 
Atleast take a chance if you loose 2 quick wickets then you always go back to your defensive mode.
 
Hash said:
They don't seem to have any desire to win, but I suppose a draw is a good result for us, looking at the bigger picture

A draw is good but we should at least try to reach the score, and if we lose wickets we can go back to this mode. But not trying at all is not worth it. It's a series loss.
 
i have jus got my first chance of watching this test match. Am i missing something? why aren't they trying for a win?
 
Xoib said:
Atleast take a chance if you loose 2 quick wickets then you always go back to your defensive mode.

exactly. Maybe attack from one end perhaps?
 
look guys stop deluding yourselves!

quit panicking and enjoy the ride
 
they will bat till 30 overs to assure the draw...if they dont lose wickets I suppose they will try and go for it then ...
 
Xoib said:
Atleast take a chance if you loose 2 quick wickets then you always go back to your defensive mode.

The thing is when we lose 2 wickets, the remainder fall down like dominos!
 
the thing is these guys are perfect at putting teh field under pressure with their runnig beteen the wickets

totally not worried with them at teh crease - irrespective of reqd run rtae
 
err.Pakistan have played well for a draw...might lose if they push for a victory...but that fine..series is gone anyway..might as well try and save it
 
this is teh beauty of test cricket - games within games

will pak try to get the push on to force smith to take teh new ball? hence neutralise harris factor for at least 10 overs with potential for some quick runs against teh pacers?

or will pak sit back and continue in teh same vein
 
W63L35 said:
213 runs needed in 38 overs at 5.61 R/O

This is close to impossible on a 5th day wicket. More possible is Pakistan getting out trying it.
 
kallis really does get swing out of nothin with that sideon action of his - very accurate so far
 
younis and yousuf building a partnership in a test match. Isn't that a sight for sore eyes.
 
I think if a wicket falls they will shut up shop. Required rate is up to nearly 6 but weve still got some big guns to come with Inzi, Misbah and Malik

lets hope its not 6 required off 4 with misbah at the crease!
 
kasoo10 said:
I respect your immotions but this is no india-Pakistan match. And, this is not the fable Indian bowling attack of 1978.

To be honest....what I have seen/read about Bedi was about 1000 times better spinner that Harris! The biggest difference is that we don't have Javid, Asif, Majid and Imran here! :P
 
W63L35 said:
To be honest....what I have seen/read about Bedi was about 1000 times better spinner that Harris! The biggest difference is that we don't have Javid, Asif, Majid and Imran here! :P


with respect the biggest difference is that those matches were chasing under 200 runs not 450 like us
 
KA$H said:
with respect the biggest difference is that those matches were chasing under 200 runs not 450 like us

199 to win....we are already under 200!! :)
 
W63L35 said:
To be honest....what I have seen/read about Bedi was about 1000 times better spinner that Harris! The biggest difference is that we don't have Javid, Asif, Majid and Imran here! :P

True. Batting lineup in hand is much more capable of achieveing it but their confidence is very shaken at the moment, considering what has happened in recent past. Remember 3 big guns were not there in T20.
 
It's Harris who is doing the damage to our run-rate by bowling over the wicket and stopping SA from taking the new ball. Wish we could take him out of the game some way;)
 
Saffers are not nervous at all.... they have contained them with Harris... We need to start attack more.... We can do it.... we need luck and someone to play an inningsa of a lifetime
 
I would imagine runs are hard to score on the wicket. Pakistan are struggling to keep pace. Instead of being critical, I think we need to understand that a 5th day wicket is not conducive to fast scoring rates. They have a spinner bowling on a wearing wicket. What do you expect? Some slogging?? It'sa test match. Simply change your expectations. We will draw the game. A series defeat - but then you can't expect more chasing 450.
 
if were going to draw then its a loss series anyhow..with wickets in hand we should fight all the way.
 
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