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Pakistan warns of "Serious Consequences" after Iran attacks Balochi bases

Will the latest military tension between Pakistan and Iran lead to an all out war?

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Jaish al-Adl Says It Killed IRGC Commander On Pakistan-Iran Border

IRGC Colonel Hossein-Ali Javdanfar has been killed after armed men opened fire on the car near the Pakistan border where tensions are rising since Iran launched an attack on Baluch outposts on Tuesday night.

The IRGC Ground Force’s Quds Base issued a statement identifying Javdanfar, saying he had been on a mission related to cultural activities and projects in Saravan County. Jaish al-Adl Sunni militant group has claimed responsibility for his killing, adding that two of his "bodyguards" were also killed by their forces.

The incident occurred a day after the IRGC conducted a missile and drone strike in Pakistan against the Sunni militant group.

In response, Pakistan denounced the attack as "illegal" and "completely unacceptable," claiming casualties, including the death of two children, and warning of "serious consequences."

Jaish al-Adl confirmed the strikes, stating that two of its members' homes were hit, killing two children and injuring two women and a teenage girl.

Founded in 2012, the group operates primarily in Pakistan, and Iran has previously faced border clashes with them. Despite occasional difficulties, Iran and Pakistan maintain functional relations, but the missile-and-drone attack on Pakistan is unprecedented.
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Jaish al-Adl Says It Killed IRGC Commander On Pakistan-Iran Border

IRGC Colonel Hossein-Ali Javdanfar has been killed after armed men opened fire on the car near the Pakistan border where tensions are rising since Iran launched an attack on Baluch outposts on Tuesday night.
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This is getting pretty serious now. Iran started it though but this is not going to end well for many countries surrounding the 2 parties involved.
 
Looks like Baloch separatists are wrecked on both sides of the border. Pakistan and Iran doing each a favour
 
Everyone is aware that Iran is now fighting a proxy war against Israel and supporting Hamas and the Yemeni Houthis. While Israel has the military support of U.S and U.K, none of the other Arab nations have a proper army or intentions of attacking Israel. Maybe Iran wants Pakistan the only Muslim country with a reputed and organized army to get involved into this conflict. There is a possibility that this conflict is going to spread further if Israel attacks Lebanon and then Syria.
From my limited knowledge I guess during the World War II, Germany deliberately attacked some of its neighbours with the intention of involving then into its war.
Just my opinion.
 
After US and India, Iran has sabotaged sovereignty of Pakistan by firing missiles on Pakistan.
 
This has escalated quickly. How many parallel conflicts is the world witnessing right now, unbelievable.
 
There is a possibility that the Pakistani establishment has taken a leaf out of Modi's book and purposely facilitated this to up their popularity ahead of the upcoming elections whose result they have already penned down.

Await a patriotic song to follow.

Otherwise - Iran attacking Pakistan is so random. It's like Myanmar firing missiles into India.
 
To an outsider, it does seem like Pakistan's fighting a proxy battle for the US. The powers that be in the US want Iran's attention distracted to give Israel a more free hand in Gaza.

This feels like a nice low level conflict that will keep the Iranian public furious and Iranian leaders engaged so they'll step back from their support to other non-state actors.

A strong clue will be if the next big IMF program for Pakistan sails through much smoother than the last one and some big arms purchases from the States get approved easily.
 
Who Stands Where: What US, China, India Said On Iran-Pak Airstrikes

At least 11 people have been killed after Iran and Pakistan traded airstrikes this week, signalling a worrying escalation of tension and armed conflict in a Middle East already wracked by violence and bloodshed, after Israel's war on Gaza and attacks by Tehran-backed Houthi militia - who claim to be acting in solidarity with the Palestinians besieged by Tel Aviv - on commercial ships in the Red Sea.

Nine deaths, including those of four children, were reported from Iran Thursday and two, both children, from Pakistan the day before, after each nation said it had struck "terror groups". Tehran said it targeted camps run by "terrorist group" Jaish al-Adl, and Islamabad said it had attacked Pakistani-origin terror groups in Baluchistan province along the shared border between the nations.

Apart from its strike on Pakistan, Iran also unleased missile-and-drone attacks on neighbouring Iraq and Syria, drawing sharp remarks by the United States, which conducted a fourth round of strikes of its own against Houthi targets in Yemen. Pentagon officials indicated Wednesday night that Houthi missile stocks - that could have been used to target shipping routes in the Red Sea - were destroyed.

China and India also released statements on the flurry of airstrikes by Iran, with Beijing calling for "restraint" from both sides and New Delhi distancing itself from "a matter between Iran and Pakistan". The Indian Foreign Ministry also said it "understand(s) actions countries take in self-defence".

What Have Iran, Pakistan Said?

After this morning's strikes, Islamabad said "specifically targeted precision military strikes against terrorist hideouts" - an op codenamed 'Marg Bar Samachar' - killed a "number of terrorists".

Explaining its actions, Islamabad said it had previously "consistently shared its serious concerns about safe havens and sanctuaries enjoyed by Pak-origin terrorists... in ungoverned spaces inside Iran".

"However, because of a lack of action... these (terrorists) continue to spill the blood of innocent Pakistanis with impunity," it said, adding, "... in light of credible intelligence of impending attack".

On Wednesday Pakistan recalled its top diplomat from Iran, and expelled Tehran's counterpart.

The Iranian Foreign Minister, Hossein Amir-Abdollahiah, speaking on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum in Davos, said yesterday his country had targeted an "Iranian terrorist group", and that "none of the nationals of the friendly and brotherly country of Pakistan were targeted..."

Both sides have exchanged affirmations of "brotherly" friendship, leaving some hope on the table that this conflict, at least, can be resolved swiftly and without any further bloodshed.

What Have The US, China, And India Said?

The US' State Department has criticised Iran for violating the sovereign borders of three nations in 48 hours. Washington is currently leading strikes against Houthi militants in the Red Sea region, who are widely seen as backed by Tehran and who have been designated "global terrorists" by the US.

"I think it is a little rich... on one hand Iran (is) the leading funder of terrorism in the region, and, on the other hand, (it claims) it needs to take these actions to counter terrorism," State Department spokesman Matthew Miller told reporters.

Beijing has taken a more neutral position. Foreign Ministry spokesperson Mao Ning told reporters, "We call on the two sides to avoid actions that escalate tension, and jointly keep the region peaceful."

China is, perhaps, in a difficult position at this junction, given its close ties to Pakistan and the fact it imports a significant amount of oil from Iran.

New Delhi, meanwhile, has underlined its "zero tolerance" stance towards terrorism, but has also said it understands "actions that countries take in their self-defence".

"This is a matter between Iran and Pakistan. Insofar as India is concerned, we have an uncompromising zero tolerance towards terrorism. We understand actions that countries take in their self-defence," Foreign Ministry spokesperson Randhir Jaiswal told a press briefing.
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PM Kakar, FM to cut short Davos visit amid escalating tensions with Iran

Caretaker Prime Minister Anwaarul Haq Kakar will be cutting short his visit to Davos for the 54th Annual Meeting of the World Economic Forum (WEF) amidst cross-border intrusions and heightened regional tension between Pakistan and Iran, it was reported on Thursday.

Foreign Minister Jalil Abbas Jilani, leading the Pakistan delegation to the Ministerial Meeting of the Non-Aligned Movement in Kampala, Uganda, will also be returning shortly.

The decision comes as Pakistan carried out 'high coordinated', 'precision strikes' on terrorist hideouts in Iran's Sistan-o-Balochistan province.

The retaliation came over a day after Tehran carried out missile and drone strikes in Pakistan's Panjgur. The strikes were launched the day Kakar met with the Iranian foreign minister on the sidelines of the WEF in Davos, Switzerland.

FM Jilani received also a telephone call from the Foreign Minister of Iran, Hossein Amir Abdollahian.

The foreign minister firmly underscored that the attack conducted by Iran inside the Pakistani territory, on January 16, was not only a serious breach of Pakistan’s sovereignty but was also an egregious violation of international law and the spirit of bilateral relations between Pakistan and Iran.

Expressing Pakistan’s unreserved condemnation of the attack, the foreign minister added that the incident has caused serious damage to the bilateral ties between Pakistan and Iran. The foreign minister added that Pakistan reserved the right to respond to this provocative act.

Furthermore, Iranian FM Abdollahian said on the sidelines of WEF, "None of the nationals of the friendly and brotherly country of Pakistan were targeted by Iranian missiles and drones."

"The so-called Jaish al-Adl group, which is an Iranian terrorist group, was targeted," he added.

Abdollahian also said he spoke to his Pakistani counterpart and assured him that Iran “respects” Pakistan’s sovereignty. However, he added that Iran would not hesitate to act if its national security and interests came under threat.

Source: Express Tribune

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PM Kakar, FM to cut short Davos visit | The Express Tribune

Decision comes as Pakistan responds to Tehran's deadly airspace violation on Tuesday night
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Pakistan is not syria or iraq. iran should learn this lesson .
btw our duffer have a very big ego . he should let it go for the sake of the regional stability .
but whatever .
 
sweep_shot said:
Not surprised that Pakistan attacked back.

Iran started first. What were they thinking? They shouldn't have attacked inside Pakistan.
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Pakistan attacked back?? To whom?

Did you read this in some bedtime story? LOL
 
Rajdeep said:
Pakistan attacked back?? To whom?

Did you read this in some bedtime story? LOL
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Pakistan did a strike inside Iran.

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Pakistan warns of "Serious Consequences" after Iran attacks Balochi bases

DUBAI, Jan 16 (Reuters) - Two bases of Baluchi militant group Jaish al Adl in Pakistan were targeted by missiles on Tuesday, Iranian state media reported, a day after Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards attacked targets in Iraq and Syria with missiles. The militant group has previously mounted...
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Iran’s attack on terrorists bases proves the failure of Pakistan government to curb terrorists and terrorist organisation in their Country. In past US and India carried out surgical strikes inside Pakistan… Terrorists and their organisations freely using Pakistan land for their operations. Persons like Hafeez Saeed is freely roaming inside Pakistan
 
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Hitman said:
War fought by a country surviving on handouts and bailouts?
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Why so touchy about Akhand Bharat?

You say Ummah so much I wonder if it was your first word.

As soon as the poster mentions the Hindu equivalent you get so touchy.

Who exactly is the target of your ire. It shifts from Hamas, to Palestinans, to all muslims and now to Pakistanis?

Please specify who exactly it is you have this hatred for so we can try to treat it.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Why so touchy about Akhand Bharat?

You say Ummah so much I wonder if it was your first word.

As soon as the poster mentions the Hindu equivalent you get so touchy.

Who exactly is the target of your ire. It shifts from Hamas, to Palestinans, to all muslims and now to Pakistanis?

Please specify who exactly it is you have this hatred for so we can try to treat it.
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I don't believe in Akhand Bharat. It's a fantasy of some deluded people.
 
Intresting now what can Iran do ? I don't think both party interested for any escalation
 
Russia urges ‘maximum restraint’

Russia says Pakistan and Iran must de-escalate tensions and pursue diplomacy.

“We are watching with concern the escalation of the situation in the Iran-Pakistan border area that has been growing in recent days. We call on the parties to exercise maximum restraint and to resolve emerging issues exclusively through political and diplomatic means,” the Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

Source: Al Jazeera
 
The Pakistan Stock Exchange (PSE) fell by 1,000 points this morning following news of strikes on Iran.

However, the PSE rebounded later in the day, gaining back nearly 650 points before it closed.

Pakistan was on the brink of default last year before it managed to secure an agreement with the International Monetary Fund for $3bn.

In the past six months, it has shown gradual improvement in its economic indicators, including inflation – which fell from a high of 38 percent to 29 percent.

Source: Al Jazeera
 
While in India we will grab popcorn if there is Iran-Pak escalation, but the larger point remains on Iran's behaviour. They struck a ship with cargo destined for India, near India. They have struck sites in Iraq and Syria recently. And they prop various terror groups in the region, and is a destabilising force.

It faces no consequences and is looking quite emboldened. Wonder what the nutjobs in Tehran are thinking and whats their gameplan. If this regime gets nukes, the region will be worse off.
 
Taliban calls for ‘regional stability’

The Taliban government has called the attacks in Pakistan and Iran “alarming”, calling for both sides to exercise restraint.

“In light of the region’s newfound peace and stability after protracted imposed wars and instability, both sides should direct efforts towards further strengthening regional stability and resolving disputes through diplomatic channels and dialogue,” the Taliban government’s foreign ministry spokesperson Abdul Qahar Balkhi said on X.

Source: Al Jazeera
 
FearlessRoar said:
Taliban calls for ‘regional stability’

The Taliban government has called the attacks in Pakistan and Iran “alarming”, calling for both sides to exercise restraint.

“In light of the region’s newfound peace and stability after protracted imposed wars and instability, both sides should direct efforts towards further strengthening regional stability and resolving disputes through diplomatic channels and dialogue,” the Taliban government’s foreign ministry spokesperson Abdul Qahar Balkhi said on X.

Source: Al Jazeera
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rofl this happened in my lifetime :)))
 
I cannot even blame Pakistan for attacking back, Iran is playing all Rambo
 
Devadwal said:
While in India we will grab popcorn if there is Iran-Pak escalation, but the larger point remains on Iran's behaviour. They struck a ship with cargo destined for India, near India. They have struck sites in Iraq and Syria recently. And they prop various terror groups in the region, and is a destabilising force.

It faces no consequences and is looking quite emboldened. Wonder what the nutjobs in Tehran are thinking and whats their gameplan. If this regime gets nukes, the region will be worse off.
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Don't they already have nukes?
 
Pakistan isn't Iraq or Syria, it will respond if treated this way: ex-envoy

Former Pakistani ambassador Abdul Basit has issued a strong response to Iran's recent airstrikes in Balochistan, claiming that Pakistan "is not Iraq or Syria" and warning of further consequences.

Basit, speaking on Samaa TV, highlighted that if Pakistan is treated in this way, it will respond also. He also highlighted the history of concern and cooperation with Iran, but asserted that Tehran's "unprovoked" attack, which killed two children, has pushed the relationship to a critical point. He stressed that Islamabad has "responded appropriately" by recalling its ambassador and blocking Tehran's envoy.

The former ambassador pointed to Iran's growing regional ambitions, claiming that its "expansion of capabilities across Asia" is a "dangerous game." He further warned that Tehran's actions will only lead to its own isolation, urging them to resolve the dispute diplomatically and avoid creating further conflict.

Basit also drew a historical parallel, recalling Iran's 2010 arrest and execution of the Jundullah chief, the predecessor to the targeted Jaish-ul-Adl group. This, he argued, demonstrates Iran's capacity for cooperation, a path he hopes they will choose once again.

The current situation has thrown Pakistan-Iran relations into a deep freeze, raising concerns about regional instability. Basit's strong words reflect the anger and frustration felt by many in Pakistan, while his call for diplomacy offers a possible route towards de-escalation.

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Devadwal said:
Whole world know that what is india capable of so stop living in your fantasy bro .this is not a thread about india so let's not go there .
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It wasn't me who started chest thumping about Indian missile destroyers in this thread, do you need me to refer you back to the post?
 

President, political leaders hail security forces on Op ‘Marg Bar Sarmachar’​

President Dr Arif Alvi in a statement on Pakistan's action in Iran's Sistan and Balochistan province said that Pakistan will not compromise on its national security and territorial integrity.

President said Pakistan will take all necessary steps to defend its land.

President praised the professionalism of the armed forces for targeting terrorist hideouts while saving Iranian citizens from casualties.

“Terrorism is a common challenge, global efforts are needed to eliminate it. Pakistan fully respects the sovereignty and territorial integrity of all states. President Pakistan expects the same from other countries that they do not violate international laws, President of the country Pakistan and Iran are brotherly countries, the issues need to be resolved through dialogue and mutual consultation,” the president said.

Source: Samaa News
 
Air superiority trumps everything this is why one cannot touch NATO and Pakistan has shown this to Iran.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
I think munching popcorn is all India is capable of, good for you guys that Pakistan doesn't take open attacks so lightly. Punch has been met by counter punch, and while it's not something I can condone, at least they aren't just keyboard warriors like across the border.
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India did what was in its interest (Oil gas) Pakistan did what was in it’s interest.(American Western Money).
 
Embarrassing by both nations. Pakistan may have been compelled to retaliate but what is killing women and children on both sides going to achieve?
 
Both Iran and Pakistan cannot afford a war and they know that. This is just posturing and blowing of hot air.
 
Amid all the chaos why are Bakhts getting their knickers twisted, Pakistan even with begging bowl cannot be walloped, message sent to everyone :tuq
 
Not good enough, we should have attacked Tehran and dropped a few missiles and bombs there to send the message Pakistan is not to be messed with and that Pakistan is not Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria.
 
Savak said:
Not good enough, we should have attacked Tehran and dropped a few missiles and bombs there to send the message Pakistan is not to be messed with and that Pakistan is not Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria.
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Iran is ruled by mental cases. No point in escalating the situation to a full blown war.
 
US President Joe Biden said on Thursday that the clashes between Iran and Pakistan this week show that Iran is not “well-liked” in the region.

The development comes after Pakistan launched strikes against hideouts inside Iran used by what it called “terrorists responsible for recent attacks in Pakistan”, two days after Tehran said it struck the bases of Jaish al-Adl group within Pakistani territory.

“As you can see Iran is not particularly well liked in the region and where that goes, we’re working on now. I don’t know where that goes,” Biden said.



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Champ_Pal said:
Iran is ruled by mental cases. No point in escalating the situation to a full blown war.
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Pakistan needs to send the message across that these sort of misadventures from anyone on their soil will not be tolerated.
 
Innocent lives taken on both sides and that's really sad.

However, for once Pakistan has responded to a situation professionally and with authority.
 
I think therfore I am said:
You're a strange fella. What is your ethnic origin and where do you reside?
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Is it not true that last weekend many Pakistanis joined the Palestine protest in Central London and were protesting against attacks on Houthi Rebels backed by Iran? Now Iran and Pakistan fighting among themselves, so obviously it will be a confusing game as to who is whose friend and who is enemy.

From Stop Bombing Gaza to Stop bombing Yemen, maybe we will hear Stop Bombing Baluchistan in the next rally at Trafalgar square?
 
Kianig89 said:
Amid all the chaos why are Bakhts getting their knickers twisted, Pakistan even with begging bowl cannot be walloped, message sent to everyone :tuq
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You are right that Pakistan cannot be walloped but that is only because they have the backing of America. I will be very surprised if this retaliation attack by Pakistan didn't have America's approval. Iran is a common enemy of west and any (mis)adventure against them is welcomed with open arms by big boys in the west. The key for Pakistan is to remain in the good book of America, everything will be fine then.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
US President Joe Biden said on Thursday that the clashes between Iran and Pakistan this week show that Iran is not “well-liked” in the region.

The development comes after Pakistan launched strikes against hideouts inside Iran used by what it called “terrorists responsible for recent attacks in Pakistan”, two days after Tehran said it struck the bases of Jaish al-Adl group within Pakistani territory.

“As you can see Iran is not particularly well liked in the region and where that goes, we’re working on now. I don’t know where that goes,” Biden said.
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Actually it's a sign of strength that Iran has withstood 45 years of almost relentless hatred and isolation from the most powerful nation on earth (US), most powerful nation in the region (Israel) and nearly the entire Arab World.

They've experienced economic sanctions, political isolation, assassination of scientists and top military leaders, plus all manner of threats levelled against them - yet remain standing.

That's what real encirclement looks like whereas Pakistan's paranoid generals concoct imaginary and grossly exaggerated threats to keep expanding their budgets, business empire and personal wealth.
 
Markhor said:
Actually it's a sign of strength that Iran has withstood 45 years of almost relentless hatred and isolation from the most powerful nation on earth (US), most powerful nation in the region (Israel) and nearly the entire Arab World.

They've experienced economic sanctions, political isolation, assassination of scientists and top military leaders, plus all manner of threats levelled against them - yet remain standing.

That's what real encirclement looks like whereas Pakistan's paranoid generals concoct imaginary and grossly exaggerated threats to keep expanding their budgets, business empire and personal wealth.
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strength, but at what cost, regardless of most of the post revolution history, Iran is today a satellite to china, and i say this in context to what the country was. had their growth even been as shoddy as Pakistan, they still would have been an upper middle income country. instead they are an international pariah, dogma driven police state with a lower nominal GDP per capita than nearly 50 years ago.

had they developed and grown then id say fair play, but to standing alone isnt anything special if you are gonna destroy your country in the process.
 
The Pakistan Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) has directed Pakistani airlines to not use Iranian airspace, ARY News reported citing sources.

According to sources, the Civil Aviation Authority has asked the Pakistan-bound airlines to use the Muscat (Oman) route.

However, the CAA sources said that strict monitoring of the flights from the western direction including Iran has been initiated.

Sources said that the Iranian airspace has not been closed for commercial flights yet and no ban has been imposed on flights coming to Pakistan from any side.
 
ElRaja said:
strength, but at what cost, regardless of most of the post revolution history, Iran is today a satellite to china, and i say this in context to what the country was. had their growth even been as shoddy as Pakistan, they still would have been an upper middle income country. instead they are an international pariah, dogma driven police state with a lower nominal GDP per capita than nearly 50 years ago.

had they developed and grown then id say fair play, but to standing alone isnt anything special if you are gonna destroy your country in the process.
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On the flipside - the adult literacy rate has risen from 36% to 88% since 1979. Their female literacy rate puts Pakistan to shame.

Despite having a theocratic government, Iran recorded one of the biggest ever cuts in population growth by significantly expanding access to contraception. Meanwhile in Pakistan we see an ever expanding population that a creaking economy cannot support.

Iran are a pariah because they refuse to accept Israeli military or Saudi economic hegemony. Their only sin is aspiring to become equal partners in the region.
 
Markhor said:
On the flipside - the adult literacy rate has risen from 36% to 88% since 1979. Their female literacy rate puts Pakistan to shame.

Despite having a theocratic government, Iran recorded one of the biggest ever cuts in population growth by significantly expanding access to contraception. Meanwhile in Pakistan we see an ever expanding population that a creaking economy cannot support.

Iran are a pariah because they refuse to accept Israeli military or Saudi economic hegemony. Their only sin is aspiring to become equal partners in the region.
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as you say yourself, this is in spite of their government, not because of it, Iranian people have a long cultural history and i have no qualms with that.

i am no fan of population control, wealthy developing technologically progressive states can handle large growing populations. yes pakistan's population exacerbates its problems, but its not the cause of it.

to frame their foreign policy as anything other than an obsession for complete domestic political control however is misleading. when it comes to nations money equals power, you do not impoverish yourself in the desire for regional parity, that is a post-fact revision of history to deal with the fact that the revolution turned out to be a total failure from an economic point of view.
 
Pakistan-Iran border remains open: official

Despite Pakistan protesting against Tehran’s recent airstrikes in a village in Panjgur district of Balochistan province, a senior administration official in Taftan town on Thursday told The Express Tribune that the Pakistan-Iran border remained open throughout the day.

He continued that routine trade activities and movement of the people was under way at the border.

"We have not been instructed to shut down the border,” the official added, requesting anonymity because he was not authorised to speak to the media.


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Pakistan-Iran border remains open: official | The Express Tribune

Says routine trade activities and movement of people under way
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FearlessRoar said:
Taliban calls for ‘regional stability’

The Taliban government has called the attacks in Pakistan and Iran “alarming”, calling for both sides to exercise restraint.

“In light of the region’s newfound peace and stability after protracted imposed wars and instability, both sides should direct efforts towards further strengthening regional stability and resolving disputes through diplomatic channels and dialogue,” the Taliban government’s foreign ministry spokesperson Abdul Qahar Balkhi said on X.

Source: Al Jazeera
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I will not surprise if Taliban gets “noble peace prize” for this….
 
Things are escalating and tensions are rising between the 2 countries. Nobody expected such a reply from Pakistan.
 
If the situation gets escalated between 2 countries then Muslim world will gets divided into Shia v/s Sunni which will b not a good sign for the Middle East region stability
 
Some countries and media houses of those countries will try to paint this as Shia/sunni stuff but it is not. It was an invasion and Pakistan replied to that invasion. This is as simple as that.
 
Savak said:
Pakistan needs to send the message across that these sort of misadventures from anyone on their soil will not be tolerated.
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I didn't think you were being serious but both countries went to great lengths to emphasise that it wasn't against the nation itself but bad actors residing there and conducting terrorist activities against them. Message has definitely been sent as agreed by the analysts who watch the region.

Massive inconvenience for the Pakistani Jenrails though, distracting them away for having to do something constructive instead of concentrating on building their public wealth. @Markhor
 
Rajdeep said:
Is it not true that last weekend many Pakistanis joined the Palestine protest in Central London and were protesting against attacks on Houthi Rebels backed by Iran? Now Iran and Pakistan fighting among themselves, so obviously it will be a confusing game as to who is whose friend and who is enemy.

From Stop Bombing Gaza to Stop bombing Yemen, maybe we will hear Stop Bombing Baluchistan in the next rally at Trafalgar square?
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Your attempt at poor sarcasm, reflects your intellect.

Read the art of war.

No confusion, The IDF's murderous blood lust hss exposed their true colours to the world.

It's hardly a war with Pakistan and Iran. On the contrary they have each wiped out terrorists that were destabilising to both nations.

It's ironic how ISIS has never attacked Israel
 
Red-Indian said:
To an outsider, it does seem like Pakistan's fighting a proxy battle for the US. The powers that be in the US want Iran's attention distracted to give Israel a more free hand in Gaza.

This feels like a nice low level conflict that will keep the Iranian public furious and Iranian leaders engaged so they'll step back from their support to other non-state actors.

A strong clue will be if the next big IMF program for Pakistan sails through much smoother than the last one and some big arms purchases from the States get approved easily.
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You are correct, the current Pak government and the current top armed forces chiefs are puppets of USA. They wanted to use Pak ground to start attacks against Iran, diverting them from helping the resistance in the area.

There will be no huge war between Pak and Iran both arent so stupid to lay/destroy their people and lay for the Zionists.
 
Pakistan-Iran diplomatic ties restored after missile and drone strikes

Pakistan and Iran have restored diplomatic ties according to the caretaker prime minister Anwaar-ul-Haq Kakar's office.

It comes after both countries exchanged drone and missile strikes on militant bases on each other's territory.

As a result of the ***-for-tat attacks Iran and Pakistan withdrew their ambassadors from the respective capitals.

Both ambassadors are now expected to return to their posts following talks.

Iran said Thursday's strikes killed nine people in a border village on its territory, including four children. Pakistan said an Iranian attack on Tuesday killed two children.

There has been no immediate comment from Iran on the talks.

Earlier on Friday, Pakistan expressed its willingness to work with Iran on "all issues" following a call between their foreign ministers.

"Foreign Minister Jilani expressed Pakistan's readiness to work with Iran on all issues based on spirit of mutual trust and cooperation," the Pakistan foreign ministry said.

"They also agreed to de-escalate the situation. The return of ambassadors of the two countries to their respective capitals was also discussed."



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Pakistan-Iran diplomatic ties restored after missile and drone strikes

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Pakistan, Iran to overcome ‘minor irritants’ through dialogue, diplomacy: NSC

The National Security Committee (NSC) meeting on Friday concluded that, in accordance with universal principles governing good neighbourly relations, Pakistan and Iran can address minor irritants through dialogue and diplomacy, further strengthening their historic ties.

The tensions escalated earlier in the week when Iran launched a missile strike against what it termed as hardline Sunni Muslim militants in Balochistan’s Pangur district bordering Iran. In a retaliatory move, Pakistan conducted air strikes against separatist militants inside Iranian territory, marking the first such incident since the Iran-Iraq war of 1980-88.

Earlier in the day, Caretaker Foreign Minister Jalil Abbas Jilani engaged in a crucial diplomatic conversation with his Iranian counterpart, Hossein Amir Abdollahian, marking a significant turning point in the recent escalation of tensions between Pakistan and Iran.

According to a short statement issued by the foreign office, Jilani expressed Pakistan's commitment to fostering collaboration with Iran, emphasising the importance of mutual trust and cooperation, particularly in the realm of security.

The NSC meeting, chaired by Caretaker Prime Minister Anwaarul Haq Kakar, focused on national security matters, as per a statement issued by the Prime Minister’s Office.

The forum conducted a comprehensive review of the situation and commended the armed forces of Pakistan for their professional, calibrated, and proportionate response to the unprovoked and unlawful violation of Pakistan’s sovereignty.

Participants in the meeting received briefings on political and diplomatic developments affecting the ongoing situation between Pakistan and Iran, discussing their impact on regional security. The forum also evaluated 'Operation Marg Bar Sarmachar,' successfully executed against Baloch terrorists of Pakistani origin residing in ungoverned spaces inside Iran.

An update on the border situation and the comprehensive preparations made to respond to any further violation of national sovereignty were also discussed.

The NSC reiterated an unwavering commitment to the absolute inviolability and sanctity of Pakistan's sovereignty and territorial integrity. The meeting emphasised that any attempt to breach it, on any pretext, would be met with the full might of the state.

Ensuring the security and safety of the people of Pakistan was declared paramount, and the state would spare no effort to guarantee it.

Recognising Iran as a neighbourly and brotherly Muslim country, the forum urged the utilisation of existing communication channels between the two nations to address mutual security concerns for the larger interest of regional peace and stability.

The meeting underscored Pakistan’s commitment to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of all countries in accordance with the UN Charter and international norms. The committee reiterated its resolve to combat terrorism in all its forms and manifestations with an iron hand, emphasising that Pakistan has endured more than any other country due to this scourge.

In line with universal principles governing good neighbourly relations, the NSC expressed confidence that through dialogue and diplomacy, both countries could overcome minor irritants and further deepen their historic relations.

The meeting was attended by the Caretaker Ministers for Defence, Foreign Affairs, Finance, and Information, along with the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee, Chief of the Army Staff, Chief of Naval Staff, and Chief of Air Staff, as well as heads of intelligence agencies.

Following the NSC meeting, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs provided the Caretaker Federal Cabinet with a comprehensive briefing on the aftermath of the Iranian attack on Pakistan on January 16.

In a session of the Federal Cabinet convened today, chaired by Caretaker Prime Minister Anwaarul Haq Kakar, details of the attack and Pakistan’s response were shared, said a PM Office statement.

The Cabinet commended the high professionalism demonstrated by the Pakistan Armed Forces in responding to the breach of the country’s sovereignty, highlighting the coordinated efforts of the entire government machinery.

Addressing the federal cabinet, the prime minister emphasised Pakistan's commitment to being a law-abiding and peace-loving nation, seeking amicable relations with all countries, especially its neighbours. He underscored the historically fraternal and cooperative relationship between Pakistan and Iran, characterised by mutual respect and affection.

The prime minister expressed that restoring the relationship to its pre-January 16, 2024 state was in the best interest of both nations.

In this context, Prime Minister Kakar conveyed Pakistan's willingness to welcome and reciprocate any positive measures from the Iranian side.
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Pakistan, Iran to overcome ‘minor irritants’ through dialogue | The Express Tribune

Forum recognises Iran as brotherly Muslim country, urging utilisation of existing communication channels to address security concerns
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Will the recent airstrikes between Iran and Pakistan lead to more sectarian tensions between sunnis and shias within Pakistan?

It is no secret that since the days of General Zia in 1980s, pakistani shias have often been portrayed as a fifth column and surrogates of Iran by sunnis.
The recent airstrikes though is the first time Pakistan and Iran have come into direct conflict in this way so we are in uncharted territory. Let's hope peace and sectarian harmony prevails in both Pakistan and Iran.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Some countries and media houses of those countries will try to paint this as Shia/sunni stuff but it is not. It was an invasion and Pakistan replied to that invasion. This is as simple as that.
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junoon said:
Will the recent airstrikes between Iran and Pakistan lead to more sectarian tensions between sunnis and shias within Pakistan?

It is no secret that since the days of General Zia in 1980s, pakistani shias have often been portrayed as a fifth column and surrogates of Iran by sunnis.
The recent airstrikes though is the first time Pakistan and Iran have come into direct conflict in this way so we are in uncharted territory. Let's hope peace and sectarian harmony prevails in both Pakistan and Iran.
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This is what is going on atm. SOme rival countries will try to paint a picture which is not true at all.
 
A big waste of nothing, what was the point of this whole conflict.

Islamic countries in or near the Asian subcontinent are living in an alternate reality, which is why most of them are broke, and going nowhere.

They will never learn, just keep repeating the same stupid crap that keeps them in the situations they are now in.

Congrats...
 
why indian brothers jumping up and down from last few days ? both countries have duffers , the issue ha settled down .
 
Romali_rotti said:
A big waste of nothing, what was the point of this whole conflict.

Islamic countries in or near the Asian subcontinent are living in an alternate reality, which is why most of them are broke, and going nowhere.

They will never learn, just keep repeating the same stupid crap that keeps them in the situations they are now in.

Congrats...
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Most of them were doing fine till 9/11 and then Arab spring. They destroyed Iraq and Syria, no fault of those countries.

A lot of Muslim countries are economically still much far ahead than the Indian subcontinent. Lots of people go there for work. Pakistan is one case where the problems are of its own creation but the rest are doing fine.

I have nothing but respect for Iran for not bowing down the established world order though.
 
Pakistan, Iran working discreetly to prevent future border crisis

Pakistan and Iran have been quietly working to evolve a new mechanism preventing the recurrence of events of the last week that for a moment jeopardise their longstanding relationship.

Official sources told The Express Tribune on Sunday that the two countries might have agreed to de-escalate tensions but were aware of the rupture the ***-for-tat missile attacks caused to the bilateral ties.

Pakistan is busy assessing the situation and trying to find answers as to what prompted Iran to conduct missile strikes. One source said that the two countries were pulled from the brink, but it would take some time before the bilateral ties were put on track.

The key concern is how the crisis would shape the future ties between the two countries.

It would be an understatement to say that the Iranian missile strikes put the bilateral ties at stake, the source added.

According to sources, Pakistan is carefully analysing the situation to understand the long-term implications of the crisis that was dealt with quickly as far as de-escalation was concerned.

Pakistan and Iran may often boast about the "friendly and brotherly" relations but underneath does exist certain issues that cause suspicion in both the capitals.

At the heart of the problem are the concerns both sides often expressed privately about the use of each other’s soil by certain terrorist groups.

Pakistan has longstanding concerns that Baloch terrorist outfits find refuge across the border in the Sistan-Balochistan province of Iran. Tehran on the other hand pointed a finger at anti-Iran militant groups such as Jaish al-Adl having hideouts in Balochistan province in Pakistan. Iran gave the same justification for carrying out cross-border missile strikes under the pretext that it was aimed at Jaish al-Adl hideouts.



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Pak, Iran working discreetly to prevent future border crisis | The Express Tribune

Instead of violating each other’s sovereignty, the two countries may deepen intelligence cooperation, say sources
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Iran attack: blessing in disguise for Pakistan?​

It was almost midnight on January 16 when social media was bombarded with posts about Iranian missile and drone strikes inside Pakistan. The initial source of the news was Iranian state media, though it later deleted the post. I was skeptical that the news was true. Why? Because the day Iran breached Pakistan’s air space, the Iranian Foreign Minister met the Pakistani Prime Minister on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos; and two days prior, an aide of the Iranian President was in Islamabad; and a day earlier Pakistan and Iranian navies had conducted joint drills in the Strait of hormuz. I texted a senior Pakistani official, who deals with the region, about the speculations. I was expecting the official would resolutely rebut the news. But he confirmed the Iranian strikes. An hour later, the Foreign Office issued a statement, confirming Iran violated Pakistan’s airspace. There were claims and counter-claims. Iran claimed it struck two terrorist hideouts in Pangour district of Balochistan. The target, according to Iran, was Jaish al-Adl, a militant outfit operating from Iran’s Sistan-Baluchestan province. But Pakistan contested the claims. It said strikes killed two innocent children and injured 3 girls.

Pakistan and Iran may have had security issues along the border but a very few in Pakistan were expecting Iran to resort to such a unilateral action. The background discussions with relevant officials suggested that Islamabad thought Tehran might come with an explanation and offer an apology. Had Iran done that, Pakistan would not have resorted to counter-attack. But when Iran did not respond as per the expectations, Islamabad in a first step decided to recall its envoy from Tehran and asked the Iranian ambassador to stay back who was already in his country. The move was taken in the hope that Tehran would realise its ‘mistake’ and get the message that Pakistan had not taken this transgression lightly. But the Iranian government was unmoved. Instead, Iranian officials started boasting about its strikes inside Pakistan. That was when Pakistan decided to hit back.

It was clear from the readout of the Foreign Office that while Pakistan did conduct retaliatory strikes it had no intention to escalate the situation further. The ball was in Iran’s court. By the time Pakistan retaliated, certain international players got involved to defuse the tension. China, Russia and on top of it Turkey worked overtly and covertly to prevent further escalation. Iran too realised that there was no point in escalating the matter. Soon the two countries established contacts to lower the tensions. Foreign Ministers of the two countries spoke by phone and agreed to restore the diplomatic ties.

The dramatic turn of events in 24 hours may serve as a template for other countries on how to defuse tensions. The two countries pulled back from the brink merely within 24 hours. The question is: what did Iran gain out of those strikes? Prior to such strikes, Iran certainly enjoyed great goodwill among the Pakistanis. Many Pakistanis appreciated Iran’s clear stance on Israel at a time when other Muslim countries have taken a more nuanced position. Pakistan has always tried to maintain a delicate balance in its ties with Iran and the west and Arab countries. Islamabad in the past resisted pressure from those countries to act against Tehran.

By launching missile strikes, Iran sent a wrong message to Pakistan. On the contrary, Pakistan has much to gain from this crisis. It has once again established that even if a friendly country ties to breach its sovereignty, it will be given a befitting response. It has sent a message to other neighbours too, particularly India, that if it is thinking of any misadventure ahead of the general elections then it is mistaken. Also, the handling of the crisis has helped the security establishment restore its public image in the wake of its tussle with a political party. No matter what was the ultimate objective of Iran, the reality is that its misadventure proved a blessing in disguise for Pakistan!

Source : The Express Tribune
 
Iran's foreign minister to visit Pakistan next week, Islamabad says

Pakistan said on Monday Iran's foreign minister will visit the country next week, signaling efforts to rebuild ties after the neighbours exchanged missile strikes last week at what they said were militant targets.

Ambassadors of both countries have also been asked to return to their posts by Jan. 26, the Pakistan foreign ministry said in a statement.

Pakistan had recalled its ambassador to Tehran and had not allowed his counterpart to return to Islamabad, as well as cancelling all high-level diplomatic and trade engagements.

"At the invitation of Foreign Minister Jalil Abbas Jilani, Foreign Minister of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Hossein Amir Abdollahian, will undertake a visit to Pakistan on 29 January 2024," a Pakistan foreign office statement said.

The ***-for-tat strikes by the two countries were the highest-profile cross-border intrusions in recent years and have raised alarm about wider instability in the region since the war between Israel and Hamas erupted on Oct. 7.

Islamabad said it hit bases of the separatist Baloch Liberation Front and Baloch Liberation Army, while Tehran said its missiles struck militants from the Jaish al Adl (JAA) group.

The militant groups operate in an area that includes Pakistan's southwestern province of Balochistan and Iran's southeastern Sistan-Baluchestan province. Both are restive, mineral-rich and largely underdeveloped.


Source: Reuters
 
The ambassadors of Pakistan and Iran would return to their respective capitals on Thursday, days after the two neighbours were on the brink of a major conflict in the wake of ***-for-tat missile strikes.

Official sources told The Express Tribune on Wednesday that Pakistan’s Ambassador to Iran Mudassir Tipu would return to Tehran on January 25. Similarly, the Iranian envoy Dr Reza Amiri Moghadam will resume his duties this week.

Pakistan withdrew its envoy and asked the Iranian Ambassador to stay back in protest over Iran’s missile strikes in Panjgur, Balochistan on January 16.


Source: Tribune
 
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