Pakistan were 84/2 in 11 Overs, scored only 53 runs in last 9 overs of the innings

[Saj]

People saying they should have taken 2s and 3s instead of 6s, as it’s the easier thing to do vs clearing you leg and swinging the bat. It’s not.
Anyone whose held a bat in their life will know how hard it is to consistently place the ball in gaps and rotate the strike.

Always easier to hit 1s, 2s and 3s instead of 6s, especially with such big square boundaries.

 

[James]

I know it’s easier to blame Pakistan for folding, but I think credit should be given to Jos Buttler and his bowlers for bossing that innings. England played extremely well to restrict Pakistan’s scoring in the Final and that is where the analysis of the match should be focused imo.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I know it’s easier to blame Pakistan for folding, but I think credit should be given to Jos Buttler and his bowlers for bossing that innings. England played extremely well to restrict Pakistan’s scoring in the Final and that is where the analysis of the match should be focused imo.

Pakistan lower order is not equipped to play well on spicier tracks even though England had no express bowlers. Against India they were in even more hopeless situation. 120/7. But India's pathetic death bowling allowed Pakistan's tail to wag. Otherwise they shouldn't have crossed 135 even against india. Pakistan went with a light weight batting unit. None of the bottom six are reliable in such conditions.

 

[shaz619]

I know it’s easier to blame Pakistan for folding, but I think credit should be given to Jos Buttler and his bowlers for bossing that innings. England played extremely well to restrict Pakistan’s scoring in the Final and that is where the analysis of the match should be focused imo.

Yes, I always said before the tournie that the English attack was arguably the best and shouldn’t be slept on, it’s so versatile and dynamic, the batting prowess overshadow how good they are.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Yes, I always said before the tournie that the English attack was arguably the best and shouldn’t be slept on, it’s so versatile and dynamic, the batting prowess overshadow how good they are.

Stokes and Jordan are pie chuckers. Curran bowled ok but most teams batted like minnows against him. No chance he will repeat this in fact he might cost England in '23. Overall only Rashid and Wood are class.

 

[Saj]

Stokes and Jordan are pie chuckers. Curran bowled ok but most teams batted like minnows against him. No chance he will repeat this in fact he might cost England in '23. Overall only Rashid and Wood are class.

Pakistan batters did nothing to upset Curran's line or length.

They batted against him as if he was Mitchell Johnson at his peak.

Total lack of planning.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Pakistan batters did nothing to upset Curran's line or length.

They batted against him as if he was Mitchell Johnson at his peak.

Total lack of planning.

Made a 5'7 bowler look like Lee and Akhtar combined. Need to watch that 6 Kohli hit V Shaheen Asia cup I think it was?

Use your feet for goodness sake. .

 

[Farabi]

Always easier to hit 1s, 2s and 3s instead of 6s, especially with such big square boundaries.

Anyone can dab and run but that is risky and it will not get you 8-9 an over. Are you really saying Wasim Junior, Nawaz, Shadab, Shaheen can consistency place 6 out of 6 balls in an over in the gaps to score 2s and 3s? I don’t think so. They could maybe get 4-6 runs an over but certainly not 8-12!

Proper strike rotation is finding gaps and angles that will give you at least a few 2s and 3s in an over. But you need to understand field positions really well, place it very precisely, then judge the runs well, and run hard and smartly. Those angles are not easy to judge and the tail specially struggles with this.

It’s easier to clear your leg and swing for leather, whether it clears the boundary is another matter altogether.

In Pak’s team currently, only Babar, Rizwan and Shan seem to be able to get those 2s and 3s easily enough to accumulate 8-9 an over. specially Shan Masood.
I wouldn’t even include Cachu, Nawaz. Haris and Shadab to this list.

I don’t disagree with the strategy at the back-end in the MCG should have been 2s and 3s. I am just casting doubt on whether the personnel that were there in that situation had the skills to execute it. I really don’t think so. Maybe Shan could have had he stayed till the end.

 

[PakLFC]

We couldn't unshackle the chains England had us in. That is why we couldn't score freely then we didn't have a lower order hitter like Asif Ali either.

 

[James]

Stokes and Jordan are pie chuckers. Curran bowled ok but most teams batted like minnows against him. No chance he will repeat this in fact he might cost England in '23. Overall only Rashid and Wood are class.

Sam Curran bowled superbly throughout the tournament, teams couldn’t get him away and he was one of the top wicket takers in any team. Again not getting the credit he deserves here.

Ben Stokes is 8 away from taking his 200th Test match wicket, clearly not a pie chucker.

 

[Snowflake]

When you have two below intelligence individuals in Saqlain and Yousaf heading your management; what do you expect?

Those who have seen Saqlain would know how much he depended on his captains to tell him what to do. He never displayed any signs of strong and independent understanding of the game.

Less said about Yousaf the better. We all saw his acumen as a captain.

Both are very poor appointments and with Babar being of the same mold, it’s a recipe for disaster.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Pakistan were looking set for a decent score like 155-160 while being at 84/2 in 11 Overs. Next Ball, Rashid dismissed Babar with a Googly and Ifti Chacha played out a Maiden.

Next over Ifti Chacha got dismissed. Whole momentum of the match got killed at that stage and Pakistan ended up with a below par score .

This is an 84 meter boundary ground and average first innings total is less than 145.

Did you take that into consideration?

Pakistan was about 15 runs short of putting a winning total on the board. Thank you chachay ifti.

Shaheen got injured, or else it could’ve gone to the last ball in defending 137.

 

[Saj]

Anyone can dab and run but that is risky and it will not get you 8-9 an over. Are you really saying Wasim Junior, Nawaz, Shadab, Shaheen can consistency place 6 out of 6 balls in an over in the gaps to score 2s and 3s? I don’t think so. They could maybe get 4-6 runs an over but certainly not 8-12!

Proper strike rotation is finding gaps and angles that will give you at least a few 2s and 3s in an over. But you need to understand field positions really well, place it very precisely, then judge the runs well, and run hard and smartly. Those angles are not easy to judge and the tail specially struggles with this.

It’s easier to clear your leg and swing for leather, whether it clears the boundary is another matter altogether.

In Pak’s team currently, only Babar, Rizwan and Shan seem to be able to get those 2s and 3s easily enough to accumulate 8-9 an over. specially Shan Masood.
I wouldn’t even include Cachu, Nawaz. Haris and Shadab to this list.

I don’t disagree with the strategy at the back-end in the MCG should have been 2s and 3s. I am just casting doubt on whether the personnel that were there in that situation had the skills to execute it. I really don’t think so. Maybe Shan could have had he stayed till the end.

If as an international cricketer batting between 1 and 8 you cannot work out and assess when to go for big shots and when to go for 1s, 2s and 3s, then you shouldn't be playing international cricket.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Sam Curran bowled superbly throughout the tournament, teams couldn’t get him away and he was one of the top wicket takers in any team. Again not getting the credit he deserves here.

Ben Stokes is 8 away from taking his 200th Test match wicket, clearly not a pie chucker.

He was bowling 82mph no swing no seam.....

 

[Farabi]

If as an international cricketer batting between 1 and 8 you cannot work out and assess when to go for big shots and when to go for 1s, 2s and 3s, then you shouldn't be playing international cricket.

Agreed but my point was different. Even if batters from 4-7 assessed it correctly, there was no guarantee that they would be able to accumulate 8-12 run per over using just strike rotation. I seriously doubt Nawaz, Shadab, Shaheen and Wasim Jr possess the skill-set. They could maybe get 5-6 runs. Great strike rotation is the hardest craft and something that seperates the greatest from good. What made Inzi and Miandad great was not their ability to hit boundaries, it was their ability to rotate the strike almost at will.

 

[Farabi]

Sam Curran bowled superbly throughout the tournament, teams couldn’t get him away and he was one of the top wicket takers in any team. Again not getting the credit he deserves here.

Ben Stokes is 8 away from taking his 200th Test match wicket, clearly not a pie chucker.

No doubt England bowled really well. But they were also massively helped by the toss putting Pak to bat in tricky conditions with overcast conditions and fresh pitch where it was not clear what a winning total maybe and challenging to clear the boundaries. 6 out of 7 T20 WC finals have been won by the side batting second. If Eng had batted first, they could have imploded as well.
Also, their was some poor planning and batting by Pakistan from 16-20 that helped England’s cause when 3 batsmen gave catching practice to the same fielder at what was the longest boundary in the world.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Wasim Jnr should not have batted so high up the order.

He couldn't even get bat to ball in the semi final.

 

[pakrock]

Yes, wasim junior is fake all-rounder, he is worse them tailendar. Haris and Nasim would have played better than him, wasted deliveries all the time..