AlphaFighter
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I read a gem of a post in this thread and i will quote it i.e Post 54 in the following thread
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...elephant-in-the-room-the-Pakistan-pace-attack
I have always had these views but i just didn't know how to express it but well done to the poster for correctly diagnosing the issue well.
Indian pace bowlers may not be the most talented or gifted world wide although the gap between the Pakistani and Indian pace attack in the last 6-7 years has significantly narrowed and in fact i take no shame in admitting the Indian pace attack as of now is more dependable and reliable compared to the Pakistani pace attack and under Kohli they will operate with the right attitude.
But one massive benefit of the IPL is that the Indian bowlers have learnt how to operate under pressure. When the batsmen are going after them, they don't panic because they know they have the batting strength to chase down any score unlike the Pakistani batting line up. But another thing which impresses me a lot is that if the conditions are absolutely flat with no assistance for the pacers or spinners, they don't blindly follow the Imran Khan doctrine of "Attack and get wickets", they understand that the conditions just does not suit aggressive, attacking bowling. They instead choose to minimize the damage where they resort to a disciplined approach of bowling to a batsman's weakness, bowling to their captain's fields, eliminating the boundaries and being content to give away singles instead. They have also learn't thanks to the ten years of IPL exposure to bowl negative lines i.e. the wide outside the off stump yorker, the slower ball bouncers, the back of the hand slower ball, the finger spin slower ball, understanding the angles in the field and the batsmen's hitting zones and where likely the batsmen are going to hit out.
Apart from the SA match which the poster excellently quoted where Dhoni's masterful defensive tactics ensured a clear shot SA win became a draw. India has done this masterfully many other times as well. If people watch the India-Bangladesh match in the T-20 WC, in the final over Dhoni specifically instructed the bowler to bowl outside the offstump to minimize boundary hitting and to ensure dot balls and the bowler obliged.
Similarly in the T-20 games against Pakistan in the WC in 2014 and 2016, the Pakistani batsmen again followed the 90's philosophy of going slow in the first 10 overs assuming that they will successfully go all guns blazing in the final 10 overs. Guess what, Indian bowlers weren't even striving for wickets, they were content with bowling dot balls after dot balls and the pressure told on the players.
If you contrast this with the Pakistani pace attack, we are still operating like the 80's and 90's where the pacers don't mix things up well, continue to attack and attack and don't have the intelligence to understand that in flat wickets, you can't strive for wickets and you have to instead strive to bowl dot balls, eliminate boundary balls and restrict the opposition to singles. The captain's that we have do not have the creativity, imagination to set run restricting fields neither do they have the discipline to bowl to their fields either.
Just as an example Wahab Riaz's delivery to Steve Smith in the T-20 WC match where he kept on bowling at 145-150 km/hr, he didn't change a single thing, smith exposed his stumps and instead of firing one in on the stumps he followed the batsman.
I don't know how and when our pacers will adapt to modern times. The Pakistani players have definately suffered from being banned from the IPL as they would have been exposed to the very best players, in absolutely flat conditions. BPL, CPL is an inferior league where the top international players dont take part, and when you don't face the top notch players you don't learn from the best. The English T-20 and BBL are in the middle.
Not sure how much the PSL will teach the players, if it continues to be held in UAE, i am not sure it will be that useful because our players will only be continuously be playing on spinning, UAE conditions which are not like high run scoring conditions you find in India and Pakistan.
Once the Australian tour is over, i hope Mickey Arthur will be given a full reign to do what he deems to be the best for the team. Since June the team has been on the run and he hasn't even had time to hold a full fledged off season training camp and proper time to meet the selectors, observe domestic players e.t.c.
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...elephant-in-the-room-the-Pakistan-pace-attack
I have always had these views but i just didn't know how to express it but well done to the poster for correctly diagnosing the issue well.
Indian pace bowlers may not be the most talented or gifted world wide although the gap between the Pakistani and Indian pace attack in the last 6-7 years has significantly narrowed and in fact i take no shame in admitting the Indian pace attack as of now is more dependable and reliable compared to the Pakistani pace attack and under Kohli they will operate with the right attitude.
But one massive benefit of the IPL is that the Indian bowlers have learnt how to operate under pressure. When the batsmen are going after them, they don't panic because they know they have the batting strength to chase down any score unlike the Pakistani batting line up. But another thing which impresses me a lot is that if the conditions are absolutely flat with no assistance for the pacers or spinners, they don't blindly follow the Imran Khan doctrine of "Attack and get wickets", they understand that the conditions just does not suit aggressive, attacking bowling. They instead choose to minimize the damage where they resort to a disciplined approach of bowling to a batsman's weakness, bowling to their captain's fields, eliminating the boundaries and being content to give away singles instead. They have also learn't thanks to the ten years of IPL exposure to bowl negative lines i.e. the wide outside the off stump yorker, the slower ball bouncers, the back of the hand slower ball, the finger spin slower ball, understanding the angles in the field and the batsmen's hitting zones and where likely the batsmen are going to hit out.
Apart from the SA match which the poster excellently quoted where Dhoni's masterful defensive tactics ensured a clear shot SA win became a draw. India has done this masterfully many other times as well. If people watch the India-Bangladesh match in the T-20 WC, in the final over Dhoni specifically instructed the bowler to bowl outside the offstump to minimize boundary hitting and to ensure dot balls and the bowler obliged.
Similarly in the T-20 games against Pakistan in the WC in 2014 and 2016, the Pakistani batsmen again followed the 90's philosophy of going slow in the first 10 overs assuming that they will successfully go all guns blazing in the final 10 overs. Guess what, Indian bowlers weren't even striving for wickets, they were content with bowling dot balls after dot balls and the pressure told on the players.
If you contrast this with the Pakistani pace attack, we are still operating like the 80's and 90's where the pacers don't mix things up well, continue to attack and attack and don't have the intelligence to understand that in flat wickets, you can't strive for wickets and you have to instead strive to bowl dot balls, eliminate boundary balls and restrict the opposition to singles. The captain's that we have do not have the creativity, imagination to set run restricting fields neither do they have the discipline to bowl to their fields either.
Just as an example Wahab Riaz's delivery to Steve Smith in the T-20 WC match where he kept on bowling at 145-150 km/hr, he didn't change a single thing, smith exposed his stumps and instead of firing one in on the stumps he followed the batsman.
I don't know how and when our pacers will adapt to modern times. The Pakistani players have definately suffered from being banned from the IPL as they would have been exposed to the very best players, in absolutely flat conditions. BPL, CPL is an inferior league where the top international players dont take part, and when you don't face the top notch players you don't learn from the best. The English T-20 and BBL are in the middle.
Not sure how much the PSL will teach the players, if it continues to be held in UAE, i am not sure it will be that useful because our players will only be continuously be playing on spinning, UAE conditions which are not like high run scoring conditions you find in India and Pakistan.
Once the Australian tour is over, i hope Mickey Arthur will be given a full reign to do what he deems to be the best for the team. Since June the team has been on the run and he hasn't even had time to hold a full fledged off season training camp and proper time to meet the selectors, observe domestic players e.t.c.
