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Pakistan's chances of reaching the semi-finals stage of the ICC World Cup 2023?

Will Pakistan somehow qualify for the semi-finals of the ICC World Cup 2023?

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Srilanka has more chance of reaching in semifinals than Pakistan.
They need to win two game against Afghanistan and Bangladesh .
If NZ can lose all the game then Sri Lanka is going to qualify for Semi instead of Pakistan
 
Devadwal said:
Srilanka has more chance of reaching in semifinals than Pakistan.
They need to win two game against Afghanistan and Bangladesh .
If NZ can lose all the game then Sri Lanka is going to qualify for Semi instead of Pakistan
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Pak will edge past srilanka in NRR if they manage to win 3 games
 
Ali Active said:
Pak will edge past srilanka in NRR if they manage to win 3 games
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You can win still your NRR can decrease at this point. Have you noticed yesterday Australia won but their NRR is decreased from +1.11 to 0.97. At this stage your NRR is hardly improve compared to initial stages
 
NishanKonar said:
Not possible unless Sri Lanka loses to India by 200 plus runs & Pakistan wins its 3 games by bigger margins than Sri Lanka
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sri lanka and pakistan are very close in nrr pakistan plays last
if somehow we get to that situation pak will pull that off but it is still 3 percent chance:ifti
 
Pakistan still has an outside chance. Must beat all three of Bangladesh, New Zealand and England, and hope that New Zealand loses to South Africa and Sri Lanka.
 
If New Zealand bats first against South Africa (the match is on 1 november 2023), then all the above hopes will be dashed.
 
One more thing. England has just learnt that not finishing at the bottom is important in order to play CT. So they will try to win all the remaining games.
 
Devadwal said:
You can win still your NRR can decrease at this point. Have you noticed yesterday Australia won but their NRR is decreased from +1.11 to 0.97. At this stage your NRR is hardly improve compared to initial stages
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It is still possible improve NRR, if you win the remaining matches with huge margins or quicker while chasing.
 
Wait Pakistan as hosts auto qualify but what happens if Pakistan finishes at the bottom?

Do the 2 sides placed > not qualify? Seems unfair

Edit: Also ik Pakistan won't finish at the bottom lol, Bangladesh likely will, but I'm just curious, think of it as a hypothetical scenario.
 
The way I understand it, it's Pakistan, plus the top seven excluding Pakistan. So if Pakistan is in the top 8, the it's the top 8. If Pakistan is 9 or 10, It's Pakistan plus the top 7.
 
I hate to break it to you guys but Pakistan are out of this tournament and will play very well to finish 6th, let alone 5th.
 
Could we talk about a more feasible prospect: Afghanistan making the semifinals. They beat England, they beat Pakistan and will likely beat Sri Lanka here too.
 
Ali Active said:
if we win all three and nz lose to Sa
we will be equal with nz
nrr will come into play
but hope there is an upset and sl win against NZ
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Thats the point...NRR is not good enough for Pak. NZ is way ahead, they basically have to lose everything for Pakistan to get through. And we're not factoring in Afghanistan either who can also end up with 10 points.
 
What’s the equation for Sri Lanka folks?

Should they lose all matches or win all?

They too can qualify I think if they win all of the remaining right leaving Pak behind.

Provided NZ lose all.
 
Pakistan is out lol. Their not mentally in it.

Max their beating Bangladesh tmr. Nz will end them and that's all she wrote.
 
Hawkeye said:
What’s the equation for Sri Lanka folks?

Should they lose all matches or win all?

They too can qualify I think if they win all of the remaining right leaving Pak behind.

Provided NZ lose all.
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SL will qualify if they win their remaining games and SAF beats NZ.

So for PAK we really hope India beats SL. Preferably even Afg today as well..
 
owenhcricket said:
Thats the point...NRR is not good enough for Pak. NZ is way ahead, they basically have to lose everything for Pakistan to get through. And we're not factoring in Afghanistan either who can also end up with 10 points.
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Afg NRR is below us and they have to play Australia and SAF still lol :)
 
msb314 said:
Afg NRR is below us and they have to play Australia and SAF still lol :)
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Fair enough, there is a chance but it relies on so many results going our way. SA beating NZ is not a given...and Pakistan actually have to win some games and it doesn't look like they can beat NZ or maybe even England.
 
owenhcricket said:
Fair enough, there is a chance but it relies on so many results going our way. SA beating NZ is not a given...and Pakistan actually have to win some games and it doesn't look like they can beat NZ or maybe even England.
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Agree it is looking difficult but we’ll know by Wednesday where this WC is heading..

Pakistan beating Bangladesh and New Zealand losing to SAF will put serious pressure on NZ when they play Pakistan.

Pakistan may get another chance but whether we take it remains to be seen
 
BouncerGuy said:
Only chance is NZ loses all of its remaining matches and Pakistan wins the remaining ones. No other scenario is going to help pakistan
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If afganistan wins their remaining 3 matches vs Ned, Aus & RSA then pak is out even if they manage to win their 3 games.

Hell, even if Afg manages to win 2 matches only they can knock out Pakistan who win 3.
 
saqib.rai said:
What's the point getting Indian coaches?

So that we can lose in crucial knockouts and only win useless bilaterals

Its shameful that a 1.4 billion population country- a one sport country hasn't won a SINGLE icc event in 10 years
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Atleast we don’t lose to Afghanistan and can win a test in Aus.

Pak is the second most populated cricketing nation.. so keep your population remark to yourself.

Useless bilateral is speciality of Babar and Rizwan not Indian team that will actually never play A team for bilateral.
 
PassionForPak said:
If afganistan wins their remaining 3 matches vs Ned, Aus & RSA then pak is out even if they manage to win their 3 games.

Hell, even if Afg manages to win 2 matches only they can knock out Pakistan who win 3.
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Two wins for Afg will probably not be enough since their NRR is below us despite their win over SL.

That is of course Pak win all three remaining games..
 
JaDed said:
Atleast we don’t lose to Afghanistan and can win a test in Aus.

Pak is the second most populated cricketing nation.. so keep your population remark to yourself.

Useless bilateral is speciality of Babar and Rizwan not Indian team that will actually never play A team for bilateral.
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You are much better than this. Why be an obstacle to someone having their cathartic release? Try to make people feel good about themselves. ps: It is " At least".
 
Rana said:
But do England want to qualify?

Do they really want to be playing an ODI ICC tournament in Pakistan?
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They probably will as it is sort of a pride issue. Since they had a full tour of pakistan recently they won't have problem touring. Only team that may back out is India.
 
Good thing for Pakistan is that they’re not genuinely only competing with Australia and NZ it seems. Rest of the teams although are as much in contention as Pakistan but we all know it’s only Pakistan which is capable of a surprise punch from here on.

It’s simple and this is the only way in my opinion.

New Zealand has to have a disastrous 2 match losing spree and they need to lose bad, very very bad.

Pakistan must win the next 2 in a smashing way.

Then we have both NZ and Pakistan at 8 points after 8 matches and we will know exactly what each team must do in their last match to beat the other.

Nobody is stopping Aussies and Southern Afrikaans now to get to the semis.
 
It's still a simple path for pak. If nz lose all 3 and if pak win all their 3 games- then nz has 8 points and pak has 10 points. So still possible as nz 3 games are against sa sl pak. But more than nz losing - I just don't see pak winning all 3. Pak games are with nz sa eng - all tough games.. there is a possibility that pak can lose all 3.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Good thing for Pakistan is that they’re not genuinely only competing with Australia and NZ it seems. Rest of the teams although are as much in contention as Pakistan but we all know it’s only Pakistan which is capable of a surprise punch from here on.

It’s simple and this is the only way in my opinion.

New Zealand has to have a disastrous 2 match losing spree and they need to lose bad, very very bad.

Pakistan must win the next 2 in a smashing way.

Then we have both NZ and Pakistan at 8 points after 8 matches and we will know exactly what each team must do in their last match to beat the other.

Nobody is stopping Aussies and Southern Afrikaans now to get to the semis.
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lol we are too far behind on NRR to compete with NZ. We have to win against Bangladesh and NZ and hope SAF beats NZ which will only then put pressure on NZ

Then our only hope is if SL do is a favor and beat them on Nov 9. Send NZ to bat first and you never know.. Anything less than 300 and SL will have a chance..

Only then Pakistan will know that any victory against England will be enough for a SF spot.

Long story short we have no chance on NRR. Get the two wins first along with help from elsewhere and then see where we stand on the final day against England..
 
msb314 said:
lol we are too far behind on NRR to compete with NZ. We have to win against Bangladesh and NZ and hope SAF beats NZ which will only then put pressure on NZ

Then our only hope is if SL do is a favor and beat them on Nov 9. Send NZ to bat first and you never know.. Anything less than 300 and SL will have a chance..

Only then Pakistan will know that any victory against England will be enough for a SF spot.

Long story short we have no chance on NRR. Get the two wins first along with help from elsewhere and then see where we stand on the final day against England..
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Yes basically, get the 2 back to back wins first and then they will know EXACTLY what to do in the last game.
 
RehanG said:
Pak will somehow manage to qualify. Dont ask me how but i know they will.
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AFG have a higher chance of reaching semis than Pakistan. AFG face NETH, AUS and SA. They are favourites against the Dutch and if SA are put to chase they will choke like they almost did against Pakistan but for the bad umpiring and lack of game awareness by Pakistan to not have batted the full 50 overs. AUS is the only match they can lose but it cannot be a sure shot win for the aussies. Even if they win 2 matches they will be on 10. If NZ loses all matches they can go through.

On the other hand Pakistan face Bangladesh and ENg both of whom will be looking to win as CT 2025 qualification is on line. Another must win match is NZ and there is no way this bowling attack will be able to contain the kiwi batsmen.
 
Pakistan's bowling attack especially spin dept is horrible. Our batting is outdated and cannot chase 350 plus totals, even when batting first, our batters don't know how to bat according to the situation and do not bat 50 overs. We are comfortably the most unfit side and the worst fielding side in the competition. We have the most paindu least game aware intelligent captain.

Based on the above, our team does not deserve to qualify for the top 4.
 
If we win big tomorrow and South Africa thump New Zealand, it is in our hands.

Afghanistan won't beat South Africa and Australia.

We could go into our last game knowing how much we need to win by. If we need to chase a target in 35 overs, we can promote Iftikhar as opener and watch him unleash the carnage.
 
PakFan2010 said:
If we win big tomorrow and South Africa thump New Zealand, it is in our hands.

Afghanistan won't beat South Africa and Australia.

We could go into our last game knowing how much we need to win by. If we need to chase a target in 35 overs, we can promote Iftikhar as opener and watch him unleash the carnage.
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NZ need to lose to SL aswell that's the biggest hurdle
 
PakFan2010 said:
No, if NZ beat SL then they end up on 10 points, which would be the same as Pak.

Pak need to beat Bangaldesh and New Zealand convincingly, our NRR will then be competitive vs NZ.
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PakFan2010 said:
If we win big tomorrow and South Africa thump New Zealand, it is in our hands.

Afghanistan won't beat South Africa and Australia.

We could go into our last game knowing how much we need to win by. If we need to chase a target in 35 overs, we can promote Iftikhar as opener and watch him unleash the carnage.
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PakFan2010 said:
No, if NZ beat SL then they end up on 10 points, which would be the same as Pak.

Pak need to beat Bangaldesh and New Zealand convincingly, our NRR will then be competitive vs NZ.
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The gap between NRR of NZ and Pakistan is too big.

“Big wins” are not enough.. the only chance we have is if both SAF and SL beat NZ and we win all our games..
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
Think the difference is 500 runs plus. That's almost impossible. NZ lose 3 we win 3 is the only way.
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Yup in that vicinity. Pak can't overtake nz nrr- just too much of a gap. Pak needs 200 or 300 run victory margins. But if as said above ifi is promoted to open and there is carnage with iftimania and pak making 500+ scores then all bets are off ! 😁
 
deltexas said:
Yup in that vicinity. Pak can't overtake nz nrr- just too much of a gap. Pak needs 200 or 300 run victory margins. But if as said above ifi is promoted to open and there is carnage with iftimania and pak making 500+ scores then all bets are off ! 😁
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Hahaha Pak bat first v bangla and aim for 400+ would be epic if we got it and bowl them out between 100-200. A dream. Kind of reminds me when I went to watch pakistans last match v Bangladesh in World Cup 2019, it was said I believe Pakistan had to score about 500 or something in first innings to have a chance to qualify. It’s almost as if we find ourselves in a similar position this World Cup, with again New Zealand our only obstacle for qualification.
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
Think the difference is 500 runs plus. That's almost impossible. NZ lose 3 we win 3 is the only way.
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Yeah it is around 500 runs.

So overcoming NRR is next to impossible as NZ don't give up on games that they will lose a match by 200 runs.

Only option is NZ to lose to SA and SL. Now that SL is out, I doubt they will have the same level of motivation to beat NZ in the final game.
 
For me, Pakistan vs South Africa was it.

Unless New Zealand somehow loses all their remaining matches, despite them being the closest team to win against India and nearly chasing ~380 runs vs Australia, then Pakistan is most likely to not reach semi finals.
 
I see some people mention 500 run gap. What happens say Bangladesh score 250 and Pak chases in 30 overs.
 
shokz1408 said:
I see some people mention 500 run gap. What happens say Bangladesh score 250 and Pak chases in 30 overs.
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Typically huge nrr deficits can only me made up by batting first and winning by huge margins. The chasing scenario you mentioned helps and reduces the nrr deficit but doesn't reduce huge nrr deficits which is the case here which can only be done by posting huge scores and restricting opposite teams..
 
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PakFan2010 said:
If we win big tomorrow and South Africa thump New Zealand, it is in our hands.

Afghanistan won't beat South Africa and Australia.

We could go into our last game knowing how much we need to win by. If we need to chase a target in 35 overs, we can promote Iftikhar as opener and watch him unleash the carnage.
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Has he ever done this i.e. "unleashed the carnage"? in a T20, ODI, PSL etc.? He doesn't appear to have....whats that word Shoaib Akhtar uses, jezba, to do this.
 
Things will spice up if Pakistan wins and New Zealand loses against South Africa.

For now, Pakistan has to focus on its part.
 
We won't reach 400, and win by 300 margins lol, but if that's the goal, just have fakhar open alongside chacha.
 
Devadwal said:
You can win still your NRR can decrease at this point. Have you noticed yesterday Australia won but their NRR is decreased from +1.11 to 0.97. At this stage your NRR is hardly improve compared to initial stages
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That's because NZ lost by a thin margin.
 
Right now we should be looking at chances of not finishing as last or second last .
 
deltexas said:
Yup in that vicinity. Pak can't overtake nz nrr- just too much of a gap. Pak needs 200 or 300 run victory margins. But if as said above ifi is promoted to open and there is carnage with iftimania and pak making 500+ scores then all bets are off ! 😁
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If the management thought Ifti is capable of that kind of carnage even once while opening in a dozen games, he would have already opened by now. He feasts on spinners and medium pacers at th death with a few edges. Against swinging or seaming ball chacha will be a duck.
 
Had pak won against SA, they would have been real semifinal contenders. I see NZ bottling against AUS, SA but winning against SL for sure. PAK has to hope NZ looses all its matches and Afghanistan does not beat either of AUS/SA. AFG too can get to 10. If PAK miraculously reach semis, they can upset india too, batting first and posting 300+
 
What a come back from Pakistan.

Suddenly they look like the e greatest bowling line up in the world once again.

The come back is on and the semis spot is up for grabs
 
I am absolutely certain Pakistan will win the next 3 to get to 10 points.

They’re going to pose a serious challenge for the 4th spot for the semis.

Back to being a forceful bowling line up. Showing jazba junior and Zinta dili
 
Pak v nz/ind/aus won’t even be a match it’ll be a mismatch better of winning a couple of games going back home with some dignity in tact.
 
Batting way too slow. Should be chasing the total in 25 overs to get a 0.4 to 0.5 NRR boost.

Unfortunately the team will take 35-40 overs and NRR will only go up by 0.2-0.3. It'll still be negative overall. So NRR hope is gone.

Only way now is by praying NZ loses all 3 of their matches.
 
Bhaijaan said:
What a come back from Pakistan.

Suddenly they look like the e greatest bowling line up in the world once again.

The come back is on and the semis spot is up for grabs
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Or maybe bangladesh were just bad
 
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