Devadwal
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Lol at concern tigers. They are just winning against minnow. Zero chances of reaching semi
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If newzealand wins against srilanka and looses against South Africa still Pakistan can reach to sf if thir runrate is above newzealand given Pakistan wins both remaining matches.I think it is impossible for Sri Lanka to beat New Zealand and Pakistan's campaign is already done and dusted for this World Cup.
Your world cup is already over . tomorrow is you guys face the reality .Hope South africa thrash nz. tomorrow
Your world cup is already over . tomorrow is you guys face the reality .
Sa can beat Nz that is not upset by any meansYour world cup is already over . tomorrow is you guys face the reality .
No way we are making it through on NRRThis win improves the chances of Pakistan making it to the semis but only marginally. Still need Kiwis to lose two out of three at the very least in convincing fashion
No way we are making it through on NRR
I did some math and its literally impossible
Need to hope New Zealand lose to SA and SL
BOTH
And win our remaining 2 matches
What's the math if newzealand looses match against Pakistan convincingly like today's match..that will take them to almost equal runrates .. forgetting their remaining matches.No way we are making it through on NRR
I did some math and its literally impossible
Need to hope New Zealand lose to SA and SL
BOTH
And win our remaining 2 matches
Should’ve not supported Babar.Our WC Campaign might realistically end tomorrow if New Zealand beat South Africa
Feeling a bit depressed thinking about it![]()
Say we chase whatever they set in 30 oversWhat's the math if newzealand looses match against Pakistan convincingly like today's match..that will take them to almost equal runrates .. forgetting their remaining matches.
Pakistan had better probability of winning against Australia . Had it not been for Warner there is no way aus was scoring 375. It was well with in paks reach if they held on to the catches and restricted aus under 330.Our tournament ended the moment Usama Mir put down that dolly against Warner.
You could even argue it happened after Babar got knocked over by Siraj.
Australia cannot realistically lose toWe keep talking about New Zealand but what about Australia ?
Pakistan played around 270 overs in this tournament.lets assume newzealand played around 290 overs.If Pakistan wins by 135 runs against newzealand than Pakistan should improve its runrate around 0.5% and newzealand should drop around 0.4% which brings them to equal footing.Say we chase whatever they set in 30 overs
They would drop down to 0.76 and we would move upto 0.24
Then they win against Sri Lanka and lose to South Africa, I would equal that out. So they remain at 0.76
I dont see us covering up 0.5 difference in one match against England. Would need to beat England by 200+ runs
NopePakistan played around 270 overs in this tournament.lets assume newzealand played around 290 overs.If Pakistan wins by 135 runs against newzealand than Pakistan should improve its runrate around 0.5% and newzealand should drop around 0.4% which brings them to equal footing.
Is there an option that Australia lose 2 out of 3 and end up below us on nrr? Can someone do the math and give scenario for their defeats and our win margins approx.
Just saw there is 80% chance of rainYou guys realize discussing all this is futile because the NZ/Pak match is gonna get rained out, which would effectively put both NZ and Pak on 9 points (considering Pak does win against ENG) and NZ goes through on NRR anyway? (Again assuming NZ lose to SA)
Lol at concern tigers. They are just winning against minnow. Zero chances of reaching semi
Afghanistan will be a big factor here. They are on the same points as us with 1 less game played.
Just saw there is 80% chance of rain
Heart just sank
So we are out of the WC
That can change though, but the issue is , I can’t see SL beating New ZealandJust saw there is 80% chance of rain
Heart just sank
So we are out of the WC
So 280 runs difference..hmmm difficult difficult in two matches..Need both sa and srilanka for your rescue.. Afghanistan laid that landmine in its defeat vs newzealand..ha ha ha..They know their business perfectly..Nope
I ran some number
That will put them at estimately 0.6 and us at 0.3. If we beat them by 135 runs
Then assuming they beat Sri Lanka and lose to South Africa
They remain at roughly the same 0.6
We cant cover 0.3 difference in one match. That too in the last match of a long tournament when averages of 9 matches have to be taken. We would need to beat England by more than 150 runs
Neither are we beating New Zealand by 135 nor England by 150
Our only way of qualifying is for New Zealand to lose to SA and SL BOTH
And for us to win the remaining 2 matches InshAllah
First question first.I feel NRR will be non issue. Real issues will be:
1. Sl beating nz
2. Us beating Eng. Yes eng is doing horrible but on paper still defending Champs and we have unique ability to bring any team back in form. Plus they will be super hard focused to get a win and finish top 8 to qualify for champions trophy.
It might be a rain affected match with Reduced overs. So not much NRR can be made up.Just saw there is 80% chance of rain
Heart just sank
So we are out of the WC
Our tournament ended the moment Usama Mir put down that dolly against Warner.
You could even argue it happened after Babar got knocked over by Siraj.
That can change though, but the issue is , I can’t see SL beating New Zealand
You guys realize discussing all this is futile because the NZ/Pak match is gonna get rained out, which would effectively put both NZ and Pak on 9 points (considering Pak does win against ENG) and NZ goes through on NRR anyway? (Again assuming NZ lose to SA)
Just saw there is 80% chance of rain
Heart just sank
So we are out of the WC
Poor post man. Give credit
They won't qualify.
75% but it's still early could change
That can change though, but the issue is , I can’t see SL beating New Zealand
If only we had won against SA , this is beyond cornered Tigers levelCornered Tiger mode - ACTIVATED
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Giving edge to South Africa against India while chasing is bad bet especially against bumra shami kuldeep jadeja ..They need to do much more for that especially in Indian pitches..Plagued by negativity in these forums.. we've played one horrible game - otherwise the results are about what were expected. The NZ v SA and NZ v PAK results will give clarity on the situation we're all in.
I do have SA beating both NZ & IND on current form, especially if they bat first. But to be honest, even if SA are chasing I give them an upper hand because in Markram they have someone who is willing to stay at the crease and see the team through - he almost did vs Pakistan.
Pakistan will have to win against NZ and ENG to have a realistic chance, and then it might come down to NRR - exciting for me, Pak team always keeping fans on edge![]()
Not saying they're huge favorites by any stretch of the imagination. India has clearly been the most consistent team this tournament and have the best bowling attack for these conditions by a good margin!Giving edge to South Africa against India while chasing is bad bet especially against bumra shami kuldeep jadeja ..They need to do much more for that especially in Indian pitches..
No. I think we will have left it too late, like 2019.Indian fan here. If SA beats NZ, I see a repeat of 1992 happening where pak had to rely on AUS beating WI in 1992. Similarly PAK to win last two matches and hope SL beating NZ.
We need England to defeat them heavily which is unlikely to happen. Afghanistan could run them close as well too I reckon.Why are you counting on only NZ losing?
I think Australia could lose against England and Bangladesh as well![]()
pak will beat Nz they are kinda in form right now . they will beat them they have regained confidenceWe beat the weakest team of the tournament.
Bro, Even if all goes well, Pakistan beating NZ is a huge hurdle
Oh bhai, Bangladesh batting was giving wickets away casually. Only shaheen bowled proper wicket taking deliveries. Otherwise their batsmen are poor like liton das just handing his wicket to chacha lolpak will beat Nz they are kinda in form right now . they will beat them they have regained confidence
Playing 50 overs was against SA was in Pakistans control. Basic mistake . 2022 t20 final too, they were all outNo. I think we will have left it too late, like 2019.
That Rauf umpires call Vs SA is going to be the difference unfortunately. Such fine margins.
We have not helped ourselves but the difference will be on a decision
Playing 50 overs was against SA was in Pakistans control. Basic mistake . 2022 t20 final too, they were all out
Given an opportunity, the mask slips eventually.You post good stuff occasionally but these posts ruin your reputation
Oh bhai, Bangladesh batting was giving wickets away casually. Only shaheen bowled proper wicket taking deliveries. Otherwise their batsmen are poor like liton das just handing his wicket to chacha lol
And batting wise, fakhar batted well but Bangladesh bowling is toothless.
Once again Pakistan is stuck back to hoping for a fakhar zaman miracle.
Nz is a quality team, it'll be a miracle for Pakistan to beat them. Their far > Afg even spin department wise due to satner
They'll hate constantly but when someone performs once in a blue moon like rizwan 131 against a weak bowling unit or imam's 152 which was Ages ago and once in a blue moon, everyone will go goo goo ga ga and act like we are a champions team.Why are people celebrating beating an underperforming minnow?
That is far more than what needs to happen. NZ losing all 3 and us winning remaining 2 would be enough. NZ only losing to SA and Pak may be enough too. It's just too early to decide. We're not depending on anyone doing anything. Simply too early to tell.Pakistan's qualification scenario for Semi Finals:
- Defeat NZ and England.
- Aus or SA defeat Afghanistan.
- SA and SL defeat NZ.
- India beat SL and Ned.
Nah Pakistan will lose to either NZ or England. So it won't even be close. We will finish on 4 wins.No. I think we will have left it too late, like 2019.
That Rauf umpires call Vs SA is going to be the difference unfortunately. Such fine margins.
We have not helped ourselves but the difference will be on a decision
Did Pakistan not benefit earlier in the innings with van der Dussen's wicket? It was even more unlucky for SA as it was two umpire's calls on pitching and hitting wickets. It is funny calling just the one which went against Pakistan as the differentiator. SA can say the same that they would have won comfortably if van der Dussen hadn't been given out as he is their anchor. He averages 96 vs Pakistan. These things happen in cricket and they cannot be taken as the reason for defeat. Pakistan collapsing and scoring only 270 after being 225/5 in 40 users is the reason for defeat.No. I think we will have left it too late, like 2019.
That Rauf umpires call Vs SA is going to be the difference unfortunately. Such fine margins.
We have not helped ourselves but the difference will be on a decision
This is exactly the fallacy I'm talking about - whether or not a team deserves to be in the semifinal is an irrelevant question with regards to how good they actually are.before making scenario's ask your self does Babar and his team deserve being in the semi finals
i would rather watch 2 best teams in the semi final and the finals fight for the world cup, last thing i want to see is Pakistan batting lineup collapsing or bowlers getting bashed
Why are people celebrating beating an underperforming minnow?
SA will say only if Usama Mir's appeal against Rassie went in our favour.Only if that Harris Rauf appeal went our way against SA
Man these excuses get tiring after a while. Why not just accept that Pak played badly which is what happened.. their bowling was poor throughout the tournament as well as their fielding..those were the causes .. in 2019 wc sf kohlis lbw was an umpire's call but nobody said that was the reason for the defeat. The fact was the entire ind batting collapsed that day, ind had a poor middle order with wrong selection and ms dhoni tuk tuked to nowhere... pak team performance was bad this WC period..and they still have to beat nz and sa which a lot of forum guys here are assuming it's a done deal...SA will say only if Usama Mir's appeal against Rassie went in our favour.
I agree with you that us winning and New Zealand losing would be enoughThat is far more than what needs to happen. NZ losing all 3 and us winning remaining 2 would be enough. NZ only losing to SA and Pak may be enough too. It's just too early to decide. We're not depending on anyone doing anything. Simply too early to tell.
Pak making it on nrr is virrually impossible as you say. The nrr math calculations.just don't work.I agree with you that us winning and New Zealand losing would be enough
However, NZ need to lose to SA and SL BOTH
run numbers yourself and you would see we are not going through on NRR. It's an impossibility
Hopefully, SL can do what Netherland did for us last year
wasn't this the case in 1992 too in terms of relying on others?Hoping for a New Zealand victory tomorrow. Excellent team who deserve to be in the semifinals ahead of a bunch of talentless and unprofessional players who are always banking on others to save them.