PCB set to reappoint Babar Azam as captain ahead of the T20 World Cup 2024

[Usman Chadda]

Shaheen is on board with this decision because he understands that he needs to focus on regaining his form. Also, Shahid Afridi has advised him to not worry about captaincy at this stage. He was unhappy with his appointment in the first place because it wasn't the right moment in his career.

PCB needs to make sure Shaheen is taken care of psychologically after this, if what you say is true then that’s good news.

Shaheen’s grievances should be with Zaka Ashraf, who sacrificed Shaheen just due to his fragile ego getting hurt.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Babar lost 2 home test series and drew 1 within an year. He was the first Pakistan captain to get whitewashed at home.

I really don’t think Babar is a good captain, but anyone with this current team would have got whitewashed by England in that series.

Our champion of champions Sarfraz bhai got whitewashed by Sri Lanka in the UAE, where our tootay phottay spinners used to take wickets on helpful surfaces.

 

[Rana]

So one of Babar’s mouthpiece journos on Twitter confirmed Babar hasn’t been offered captaincy just as I suspected.

This isn’t my reliable source btw.

So everyone, calm your horses!

 

[MenInG]

So one of Babar’s mouthpiece journos on Twitter confirmed Babar hasn’t been offered captaincy just as I suspected.

This isn’t my reliable source btw.

So everyone, calm your horses!

Bro you are turning this into an Eid moon sighting type activity

 

[Rana]

Bro you are turning this into an Eid moon sighting type activity

What about the guys claiming Naqvi met Babar and Babar said he wants all 3 format captaincy

 

[Rana]

@mominsaigol @topspin @CerebralPatriot @YousafTheBeast

Has Babar officially been announced as captain yet or can you see some early Diwali fireworks going off by his fanbase?

 

[Savak]

Lol at those saying Shaheen is on board with this?

He is demanding a meeting with Mohsin Naqvi and the selection committee so that they give him a good reason why they want to axe him as captain just on the basis of one series and the PSL.

I predict the excuse the PCB Chairman, Selection Committee will use to justify this move is Shaheen's form and workload management.

 

[Rana]

Lol at those saying Shaheen is on board with this?

He is demanding a meeting with Mohsin Naqvi and the selection committee so that they give him a good reason why they want to axe him as captain just on the basis of one series and the PSL.

I predict the excuse the PCB Chairman, Selection Committee will use to justify this move is Shaheen's form and workload management.

Relax. They are not axing him. Calm down.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

@mominsaigol @topspin @CerebralPatriot @YousafTheBeast

Has Babar officially been announced as captain yet or can you see some early Diwali fireworks going off by his fanbase?

Can’t find anything official as of yet, but I’m pretty sure the likes of @Mamoon and others are trembling in fear right now, they’re doing bhangra before the official announcement and it’ll be a pie on the face if he doesn’t take the captaincy. Reputations of a few posters are on stake.

 

[SportsWarrior]

T20 not sure, but for tests Babar should be back. I voted yes for T20 too as i feel Shaheen is really immature and not suited for captaincy. Either Babar or Rizwan has to take over.

 

[PakWC'11Champs]

cricinfo is reporting as a matter of fact that SSA has been stripped and Babar has been offered, but Babar doesn't want to agree unless it's for all 3 formats.

What a mess. Chairmans coming and going. Constant changes. Just like our politics, but due to the politics that is why the board chairman has been changed so often as well. Sigh.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

cricinfo is reporting as a matter of fact that SSA has been stripped and Babar has been offered, but Babar doesn't want to agree unless it's for all 3 formats.

What a mess. Chairmans coming and going. Constant changes. Just like our politics, but due to the politics that is why the board chairman has been changed so often as well. Sigh.

Nothing has been confirmed yet. The way things are unfolding you never know if we will get someone else as a captain other than both Shaheen and Babar.

 

[Mamoon]

Can’t find anything official as of yet, but I’m pretty sure the likes of @Mamoon and others are trembling in fear right now, they’re doing bhangra before the official announcement and it’ll be a pie on the face if he doesn’t take the captaincy. Reputations of a few posters are on stake.

This post will be less successful than Sharjeel’s career. I don’t need to say more.

 

[Bewal Express]

Lol at those saying Shaheen is on board with this?

He is demanding a meeting with Mohsin Naqvi and the selection committee so that they give him a good reason why they want to axe him as captain just on the basis of one series and the PSL.

I predict the excuse the PCB Chairman, Selection Committee will use to justify this move is Shaheen's form and workload management.

I think SSA is thick as mince but once he was given the job then he needed to be given a fair run. It shows the recklessness of buffoons that run the PCB, that they aren't aware that this will create ruptions in an already broken team lacking confidence and strategy.

 

[ads101]

If we are bringing back Amir and Imad you can’t bring back Babar. Just creates a whole bad feeling amongst the squad. Similarly I wouldn’t have Imad captain now either.

Shadab could be captain now. I don’t think anyone would hate playing under him as captain now.

 

[mominsaigol]

Babar as captain just means war lol

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Babar as captain just means war lol

then war has just begun with the slogan "World Cup to war gya"

 

[topspin]

I liked what I saw from Babar in the PSL. I admired some of the sophistication of his thinking and decision-making.

Is this some sort of joke?

Babar has always had Sammy to hold his hand and still flopped in the 2 x eliminators when it mattered the most.

 

[topspin]

@mominsaigol @topspin @CerebralPatriot @YousafTheBeast

Has Babar officially been announced as captain yet or can you see some early Diwali fireworks going off by his fanbase?

I get the impression Mamoon might be well connected with Babar/PZ and knows what's going on.

I hate to say it and I hope I'm wrong, but it looks Babar will captain Pakistan in the 2024 WT20.

 

[topspin]

But that humiliation would be nothing compared to the humiliation that you, @Rana, @topspin, @CerebralPatriot, @YousafTheBeast are going through right now, thanks to this unforeseen twist in the tale that you guys never expected in your wildest dreams.

I bet a lot of you guys are hoping this is a bad dream that you will wake up from any time now.

What I find amusing is how you've gone from "Babar is selfish" and "Babar will never chase 300+..." to "Babar is world class" and "Babar is a Ferrari" in a period of under six months.

I respect the likes of @heddie19 @Mobashir and etc because unlike you they are authentic supporters of Babar Azam.

If Babar does get reappointed, we all know this is once again going to end in tears. I've bookmarked your post, so when that day comes, I promise you'll be driven out of the cricket side of PP, just like how I drove you out of the Arsenal thread.

 

[mominsaigol]

I get the impression Mamoon might be well connected with Babar/PZ and knows what's going on.

I hate to say it and I hope I'm wrong, but it looks Babar will captain Pakistan in the 2024 WT20.

I don't mind Bobby being captain tbh.

This delusion needs to end. The reality is our team is completly down in the dumps rn and no captain is gonna fix it, especially not a captain who caused this decline in the first place.

Also this isn't wc 2022 where kudrat ki nazam will work.

In wc 2022 to reach the semi final, you just needed to be top 2 in your group. Our group was Pakistan, India, Nedtherlands, Zimbabwe and SA. We didn't have to face Australia, England, New Zealand or Afghanistan (Who's spin would have been a huge problem for us and their fast bowlers would be ironically deadly due to the bouncy pitch).

Since we didn't face those lads, semi final spot was guaranteed, yet despite that we lost to Zimbabwe, lost to India, needed help from Nedtherlands to pull and upset and struggled against bamgaldesh lol.

Our only convincing victories were NZ and SA, SA we got lucky with the toss as SA is a horrible chasing team that struggles against minnows while chasing, NZ we won genuinely as their were offcolor so agreed.

T20 2022 was extremely lucky. This time however after group stages we have super 8, in the super 8 we face SENA and India. We have no chance.

The structure of 2022 was horrible and likely shortened due to covid tbh. 2024 structure doesn't allow us the whole kudrat ki nazam thing.

 

[topspin]

If the rumours are indeed true about PCB's desire to reappoint Babar for the upcoming WT20 and in response have received a demand from him to captain in all 3 x formats, then I hope somehow the PCB can come to their senses. Babar's shameless entitlement is a clear red flag.

Even if he was the best batsman in the world, he's not fit to captain because he's selfish, tactically clueless and a meek individual.

As for Babar's track record of failure as captain:

• 2021 WT20
• 2022 Asia Cup
• 2022 WT20
• 2023 Asia Cup
• 2023 ODI WC
• Lost home series to Australia at home in 2022 and England in 2023

 

[msb314]

Such a biased and unfair example.

Babar hasn't won a single thing, that alone doesn't qualify him to be better then the candidates you mentioned. Sarfraz winning an icc trophy puts him echelons > Babar’s horror show in 2023 WC.

Babar beating c string sides and falsely leading fans to believe we are no 1 lol, when Australia beat Pakistan black amd blue in a real game and in a warmup best us despite bowling Warner and Smith lol, Whereas inzimam use to win bilateral against proper opponents.

Almost all the captains you mentioned besides the obvious jone ones like azhar and rashid latif have been superior to babar ad captains including misbah of all people.

And afridi wasn't a bad captain by any means. He took his side to 2 semi finals and only got eliminated in the cups by the strongest teams (Australia In 2010 ans India in 2011)

That alone puts him far superior to anything Bobby has ever done which is flunk miserably.

Sorry buddy but Afridi was a horrible captain. Even you and me could have taken that Pakistan team to the SF with Afridi, Ajmal and Hafeez all bowling is their prime lol

Afridi rightfully got removed from ODI captaincy after the 2011 WC and we saw his poor decision making in the 2016 WorldT20. Even Waqar as coach complained about how bad Afridi was lol

 

[msb314]

Babar lost 2 home test series and drew 1 within a year. He was the first Pakistan captain to get whitewashed at home.

With the Test team Babar had (no fast bowlers and Sajid being our lead spinner..) any captain would have been whitewashed at home.

We actually punched above our weight to “only” lose 1-0 to Aus and draw 0-0 with NZ

 

[mominsaigol]

Sorry buddy but Afridi was a horrible captain. Even you and me could have taken that Pakistan team to the SF with Afridi, Ajmal and Hafeez all bowling is their prime lol

Afridi rightfully got removed from ODI captaincy after the 2011 WC and we saw his poor decision making in the 2016 WorldT20. Even Waqar as coach complained about how bad Afridi was lol.

Untrue, 2016 is a different story, it's basically the whole sarfraz case where he went from being a goat captain to relaxing after ct 2017.

Firstly 2010 and 2011 afridi was a huge contributor in getting Pakistan to reach the sf and only lose to the 2 strongest teams in the tournament, his bowling + his drs reviews were always solid, and as a captain a player must be a match winner, not like babar or shan masood lol.

Secondly our 2011 team isn't strong, it's weak but because it was so gelled together it managed to dominate everyone in the group stages besides NZ, and give trouble to an all-star Indian team in 2011.

Look at our 2011 team

1) Kamran akmal (one hit wonder batsmen)
2) Hafeez( Terrible opener but gun allrounder)
3) Asad shafiq (lol)
4) YK (Lol)
5) Misbah (Mohali)
6) Umar akmal (One hit wonder)
7) Afridi (One hit wonder)
8) Razzaq (Spent force in 2011)
9) Wahab riaz (Avg bowler)
10) Umar Gul (good in 2011)
11) Saeed ajmal (Chuck ajmal had to carry)

Despite all this and the fact that none of our batsmen could even get to an individual 100, and even got bowled put for 180 against Canada,

This team still ended Australia's unbeaten streak and defeated an all star Sri lankan 11 which included Sangakara, dilshan etc whereas our current team would get butchered by this Sri lankan team.

We got as far as we did because just like 2023 Australia, the team was gelled and united enough and aggressive enough under Afridi to get to the semi final. The 2011 team wasn't strong at all, the batting is beyond fragile and the bowlers are spent forces, only the spinners are world class, yet the way wahab riaz, unar gul and even kamran and hafeez gelled together at the top made it a solid team.

This 2011 team would murder our 2023 team lol despite being weaker on paper, the 2023 team composes of run machines and a non existent middle order lol.

 

[Sunny_majoka]

Babar is not a natural leader however, he is the only realistic option we have ATM.

Shaheen is more selfish or I'll say foolish. As he promotes himself above other batsmen in team.

Rizwan should not be in team. Only one of Rizwan or Babar should play.

 

[CerebralPatriot]

Babar is not a natural leader however, he is the only realistic option we have ATM.

Shaheen is more selfish or I'll say foolish. As he promotes himself above other batsmen in team.

Rizwan should not be in team. Only one of Rizwan or Babar should play.

We have Saud, Imad and sarfraz with the former two being much better cricketers than babr can ever dream to be, so no we are not out of options.

It’s just the fact that the man in your profile is one of the most corrupt characters in PCT

 

[Vikram1989]

Before offering all format captaincy to babar,are pak selectors demanding anything from him? They can demand a t20 cup , aus series/eng series for short term and number 1/2 ranks in test team for a wtc final spot etc.Atleast it should put some pressure on him than a uncontrolled authority with no answerability like last time.

 

[BouncerGuy]

one of the most corrupt characters in PCT

Do you have any proof of his corruption? Does losing games mean corruption? I am not in favor of Babar being made captain again but saying he is one of the most corrupt guys is not a healthy argument to not make him captain again.

I will keep shaheen as the captain. Cannot just dump a guy after 1 series.

 

[Mohraheem]

Do you have any proof of his corruption? Does losing games mean corruption? I am not in favor of Babar being made captain again but saying he is one of the most corrupt guys is not a healthy argument to not make him captain again.

I will keep shaheen as the captain. Cannot just dump a guy after 1 series.

He spelt Misbah wrong… he is the most corrupt person in Pakistan cricket

 

[mominsaigol]

Do you have any proof of his corruption? Does losing games mean corruption? I am not in favor of Babar being made captain again but saying he is one of the most corrupt guys is not a healthy argument to not make him captain again.

I will keep shaheen as the captain. Cannot just dump a guy after 1 series.

Corruption is now adays a loose term being thrown around.

Babar isn't per say corrupt as in he's a greedy money hounding official but he enjoys making Pakistan his boy in a band.

Aka he enjoys turning it into a clique. Pakistan cricket team needs to be viewed from a business perspective, you are a team and your goal is to win the cup as a team, hence you must select the members that aren't just good at their jobs but are most efficient in the roles assigned to meet optimum results.

Obviously if you shove the business with your own friends and family and buddies, then it creates a conflict of interest and optimum results aren't achieved.

Babar claiming mawaz and shadab are his goat bowlers when these 2 got thrashed in asia cup left and right is a primary example of why conflict of interest doesn't work. Hence that is a form of corruption albeit an indirect one

 

[Slim]

Before offering all format captaincy to babar,are pak selectors demanding anything from him? They can demand a t20 cup , aus series/eng series for short term and number 1/2 ranks in test team for a wtc final spot etc.Atleast it should put some pressure on him than a uncontrolled authority with no answerability like last time.

Theres zero accountability for Babar.

Our standards somehow fell so low, that we forgot that we lost to Afghanistan in a Worldcup ODI match, we lost to zimbabwe in a t20 WC. This is an epitome of mediocrity.

Did someone hold Babar and his team accountable for these extremely humiliating defeats? No.

But this is not new, we rewarded Misbah for Mohali by making him captain of the national team. Time is a flat circle for PCB. I hope and expect different from the new mgmt.

 

[BouncerGuy]

What does it mean "BACK"? Is Babar giving hints? or is he just talking about him being back to training?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1773797282602692651

 

[MANU ROY]

What does it mean "BACK"? Is Babar giving hints? or is he just talking about him being back to training?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1773797282602692651

so we can confirm that Babar back as captain

 

[BouncerGuy]

Pakistan Cricket Board Selectors Visit Kakul Military Camp To Negotiate Captaincy in All Formats With Babar Azam

After a late night meeting on Friday between selectors and PCB (Pakistan Cricket Board) Chairman Mohsin Naqvi; selectors are on their way to the military academy Kakul in Abbottabad to meet with star Pakistani batsman Babar Azam and convince him to take the captaincy slot in all formats for the national cricket team. As per reliable sources, the team of selectors will be in Kakul to persuade Babar Azam to take up the role of captain for T20Is and all other formats, replacing the current captain Shaheen Shah Afridi. Pakistan Cricket Board Looking To Bring Babar Azam Back As Captain: Sources

"The decision emerged from a late-night meeting between Chairman PCB Mohsin Naqvi and the selectors," the source confirmed.

As per details, the selectors will be convincing Babar Azam to become captain of the national cricket team until the upcoming T20I World Cup. On the other hand, Babar Azam is more interested in entering into a long-term position as captain, which should not be limited till the T20I World Cup.

"Babar has already communicated to the PCB that he wishes to lead the national team across all formats and has kept it as a pre[1]condition to consider captaincy in the T20I format," the source revealed.

Sources close to the star batsmen have also advised Babar Azam to push his demands in front of the PCB as this is the right time.

"PCB is vulnerable right now. They want Babar for the T20I World Cup. And they would have to agree with his demands because of the board's vulnerable position," said the source.

While the PCB selectors are discussing the next T20I captain and reaching out to Babar Azam; the current captain Shaheen Shah Afridi has been kept in the dark on the PCB decision.

"There is a clear lack of communication between the PCB and Shaheen Shah Afridi, which is concerning. None of the selectors nor the PCB Chairman himself have reached out to Shaheen Shah Afridi in refence to the ongoing discussion about his replacement," the source added.

But the news about a probable change has raised eyebrows among many, who have criticised the PCB for being silent on the matter and letting rumours and speculations take up the space in debates. Former cricketer Shahid Afridi has said that it would be unfair to remove Shaheen Shah Afridi, that also after he lead the team in only one series. Shaheen Afridi has been actively gearing up for the upcoming World Cup and has played pivotal role in convincing Imad Wasim and Mohammad Amir to return to international cricket and take back their retirements

It was said that Shaheen had reached out to both the cricketers and bring them back into the squad to enhance national team's performance. But the way Shaheen has been kept in the dark about his probable replacement from the captaincy position has certainly raised questions over the working mechanisms of the PCB.

SOURCE: https://www.latestly.com/sports/cri...y-in-all-formats-with-babar-azam-5856197.html

 

[Mamoon]

Is this some sort of joke?

Babar has always had Sammy to hold his hand and still flopped in the 2 x eliminators when it mattered the most.

So Sammy takes the credit for the good tactical decisions but Babar takes the blame for the bad ones?

 

[Rana]

So Sammy takes the credit for the good tactical decisions but Babar takes the blame for the bad ones?

Babar takes the blame because fans would argue rigorously that he has evolved to a new level in T20 because of playing a ramp shot against Hunain Shah

 

[Rana]

I feel the PCB coming Kukul to negotiate with Babar narrative is similar to the establishment coming to Adiala to negotiate with Khan narrative

One sided lol

 

[Mamoon]

What I find amusing is how you've gone from "Babar is selfish" and "Babar will never chase 300+..." to "Babar is world class" and "Babar is a Ferrari" in a period of under six months.

Babar vs Kohli/Rohit and other Indian batsmen who I think are better than him and Babar vs Imad/Amir and his status in Pakistan are two completely different lines of argument.

Unfortunately, people who possess a one-track mind cannot understand the nuances and intricacies of two completely different debates that shouldn’t be juxtaposed in the first place.

I respect the likes of @heddie19 @Mobashir and etc because unlike you they are authentic supporters of Babar Azam.

If Babar does get reappointed, we all know this is once again going to end in tears.

What tears? We need to understand that Pakistan is a middling team and they have a very small chance of beating the top sides and whoever is the captain will not make any significant difference to the outcomes because the core problem is the lack of talent and skill at our disposal.

If not Babar, who can be the captain? There are no better options and that makes Babar the default choice. Regardless of where Babar stands or doesn’t stand in world cricket, he is untouchable within Pakistan cricket because no one can compete with in terms of performances, consistency and stature.

Delusional people were waxing lyrical about Shan Masood, the most pathetic Test batsman this country has ever seen, but for all his so-called inspiring leadership and tactical brilliance, he still returned from Australia with a 3-0 whitewash on his head and let’s not forget that this was an out of sorts Australian side that dropped a Test to the West Indies.

West Indies drawing the series really showed up and exposed the myth that Masood did a good job as captain. Had he done a good job, Pakistan would not have been whitewashed.

Moreover, let’s not forget how he let Australia off the hook at the MCG when they were 16/4. Had this been on Babar or any other captain’s watch, he would have been criticized to death but perhaps Masood’s English makes him immune to criticism from people who think that speaking fluent English is all that it takes to be a captain.

I've bookmarked your post, so when that day comes, I promise you'll be driven out of the cricket side of PP, just like how I drove you out of the Arsenal thread.

That is hysterical because I took you to school in the Mikel Arteta thread (post #928) and you couldn’t muster the courage to respond.

 

[Mamoon]

Shan Masood - explained above. Making him captain is a complete farce because he is not good enough to be justify a place in the Pakistan reserve team.

Shaheen Afridi - needs to focus on his form and fitness

Rizwan - not viewed as captain material by the PCB. He is a bridesmaid but never the bride. PCB seems him as a permanent vice-captain.

Shadab - Not a good enough player to justify a permanent position in the Test and ODI team.

Babar is the only viable option for captaincy at this point whether you are looking at all format captaincy or segregating LOIs and Test captaincy.

 

[Mamoon]

Babar takes the blame because fans would argue rigorously that he has evolved to a new level in T20 because of playing a ramp shot against Hunain Shah

You didn’t answer my question - we are not talking about Babar’s batting here although he did own his critics in royal fashion by having the highest SR in PP in the league stage.

He made the likes of Roy, Hales, Munro and other powerhouses look slow.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

You didn’t answer my question - we are not talking about Babar’s batting here although he did own his critics in royal fashion by having the highest SR in PP in the league stage.

He made the likes of Roy, Hales, Munro and other powerhouses look slow.

There is no question that Babar and Saim were the best openers in the PSL.

The question really is whether it is worth making him captain , since the weight of captaincy clearly affected his batting.

I don't think it's a good trade off. His captaincy during the World Cup was poor, only Bavuma and Buttler were worse.

At the end of the day captaincy matters naught if you aren't getting the best out of your players .

 

[Rana]

You didn’t answer my question - we are not talking about Babar’s batting here although he did own his critics in royal fashion by having the highest SR in PP in the league stage.

He made the likes of Roy, Hales, Munro and other powerhouses look slow.

Yes the likes of retired and over the hill Roy, Hales and Munro were slower than Babar this time in the powerplay. But even now, even now they are better T20 openers and match winners than Babar.

We can revisit your thousands of posts that have argued this over the years. Babar at his peak cannot do things Guptil in his retirement home stage of cricket can do. How sad is that?

 

[Rana]

There is no question that Babar and Saim were the best openers in the PSL.

The question really is whether it is worth making him captain , since the weight of captaincy clearly affected his batting.

I don't think it's a good trade off. His captaincy during the World Cup was poor, only Bavuma and Buttler were worse.

At the end of the day captaincy matters naught if you aren't getting the best out of your players .

What do you mean there is no question??

Guptil in this PSL short sample was better than both of them.

Saud was a better opener than Saim. I love Saim but how can you just say “there is no question”?

 

[daytrader]

He spelt Misbah wrong… he is the most corrupt person in Pakistan cricket

Lol are you for real ​

 

[Rana]

Day 3 of Shaheen Brexit negotiations with Babar

Still Babar isn’t captain

 

[RKhan_Cricket]

I mean, I am also against Babar being the all-format captain.

But I have two questions here, which I would like to share with you.

1. If Babar is telling them that he needs an all-format captaincy, does that mean that he is fully assured that captaincy doesn't affect his batting? Or he cannot play under someone else, and that's why he will sacrifice his batting for captaincy.

2. If Babar is not your choice for captaincy, then who do you want? Because when I am reading the possible squads for the future Test, T20I, and Odi's,. There is not a single person on that squad who is consistent and who is the first name on the sheet for all formats except Babar, Shaheen (although in bad form), Rizwan, and Naseem Shah.

Babar: You don't want him to become a captain.

Shaheen : He is too young and impatient, and there are guys here on PP who don't want him either.

Rizwan: Not many are interested in him.

Naseem: ?

 

[Nikhil_cric]

What do you mean there is no question??

Guptil in this PSL short sample was better than both of them.

Saud was a better opener than Saim. I love Saim but how can you just say “there is no question”?

Guptill is not Pakistani and therefore not up for selection.

Saim Ayub strike rate - 157, Shakeel - 141

More explosive and a 6th bowling option.

 

[mominsaigol]

Guptill is not Pakistani and therefore not up for selection.

Saim Ayub strike rate - 157, Shakeel - 141

More explosive and a 6th bowling option.

Shakeel is more technically sound tbf and better at strike rotation.

Saim is more explosive and I would definitely invest in him to try to turn his world class but saim isn't exactly a goat atm. He's more likely to turn into a walking wicket in more occasions then not.

 

[RKhan_Cricket]

A poem that Babar's father wrote in Urdu for his son is making the rounds on X. Many people assume that he wrote it to remind Babar to proceed cautiously and to never forget how he lost captaincy in the first place. If he accepts it again, they would humiliate him once more. Son, be careful when making decisions in the future. I found out from X that. It may also be incorrect; but, because I no longer use Instagram, I would have verified it there on my own.

Babar will probably need some time to consider his options since, in my opinion, either taking this action will propel him to the top or it will ruin his career and leave him with many scars that will remain long after he retires from cricket.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Shakeel is more technically sound tbf and better at strike rotation.

Saim is more explosive and I would definitely invest in him to try to turn his world class but saim isn't exactly a goat atm. He's more likely to turn into a walking wicket in more occasions then not.

Shakeel is no goat either. Shakeel and Babar are too similar. Strike rotation in a T20 powerplay is not that important.

Babar can do that Shakeel job and even better. You need a gun hitter at the other end to maximise the powerplay . And like I said he offered a genuine 6th bowling option as well.

Saim offers more from a combination POV than Shakeel does

 

[mominsaigol]

Shakeel is no goat either. Shakeel and Babar are too similar. Strike rotation in a T20 powerplay is not that important.

Babar can do that Shakeel job and even better. You need a gun hitter at the other end to maximise the powerplay . And like I said he offered a genuine 6th bowling option as well.

Saim offers more from a combination POV than Shakeel does

I think @Rana Meant that saud is more technically sound and is better for him to replace rizwan and play alongside saim, since in past comments he's mentioned this in detail.

Also I disagree, Saud hasn't had enough chances, in test he's played well minus Australia, and in odi their using Jim in the wrong position, he isn't a no 5, he's 100% either a no 4 or no 3

 

[Nikhil_cric]

I think @Rana Meant that saud is more technically sound and is better for him to replace rizwan and play alongside saim, since in past comments he's mentioned this in detail.

Also I disagree, Saud hasn't had enough chances, in test he's played well minus Australia, and in odi their using Jim in the wrong position, he isn't a no 5, he's 100% either a no 4 or no 3

From whatever chances Saud has had , he has a really not been great against spin in white ball cricket. This was seen in the World Cup as well when he struggled against Kuldeep, the SL spinners etc.

Which is probably why he opened in the PSL.

As opener, I would never take Rizwan or Saud ahead of a Babar/Saim combo.

It would be a mistake to play either imo.

 

[daytrader]

What does it mean "BACK"? Is Babar giving hints? or is he just talking about him being back to training?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1773797282602692651

Babar Sherr! Might even get to select his own coaches

 

[Usman Chadda]

I think @Rana Meant that saud is more technically sound and is better for him to replace rizwan and play alongside saim, since in past comments he's mentioned this in detail.

Also I disagree, Saud hasn't had enough chances, in test he's played well minus Australia, and in odi their using Jim in the wrong position, he isn't a no 5, he's 100% either a no 4 or no 3

Saud got exposed in the World Cup, he is mediocre. Agha Salman should have been played in his spot and the output would have been slightly better.

 

[Shafi]

Shaheen Afridi has proved to be extremely selfless. The white ball captaincy was his property but he didn’t let his ego get in the way, and understood that the P0 for him is to focus on his form and fitness right now.

It is a blessing to have players and characters like him in the team.

You will not win any cup under any of Babar and Shaheen in next 10 years guaranteed.

 

[PakPremi]

Babar Sherr! Might even get to select his own coaches

Talking about Sher Babar re-appointment is re-selecting Sharifs back to government, disaster will repeat.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

How long does it take for a board to announce a freakin’ captain lmao.

PCB needs to scrap the PSL, make a Netflix show of the Pakistan team and how the PCB runs it. You’ll probably make more money from it with all the drama behind the scenes.

 

[Mamoon]

You will not win any cup under any of Babar and Shaheen in next 10 years guaranteed.

That’s fine, cups are overrated anyway. Consistent performances over a long period and sustaining high ranking shows the real quality of a team.

India haven’t won a cup in the last 10 years but this period has still been phenomenal for India. In comparison, Pakistan has won a cup more recently than India but every Pakistani fan would swap the last 10 years with India because India’s overall consistency and performances across formats have been a thousand times better than Pakistan.

Since 2000, the West Indies have won 3 cups. Only Australia and India have won more cups in this period. England have also won 3.

However, no one would look at this period and consider the West Indies as the most successful cricket team after Australia and India and on par with England.

The West Indies have been borderline minnows in spite of winning cups because they lack consistency over a period of time.

For example, South Africa with 0 cups have been 100x better than West Indies with 3 cups.

 

[Rana]

That’s fine, cups are overrated anyway. Consistent performances over a long period and sustaining high ranking shows the real quality of a team.

India haven’t won a cup in the last 10 years but this period has still been phenomenal for India. In comparison, Pakistan has won a cup more recently than India but every Pakistani fan would swap the last 10 years with India because India’s overall consistency and performances across formats have been a thousand times better than Pakistan.

Since 2000, the West Indies have won 3 cups. Only Australia and India have won more cups in this period. England have also won 3.

However, no one would look at this period and consider the West Indies as the most successful cricket team after Australia and India and on par with England.

The West Indies have been borderline minnows in spite of winning cups because they lack consistency over a period of time.

For example, South Africa with 0 cups have been 100x better than West Indies with 3 cups.

Remind me of the consistency achieved by Babar Azam during the home test season? Consistency in mediocrity? And the consistency in poor outings that began in the 2022 T20 World Cup (yes we had no business reaching the semi finals in the first place) and the horror shows to follow in the Asia cup and World Cup in 2023?

How has the team grown towards positivity under him? And not growing in mediocrity?

 

[Mamoon]

Remind me of the consistency achieved by Babar Azam during the home test season? Consistency in mediocrity? And the consistency in poor outings that began in the 2022 T20 World Cup (yes we had no business reaching the semi finals in the first place) and the horror shows to follow in the Asia cup and World Cup in 2023?

How has the team grown towards positivity under him? And not growing in mediocrity?

That has nothing to do with who captains the team and everything to do with the fact that Pakistan is not good enough to be a consistent team across formats for a long period of time.

It doesn’t matter who is leading the side, nothing is going to change. If you can nominate a miracle worker who can take this Pakistan talent pool to the top, nominate him.

Since you can’t and no one can, it is better to continue with Babar because he is the face of Pakistan cricket in this generation.

 

[Rana]

That has nothing to do with who captains the team and everything to do with the fact that Pakistan is not good enough to be a consistent team across formats for a long period of time.

It doesn’t matter who is leading the side, nothing is going to change. If you can nominate a miracle worker who can take this Pakistan talent pool to the top, nominate him.

Since you can’t and no one can, it is better to continue with Babar because he is the face of Pakistan cricket in this generation.

So why insist on Babar who’s had his fair share of giving mediocre results??

If anyone can do it, why is it only Babar according to you? Because he is the face of Pakistan? He is the Face of failure and mediocrity if that’s the case.

 

[Rana]

Babar should be the unquestionable captain of Pakistan because he is the face of Pakistan.

 

[Shafi]

Humiliation will be when we are knocked out of the t20 World Cup even before the super sixes

I’m honestly ok with Babar being captain. Let him expose himself even more so the Pakistan public can see him for the rubbish player he is

PCB will never learn. Just like last time. They will rest Babar 2-3 series and bring him back as captain and it will continue

 

[Shafi]

So why insist on Babar who’s had his fair share of giving mediocre results??

If anyone can do it, why is it only Babar according to you? Because he is the face of Pakistan? He is the Face of failure and mediocrity if that’s the case.

He is exposing himself saying Babar will be failed so will others without any chance.

 

[mominsaigol]

Saud got exposed in the World Cup, he is mediocre. Agha Salman should have been played in his spot and the output would have been slightly better.

Brother, agha got replaced by saud cause he was terrible while saud in the warmup games outclassed agha by miles.

 

[mominsaigol]

That has nothing to do with who captains the team and everything to do with the fact that Pakistan is not good enough to be a consistent team across formats for a long period of time.

It doesn’t matter who is leading the side, nothing is going to change. If you can nominate a miracle worker who can take this Pakistan talent pool to the top, nominate him.

Since you can’t and no one can, it is better to continue with Babar because he is the face of Pakistan cricket in this generation.

If Pakistan isn't consistent and is medicore and Babar who according you is the face of Pakistan would be inconsistent and mediocre by default.

 

[Rana]

According to @Mamoon we as Pakistan fans should accept no progression

Let’s accept that we waste our time, money, emotions for this team and sport for ABSOLUTELY NO PROGRESSION! And Babar should be allowed to fill his coffers at our expense, but there will be NO PROGRESSION!

 

[Rana]

If Pakistan isn't consistent and is medicore and Babar who according you is the face of Pakistan would be inconsistent and mediocre by default.

Exactly

He is basically arguing Babar is the face of that mediocrity

Just like Shakib is the face of failure as a nation

Is this a level befitting Pakistan cricket???

 

[Shafi]

@FearlessRoar @BouncerGuy @MenInG you guys can get this verified from the source you know who I usually refer to.

Because Babar wants to be captain for all 3 formats. This Naqvi guy is similar to Zaka. At least Sethi would not take any nonsense.

 

[mominsaigol]

Exactly

He is basically arguing Babar is the face of that mediocrity

Just like Shakib is the face of failure as a nation

Is this a level befitting Pakistan cricket???

In the past Mamoon stated that Pakistan is the least talented country to play cricket hence it would make sense why he wants Bobby as captain to continue mediocrity.

But it's contradictory to call Babar "WORLD CLASS" by this logic.

Their 3 to 4 players in all top teams that see superior to babar. Although tbf, Babar is superior to most minnow teams as a bat like Bangaldesh and current Sri lanka.

 

[Rana]

In the past Mamoon stated that Pakistan is the least talented country to play cricket hence it would make sense why he wants Bobby as captain to continue mediocrity.

But it's contradictory to call Babar "WORLD CLASS" by this logic.

Their 3 to 4 players in all top teams that see superior to babar. Although tbf, Babar is superior to most minnow teams as a bat like Bangaldesh and current Sri lanka.

Minnow teams might not have technically better batters than Babar but boy they definitely have batsmen who know how to bat for the team and situation

Babar is not in those ranks.

 

[mominsaigol]

Minnow teams might not have technically better batters than Babar but boy they definitely have batsmen who know how to bat for the team and situation

Babar is not in those ranks.

Completly agree, Look at the way afghani batters were pummelling us left and right.

Granted pur bowlers were inferior but babar couldn't even do so against Nepal. He had to make a quick fire 50 AFTER he had scored a 100 at an average pace.

 

[Rana]

How is it that Pakistan teams of the past, under Imran, Akram, Waqar, Afridi, Misbah and even Sarfaraz to some extent never really had a reliable statpadding batsman in their ranks like Babar but still managed to put together a team that could at least compete in ICC tournaments and not depend solely on fluke?

What’s not adding up in the case of Babar?

 

[mominsaigol]

How is it that Pakistan teams of the past, under Imran, Akram, Waqar, Afridi, Misbah and even Sarfaraz to some extent never really had a reliable statpadding batsman in their ranks like Babar but still managed to put together a team that could at least compete in ICC tournaments and not depend solely on fluke?

What’s not adding up in the case of Babar?

Somewhat disagree.

IK 1992 wc was a lucky break, God intervened via rain lol.

2017 ct had luck in sa game, don't think we'd have chased it down and Sri Lanka missed so many run outs and dropped 2 catches including a sitter.

Afridi mostly got unlucky tbf.

The difference is, when God given luck was given to then similar to 2023 Australia they casually stopped their competition when making use of the opportunity.

But babar couldn't even do so in 2022 wc. 2022 wc was the easiest trophy to logically win. You didn't have to face top teams to reach SF.

All you had to do was come top 2 in a group composed of India, Pakistan, Nedtherlands, Zimbabwe and South Africa.

Deapite that we still needed kudrat ki nazam on winning toss against sa and Nedtherlands beating sa due to sa being a bad chasing team.

And we still botched it lol. How many opportunities do you want bhai?

This cup due to super 8 stage this year means we'll be eliminated as Australia will get rid of us casually.

 

[Mamoon]

I made myself very clear - Pakistan is an average team and whoever captains Pakistan is unlikely to string together consistently strong performances vs the top sides.

Therefore, it makes no sense to replace Babar as captain. He is the biggest star in Pakistan by a mile and an icon player.

 

[Mamoon]

How is it that Pakistan teams of the past, under Imran, Akram, Waqar, Afridi, Misbah and even Sarfaraz to some extent never really had a reliable statpadding batsman in their ranks like Babar but still managed to put together a team that could at least compete in ICC tournaments and not depend solely on fluke?

What’s not adding up in the case of Babar?

Pakistan have competed better in ICC tournaments under Babar than any other Pakistani captain of the last 20 years.

 

[mominsaigol]

I made myself very clear - Pakistan is an average team and whoever captains Pakistan is unlikely to string together consistently strong performances vs the top sides.

Therefore, it makes no sense to replace Babar as captain. He is the biggest star in Pakistan by a mile and an icon player.

Brother claiming being WORLD CLASS for Pakistan standards and claiming HE'S WORLD CLASS in general are very seprate things.

He is an average batsmen who statically in a prior era would be a footnote. He's lucky to be playing in an era where franchise has made it easy to stat pad.

If kohli played as many tours as Bobby did against c string he'd have doubled sackings record considering the fact that he scored 5 centuries in a cup alone against top quality sides.

Same goes for Warner and rachin and other players. Sachin's record would become a joke if they played so many tours against c string rather the leagues.

You're disrespecting actual world class players by putting Babar on the same league ams claiming that Indian batsmen are world class but babar would fit into the clique.

With ishan kishan, Gill being able to score 200's, jaiswal in the ranks, kohli and rohit still around, sheryas still playing at no 4, their wouldn't be any space for Bobby in even their 2nd string side.

Don't throw the word WORLD CLASS so randomly. India doesn't even think Kishan is world class and kishan has played knocks not a single one of our batsmen could ever play including fakhar who on his day can hit big.

 

[moghul]

Shaheen does not possess IQ of a captain and Babar lacks metal strength to be a captain. Both were bad choices and both proved themselves to be. Someone else like Rizwan should have given the captaincy . But if I have to chose between Adridi and Babar, Babar definitely is a better ( and only ) option.

 

[mominsaigol]

Pakistan have competed better in ICC tournaments under Babar than any other Pakistani captain of the last 20 years.

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