I am glad we are finally discussing something like mature people.
khan-92 said:
Tasawuf is another name that people later on use for tazkiyaa just like tafseer, hadeeth and fiqh terms were used later on but were not in use at the time of Prophet Muhammad (Salullaho Alayhi Wassalam)
If tasawwuf was just another name of tazkiya-e-nafs, well then I would have had no problem with it. But you know it as well as I do that tasawwuf is not just another name for tazkiya.
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khan-92 said:
Now to your question on baiyaa in Islam they are different kind of baiyaa and they are.
1) Baiya for Islam
2) Baiya for Jihad
3) Baiya for Khalifah(leader)
4) Baiya Tauba(repentence)
5) Baiya for performing good deeds
There are only two baiyats in Islam. Baiyat for Islam and baiyat for obedience. Only Allah and His Rasool are qualified to accept the baiyat for Islam, and only Allah, His Rasool, and the leader (hukamraan or khalifa as you said) are qualified to accept the baiyat of obediance.
There is no such thing as a baiyat of tauba or a baiyat for performing good deeds in Islam. There two are only there in tasawwuf. And tasawwuf is not Islam.
In Islam, we are already bound in an agreement with Allah (we gave Allah our word before we were even born that He was our God, then when we submit we again renew this pledge, and then we renew this pledge and the pledge of following his orders at least seventeen times every day when we say, "Iyyaaka na'budu wa iyyaaka nasta'een).
Performing good deeds and repenting (tauba) when we make a mistake are covered by these pledges, and pledging these things to a peer makes no sense at all.
khan-92 said:
The baiyaa that Shaykhs take are the last 2 and this baiyaa is proven from Quran and hadeeth the verse in the Quran is
O Prophet! When believing women come to you giving you a pledge(baiya) that they will not associate anyone with Allah, and that they will not steal, and will not commit fornication, and will not kill their children, and will not produce any lie that they have devised between their hands and feet, and will not disobey you in what is good; then accept their pledge and ask forgiveness for them from Allah; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (60:12)
This is the baiyat for Islam, and the Rasool Allah is qualified to accept it. Whenever he likes, and from whom he likes. This is the sole prerogative of Allah and his Rasool. It's no peer's business to claim he has that right.
khan-92 said:
So when someone wants to reform he repents from he's past sins and asks the shaykh to guide him to become good and pious muslim.
Like I said, who is this Sheikh to accept the baiyat of repentance? Repentence is between a man and Allah. A peer or sheikh has no business in it.
In other words, why should the mureed give his baiyat of repentence or doing good works to the peer? Why shouldn't the peer give his baiyat to the mureed? They both need to repent and they both need to do good, don't they?
khan-92 said:
And from the hadeeth the example of this kind of baiya is
Bukhari and Muslim narrate that ‘Ubada ibn as-Samit said, "The Prophet (Salullaho Alayhi Wassalam) said, 'Give me your pledge and oath not to associate anything with Allah, not to steal, not to commit adultery, not to kill your children, not to backbite, not to fall into sin; and who keeps his promise, then his reward is from Allah, Almighty and Exalted.' And then we gave our pledge to the Prophet (Salullaho Alayhi Wassalam)
and our oath."
Note these examples from the Quran and hadeeth are people who were muslims and not non muslims.
Your claim and your evidence are not compatible. Your claim is, a peer can accept baiyat. And all your evidence shows is that the Rasool Allah accepted baiyats (which nobody is denying in the first place). The Rasool Allah is qualified, no other person is, if it is the baiyat of Islam. And if it is a baiyat of obediance, then only the Rasool Allah and the Muslims' hukamraan is qualified to accept it.
As for the people being Muslims when the Rasool Allah accepted their baiyat, well what difference does that make? The baiyat for Islam is not necessarily the baiyat at the time of accepting Islam, it is a baiyat of clinging to one's deen, doing good etc. The Rasool Allah is the only person who was qualified to accept that baiyat.
khan-92 said:
To your question how the Prophet (Salullaho Alayhi Wassalam) purified the Sahabah(ra) They were purified by sitting in he's company and following he's commands to do good deeds and keeping away from sin.
Likewise the student(mureed) becomes purified when he listens to he's shaykh and does good deeds and keeps away from sin.
The Rasool Allah purified the people around him by reading to them the aayaat of Allah (Qur'an). It was not by some mysterious magical messages that he achieved that goal.
If a teacher does just that (reading the ayaat of Qur'aan) which results in the purification of some of his students (with Allah's permission) well then there is nothing objectionable in it at all. I am all for that relationship.
But when it's a peer-mureed relationship based on this baiyat (which has no basis in Islam whatsoever) then I have a problem. That's because the peer is overstepping his authority, and the mureed is behaving in a very foolish manner by placing the peer on that padestal where he doesn't belong.
Tasawwuf thus is this man made system with all these flaws, whereas Islam is Allah's deen that was perfectly transmitted to us by his Rasool. These two are distinct things and must be kept separate from one another.
