People will consider Modi as avatar of Ram, Krishna: Uttarakhand CM Tirath Rawat

[MP2011]

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/n...ishna-in-times-to-come-cm-tirath-rawat-225971

Uttarakhand Chief Minister Tirath Singh Rawat on Monday said Prime Minister Narendra Modi will be considered as an avatar of Lord Ram and Krishna in times to come.

While speaking at 'Netra Kumbha', organised by Hans Foundation, CM Rawat said, "The way people started considering Lord Ram and Krishna as gods in Dwapar and Treta Yuga because of their works, in the same way, Prime Minister Narendra Modi will be considered as Lord Ram and Krishna in times to come."

"Earlier the PM of India would not get any special attention in the world, but today even the biggest leaders of the world are eager to be photographed with PM Modi," Rawat added.

 

[MP2011]

Even by gutter level standards of sanghis, this deserves a special mention. How low would they stoop to deify their god?

 

[IndoorCricket]

Even by gutter level standards of sanghis, this deserves a special mention. How low would they stoop to deify their god?

Anyone can be a god in Hinduism. Sachin, Lata mangeshkar are examples of it. Any one who excels in what they do is considered God. And also avatar and gods are no where related. There is no concept of God in Hinduism in Abrahamic sense. But still people attribute the concept of God to bhagwan or avatar.

 

[Slog]

Anyone can be a god in Hinduism. Sachin, Lata mangeshkar are examples of it. Any one who excels in what they do is considered God. And also avatar and gods are no where related. There is no concept of God in Hinduism in Abrahamic sense. But still people attribute the concept of God to bhagwan or avatar.

Lol you say that about Sachin as if it’s a very normal thing

 

[IndoorCricket]

Lol you say that about Sachin as if it’s a very normal thing

As I said you cant look the concept of God from Abrahamic lens. Here people consider gods are someone who excels in some field. People look up to such persons to enhance their competencies. We have 33 million gods for no reason. People create their own gods here to enhance their life.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Figurative speech, but strongly disagree. Modi has been a let down. Only Yogi deserves such high praise.

 

[pillionrider]

Figurative speech, but strongly disagree. Modi has been a let down. Only Yogi deserves such high praise.

You mean the Yogi under whose watch the guy who thrashed a Muslim boy was arrested? I understand he got bail, but why was he arrested.

 

[CricketCartoons]

You mean the Yogi under whose watch the guy who thrashed a Muslim boy was arrested? I understand he got bail, but why was he arrested.

Go and study tazirat-e-hind and see which sections apply to him, and if they are non bailable or bailable offence.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Bjp will do well to quell such opinions and statements. Or they risk going the congress way.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/n...ishna-in-times-to-come-cm-tirath-rawat-225971

Uttarakhand Chief Minister Tirath Singh Rawat on Monday said Prime Minister Narendra Modi will be considered as an avatar of Lord Ram and Krishna in times to come.

While speaking at 'Netra Kumbha', organised by Hans Foundation, CM Rawat said, "The way people started considering Lord Ram and Krishna as gods in Dwapar and Treta Yuga because of their works, in the same way, Prime Minister Narendra Modi will be considered as Lord Ram and Krishna in times to come."

"Earlier the PM of India would not get any special attention in the world, but today even the biggest leaders of the world are eager to be photographed with PM Modi," Rawat added.

Being called a God in a figurative speech (in the non-Islamic semantics) is one thing (like a cow or an elephant or a monkey can be god in hindu mythology) but comparing someone with Ram and Krishna?

I mean, Modi being a human at his age, may release atomic gas quite a few times a day (specially being a vegetarian who consumes lentils, beans, potatoes, cauliflower etc) besides having the need to excrete and urinate on daily basis, how can a Hindu compare a human with their Lord?

This is next level rear end kissing by this Rawat guy.

 

[pillionrider]

Bjp will do well to quell such opinions and statements. Or they risk going the congress way.

You seriously saying this is the first time you're hearing this?

A pro-BJP Kannada news channel had a BJP guy on some time back saying Modi was an avatar crushing the Chinese asuras. They had appropriate b-grade animations to go along with it

 

[CricketCartoons]

You seriously saying this is the first time you're hearing this?

A pro-BJP Kannada news channel had a BJP guy on some time back saying Modi was an avatar crushing the Chinese asuras. They had appropriate b-grade animations to go along with it

We are a land of poets like kalidasa. It is just a hyperbole, a literary term used by likes of PG Wodehouse, to make a point. But can't blame these reporters, who are the lowest of the lowest when it comes to education and intelligence to make a headline out of this, as they have readers with no knowledge of literature and figures of speech.

 

[pillionrider]

Go and study tazirat-e-hind and see which sections apply to him, and if they are non bailable or bailable offence.

Why was he arrested in the first place?

 

[MP2011]

Anyone can be a god in Hinduism. Sachin, Lata mangeshkar are examples of it. Any one who excels in what they do is considered God. And also avatar and gods are no where related. There is no concept of God in Hinduism in Abrahamic sense. But still people attribute the concept of God to bhagwan or avatar.

Read this if you've comprehension issues.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi will be considered as Lord Ram and Krishna in times to come."

lol, how much more clarity do you need to see a clear case of deifying someone? And no, no one ever called Tendulkar, Lata to be avatars of Lord Rama and Lord Krishna. And don't forget this Tirath guy is CM of a state so all the more need for him to be far more responsible than he is in his bid to appease his 'god'.

I know he wants to be in good books of his supreme leader but he has already got the kursi of Uttrakhand!

 

[MP2011]

And more importantly Uttrakhand is a land of religious people. Will they take this lightly and let their CM go scot free or they too accept this?

 

[CricketCartoons]

Why was he arrested in the first place?

Since you don't know, why dont you do research, instead of relying on me, on what is the procedure when a case is reported.

 

[MP2011]

Being called a God in a figurative speech (in the non-Islamic semantics) is one thing (like a cow or an elephant or a monkey can be god in hindu mythology) but comparing someone with Ram and Krishna?

I mean, Modi being a human at his age, may release atomic gas quite a few times a day (specially being a vegetarian who consumes lentils, beans, potatoes, cauliflower etc) besides having the need to excrete and urinate on daily basis, how can a Hindu compare a human with their Lord?

This is next level rear end kissing by this Rawat guy.

True. There have been several bootlickers in Indian politics, quite a few in Congress' times as well but this is next level stuff.

 

[CricketCartoons]

And more importantly Uttrakhand is a land of religious people. Will they take this lightly and let their CM go scot free or they too accept this?

Religious people are most tolerant and wise, they will not react like the sickulars and the wokes.

 

[pillionrider]

Since you don't know, why dont you do research, instead of relying on me, on what is the procedure when a case is reported.

Well the ashram and temple are claimed to have a lot of history to them. Why wasn't Yogi aware of all that was happening before this incident. Why did he allow the man to be arrested in the first place? He should have investigated the boy first. Now he's just another let-down.

 

[ftbno1]

Amazing combination of sychopancy and boneheadedness. First of all Shri Ram and Shri Krishna were themselves avatar of Bhagwan Vishnu.
Futher how can you compare PM wit a man who gave away his throne on word of his father.
Modiji is more like little finger. Would see the realm burn if he can be king of ashes.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Figurative speech, but strongly disagree. Modi has been a let down. Only Yogi deserves such high praise.

So Yogi is like Ram and Krishna for you in a figurative speech?
Good for you if that’s what you believe.

In my opinion, he looks too ugly to a god when you compare him with the pictures and photos of Ram and Krishna.
You know, that “manhoos shakkal pe laanut” barasti huvi type ugly. How do you see Ram in him?

 

[MP2011]

Amazing combination of sychopancy and boneheadedness. First of all Shri Ram and Shri Krishna were themselves avatar of Bhagwan Vishnu.
Futher how can you compare PM wit a man who gave away his throne on word of his father.
Modiji is more like little finger. Would see the realm burn if he can be king of ashes.

This guy won't give up his throne/power for ANYTHING in this world!

 

[CricketCartoons]

Well the ashram and temple are claimed to have a lot of history to them. Why wasn't Yogi aware of all that was happening before this incident. Why did he allow the man to be arrested in the first place? He should have investigated the boy first. Now he's just another let-down.

so don't vote for him, if you were eligible and withdraw your support for him.

 

[CricketCartoons]

So Yogi is like Ram and Krishna for you in a figurative speech?
Good for you if that’s what you believe.

In my opinion, he looks too ugly to a god when you compare him with the pictures and photos of Ram and Krishna.
You know, that “manhoos shakkal pe laanut” barasti huvi type ugly. How do you see Ram in him?

Not interested in discussing my faith with someone who doesn't believe in the divinity of Lord Shri Ram.

 

[pillionrider]

so don't vote for him, if you were eligible and withdraw your support for him.

Ok I understand. This is your roundabout way of saying that I helped you realize that Yogi too has been a letdown and that you will not be voting for him using the voter id issued to you as a UP police officer

 

[MP2011]

Ok I understand. This is your roundabout way of saying that I helped you realize that Yogi too has been a letdown and that you will not be voting for him using the voter id issued to you as a UP police officer

Bisht was never an option to begin with. He is even more of a bigot than the Gujarati duo.

 

[Varun]

He is the new CM of Uttarakhand.

This is his way of showcasing his loyalty to the party high command for getting the post.

 

[Varun]

Bisht was never an option to begin with. He is even more of a bigot than the Gujarati duo.

If he wins UP 2022 with a reasonable majority and the Congress are still twisting in the wind with RaGa, I have my fears he's next in line.

 

[Itachi]

Being called a God in a figurative speech (in the non-Islamic semantics) is one thing (like a cow or an elephant or a monkey can be god in hindu mythology) but comparing someone with Ram and Krishna?

I mean, Modi being a human at his age, may release atomic gas quite a few times a day (specially being a vegetarian who consumes lentils, beans, potatoes, cauliflower etc) besides having the need to excrete and urinate on daily basis, how can a Hindu compare a human with their Lord?

This is next level rear end kissing by this Rawat guy.

Ram and Krishna both weren't perfect. You are following the concept of abrahamic religion but that doesn't apply in case of Hinduism.

 

[MP2011]

If he wins UP 2022 with a reasonable majority and the Congress are still twisting in the wind with RaGa, I have my fears he's next in line.

Yeah, he'll bypass motabhai for sure.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Yeah, he'll bypass motabhai for sure.

mota bhai is not a mass leader. He is good at what he does and needs to continue that. Yogi ji is the ideal person for cleaning the augean stables.

 

[MP2011]

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/con...-singh-rawat-with-ripped-jeans-remark-2392606

Controversy For New Uttarakhand Chief Minister With "Ripped Jeans" Remark

Uttarakhand Chief Minister Tirath Singh Rawat has debuted in his new role with controversial comments on women wearing ripped jeans and how they cannot - he feels -- provide the right environment at home for children.

Mr Rawat made the comments on Tuesday at a workshop organised by the Uttarakhand State Commission for Protection of Child Rights in Dehradun.

He said he was shocked to see a woman running an NGO in ripped jeans, and was concerned about the example she was setting for society.

"If this kind of woman goes out in the society to meet people and solve their problems, what kind of message are we giving out to society, to our kids? It all starts at home. What we do, our kids follow. A child who is taught the right culture at home, no matter how modern he becomes, will never fail in life," said the Chief Minister.

He expressed his distaste for "bare knees" being exposed by children and bemoaned the fact that while the west followed India's yoga and covering their body, "we run towards nudity."

"Kaynchi se sanskaar (culture by scissors) - showing bare knees, wearing ripped denim and looking like rich kids - these are the values being given now. Where is this coming from, if not at home? What is the fault of teachers or schools? Where am I taking my son, showing his knees and in tattered jeans? Girls are no less, showing their knees. Is this good," he said.

One of his new ministers, Ganesh Joshi, doubled down on the tone-deaf comments by adding that women should prioritise raising good children: "Women talk about all things they want to do in life, but the most important thing for them is to look after their family and children," he said.

 

[MP2011]

More bigotry from the newly promoted bigot. And sanghis are so full of these pests!

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

As always BJP and their bhakhts making a mockery of hindu religion. Not sure when are people going to realise that.

 

[CricketCartoons]

As always BJP and their bhakhts making a mockery of hindu religion. Not sure when are people going to realise that.

As usual, it is those who don't practice sanatan dharma suddenly become pious to tell us faithful what should be done. Like the threads created by pakistani atheists who tell muslims that they should be outraged when muslims are just chill.

 

[MP2011]

As always BJP and their bhakhts making a mockery of hindu religion. Not sure when are people going to realise that.

These sanghis and their bhakts are biggest enemies of Hinduism!

 

[guna]

I am surprised so many Hindus on this board do not know their own religion. Common people can be elevated to God status in India if they show exemplary behavior or dedication towards ones profession or pursuit. This is not a new concept and many of the posters throwing their arms up in the air when someone is elevated to a God or demi-god status know the reality and truth. They just selectively show their contempt when such things happen.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Not interested in discussing my faith with someone who doesn't believe in the divinity of Lord Shri Ram.

It’s not the faith - it’s the looks.

If we look at the paintings and pictures of Hindu mythology, we notice that humanoid form of heroes are usually depicted as fair skinned and good looking folks with big shiny eyes,
But if you look at Yogi’s face, you feel like puking.

If you said you see a devil in him, I would prolly agree. But finding Ram in him?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I am surprised so many Hindus on this board do not know their own religion. Common people can be elevated to God status in India if they show exemplary behavior or dedication towards ones profession or pursuit. This is not a new concept and many of the posters throwing their arms up in the air when someone is elevated to a God or demi-god status know the reality and truth. They just selectively show their contempt when such things happen.

Indeed. Thus god status will this time be bestowed upon a chai wallah, and may he keep brewing a heady cup of chai for all Indians worldwide.

 

[Tubs]

Reminds me of those crazy evangelicals who say Trump was am emissary of god.

 

[guna]

Indeed. Thus god status will this time be bestowed upon a chai wallah, and may he keep brewing a heady cup of chai for all Indians worldwide.

People will decide if a person can be elevated to God status.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

People will decide if a person can be elevated to God status.

People MAY decide if chai wallah will be elevated to God status.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Ram and Krishna both weren't perfect. You are following the concept of abrahamic religion but that doesn't apply in case of Hinduism.

Interesting.
What did they do that makes them, "not so perfect gods"?

 

[guna]

People MAY decide if chai wallah will be elevated to God status.

If enough people decide that Modi is an Avatar of God, then Modism can become a cult or get added to the pantheon of Hindu deities.

 

[guna]

Interesting.
What did they do that makes them, "not so perfect gods"?

None of the Hindu Gods are perfect. All of them had stories where they were unjust (though for greater good). They are prone to become angry, jealous etc. There are no perfect Gods in Hinduism.

Even in Abrahamic faiths, God is prone to Anger as he sent diseases and famines to punish people. He gets jealous when people worship a different God too. Its just that Abrahamic faiths do not accept that their Gods are not perfect.

 

[Justcrazy]

The concept of Avtar is different from God in Hinduism.

The point is that whether Modi is God or not , we need to ask , how you define God , what are characteristics of God.

For example, In Islam, God is not begotten, neither HE begets. Thus in Islam, anyone who is born is creation, NOT the Creator. Thus according to Islam King Ram had parents , was born in Ayodhya , thus he is a creation. Same with other personalities.

 

[CricketCartoons]

The concept of Avtar is different from God in Hinduism.

The point is that whether Modi is God or not , we need to ask , how you define God , what are characteristics of God.

For example, In Islam, God is not begotten, neither HE begets. Thus in Islam, anyone who is born is creation, NOT the Creator. Thus according to Islam King Ram had parents , was born in Ayodhya , thus he is a creation. Same with other personalities.

I see you use masculine pronoun for God. Does God have gender? If not, then SHE or IT would also be ok.

 

[guna]

The concept of Avtar is different from God in Hinduism.

The point is that whether Modi is God or not , we need to ask , how you define God , what are characteristics of God.

For example, In Islam, God is not begotten, neither HE begets. Thus in Islam, anyone who is born is creation, NOT the Creator. Thus according to Islam King Ram had parents , was born in Ayodhya , thus he is a creation. Same with other personalities.

God has to be created too. How can God exist without any origin? Where did he come from according to you?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

God has to be created too. How can God exist without any origin? Where did he come from according to you?

If you want an answer to this you would have to reframe the question without using any words.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

None of the Hindu Gods are perfect. All of them had stories where they were unjust (though for greater good). They are prone to become angry, jealous etc. There are no perfect Gods in Hinduism.

Even in Abrahamic faiths, God is prone to Anger as he sent diseases and famines to punish people. He gets jealous when people worship a different God too. Its just that Abrahamic faiths do not accept that their Gods are not perfect.

Was Jesus Christ perfect?
If not, what did he do that made him imperfect?

 

[guna]

Was Jesus Christ perfect?
If not, what did he do that made him imperfect?

Jesus is sinless. So he is perfect. He is God the Son.

But God the Father and God the Spirit of Trinity to me have some issues with anger and jealousy. You can see that in Old Testament stories.

 

[Itachi]

Interesting.
What did they do that makes them, "not so perfect gods"?

Yup. I understand it is hard for abrahamic followers to understand but in Hinduism, being God doesn't mean you could be free from imperfections.

 

[Justcrazy]

I see you use masculine pronoun for God. Does God have gender? If not, then SHE or IT would also be ok.

God does not have a gender. But in Arabic grammar everything whether animate or inanimate things are addressed with gender, for grammatical purposes. Like in English we use "it" for inanimate things , in Arabic there is not It.

Thus in Arabic God is addressed as Masculine grammatically.

 

[Justcrazy]

God has to be created too. How can God exist without any origin? Where did he come from according to you?

God is uncreated, if someone is created, it is the creation and is not worthy of any worship.

 

[Justcrazy]

Jesus is sinless. So he is perfect. He is God the Son.

But God the Father and God the Spirit of Trinity to me have some issues with anger and jealousy. You can see that in Old Testament stories.

Sin is not the only criteria to be perfect. Perfection is a very broad term.

Now there lies the problem with the concept of Trinity , which says all three are same. But right now you said two have issues with anger and jealousy, the third one does not. That means they think separately from each other because they are three different entities.

 

[guna]

God is uncreated, if someone is created, it is the creation and is not worthy of any worship.

Everything has a beginning. A complex being like God cannot just pop out of no where and exist for eternity? The higher power that created a magnificent being like God has to be present.

 

[guna]

Sin is not the only criteria to be perfect. Perfection is a very broad term.

Now there lies the problem with the concept of Trinity , which says all three are same. But right now you said two have issues with anger and jealousy, the third one does not. That means they think separately from each other because they are three different entities.

You are wrong here.

Just as a human has body, mind and soul, God in Christianity also has body (Jesus), mind (Father) and Soul (Holy Spirit). The 3 are inseparable. Yet they are different.

Adam was made in the image of God. Hence every human also has a body, mind and soul. All of the 3 combine to form 1 human being. This is Trinity in short.

 

[Justcrazy]

Everything has a beginning. A complex being like God cannot just pop out of no where and exist for eternity? The higher power that created a magnificent being like God has to be present.

The problem with your argument is that if you keep going back, then there is NO end and scientifically it is NOT possible.

I gave you the definition of God, he is the creator, rest are all creations.

Now if you say there was a greater God , then there must be something before that as well. So , theoretically you are suggesting that the chain never ends.

 

[Justcrazy]

You are wrong here.

Just as a human has body, mind and soul, God in Christianity also has body (Jesus), mind (Father) and Soul (Holy Spirit). The 3 are inseparable. Yet they are different.

Adam was made in the image of God. Hence every human also has a body, mind and soul. All of the 3 combine to form 1 human being. This is Trinity in short.

Humans are controlled by mind, all three mind , soul and body act together.

Now coming to the trinity, do all three work together? Or they contradict and kindly refer from Bible because that is the authority for Christians.

 

[guna]

The problem with your argument is that if you keep going back, then there is NO end and scientifically it is NOT possible.

I gave you the definition of God, he is the creator, rest are all creations.

Now if you say there was a greater God , then there must be something before that as well. So , theoretically you are suggesting that the chain never ends.

Yes. The chain never ends. You can worship any one of the creators in the chain. Hence 1 God and 1 creator theory fails according to me.

 

[guna]

Humans are controlled by mind, all three mind , soul and body act together.

Now coming to the trinity, do all three work together? Or they contradict and kindly refer from Bible because that is the authority for Christians.

They all should work together if the God has to appear sane. They cannot contradict each other. Same for humans too. All of the body, mind and soul has to be in sync for a human to live normally.

 

[Local.Dada]

The problem with your argument is that if you keep going back, then there is NO end and scientifically it is NOT possible.

I gave you the definition of God, he is the creator, rest are all creations.

Now if you say there was a greater God , then there must be something before that as well. So , theoretically you are suggesting that the chain never ends.

The Hindu definition of god is, god is omnipresent, not exactly 1 entity or an individual person/thing.

People use god for nature,domesticated animals, great human beings.

For example: “guest is god” “parents are god” “teachers are god” “children are a representation of god” etc

I am oversimplifying it

but basically in most religions they are trying to reach god and belief is in an entity called god.

in Hinduism the premise is already there that god exists everywhere as I said omnipresent, so the human being has to figure out a way to reach god with his Karma (acts) and Dharma (duties and responsibilities)

That is why when we say Sachin is a cricket god we don’t think it is blasphemy like it might be in Pakistan, it’s just saying a poetic hyperbole that someone is so good at batting that see god exists through his skill. That’s the premise. It gets lost in cultural translation.

Surprisingly Sufis more or less had similar concepts and worked well with Hindu saints back in the day, I think the more radical form of Islam has kind of overtaken all these 2-way religious discussions. That makes sense to because modern Islam has been used as a political tool and such us vs then attitude helps in generating all the “religious” warriors we see even in countries like UK and Canada

 

[Slog]

Are even bad guys like Rams enemy Raavan considered gods?

 

[CricketCartoons]

Usual opportunity for non hindus and non practicing hindus to mock the practicing hindus and their religion. Nothing else to see here.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Many Hindus worship Modiji anyway. If it is within their teachings to make him an official God then so be it. Who are we to judge?

 

[Itachi]

Are even bad guys like Rams enemy Raavan considered gods?

Every character in Hindu mythology has their own story, struggle. For example, Karna fought for antagonist but he is hailed as hero for who he was. He knew that in the war, his party will lose and he will die, but even then, he didn't change his side in spite of request from Krishna (karna was the elder brother of the 5 pandavas who was the victorious party) as his commitment and responsibilities meant more than anything.


Ravana was one of the greatest king of those time. It was his ego and pride which was the reason for his downfall. When Ravana was defeated and was at the verge of death, Ram asked his brother to learn how to run the empire, diplomacy from Ravana because he was one of the best in that craft.

Its a bit realistic in the sense that, sometimes we are bound to do something which we may not agree with but when duty calls, you'll have to do it. We don't always have the choices in hand.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

It’s not the faith - it’s the looks.

If we look at the paintings and pictures of Hindu mythology, we notice that humanoid form of heroes are usually depicted as fair skinned and good looking folks with big shiny eyes,
But if you look at Yogi’s face, you feel like puking.

If you said you see a devil in him, I would prolly agree. But finding Ram in him?

Ram and Krishna are always depicted in blue..
They are depicted as Shweta rang, which means darker in color as compared to others.
Don't twist facts and talk about something you do not know.

 

[MenInG]

Debate by all means but do not demean or pass derogatory comments about anyone's beliefs etc.

 

[Justcrazy]

Are even bad guys like Rams enemy Raavan considered gods?

I think in some parts of Lanka they worship Ravana ( I may be wrong ) , but generally Ravana is considered as a big warrior and a scholar

 

[Justcrazy]

Yes. The chain never ends. You can worship any one of the creators in the chain. Hence 1 God and 1 creator theory fails according to me.

So , you are saying that there are infinite Gods ?

 

[Justcrazy]

They all should work together if the God has to appear sane. They cannot contradict each other. Same for humans too. All of the body, mind and soul has to be in sync for a human to live normally.

That is my question, does the Trinity work in sync or they do not ?

 

[Justcrazy]

The Hindu definition of god is, god is omnipresent, not exactly 1 entity or an individual person/thing.

People use god for nature,domesticated animals, great human beings.

For example: “guest is god” “parents are god” “teachers are god” “children are a representation of god” etc

I am oversimplifying it

but basically in most religions they are trying to reach god and belief is in an entity called god.

in Hinduism the premise is already there that god exists everywhere as I said omnipresent, so the human being has to figure out a way to reach god with his Karma (acts) and Dharma (duties and responsibilities)

That is why when we say Sachin is a cricket god we don’t think it is blasphemy like it might be in Pakistan, it’s just saying a poetic hyperbole that someone is so good at batting that see god exists through his skill. That’s the premise. It gets lost in cultural translation.

Surprisingly Sufis more or less had similar concepts and worked well with Hindu saints back in the day, I think the more radical form of Islam has kind of overtaken all these 2-way religious discussions. That makes sense to because modern Islam has been used as a political tool and such us vs then attitude helps in generating all the “religious” warriors we see even in countries like UK and Canada

I get your above point , when you say Sachin is cricket God , it is not the word God in a divine sense.

My issue is with two things you mentioned. You said Hindus do not worship one God. I think Sanatan Dharma who follow vedas do believe in One entity.

Second is what is Sufism ? Is it part of Islam? If it is please provide textual evidence because I have not come across a single ayat of quran or authentic hadeeth which speaks about sufism.

 

[Justcrazy]

Many Hindus worship Modiji anyway. If it is within their teachings to make him an official God then so be it. Who are we to judge?

Which teachings are you talking about ?

 

[guna]

So , you are saying that there are infinite Gods ?

Yes!

 

[guna]

That is my question, does the Trinity work in sync or they do not ?

They all must work in Sync. They are not separate from each other. They are part of the Trinitarian God.

 

[kabbirann]

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/con...-singh-rawat-with-ripped-jeans-remark-2392606

Controversy For New Uttarakhand Chief Minister With "Ripped Jeans" Remark

Uttarakhand Chief Minister Tirath Singh Rawat has debuted in his new role with controversial comments on women wearing ripped jeans and how they cannot - he feels -- provide the right environment at home for children.

Mr Rawat made the comments on Tuesday at a workshop organised by the Uttarakhand State Commission for Protection of Child Rights in Dehradun.

He said he was shocked to see a woman running an NGO in ripped jeans, and was concerned about the example she was setting for society.

"If this kind of woman goes out in the society to meet people and solve their problems, what kind of message are we giving out to society, to our kids? It all starts at home. What we do, our kids follow. A child who is taught the right culture at home, no matter how modern he becomes, will never fail in life," said the Chief Minister.

He expressed his distaste for "bare knees" being exposed by children and bemoaned the fact that while the west followed India's yoga and covering their body, "we run towards nudity."

"Kaynchi se sanskaar (culture by scissors) - showing bare knees, wearing ripped denim and looking like rich kids - these are the values being given now. Where is this coming from, if not at home? What is the fault of teachers or schools? Where am I taking my son, showing his knees and in tattered jeans? Girls are no less, showing their knees. Is this good," he said.

One of his new ministers, Ganesh Joshi, doubled down on the tone-deaf comments by adding that women should prioritise raising good children: "Women talk about all things they want to do in life, but the most important thing for them is to look after their family and children," he said.

Tharki budha- but this what BJP thinking is about - ram- ram japna and parayi woman tarna.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Which teachings are you talking about ?

Hindu teachings.

For us Muslims, tauhid is the pinnacle of our faith. For Hindus they believe they can have multiple gods and anytning can be deified. So its up to them if they want to worship Modi. Nothing we can do about it

 

[Justcrazy]

Yes!

You are advocating for Trinity and then you claim there are infinite Gods?

 

[Justcrazy]

They all must work in Sync. They are not separate from each other. They are part of the Trinitarian God.

Bible does not agree with that .

 

[Justcrazy]

Hindu teachings.

For us Muslims, tauhid is the pinnacle of our faith. For Hindus they believe they can have multiple gods and anytning can be deified. So its up to them if they want to worship Modi. Nothing we can do about it

By teachings I mean Textual teachings , not what Hindus believe in. For example there are Muslims who believe dead people inside the grave can help , but that is not what Islam Texts says.