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He wouldn't have been overworked playing for WI...
Just imagine a 4 man attack of Roach, Gabriel, Holder and Archer.
Right now WI are playing Miguel Cummins instead.
I reckon they would be a Top 3 Test side with Archer and they wouldn't lose any games at home for sure.
They dont have the batsmen to be the top 4 side and no quality spinners as well.
What a softie. You have Wahab Riaz bowling 30 plus overs per innings for Pakistan on the flat graveyard Pitches for Pakistan in the UAE in all 3 test matches and then you see him racing in bowling 30 plus overs per innings for Pakistan on the flat but bouncy wickets of Australia without the support of a 4th bowler and here you have Archer being over bowled where he has only bowled 18 overs in the innings
What a softie. You have Wahab Riaz bowling 30 plus overs per innings for Pakistan on the flat graveyard Pitches for Pakistan in the UAE in all 3 test matches and then you see him racing in bowling 30 plus overs per innings for Pakistan on the flat but bouncy wickets of Australia without the support of a 4th bowler and here you have Archer being over bowled where he has only bowled 18 overs in the innings
Teams need to learn from Australia how to use fast bowlers so they have a long life. You can't get greedy with them even if they're on a roll. 4 over spells maximum.
Depends on the situation and needs of the team. If the bowler is picking up wickets and striking, the captain will naturally keep his strike bowler on in order to go for the kill and to finish the other side off.
England are 4th ranked and they are trash. And even Australia are ranked behind them.
South Africa is also garbage, they don't have any good players and just lost to SL at home. Yet they are ranked 3.
If Archer wanted to win the right way he should've played for West Indies.
To me it just looks as if he went the way of money and fame.
Teams need to learn from Australia how to use fast bowlers so they have a long life. You can't get greedy with them even if they're on a roll. 4 over spells maximum.
Australia gave a 7 over spell to Cummins and Hazelwood almost bowled 13 overs on the trot.
England are 4th ranked and they are trash. And even Australia are ranked behind them.
South Africa is also garbage, they don't have any good players and just lost to SL at home. Yet they are ranked 3.
If Archer wanted to win the right way he should've played for West Indies.
To me it just looks as if he went the way of money and fame.
England are 4th ranked and they are trash. And even Australia are ranked behind them.
South Africa is also garbage, they don't have any good players and just lost to SL at home. Yet they are ranked 3.
If Archer wanted to win the right way he should've played for West Indies.
To me it just looks as if he went the way of money and fame.
Archer is not English and should not play for England. Simple as that. Idc wat anybody says.
And this goes for most expats playing for international teams.
It's not racist. He's from Barbados. Not England.Your comment is racist. He's a British citizen, so is his father. Moved to England at 18 and became eligible to play.
Archer limps off the field unable to finish his over because of what looks like a cramp in his hamstring. He has bowled 61.1 overs in just over a week. Surely he's being overworked?
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It's not racist. He's from Barbados. Not England.
Go back to the Time Pass section and stay in your lane.
. He is British, that's like saying you're from Karachi not America.Archer is not English and should not play for England. Simple as that. Idc wat anybody says.
And this goes for most expats playing for international teams.
It's not racist. He's from Barbados. Not England.
Go back to the Time Pass section and stay in your lane.
Difference is I was born and raised in the US. So I can call myself American.lmaoo I've dropped gems of wisdom in this sub. He is British, that's like saying you're from Karachi not America.
Then that sucks for them if they can't field a good team.That actually is racist. You're saying that cricket loving immigrants should be punished for being an immigrant, and shouldn't be given the same oppurtunities as locals.
I wonder what the English team would look like if that rule was put into place. No Archer, Roy, Curran brothers, Morgan, they wouldn't have had KP, Stokes, and many many more players.
For me, wearing an English shirt is representing the English people. Not the immigrants.I also find this racist or at least xenophobic nationalist. He has a British passport and has gone through the qualifying process.. By extension you are saying that only people born in England should be able to get a job in England.
Difference is I was born and raised in the US. So I can call myself American.
It's like comparing Moeen Ali and Adil Rashid to Eoin Morgan and Jofra Archer. The first two are English, but the second two are not.
Then that sucks for them if they can't field a good team.
For me, wearing an English shirt is representing the English people. Not the immigrants.
Same can't be said for a random job. Where you would be representing a company instead of the country itself.
Difference is I was born and raised in the US. So I can call myself American.
It's like comparing Moeen Ali and Adil Rashid to Eoin Morgan and Jofra Archer. The first two are English, but the second two are not.
Then that sucks for them if they can't field a good team.
For me, wearing an English shirt is representing the English people. Not the immigrants.
Same can't be said for a random job. Where you would be representing a company instead of the country itself.
He can't bowl at 97 mph all the time like he did in the Ashes. That NZ series has really taken its toll on him. You can always be a T20 league star and a world cup winner but test matches are much harder on fast bowlers and he needs to pace himself properly. Not everyone can bowl 140 average in tests like cummins/Starc etc.

Big loss for Rajasthan. Silver lining - Tyagi may get a game now.
Overbowling is just an excuse for his poor bowling. Broad has bowled just 10 less overs, over a shorter time period, since the Ashes started August 1st.
He shouldn't rush himself back for the IPL. He doesn't want to get injured again.
Archer said he is "making good progress" and has not given up hope of playing in the Indian Premier League.
It was originally thought he would not play for Rajasthan Royals in this year's IPL, which runs from 29 March to 24 May, because of a low-grade stress fracture in his right elbow.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/51752523
I guess Archer still has a chance of making IPL. Don't know if that would be the best decision though.
It’s a lucrative option, can you really blame him?
This is extremely unfair for Archer. The fact that he's playing this match after two whole matches in the last series is just ridiculous. Isnt that so [MENTION=147292]RedwoodOriginal[/MENTION]? Thats the reason he’s been averaging 50 after the Ashes? A bowler of his immense 85-90 pace needs more than a few months rest to recover...
So your saying he should only play 2 series a year becouse he needs recovery from injuries and ect
invest in a sarcasm detector.
Thank you.
As a reminder [MENTION=149054]shamaan[/MENTION] , after a brilliant World Cup and Ashes series, Archer was rested for around 2 and a half months before the New Zealand tour. He didn’t even play the warm up matches. However in the test matches, he was pretty terrible. (He averages around 50 I believe since the ashes). However [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] called him the best Test bowler in the world after Cummins and [MENTION=147292]RedwoodOriginal[/MENTION] stated that he was on the level of Rabada / Cummins etc.
When I pointed out his rubbish performance in New Zealand- they used his workload as the excuse. Apparently I don’t know anything about fast bowling - because I pointed out that surely more than 2 months rest was enough - but nope that was silly of me because he bowls sooooo fast.
This is extremely unfair for Archer. The fact that he's playing this match after two whole matches in the last series is just ridiculous. Isnt that so [MENTION=147292]RedwoodOriginal[/MENTION]? Thats the reason he’s been averaging 50 after the Ashes? A bowler of his immense 85-90 pace needs more than a few months rest to recover...
Archer on level of Cummins/Rabada? This guy will start whining and fake injuries if he is made to toil in the subcontinent heat on unforgiving pitches. He can't be bothered to up his pace on a wicket 'not worth it' at one of the fastest venues in England (where Broad/Anderson are getting good carry), and you believe he can come close to the marathon spells Cummins/Rabada have bowled in un-friendly conditions?Stand by what I said. He is on their level. Just because he isn't bowling that well at present doesn't change the fact that he has all the tools and ability to run through batting orders. Also, I gave an opinion. You can disagree with it without treating it as a fact of life. And instead of coming up with a retort after every innings that he bowls in I suggest waiting a year or two till he has significant matches under his belt.
Archer on level of Cummins/Rabada? This guy will start whining and fake injuries if he is made to toil in the subcontinent heat on unforgiving pitches. He can't be bothered to up his pace on a wicket 'not worth it' at one of the fastest venues in England (where Broad/Anderson are getting good carry), and you believe he can come close to the marathon spells Cummins/Rabada have bowled in un-friendly conditions?