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Archer limps off the field unable to finish his over because of what looks like a cramp in his hamstring. He has bowled 61.1 overs in just over a week. Surely he's being overworked?

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Caught cramp today</p>— Jofra Archer (@JofraArcher) <a href="https://twitter.com/JofraArcher/status/315610942379532289?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
England were always going to struggle and over bowled Archer like he is a workhorse, he is a genuine wicket taker and the fastest bowler in the team so it was going to come down to this especially after the amount of overs he put into his first test match.
 
He wouldn't have been overworked playing for WI...

Just imagine a 4 man attack of Roach, Gabriel, Holder and Archer.

Right now WI are playing Miguel Cummins instead.

I reckon they would be a Top 3 Test side with Archer and they wouldn't lose any games at home for sure.
 
Called it in the 2nd test match that Archer was being over bowled by Root.
 
He wouldn't have been overworked playing for WI...

Just imagine a 4 man attack of Roach, Gabriel, Holder and Archer.

Right now WI are playing Miguel Cummins instead.

I reckon they would be a Top 3 Test side with Archer and they wouldn't lose any games at home for sure.

They dont have the batsmen to be the top 4 side and no quality spinners as well.
 
They dont have the batsmen to be the top 4 side and no quality spinners as well.

England are 4th ranked and they are trash. And even Australia are ranked behind them.

South Africa is also garbage, they don't have any good players and just lost to SL at home. Yet they are ranked 3.

If Archer wanted to win the right way he should've played for West Indies.

To me it just looks as if he went the way of money and fame.
 
It was clear he was being over bowled. Even someone who plays regular test match cricket, imagine someone who doesn’t play much first class cricket. He needs to bowl in short and sharp spells to get the best out of him. If he carries on with this workload in tests that Root is giving him and juggling with other formats and T20 leagues, he could breakdown.
 
What a softie. You have Wahab Riaz bowling 30 plus overs per innings for Pakistan on the flat graveyard Pitches for Pakistan in the UAE in all 3 test matches and then you see him racing in bowling 30 plus overs per innings for Pakistan on the flat but bouncy wickets of Australia without the support of a 4th bowler and here you have Archer being over bowled where he has only bowled 18 overs in the innings
 
What a softie. You have Wahab Riaz bowling 30 plus overs per innings for Pakistan on the flat graveyard Pitches for Pakistan in the UAE in all 3 test matches and then you see him racing in bowling 30 plus overs per innings for Pakistan on the flat but bouncy wickets of Australia without the support of a 4th bowler and here you have Archer being over bowled where he has only bowled 18 overs in the innings

Not every fast bowler is as durable as Wahab. He's an exception, not the rule. Archer's also got a light frame. He has to be handled carefully in shorter spells.
 
Teams need to learn from Australia how to use fast bowlers so they have a long life. You can't get greedy with them even if they're on a roll. 4 over spells maximum.
 
Root has been over-bowling him, but apparently these were just cramps. Should be fine as long as he's not overused again. Should bowl moderate spells at best, short ones if bowling at full tilt.
 
What a softie. You have Wahab Riaz bowling 30 plus overs per innings for Pakistan on the flat graveyard Pitches for Pakistan in the UAE in all 3 test matches and then you see him racing in bowling 30 plus overs per innings for Pakistan on the flat but bouncy wickets of Australia without the support of a 4th bowler and here you have Archer being over bowled where he has only bowled 18 overs in the innings

wahab is a beast. Unfortunately for him he had no support at the time. Wahab is such an underrated bowler. Now with shaheen, abbas, ashraf and shinwari they have a good attack.
 
Teams need to learn from Australia how to use fast bowlers so they have a long life. You can't get greedy with them even if they're on a roll. 4 over spells maximum.

Depends on the situation and needs of the team. If the bowler is picking up wickets and striking, the captain will naturally keep his strike bowler on in order to go for the kill and to finish the other side off.
 
Depends on the situation and needs of the team. If the bowler is picking up wickets and striking, the captain will naturally keep his strike bowler on in order to go for the kill and to finish the other side off.

That's why I said you can't become greedy with genuine pacers for long term health. Watch Clarke handle Johnson for the Ashes series against England. That was textbook captaincy of handling a genuine pacer. There were many times he could have kept Johnson going but Clarke knew he'd lose steam and risk injury if he lengthened his spell. That paid off and Johnson maintained his pace for the whole series.
 
England are 4th ranked and they are trash. And even Australia are ranked behind them.

South Africa is also garbage, they don't have any good players and just lost to SL at home. Yet they are ranked 3.

If Archer wanted to win the right way he should've played for West Indies.

To me it just looks as if he went the way of money and fame.

The “right way”?

His father is a British citizen!

And the WI cricketing setup did not take care of his back injury properly.

Better job security + professional medical staff + higher pay + less corrupt board?

It’s an easy decision that anybody would make.
 
Abysmal handling by root. He's literally bowled Archer non-stop like he's some sort of 130k medium pacer. Just bowled him until he broke down. Completely mindless captaincy.

He's had only one trump card this series but hasn't known how to play it. Frankly after this series I don't know how he can carry on as captain.

But who else can they give it to? Stokes is obvious but his behaviour ay count against him.
 
Teams need to learn from Australia how to use fast bowlers so they have a long life. You can't get greedy with them even if they're on a roll. 4 over spells maximum.

Australia gave a 7 over spell to Cummins and Hazelwood almost bowled 13 overs on the trot.
 
England are 4th ranked and they are trash. And even Australia are ranked behind them.

South Africa is also garbage, they don't have any good players and just lost to SL at home. Yet they are ranked 3.

If Archer wanted to win the right way he should've played for West Indies.

To me it just looks as if he went the way of money and fame.

Idk where everyone gets the idea of money and fame from in the case of Archer. I can think back to Kevin Durant joining the Golden State Warriors NOT because of the nonsense of money and fame, but purely because it puts him in a better playing situation. Why can't that be said of Archer? Why are the assumptions always made he wanted "money and fame"
 
England are 4th ranked and they are trash. And even Australia are ranked behind them.

South Africa is also garbage, they don't have any good players and just lost to SL at home. Yet they are ranked 3.

If Archer wanted to win the right way he should've played for West Indies.

To me it just looks as if he went the way of money and fame.

south africa always will be a formidable test side. Give Lanka some credit. Sri Lanka have historically performed well in s.africa.
devilliers retired for that series and ngidi was injured in the second test.

They are in transition phase for batting. They have world class bowlers. Always will produce great fast bowlers.

nortje will come through next. nortje ngidi and rabada. backups are bosch, duppavillan and Hendricks.

For batting they have zubhair hamza waiting in the lines. He averages 50 in first class. de bruyn and Malan also average 45. They will come back strong as always.
 
Archer is not English and should not play for England. Simple as that. Idc wat anybody says.

And this goes for most expats playing for international teams.
 
Archer is not English and should not play for England. Simple as that. Idc wat anybody says.

And this goes for most expats playing for international teams.

Your comment is racist. He's a British citizen, so is his father. Moved to England at 18 and became eligible to play.
 
Your comment is racist. He's a British citizen, so is his father. Moved to England at 18 and became eligible to play.
It's not racist. He's from Barbados. Not England.

Go back to the Time Pass section and stay in your lane.
 
Archer limps off the field unable to finish his over because of what looks like a cramp in his hamstring. He has bowled 61.1 overs in just over a week. Surely he's being overworked?

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Yeah. Though Stokes bowled a lot more overs in the last innings.

The spinner should be bowling a lot more but he did not get on a day four and five pitch at Lord’s due to the rain, or at Leeds due to England’s awful first innings.

Woakes is supposed to be the workhorse but didn’t bowl much in this test.
 
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It's not racist. He's from Barbados. Not England.

Go back to the Time Pass section and stay in your lane.

lmaoo I've dropped gems of wisdom in this sub :)) . He is British, that's like saying you're from Karachi not America.
 
Archer is not English and should not play for England. Simple as that. Idc wat anybody says.

And this goes for most expats playing for international teams.

That actually is racist. You're saying that cricket loving immigrants should be punished for being an immigrant, and shouldn't be given the same oppurtunities as locals.

I wonder what the English team would look like if that rule was put into place. No Archer, Roy, Curran brothers, Morgan, they wouldn't have had KP, Stokes, and many many more players.
 
It's not racist. He's from Barbados. Not England.

Go back to the Time Pass section and stay in your lane.

I also find this racist or at least xenophobic nationalist. He has a British passport and has gone through the qualifying process.. By extension you are saying that only people born in England should be able to get a job in England.
 
lmaoo I've dropped gems of wisdom in this sub :)) . He is British, that's like saying you're from Karachi not America.
Difference is I was born and raised in the US. So I can call myself American.

It's like comparing Moeen Ali and Adil Rashid to Eoin Morgan and Jofra Archer. The first two are English, but the second two are not.
That actually is racist. You're saying that cricket loving immigrants should be punished for being an immigrant, and shouldn't be given the same oppurtunities as locals.

I wonder what the English team would look like if that rule was put into place. No Archer, Roy, Curran brothers, Morgan, they wouldn't have had KP, Stokes, and many many more players.
Then that sucks for them if they can't field a good team.
I also find this racist or at least xenophobic nationalist. He has a British passport and has gone through the qualifying process.. By extension you are saying that only people born in England should be able to get a job in England.
For me, wearing an English shirt is representing the English people. Not the immigrants.

Same can't be said for a random job. Where you would be representing a company instead of the country itself.
 
Difference is I was born and raised in the US. So I can call myself American.

It's like comparing Moeen Ali and Adil Rashid to Eoin Morgan and Jofra Archer. The first two are English, but the second two are not.

Then that sucks for them if they can't field a good team.

For me, wearing an English shirt is representing the English people. Not the immigrants.

Same can't be said for a random job. Where you would be representing a company instead of the country itself.

He's a naturalized citizen plus his dad is british, who cares if he moved at 18. Archer played all of first class cricket in England, he's a product of the English system. If you said Kevin Petersen wasn't an English product then I'd agree cause he started his career in South Africa and didn't play for England until 25. Would Archer have been the same player if he started off in the west indies? I don't think so.
 
Difference is I was born and raised in the US. So I can call myself American.

It's like comparing Moeen Ali and Adil Rashid to Eoin Morgan and Jofra Archer. The first two are English, but the second two are not.

Then that sucks for them if they can't field a good team.

For me, wearing an English shirt is representing the English people. Not the immigrants.

Same can't be said for a random job. Where you would be representing a company instead of the country itself.

So the immigrants aren't British then. They have no identity then, they are just labelled immigrants. SO are your parents American then, do they represent American people.

That sounds like a very American mentality, no point arguing. You would very rarely find people like that in NZ, where as half of USA is like that, I suppose that's the difference between the True land of the free (NZ) and the so called land of the free (USA).

In NZ no one would question an immigrant playing for a national team, our international teams usually have a good amount of immigrants, whether they are from Pacific Islands, South Africa, India, and no one cares, they are all Kiwi.
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/c...-commitment-dont-understand-fast-bowling.html

'If I had to bowl at 90mph every ball, I would be lucky to play half a season': England pace ace JOFRA ARCHER tells MARTIN SAMUEL that those who doubt his commitment don't understand fast bowling

Jofra Archer is staring wistfully out at the Wanderers wicket, the fastest track in the world according to many, all thin Johannesburg air and bounce. The ground is largely empty now, the series over. Archer featured in a single Test, the one England lost in Centurion.

'The thing is, I really, really wanted to play,' he murmurs. 'Not many days you get a nice, fast bowling wicket. Seeing Mark Wood bowl, seeing Anrich Nortje bowl, I would have been biting the coach's arm off to play.'

So that's the question about Archer's commitment to Test cricket answered. We're sitting in the one spot he has come to know well at the Wanderers, the dug-out where the water carriers and replacement fielders reside.

Archer has sprung from there on various occasions over the last four days, with drinks, with towels, with fresh equipment. Even then, observers try to read his demeanour. Does he look happy, does he look engaged, as if there is a proper level of focus involved in handing a batsman an isotonic drink.

Ice is melting around our feet, much as the furious enthusiasm around Archer has been slowly melting since winning the World Cup in the summer. Then, and after the Lord's Test in which his duel with Steve Smith riveted a nation, he was England's fast-bowling saviour.

Now he has even been depicted by some as its problem child. Questions have surrounded his fitness, his commitment, his enthusiasm for the long-form game. Kevin Pietersen even claimed England risked losing him without better care.

Yet, up close, the most striking aspect of Archer is his youth. He may have a wispy beard, and the capability to bowl extraordinarily fast, but he is in his own way, at 24, every bit as callow as Ollie Pope — certainly given his lack of experience in the English scheme.

The majority of Test players will have been known to the coaches, the selectors, to each other since their teenage years. Archer is new. His pathway into the English game is entirely different. Like Pietersen, he felt let down by his native country, and changed sides. Maybe that is why Pietersen projects his own struggles with authority on to the new man. Certainly, this winter, Archer has felt negative scrutiny and sympathy in equal measure, much as Pietersen once did.

Only when Friday morning found him in tears, as a painful right elbow again left him unable to play, was there an insight into his true feelings, beyond idle speculation about loyalties.

'It was a delayed start, so the coach said, "Take your painkillers, have a bowl, and let us know how you feel",' Archer recalls. 'He said we had up until the toss to make the decision. I thought I was in good contention to play but also that I didn't want to go in and then not be able to. I've seen the team stuck with four bowlers and the shared workload isn't great.

'But, against that, I haven't been able to play all year. So I just wanted to get out there in this last game, especially on a wicket that helps fast bowlers. But then the decision got taken out of my hands because I was not 100 per cent fit. It wasn't to be. That's why I was in tears.'

Archer, for all his qualities, feels vulnerable, as any player in his first year of Test cricket would. Does he get back in this team? Is he still wanted, still important?

In his absence, Wood took three wickets in Port Elizabeth, nine wickets in Johannesburg — and was also voted player of the match. While the pair would almost certainly have played together, elbow permitting, Archer is understandably apprehensive.

'Joe Root came up to me after and said because the decision was taken out of my hands I shouldn't think I'm not an asset for the team,' he says, smiling at the memory. 'That reassurance has been really good, especially coming from the captain. You don't have to put yourself under pressure, you don't have to be fit even before your body is fit.

'The last thing you need is to come rushing back and suffer a setback that keeps you out longer. It's not difficult for me, it's just different. It's not hard, but it's competitive. That's why I get upset when I'm not playing because if someone has a good game you automatically think they are going to stick with that player. That's why what Joe Root said was good.

'Looking back, I don't think it would have been the best move to play, for myself or the team. As the game has gone on, I've seen the number of overs the boys have bowled. It was the right decision.

'Now we go to Sri Lanka, and it might be a repeat of the pitches in New Zealand. If the elbow isn't good enough, I can't see them sending me to Sri Lanka. We've got a long summer of cricket coming up. We've got a Twenty20 World Cup and the physios will have a plan for my wellbeing.'

It's almost as if he's turning it all over in his mind as he speaks. At one moment desperate to just get out and play, at another realistic that the wickets in Sri Lanka are slow death to a bowler with his skillset. New Zealand must have felt like torture, too, particularly at Mount Maunganui, where Root bowled Archer for 42 overs as the hosts amassed 615 for nine. This, and other vignettes — a slower pace at a very chilly Old Trafford during the Ashes — have given rise to the notion that Archer does not care for Test cricket.

It is the first question Pietersen said he would ask him: does he want to even play the long-form game? Archer is adamant.

'Do I want to play Test cricket?' he queries. 'Yeah, yeah. I've got a few milestones I'd like to achieve — so I very much want to play Test cricket. It's not true that modern cricketers only want to be white-ball cricketers. Because I had a good World Cup that doesn't mean I only like World Cup cricket.

'I've played seven Test matches and got three five-wicket hauls. Even in the ones when I didn't take five, I took two or three. I'm pretty all right at Test cricket.

'It's a bit early to try to cement one form for me. Test cricket is fun. It's everything I imagined it would be — probably a few more five-day games than I hoped. All in all, it's gone really well. The last 18 months I wouldn't change for the world. For me, though, when I play a Test match, I want to get out there, bowl and get off the field as soon as possible.

'I don't like watching people scoring hundreds [the innings against New Zealand contained a double hundred for BJ Watling and 126 from Mitchell Santner]. The momentum, the intensity, goes up and down, and there are sessions when you feel the game isn't going anywhere. It's not always enjoyable. Sometimes you just have to contain, but then you've got five days and suddenly you can be going through a team.

'Then it's like it's on fast forward. That's the best thing about Test cricket. In a one-day game you don't get a chance to come back. If you start badly, you'll lose. In a Test match, certainly a Test series, you can return. We had everything thrown at us in South Africa, sickness, injury, we lost the first Test and then we came out victorious.'

So we look for clues about the origin of this rumoured aversion. I say that because Chris Gayle has been the best of West Indies cricket for more than a decade, and he seems to prefer white ball, perhaps there is now a general belief that all Caribbean-born cricketers feel the same.

'But I don't think Chris Gayle has even retired from Test cricket!' Archer counters. [This is true, but he also hasn't played it since September 2014, against Bangladesh.] 'That's a bad stereotype to think that anyone who comes from the Caribbean is going to be all about white-ball cricket.

'They say we only care about the money as well, and that's totally not the case. Chris Gayle's average in Test cricket is over 40.'

So what, then, of Pietersen's comments about England losing Archer from Tests, and more? 'I wasn't aware of what he said until the day Stuart Broad was doing an interview and he asked if there were any thoughts of mine I'd like him to project,' Archer adds. 'I didn't know what he was talking about. He explained Kevin had done an interview and Broad said if there was anything I didn't feel comfortable with, he could say a few things for me.

'So I looked at the interview and I didn't really agree with it. I'm very happy, you know. The captain makes me feel welcome, the team make me feel welcome — the media aren't always 100 per cent correct, and I don't read much social media because one day you're a s*** player and one good game and everyone is on your bandwagon. You can't please anyone sometimes.'

Archer feigns nonchalance but there are times when it is obvious social media bothers him. Lurking online are probably his harshest critics, those who dismiss his injuries, question his commitment, damn him for letting his speed drop. And like a lot of young people, he can't always look away.

'People don't care if you're sick, if you're injured, if you're battling something emotionally, they'll still have their opinion and there's nothing you can do,' Archer says.

'I try not to read anything but I can't always help seeing what is being said, everyone talking about how I play my game. It's a bit shocking really — because I'm a little bit different to other players, people aren't happy.

'I can't care what they think, though. People don't understand at all about fast bowling. I've never seen anyone who has played professional sport have a go at me. People who have been in that position have an idea of what you go through. You turn up, you're not going to get the same feel at a ground every day. It will not always be the same. You're only human — and there's stuff you're going to go through that's different.

'If you had to bowl 90mph every ball. you wouldn't play a whole season. Half, maybe, if you're lucky. Not all. Even Nortje in Johannesburg went through some spells where he wasn't 100 per cent and it just goes to show, you've got to know your body, you've got to know what you can give, you've got to know that you're good enough to be here in the first place, so you don't worry about what goes on off the field.

'I always try to bowl full intensity, but if you're tired your full intensity won't be 90mph. Day four, day five, when you've already bowled 30 overs in a game — that's understandable, surely?'

Indeed it is. And maybe that is what Archer needs most of all: understanding. It's certainly something Pietersen could relate to, as well: it's not easy being him.
 
He can't bowl at 97 mph all the time like he did in the Ashes. That NZ series has really taken its toll on him. You can always be a T20 league star and a world cup winner but test matches are much harder on fast bowlers and he needs to pace himself properly. Not everyone can bowl 140 average in tests like cummins/Starc etc.
 
He can't bowl at 97 mph all the time like he did in the Ashes. That NZ series has really taken its toll on him. You can always be a T20 league star and a world cup winner but test matches are much harder on fast bowlers and he needs to pace himself properly. Not everyone can bowl 140 average in tests like cummins/Starc etc.

Root has used archer as pakistanis use yasir shah in test cricket:yasir
 
He needs some rest and Root should be fired, should have been a long time ago really
 
England fast bowler Jofra Archer underwent further scans on his injured right elbow today in the UK. The scans confirmed that Archer has suffered a low-grade stress fracture of the right elbow.

As a result of the injury, he has been ruled out of England’s Test tour of Sri Lanka and the Indian Premier League 2020 season.

He will now commence an injury rehabilitation programme with the ECB medical team with a view to be ready for the international summer campaign starting in June against West Indies in a three-match Test series.
 
Root is the nation's darling.

The problem is it blinds them from realising he's a poor captain! In terms of skills and resources, England is the most blessed cricket team going about right now. Yet they so consistently underachieve.
 
This was said a long time ago that root does not understand how to rotate his bowler well. And now this giy lose out on millions.

Root is a terrible captain and should be removed. Beating a dead horse like SA is not a high achievment SL did the same the other day.

Keeping root as captain will lead to more injuries to the england bowlers.
 
He’s done what he was assigned to do and that was to win a World Cup for England. The rest is history now
 
A blessing in disguise. He will be all ready and recharged to torment West Indies and Pakistan in the upcoming summer.

He is easily the most exciting young fast bowler in the world, and England need to ensure that his workload is managed.

I would personally like to see him skip T20s outside the highest forms of T20 cricket (IPL and WT20s).
 
He was overworked in Ashes and I mentioned that in the Ashes thread as well. After that it was just catching up. Still I think considering the modern day cricket and its workload Archer needs to achieve high level pf fitness to achieve what he should.
 
Root’s bowler management appears to have improved in SA, perhaps under the influence of Silverwood. He is using Wood in short bursts. I am sure that will continue when Archer returns.
 
Jofra Archer: Joe Root defends use of injured fast bowler

England Test captain Joe Root has defended the team's use of Jofra Archer following the fast bowler's injury.

The 24-year-old has been ruled out of England's tour of Sri Lanka next month and the Indian Premier League because of a low-grade stress fracture in his right elbow.

Archer has played all three formats of the international game since his England debut in May 2019.

"I wouldn't say he's been over-bowled," Root said.

Archer first felt pain in the elbow area in last year's triumphant World Cup campaign and though England insisted the problem was carefully managed, he bowled more overs than any of his international team-mates in 2019.

He has sent down 274 overs in his first seven Tests, in which he has taken 30 wickets, with some critics commenting that 42 overs in the first innings of his maiden overseas match in New Zealand in November was excessive.

Root, however, pointed to the Barbadian-born fast bowler's spells in the Big Bash and Indian Premier Leagues before he qualified to play for England last year as contributory factors.

"You look at the amount of cricket he's played before he played for England, he's played a huge amount, and he came into international cricket and took the world by storm," said Root.

"He's had a phenomenal start on the international stage and should be extremely proud of what he has achieved already in his short career.

"You just look at the international schedule and it's full on if you're playing all three formats. Chuck in an IPL, Big Bash… that's a lot of mental fatigue as well as physical."

Archer is now aiming to be fit for the English summer and the three-match Test series with West Indies in June.

"One of the pleasing things is we are actually really clear on what the injury is now," added Root.

"We're all gutted for him missing out, but it will be good for him to have a mental break to get some time away from the game, to get refreshed."

Anderson in contention for Sri Lanka tour

Meanwhile, Root said England's leading Test wicket-taker James Anderson, who broke a rib in the second Test of the series in South Africa, could feature in the two-match series with Sri Lanka, starting in Galle on 19 March.

"He'll certainly be a discussion point, I'm sure," Root said of the 37-year-old, the fourth-highest wicket-taker in Test history.

"The discussion will be where exactly he's at with his fitness, and what the parameters are ahead of what's going to be a big summer of cricket as well."

All-rounder Moeen Ali took a break from cricket last year but is part of England's one-day squads in South Africa.

However, Root said the 32-year-old's wellbeing is more important that a return to Test cricket.

"It'd be great if he's available but... we've got to make sure that he's happy within himself," said Root. "He's enjoying his cricket and that he doesn't rush back if he doesn't need to. His wellbeing is a priority for us."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/51429134
 
Joe “50” ruining the best English fast-bowling prospect since Botham.
 
[SUP][/SUP]Joefra Archer bowled more overs than every other English bowler in every innings of 4 ashes tests he played except in two innings where he was one over short of someone like Overton with much less pace and on other occasion he was second to Broad by two overs.

Not to forget he was asked to bowl 8-10 overs on a go regularly in 4 matches he played.

What else is called over bowling someone? Its pretty odd the way Root has been handling this issue since ashes and denying over bowling him when ashes stats of number of overs bowled in those 4 tests he played and how many consecutive overs he bowled.

This was a perfect recipe to break a 90mph bowler.
 
Archer made his England debut on May 3rd, 2019.

Most overs bowled by pacers since then across all formats:

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Cummins... What a player.
 
Overbowling is just an excuse for his poor bowling. Broad has bowled just 10 less overs, over a shorter time period, since the Ashes started August 1st.
 
Overbowling is just an excuse for his poor bowling. Broad has bowled just 10 less overs, over a shorter time period, since the Ashes started August 1st.

Broad also bowls 5mph on average slower than Archer and is hardened by years of international experience.
 
England may look at easing Archer workload - Silverwood

Chris Silverwood says England may reduce Jofra Archer's workload when he returns to fitness after the paceman suffered a low-grade stress fracture of his right elbow.

Archer flew home from the tour of South Africa last week and has been ruled out of the Test series against Sri Lanka and the Indian Premier League, although Rajasthan Royals is still hoping he can play a part in the tournament.

England Test captain Joe Root denied the paceman has been overbowled early in his international career.

Head coach Silverwood has conceded that England may need to consider using Archer in shorter spells to give him the best opportunity to stay fit.

"Things like [bowling 40 overs in an innings] we have to look at," Silverwood said. "But sometimes, when needs must, you've got to do it.

"We managed Mark Wood through both the Test matches he's played here and he's bowled in short, sharp spells. Would we look to do that now with Jof? Yes, we probably would."

Archer bowled more overs than any of his England team-mates last year, but Silverwood would not take a different approach if he could go back in time.

"Not really. It's just a case of: his injury occurred, the first scan didn't show us where it was, the second has. We can now put a plan in place and get him going for our summer," the former England seamer said.

"Being a fast bowler is hard work. It is hard work. Ask Jimmy [Anderson], ask [Stuart] Broad, ask any of them. Being a fast bowler is hard work. It's just how it is."

He added: "We can't turn the clock back, all we can do is look to the future and say, 'Well, how are we going to do it from now on?'"

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cric...ood-says-south-africa-ipl/article30789378.ece
 
I am quite surprised by Archer's injuries at such a young age. Maybe the work is too much for him which he got at such a young age.
 
Jofra Archer feels he is progressing well from an elbow injury that ruled him out of England’s tour of Sri Lanka and has his “fingers crossed” about featuring in this year’s Indian Premier League.

After putting pen to paper on a two-year contract extension at Sussex that will keep him at the club until at least the end of the 2022 season, Archer revealed he had another scan on his troublesome right elbow on Wednesday.

The results have not yet been disclosed but it was initially thought the express paceman would be sidelined for around three months after being diagnosed with a low grade stress fracture.

But Archer is optimistic about his recovery, and while the problem has come at an inconvenient time for him, the 24-year-old spoke about the benefits of being able to take a breather following a hectic past few months.

“The elbow is fine, I haven’t felt it for the last few weeks now so I think it’s making good progress,” he said in a video on Sussex’s website.

“I’m not targeting anything. I’ve played a lot of cricket so I don’t think I’ll forget how to play cricket even if I don’t do anything for the next couple of months.

“It’s actually nice to just take a break. I’m not happy that it’s come at this time but I’m also grateful that I’m getting the chance to relax and take a step back for a bit.”

Archer will be absent for England’s two-Test series in Sri Lanka as he continues to convalesce and it was initially thought he would miss the entire IPL campaign, which starts on March 29 and finishes on May 24.

It may yet be the case that England’s prognosis is correct and, because Archer is a centrally contracted player, they ultimately have the final say over when and where he will make his return.

The elbow is fine, I haven't felt it for the last few weeks now so I think it's making good progress

But asked whether he could play for Rajasthan Royals at some point in this year’s IPL, Archer responded: “You never know, fingers crossed.

“I’ll probably have some more information when I get it re-scanned. It could be a bit longer, I might have to wait, it could be a bit shorter.”

Archer was England’s leading wicket-taker in their triumphant World Cup campaign and then took 22 scalps at an average of 20.27 in the Ashes in a breakthrough international summer, before a more underwhelming winter.

He took only two wickets in as many matches against New Zealand but recorded a third five-for in only his seventh Test against South Africa at Centurion before going down with an elbow injury that first surfaced during the World Cup.

The complaint led to Archer missing the final three Tests in the 3-1 series win over the Proteas as well as the three Twenty20s which followed.

But it is hoped he will be fit for the start of the English summer and the first Test against the West Indies, which gets under way on June 4 at The Oval.

News of Archer’s injury led to scrutiny on his workload as he bowled more overs in 2019 than any of his England team-mates, despite only making his international bow last May.

However, he refused to apportion blame to anyone as he said: “It’s not an issue for me, I don’t think it’s an issue for anyone. Anyone that knows me knows my capacity and what I can and can’t do.

“It’s not anyone’s fault that you get injured, you’re only human and bones and stuff break. It’s not necessarily your fault or anyone’s fault.”

Since making his debut for Sussex in July 2016, Archer has taken 196 wickets in 97 matches across all three formats, including 131 victims in 28 first-class appearances.

Archer said: “Sussex gave me my opportunity right at the beginning of my career, so I am very happy to commit long term to the club.”

Sussex head coach Jason Gillespie added: “I’m really looking forward to having him play for us when his England commitments allow. He loves playing for Sussex – he’s like a kid in a candy store! We all love having him around.”

https://www.eastlothiancourier.com/...er-insists-elbow-fine-optimistic-playing-ipl/
 
He shouldn't rush himself back for the IPL. He doesn't want to get injured again.
 
Archer said he is "making good progress" and has not given up hope of playing in the Indian Premier League.

It was originally thought he would not play for Rajasthan Royals in this year's IPL, which runs from 29 March to 24 May, because of a low-grade stress fracture in his right elbow.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/51752523

I guess Archer still has a chance of making IPL. Don't know if that would be the best decision though.
 
Archer said he is "making good progress" and has not given up hope of playing in the Indian Premier League.

It was originally thought he would not play for Rajasthan Royals in this year's IPL, which runs from 29 March to 24 May, because of a low-grade stress fracture in his right elbow.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/51752523

I guess Archer still has a chance of making IPL. Don't know if that would be the best decision though.

imo he should skip ipl but the players need to make money too. Ipl really has ruined many players.
 
Following a repeat MRI scan undertaken this week in London, Jofra Archer has been reviewed by the ECB medical team and is progressing as expected from the stress fracture to his right elbow sustained during the South Africa tour in January. He will have a further scan in mid-April before a return to competitive cricket.

Archer’s focus will be playing for England, starting with the West Indies Test series, which commences in early June. He will play County Championship cricket in May for Sussex to ensure his preparation is optimal for Test cricket.

His current rehabilitation will progress to a full gym programme and continued running work over the next two weeks.

His back to bowling programme will commence towards the end of March working closely with ECB Young Lions coach and seam bowling specialist Jon Lewis and Sussex bowling coach James Kirtley.
 
Archer looking quite tired and weary in this second session on Day 2. Perhaps a result of this long Shan vigil. Should he have been rested for this game?
 
Comes across as very lazy.

He should be asked to bowl 3-4 overs at full pelt.
 
If he can't improve his fitness we may see him just become an LOI specialist like Amir.
 
This is extremely unfair for Archer. The fact that he's playing this match after two whole matches in the last series is just ridiculous. Isnt that so [MENTION=147292]RedwoodOriginal[/MENTION]? Thats the reason he’s been averaging 50 after the Ashes? A bowler of his immense 85-90 pace needs more than a few months rest to recover...
 
This is extremely unfair for Archer. The fact that he's playing this match after two whole matches in the last series is just ridiculous. Isnt that so [MENTION=147292]RedwoodOriginal[/MENTION]? Thats the reason he’s been averaging 50 after the Ashes? A bowler of his immense 85-90 pace needs more than a few months rest to recover...

So your saying he should only play 2 series a year becouse he needs recovery from injuries and ect
 
invest in a sarcasm detector.

Thank you.

As a reminder [MENTION=149054]shamaan[/MENTION] , after a brilliant World Cup and Ashes series, Archer was rested for around 2 and a half months before the New Zealand tour. He didn’t even play the warm up matches. However in the test matches, he was pretty terrible. (He averages around 50 I believe since the ashes). However [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] called him the best Test bowler in the world after Cummins and [MENTION=147292]RedwoodOriginal[/MENTION] stated that he was on the level of Rabada / Cummins etc.

When I pointed out his rubbish performance in New Zealand- they used his workload as the excuse. Apparently I don’t know anything about fast bowling - because I pointed out that surely more than 2 months rest was enough - but nope that was silly of me because he bowls sooooo fast.
 
Over-rated in Tests right now. There was a period today where Woakes and Archer were bowling in tandem, and Woakes looked head and shoulders above Archer.
 
Thank you.

As a reminder [MENTION=149054]shamaan[/MENTION] , after a brilliant World Cup and Ashes series, Archer was rested for around 2 and a half months before the New Zealand tour. He didn’t even play the warm up matches. However in the test matches, he was pretty terrible. (He averages around 50 I believe since the ashes). However [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] called him the best Test bowler in the world after Cummins and [MENTION=147292]RedwoodOriginal[/MENTION] stated that he was on the level of Rabada / Cummins etc.

When I pointed out his rubbish performance in New Zealand- they used his workload as the excuse. Apparently I don’t know anything about fast bowling - because I pointed out that surely more than 2 months rest was enough - but nope that was silly of me because he bowls sooooo fast.

Stand by what I said. He is on their level. Just because he isn't bowling that well at present doesn't change the fact that he has all the tools and ability to run through batting orders. Also, I gave an opinion. You can disagree with it without treating it as a fact of life. And instead of coming up with a retort after every innings that he bowls in I suggest waiting a year or two till he has significant matches under his belt.
 
This is extremely unfair for Archer. The fact that he's playing this match after two whole matches in the last series is just ridiculous. Isnt that so [MENTION=147292]RedwoodOriginal[/MENTION]? Thats the reason he’s been averaging 50 after the Ashes? A bowler of his immense 85-90 pace needs more than a few months rest to recover...

Your obsession with Archer is hard for me to understand. I still think he is among the best fast-bowlers in the world regardless of how he is bowling at present. And that has more to do with his ability, talent, skills rather than anything else. Also, I base my opinions on what I see, so regularly bringing inconsequential stats to my attention won't do have much of an effect.
 
Stand by what I said. He is on their level. Just because he isn't bowling that well at present doesn't change the fact that he has all the tools and ability to run through batting orders. Also, I gave an opinion. You can disagree with it without treating it as a fact of life. And instead of coming up with a retort after every innings that he bowls in I suggest waiting a year or two till he has significant matches under his belt.
Archer on level of Cummins/Rabada? This guy will start whining and fake injuries if he is made to toil in the subcontinent heat on unforgiving pitches. He can't be bothered to up his pace on a wicket 'not worth it' at one of the fastest venues in England (where Broad/Anderson are getting good carry), and you believe he can come close to the marathon spells Cummins/Rabada have bowled in un-friendly conditions?
 
Archer on level of Cummins/Rabada? This guy will start whining and fake injuries if he is made to toil in the subcontinent heat on unforgiving pitches. He can't be bothered to up his pace on a wicket 'not worth it' at one of the fastest venues in England (where Broad/Anderson are getting good carry), and you believe he can come close to the marathon spells Cummins/Rabada have bowled in un-friendly conditions?

Cummins is the best among all of them (Bumrah included). But Archer is in the same club.
 
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