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I am no fanboy of Babar but honestly who will be full time 3 format captain, if not Babar ? Only Shaheen, Rizwan and Shaheen are confirm 3 format players. Shaheen being a fast bowler cant play 3 formats without taking rests and injury breaks. Rizwan i don't think deserves to play ODI.
 
Cric_lover4487 said:
I am no fanboy of Babar but honestly who will be full time 3 format captain, if not Babar ? Only Shaheen, Rizwan and Shaheen are confirm 3 format players. Shaheen being a fast bowler cant play 3 formats without taking rests and injury breaks. Rizwan i don't think deserves to play ODI.
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Why do you even need a full time all format captain? Which other top team has an one captain policy?
 
This was Babar Azam's squad, he hand-picked these players.

There is not one player in the World Cup squad who Babar did not want in India.

By picking that squad, by standing by them, you are putting your neck on the line.

The fact that they underperformed, the fact that he underperformed as skipper and was probably one of the worst captains at the World Cup, he has to take a large share of the responsibility, as any captain in this position would.
 
Saj said:
This was Babar Azam's squad, he hand-picked these players.

There is not one player in the World Cup squad who Babar did not want in India.

By picking that squad, by standing by them, you are putting your neck on the line.

The fact that they underperformed, the fact that he underperformed as skipper and was probably one of the worst captains at the World Cup, he has to take a large share of the responsibility, as any captain in this position would.
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He was the worst period.

Even the weakest teams like nedtherlands had unity. Junaid Khan rightly pointed out, zero unity amongst ourselves.
 
This timid player is a poison to the team they need to get rid of him and send him packing. Has been playing for several years without anything g to show for. Just cheap numbers and stats against second string attacks and teams like Netherlands
 
Saj said:
This was Babar Azam's squad, he hand-picked these players.

There is not one player in the World Cup squad who Babar did not want in India.

By picking that squad, by standing by them, you are putting your neck on the line.

The fact that they underperformed, the fact that he underperformed as skipper and was probably one of the worst captains at the World Cup, he has to take a large share of the responsibility, as any captain in this position would.
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If Babar had been a manager like me in a company, he would certainly have been fired. He made maximum decisions, disregarded the suggestions from others and was authoritarian. With an attitude-like that, if you don't deliver, you get fired.
 
I've always admired non-subcontinent teams for their lack of hero worship, no excessive PR, and no hype surrounding individual players. They prioritize winning games over individual glory, treating every player equally.
 
Savak said:
Cannot wait for the PCB to brutally axe him as captain. The most frustrating captain and person to put up with. He has made me miss Misbah which is really saying something
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I swear you had an issue with Zaka Ashraf removing him as captain??
 
*** for tat

Every action has an equal reaction

As you sow, shall you reap

PCB is a synonym of chaos instability volatility, now they got it in players performance too much tinkering and favorrtism has led them to worldwide humiliation, cannot see this team winning a test series for next 5-6 years
 
Reality not meeting expectations. Does not have the talent to be a lot better than he is .
 
Despite his inability to play spin, some fans still consider him an elite batter.

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One of the best threads on PP. Sums up the Babar Azam blind following perfectly. These fans are almost as revolting as Misbah's diehard fans
 
Rana said:
I swear you had an issue with Zaka Ashraf removing him as captain??
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Like you once said, his opinions change with the wind. Not sure if he's trying to be relevant or if he has multiple personalities or there's more than one individual positing on his account :ROFLMAO:
 
Like Actors have some blockbuster movies and sometimes flop, same is for Babar , people still drool over his drives
 
Babar azam fans were delusional the moment they claimed that he is the best odi, test and t20 batter for pakistan all time.

The best test batter for pakistan is younis khan and it's not even up for debate. He has a 52 avg, 34 centuries and has scored a century in every country he has played in. His only red flag is sa where he's been poor otherwise he's dominated everywhere including aus.

For Babar to even be in contention for no 1, not only does he need to up that avg to 50 and score atleast 30 test centuries with 10K test runs, but he also needs to score a test century in every nation he's played in of which he hasn't. Barring aus, he has zero test centuries in sa,nZ and eng. He also lacks test centuries in 2 other countries.

In odi and t20 it's a bit debatable since although he averages 56 with 19 odi centuries, he also plays in an easier era and no top order batter from the past Sachin, Pointing and lara included averaged 50+. So the argument is impact in which case saeed Anwar and inzi have him beat. So does yousaf tbf.

In t20 he has 3 t20 centuries with a 39 avg, it's not bad but the strike rate is up for debate. But depending on arguments you can argue whatever.

However test and odi it's clear as day he isn't anywhere close to being the best
 
I think captaincy has ruined him. It’s not just his record after the first time he lost captaincy is worse. Which has happened to quite a few players. Shoaib Malik was an example just fell off as a player after that. But focus on captaincy has taken away from focus on development as a player. Which is no surprise as he had to learn captaincy on the job, being far less experienced and a natural affinity than others.

We just made the same mistake again, appointed a player captain just because they were the best batsman. Captaincy shouldn't be learnt in international cricket like this. He didn’t even have a platform to practice it before captaincy given that Karachi Kings were reluctant to give him captaincy.

Still almost feels like people are happy about his decline. For all his faults, this has been our best batsman over all three formats, consistently performing for about 6/7 years. That really isn’t bad, especially from a nation that doesn’t produce many batsmen. If you dissect nearly all these Pakistani batsmen they’re all a bit overrated with inflation against minnows etc., they don’t compare well with the great batsmen of other countries.
 
ads101 said:
I think captaincy has ruined him. It’s not just his record after the first time he lost captaincy is worse. Which has happened to quite a few players. Shoaib Malik was an example just fell off as a player after that. But focus on captaincy has taken away from focus on development as a player. Which is no surprise as he had to learn captaincy on the job, being far less experienced and a natural affinity than others.

We just made the same mistake again, appointed a player captain just because they were the best batsman. Captaincy shouldn't be learnt in international cricket like this. He didn’t even have a platform to practice it before captaincy given that Karachi Kings were reluctant to give him captaincy.

Still almost feels like people are happy about his decline. For all his faults, this has been our best batsman over all three formats, consistently performing for about 6/7 years. That really isn’t bad, especially from a nation that doesn’t produce many batsmen. If you dissect nearly all these Pakistani batsmen they’re all a bit overrated with inflation against minnows etc., they don’t compare well with the great batsmen of other countries.
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It's very difficult to find captaincy material in Pakistan because most of the players these days are too meek and don't have an idea how to handle the spotlight. Some of Pakistan's ex captains have let fame got to their head.

I don't think there's any issues with making a one of the best or most established players captain, the issue is when you give someone appoint a captain who simply isn't captaincy material.

Babar never had anything going for him as captain. He's not a leader nor does he have the self-confidence to be one.
 
Babar's fan ?, Does he still has any fan, what for ? Either you are true cricket follower or a Babar's fan .
 
topspin said:
Bewal Express, Hitthestump, khyberlion (ex-PakEngFan), major, heddie, caved, daytrader to name a few
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That's OK, everyone has a right to be fan of someone , even Misbah has couple of fans on this forum, don't know why ?
 
Hitman said:
Remember @Bilal7 ? He was claiming before the last ODI WC how his Babbar Sher would roar like a lion and end his career as the greatest ever batsman from Asia.
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Babar just became joint-fastest to 6000 ODI runs, alongside Hashim Amla. Kohli is third on this list. Babar also has the highest average of any batsman at 6000 ODI runs.

It's pretty clear that Babar will end his career as the superior ODI batsman.

In test cricket, I don't see Babar surpassing the greats from Asia but he can certainly end up better than Kohli in this format as well. Kohli has zero accomplishments in test cricket, he has been playing second or third fiddle for pretty much his entire career.

In T20 cricket, Babar has some catching up to do with Kohli but 2/3 is a good place to be for now.
 
Bilal7 said:
Babar just became joint-fastest to 6000 ODI runs, alongside Hashim Amla. Kohli is third on this list. Babar also has the highest average of any batsman at 6000 ODI runs.

It's pretty clear that Babar will end his career as the superior ODI batsman.

In test cricket, I don't see Babar surpassing the greats from Asia but he can certainly end up better than Kohli in this format as well. Kohli has zero accomplishments in test cricket, he has been playing second or third fiddle for pretty much his entire career.

In T20 cricket, Babar has some catching up to do with Kohli but 2/3 is a good place to be for now.
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Wasn't he supposed to roar like a 'babbar sher' and end up as the greatest batsman ever from Asia replacing Tendulkar, according to you? How did the standards fall all of a sudden?
 
Bilal7 said:
Babar just became joint-fastest to 6000 ODI runs, alongside Hashim Amla. Kohli is third on this list. Babar also has the highest average of any batsman at 6000 ODI runs.

It's pretty clear that Babar will end his career as the superior ODI batsman.

In test cricket, I don't see Babar surpassing the greats from Asia but he can certainly end up better than Kohli in this format as well. Kohli has zero accomplishments in test cricket, he has been playing second or third fiddle for pretty much his entire career.

In T20 cricket, Babar has some catching up to do with Kohli but 2/3 is a good place to be for now.
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Babar will end his career as a better ODI batsman than Kohli? I won't even dignify this joke with an opinion 🤡🤡
 
Hitman said:
Wasn't he supposed to roar like a 'babbar sher' and end up as the greatest batsman ever from Asia replacing Tendulkar, according to you? How did the standards fall all of a sudden?
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This is the same guy who wanted Pakistan to select Junaid Khan over Shaheen for the 2019 WC. There's a reason why he only appears before the tournament and then goes into hiding until the next ICC event.
 
Rana said:
He returned around the 2023 World Cup too and made a joke of himself then as well.

This guy was put on the hot seat and he said Rizwan is a better T20 opener than Jaysuriya
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I remember very well bro. I saw it with my own eyes. Substandard poster.
 
Bilal7 said:
Babar just became joint-fastest to 6000 ODI runs, alongside Hashim Amla. Kohli is third on this list. Babar also has the highest average of any batsman at 6000 ODI runs.

It's pretty clear that Babar will end his career as the superior ODI batsman.

In test cricket, I don't see Babar surpassing the greats from Asia but he can certainly end up better than Kohli in this format as well. Kohli has zero accomplishments in test cricket, he has been playing second or third fiddle for pretty much his entire career.

In T20 cricket, Babar has some catching up to do with Kohli but 2/3 is a good place to be for now.
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Absolute joke.

Kohli despite a form slump still avg 58 in odi cricket with over 50 centuries and many of them coming in icc events. Averages in odi don't matter anymore, your icc event performance tally does but kohli's beats babar in virtually every metric in odi cricket be it

Avg, Sr, no of centuries and half centuries, tournament performances etc. Babar being ahead of kohli at the same stage is such a flawed metric since he cashed in on b strings like the one we saw vs sa in the tri series but on current form he can't even cash in on them anymore. Dudes avg has now fallen to 55 from 61.

Kohli sucks in test cricket, no one disagrees but even in test cricket he still has a higher avg, better performances in most countries and will retire with 30 test centuries or who knows he might end up getting 1 to 3 more before he kicks the bucket.

Babar won't ever reach the same tally nor do I believe he'll raise his avg to 46
 
mominsaigol said:
Absolute joke.

Kohli despite a form slump still avg 58 in odi cricket with over 50 centuries and many of them coming in icc events. Averages in odi don't matter anymore, your icc event performance tally does but kohli's beats babar in virtually every metric in odi cricket be it

Avg, Sr, no of centuries and half centuries, tournament performances etc. Babar being ahead of kohli at the same stage is such a flawed metric since he cashed in on b strings like the one we saw vs sa in the tri series but on current form he can't even cash in on them anymore. Dudes avg has now fallen to 55 from 61.

Kohli sucks in test cricket, no one disagrees but even in test cricket he still has a higher avg, better performances in most countries and will retire with 30 test centuries or who knows he might end up getting 1 to 3 more before he kicks the bucket.

Babar won't ever reach the same tally nor do I believe he'll raise his avg to 46
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Funny how I specifically mentioned a verifiable stat that shows Babar is ahead of Kohli at the same stage in their careers but you go and mention Kohli's 50 centuries. Babar will catch up. He also has more World Cups to play, unlike Kohli.

I wouldn't be so confident Kohli ends his test career with an average of 46.
 
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Babar Azam is currently experiencing a slump, which has shaken his confidence. However, with time, patience, and a bit of luck, he'll regain his form and continue to cement his status as one of Pakistan's greatest batsmen
 
Thing is Babar was never a great player.

He is a good accumulator level player.

But Pakistan's last good white ball batsmen were MoYo and Inzy who retired in 2007.

Most Pakistan fans are young (Pakistan is a youngish country) so when Babar came about after a decade of Umar Akmal, Shehzad and the ilk he was overhyped. Also these guys never saw Inzy/MoYo or for that matter, the even older Javed/Saeed who imo are Pakistan's best ODI batsmen.

Add in all the records/rankings he achieved due to weaker teams etc, the hype increased.

He is a solid 45-50 averaging player (w/o B-C teams) and pre 2011 would be a 35-40 averaging player with an 75-85 SR.
 
People just ignore all the stats and records and make assumptions based on assumptions. Babar has a great dip in form and he is having problems but multiplying his achievement in the pat with zero does not fix anything nor it is fair..

Yep, I hope he scores runs now in CT otherwise time is up for him to stay in the team.. Bye bye waiting..
 
Bilal7 said:
Funny how I specifically mentioned a verifiable stat that shows Babar is ahead of Kohli at the same stage in their careers but you go and mention Kohli's 50 centuries. Babar will catch up. He also has more World Cups to play, unlike Kohli.

I wouldn't be so confident Kohli ends his test career with an average of 46.
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I wouldn't be so confident babar catches up to kohli with 50 centuries nor would I be confident he manages to stay on a 42 test avg
 
Bilal7 said:
Funny how I specifically mentioned a verifiable stat that shows Babar is ahead of Kohli at the same stage in their careers but you go and mention Kohli's 50 centuries. Babar will catch up. He also has more World Cups to play, unlike Kohli.

I wouldn't be so confident Kohli ends his test career with an average of 46.
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Babar isn't ahead of Kohli simply because cricket has changed. Kohli played 4 years in the one new ball era and it is only recently (especially post covid) when bilateral ODIs have B/C teams which Babar has taken full advantage of (not his fault).

Babar is 30y 100 odd days old.

Let us take Kohli's career up til that point.

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Kohli averages nearly 60. ABDV, the other great player during that time averages 60+.

Amla, Sanga, Dhoni, Rohit etc all average nearly 50.

So gap of Kohli/ABDV vs the next tier is almost 10.

Kohli had 10k+ runs with 40 centuries.

From Babar's debut to now.

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Overshadowed by both Kohli and Rohit who has better average, more runs, more centuries and this includes 4-5 years of Kohli/Rohit past their 2018/19 peaks in their late 30s.

Mind you, this also includes the innumerable Zimbabwe series as well as B/C attacks especially during IPL which the other batsmen didn't get.

Even if you do post covid, when Babar became the "king" Shubman has a better average and SR. And Shubman actually opens and we are all seeing Babar's opening exploits.

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Anyone still defending Babar really needs their head read. He is definitely the most useless batsman in the team. The only “batsman” more useless than Babar is probably Khushdil, but even then Khushdil can bowl. Babar is officially the most useless player in the team.

An absolute embarassment.
 
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