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[PICTURES] Is the Border-Gavaskar Trophy (2024-25) the final frontier for Virat Kohli's Test career?
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Biggest matches kohli played vs pakistan:
2017 ct final
2011 wc semi
No great performance
Vs aus:
2015 semi
2023 final
Wtc final
No trophy to show
Kphli is so overrated in ko stages. He never performs in ko stages of odi world cup that's why I actually don't rate him highly in odi
He had the worlds best attack in peak form in 2019. Dropped guess what shami and played yuzi channel and this babbu kumar.
Effin tulla. And then kept playing msd and jhadav when he knew they are past it. We could have won the wc in 2019.
In 2023 pitch played a role in the final and we were without pandya and pant. Pandya was key for us. Also I would say jaiswal should have played over sky. Sky has full pr so yea
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Kohli should retire after australia tour now. No matter if he smashes them or he fails in the next games, time is up for him and he should retire
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Virat Kohli has scored the most runs in SENA Test victories among Indian batters
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SF 2015 - clearly failed
2023 final- 53 off 64 balls. He did not fail. if you have followed the match conditions/expert view, its pitch conditions ( bad pitch doctoring). The same pitch Pakistan was bundled out for 190 due to slowness/dryness of the pitch
Kohlis knock out in t20
2014 t20 semis against SA- Man of the match
2014 t20 final- 77 against SL
2016 t20 virtual quarter final against AUS- Man of the Match
2016 t20 semis- 87 off 48 .
2022 t20 pak league match- 26 off 8 needed. the famous/infamous two back to back sixes
2013 ODI champions trophy final - Highest run getter
2022 t20 final- 76 runs with India scoring highest runs in a world final.
2023 odi semifinal- Century
2023 ODI final- half century. Its KL Rahul's 66 off 105 which undone India, not kohl's 53 off 63 balls
Objectively speaking , Kohli failed in some key Knock out matches but surely scored more/contribued than he failed in knock outs. You should avoid confirmation bias and speak with stats/data.
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Sunil Gavaskar took centre stage and compared Virat Kohli to tennis legends like Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal, and Novak Djokovic as when they do not lift titles, people think that they are out of form, he said:
“It’s like I said in commentary that Roger Federer, Novak Djokovic, and Rafa Nadal, they are title winners. If they lose in the semi-finals, people say, ‘Oh, they’re not in form.’ Anybody else getting into the semi-finals, you would say, ‘Oh, what a wonderful performance‘,”
“Similarly, with Virat Kohli, because everybody is so used to him scoring so many hundreds quite regularly, when he doesn’t score 100, even if he’s getting 70-80—which a lot of guys will be very happy to get—people say, ‘Look, he’s not scoring runs.’ And that is the reason why there was that feeling. But then again, Indian fans, they’re greedy fans. They’re not going to be happy with their idol scoring only 60-70s. They want their icons, their idols, to score hundreds, and that is the reason there was this little talk about, ‘Oh, he hasn’t got a hundred since July 2023.’ July 2023 is just about a year ago,”
“It’s like I said in commentary that Roger Federer, Novak Djokovic, and Rafa Nadal, they are title winners. If they lose in the semi-finals, people say, ‘Oh, they’re not in form.’ Anybody else getting into the semi-finals, you would say, ‘Oh, what a wonderful performance‘,”
“Similarly, with Virat Kohli, because everybody is so used to him scoring so many hundreds quite regularly, when he doesn’t score 100, even if he’s getting 70-80—which a lot of guys will be very happy to get—people say, ‘Look, he’s not scoring runs.’ And that is the reason why there was that feeling. But then again, Indian fans, they’re greedy fans. They’re not going to be happy with their idol scoring only 60-70s. They want their icons, their idols, to score hundreds, and that is the reason there was this little talk about, ‘Oh, he hasn’t got a hundred since July 2023.’ July 2023 is just about a year ago,”
Arguably the greatest player in ICC events? Surely has to be in the conversations.
His 55* against Pakistan in Kolkata 2016 wt20 is one of the most underappreciated knocks of all time. All the celebs (Amitabh, Sachin, Amir) were present in that match and India were under Huge pressure in that match after losing badly the opener against NZ and Kohli almost single handedly won us the match against Pakistan who were underwhelming with ball. That was a virtual knockout match against arch rivals for us due to poor net run rate after huge defeat against Nz.
Kohli also won the Man of the Series on 3 different occasions.
2014 WT20
2016 WT20
2023 ODI WC
No other batsmen has even won more than 1 Man of the Series award in ICC Tournaments.
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I don’t think anyone from the whole subcontinent has ever delivered as much as Kohli did in ICC ko events.
The best KO player from Asia.
In odi he was poor. Averages only 31 across wc's in ko stages. And icc odi tourneys. That's poor.
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Oh no.who knocked out australia in 2016 world t20
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In 2015 World Cup also, Kohli again proved that he was the father of Pakistan by scoring a match winning hundred vs Pakistan.
He already gave heartbreak to Pakistan in that T20 World Cup 2022 which confirmed any doubts if anyone was having.
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Virat Kohli loves playing at the Adelaide Oval
- Matches: 4
- Innings: 8
- Runs: 509
- High Score: 141
- Average: 63.62
- Strike Rate: 54.03
- Hundreds: 3
- Fifties: 1
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I'm asking for Australia.
What you and @Devadwal don't understand is that Travis head has been the phupa of India in 2 icc events while Kohli has been the Rejected Bhanja of Australia in 2015 and 2023.
Travis Head > Kohli
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BG 20024 final frontier for Kohli? I am not sure how this thread make sense.
Kohli's total number of tons in Aus > Last 10 years all Aus bastmen tons in India
Kohli's total number of tons in Aus > Last 10 years all Aus bastmen tons in India
Wow this is some stats. Kohli still has Four more game to score atleast one hundred.
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he is back on track... surely he wil get 2 more centuries on this tour.
Laga di na najar .ab ek bhi ni ayegai
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nahi lagti nazar... 2 pakki hain lolLaga di na najar .ab ek bhi ni ayegai
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Stay on topic now
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Let’s make it one more in Adelaide Virat.
King is global face of cricket .
Australian PM said "My personal doctor is a huge fan of Virat Kohli - fan isn't quite a word to explain how passionate he is for Virat Kohli. When I told him, I am gonna meet Virat Kohli, he couldn't believe - he asked me to get an autograph of Kohli
Australian PM said "My personal doctor is a huge fan of Virat Kohli - fan isn't quite a word to explain how passionate he is for Virat Kohli. When I told him, I am gonna meet Virat Kohli, he couldn't believe - he asked me to get an autograph of Kohli
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Kohli has a great record in Adelaide but we may see otherwise soon
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On a serious note, On 90 percent of occasions (talking about Kohli of late) he would perform only when someone supports him from the other end or someone has just given team a stable start. Unlike Travis Head, he can't do great or start offensive on his own.
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Adam Gilchrist said while speaking to a sports media outlet after the 2nd Test match of the Border-Gavaskar Trophy 2024-25:
"The biggest battle, is not with what's coming towards you from the bowler or the skill of the opposition, it's more about battle between your ears. So, not suggesting that Virat scrambled any sense, but maybe he's got to try and hone in on what Sachin Tendulkar did at the SCG. And say 'right he'd say, right, I'm not gonna go chase anything outside off stump. You come to me.' You just play the patience game."
"He's got enough experience under his belt to know that he's mentally tough. He's carried the weight of expectation since U-19 level, entering the IPL and becoming the icon that is. He should be able to say to himself, I'm going to do what's within my capacity to do the best thing for the team and if it's a long patient game, so be it. If you play long enough, you're probably gonna have to evolve with different ways and this might be an opportunity for Virat to do that."
"The biggest battle, is not with what's coming towards you from the bowler or the skill of the opposition, it's more about battle between your ears. So, not suggesting that Virat scrambled any sense, but maybe he's got to try and hone in on what Sachin Tendulkar did at the SCG. And say 'right he'd say, right, I'm not gonna go chase anything outside off stump. You come to me.' You just play the patience game."
"He's got enough experience under his belt to know that he's mentally tough. He's carried the weight of expectation since U-19 level, entering the IPL and becoming the icon that is. He should be able to say to himself, I'm going to do what's within my capacity to do the best thing for the team and if it's a long patient game, so be it. If you play long enough, you're probably gonna have to evolve with different ways and this might be an opportunity for Virat to do that."
Varat kohli
Is dog fences level crap
He averages 15 in 2024 in any chases under 400
In the last 5 years it's 26.75 lmao in chases
Biggest stat padder fodder of all time. Just like sanga
Travis head is 10 times better than this guy.
Most overrated test batsman of all time along with a few others.
Actually i am inclined to put even sanga over him.
pathetic loser. Never seen someone get a free pass for non performance. Desi indians worship him like he is god. Sure he won icc titles but tests is what creates legends.
that is shockingly bad. In any chase under 300 runs he has failed every time
even in chases in Ko stages. He never once stepped up in odi in difficult situarions.
travis head stood up for his team twice already.
In t20 he did play well thats about it.
in tests name me one performance by him in tough sena conditions for a match winning cause?
He only scores when opening duo already put up big scores. It doesn't count when you are 300 up for 2 like in the first test of this series. Bgt.
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Is dog fences level crap
He averages 15 in 2024 in any chases under 400
In the last 5 years it's 26.75 lmao in chases
Biggest stat padder fodder of all time. Just like sanga
Travis head is 10 times better than this guy.
Most overrated test batsman of all time along with a few others.
Actually i am inclined to put even sanga over him.
pathetic loser. Never seen someone get a free pass for non performance. Desi indians worship him like he is god. Sure he won icc titles but tests is what creates legends.
that is shockingly bad. In any chase under 300 runs he has failed every time
even in chases in Ko stages. He never once stepped up in odi in difficult situarions.
travis head stood up for his team twice already.
In t20 he did play well thats about it.
in tests name me one performance by him in tough sena conditions for a match winning cause?
He only scores when opening duo already put up big scores. It doesn't count when you are 300 up for 2 like in the first test of this series. Bgt.
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Comparing an all format batter with one format specialists never made any sense to me.
Like for example a common criticism by @jeeteshssaxena is that Head is below crapola Indian batters because they happen to average higher is hilarious.
Travis Head is an all format batsmen. An all format batsmen who averages 40+ in tests and odi, Followed by a monster t20 sr of 160, Followed by wc final, wtc wins and has frequently owned the no 1 bowler (bumrah) is a quality act.
The truth is Travis Head is better then 99% of Indian batters to have ever played the game.
Don't get me wrong, Bumrah has also gotten the better of Head but the fact that these 2 have such a fierce Rivalry shows the class of Travis Head.
The biggest issue with Indian posters is that they overrate their players to stupidity.
Rohit, Sachin, Dhoni, Kohli, Laxman, Ashwin, Jadeja, Ganguly and many others are no where near as good as they are hyped to be. Their good but not even close to the hype that fraud Indians have generated.
The Indian cricketers I prefer are the likes of Dhawan, Sehwag, Bumrah and many others who are brilliant players but don't get the credit they deserve.
Sehwag stepped up on big occasions more then Sachin did( in odi's), similarly dhawan stepped up and carried India in icc events more so then rohit did.
Travis Head is > majority of Indian batters in its history. If he wasn't then the greatest bowler India has ever had aka bumrah and he wouldn't be rivals
You are not wrong
Put it this way.
Give bumrah and shami a head in the team. Guess what happens? India win more icc events. All those finals we lost no way we lose it. They just need one man to step up
Did rohit or kohli step up? In tests?
In t20 ok I will give them that somewhat. Even there both failed in the final. Virat got lucky in the final. He failed through out the group stages and semis.
Bumrah carries the team along with hardik and arshdeep. Arshdeep us clutch. I say try him in tests. 6.3 can swing and can bowl long spells. Keeps it tight.
Also not once did kohli or rohit ever step up in ko stages in finals. Never. Not in 2023
Not in 2019
Couldn't even chase a paltry 238 lmao.
Vs nz.
And then in 2015 ok that was vs an atg team in their backyard. That was tough to win but even there what did virat do? Got out in single digits
How can someone call him or rohit a legend????
Mind boggling.
Stats nor eye test nor performance back them up
I repeat Head >> virat rohit in all formats except t20
Head > ganguly, dravid etc in odi
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It's also why I put yuvi > Rohit and every Indian posters threw a hissyfit.
Yuvi before cancer is 10x the player that HTB rohit is. The guy single handidely made sure that India was the first team to adapt to t20. And made sure that 2011 wc was sealed for India.
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first we need to ask this question to VK himself that is he ready to handle australian pace and bounce
Yes but yuvi dint perform in tests bro. Have to be a test great to be regarded as a true atg.
Head performed in tests too. Head away record in some other countries at the moment is a little poor but his career is not over. He can turn it around
He steps up in big games. A few more good away tours and he could go down as one of the greatest.
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Adelaide was a nightmare for Kohli but let's see how he performs in Gabba
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Sunil Gavaskar has urged Virat Kohli to overcome his off-stump line troubles and score as many as four hundreds while talking to local Indian sports broadcast media:
"If he scores a century in Brisbane, it will be great. It's an incentive as well as you know that you join a club if you score a century in Brisbane, the one to score a century everywhere in Australia."
"After that, going forward he will play in Melbourne and Sydney, where he has scored centuries. So he can score centuries there as well. It means he can score four centuries in the series."
"Even Bradman never had a series where he scored in every Test match. You are bound to fail in an odd Test. I hope his failure in Adelaide will be offset by strong performances in the remaining three Tests."
"With the slight issue he’s having outside the off-stump — which every batter experiences at some point — if he plays cautiously to those deliveries, the runs will come."
"If he scores a century in Brisbane, it will be great. It's an incentive as well as you know that you join a club if you score a century in Brisbane, the one to score a century everywhere in Australia."
"After that, going forward he will play in Melbourne and Sydney, where he has scored centuries. So he can score centuries there as well. It means he can score four centuries in the series."
"Even Bradman never had a series where he scored in every Test match. You are bound to fail in an odd Test. I hope his failure in Adelaide will be offset by strong performances in the remaining three Tests."
"With the slight issue he’s having outside the off-stump — which every batter experiences at some point — if he plays cautiously to those deliveries, the runs will come."
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@FearlessRoar was right, this BGT series will determine the fate of Kohli in Test format.
Whenever pressure is on the keeeng always and I mean always fails to deliver in tests. Also in odi.
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I think, fate ahs already been decided if BCCI is sane enough. Virat is a dead weight and there is no way a player like him can stay longer in the squad.
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