[PICTURES/VIDEOS] A case for Sharjeel Khan: no sense to keep him out of the side

[mominsaigol]

Rizwan is maximising the team output unlike others , team management failed in their decision of selecting other players what if Rizwan was dropped the replacement Azam was even worst . Simple as that

Okay so before I respond let me make this very clear.

When you mentioned certain players, aka players as in plural you were only talking about rizwan? So what was the point of using the word players and not say the word rizwan?

 

[Rana]

Cause he's a keeper, so we must lower our expectations.

That's why Quinton was selected in place of bavuma, Every one knows Bavuma should be selected over Quinton but he was dropped because the standards were too high for bavuma but too low for quinton.

Oh now I understand bro. Valid point. I was shocked as to why Quinton was picked ahead of Bavuma. I’ll lower my expectations going forward accordingly.

 

[shaz619]

Sharjeel is the Deontay Wilder of cricket, not exactly the most sound technically, but absolutely destructive, the quality of opposition is irrelevant because every chin takes knocking and every ball takes smacking; especially the manner in which bowlers are dealt with. Yesterday the answer was Sharjeel, today the answer is Sharjeel and while he is slightly out his pomp, the answer still is Sharjeel for the next couple of years at least. Nobody is asking you to play him in Tests, that ship has long sailed, like a clean shaven Misbah, but in T20’s and potentially ODI’s, you got to have a few screws loose not to consider him. You talk about fitness and picked Azam Khan, Rizway is always cramping and needs Oxygen after attempting lofts, in fact he needs physiotherapy after that wild slog against Bumrah, probably pulled his shoulder or something there’s not enough meat there. Sharjeel’s form has been decent he was one of the best players in the President’s cup to, players who bat for the team are not going to have fancy stats, but good selections are based on actually watching players and looking who is best for which spot and not how we can accommodate x or y in our line up.

Watching Sharjeel open with Kamran Akmal, Afridi in the lower order and Younis KING Khan as the leader, bought back fond memories and reminded me that I actually use to be a Pakistan fan, I would bet with my life the champions team would evicerate the international team, Khan said he took it upon himself to restore some pride and I agree, he wears his heart on his sleeve and say what you want about him or Pakistan as a country, he genuinely is a patriot and plays for the moon and the star, the same can not be said for Babar as a leader, and you all hated on Khan as a LOI player but he delivered a LOI trophy and in the current era would out perform Babar across all forms because he didn’t Bat like a coward.

On Misbah ul Haq, he is clueless as to what is best for others; either that or just wants to set people up to fail. BUT when it comes to himself he knows what works best, and is willing to bat in the correct position at least. Selfish guy for sure but I was reminded of a few of his positives which I hoped he’d leave us with when he hung his gloves….but no.

 

[Rana]

Rizwan is maximising the team output unlike others

How? A strike rate of 110 in world cups? As an opener?

So Pakistan is on PNG level?

 

[Kianig89]

Okay so before I respond let me make this very clear.

When you mentioned certain players, aka players as in plural you were only talking about rizwan? So what was the point of using the word players and not say the

Okay so before I respond let me make this very clear.

When you mentioned certain players, aka players as in plural you were only talking about rizwan? So what was the point of using the word players and not say the word rizwan?

Obviously most of the players didn't performed upto expectation therefore Pakistan failed to qualify , it is about maximising the output that's why some bowlers and batsmen ( combination) is required otherwise a team can play with 11 World class batsman or bowlers yet end up on losing side

 

[Rana]

Yesterday the answer was Sharjeel, today the answer is Sharjeel and while he is slightly out his pomp, the answer still is Sharjeel for the next couple of years at least. Nobody is asking you to play him in Tests, that ship has long sailed

Ahh Hell Yeaah!

 

[mominsaigol]

Sharjeel is the Deontay Wilder of cricket, not exactly the most sound technically, but absolutely destructive, the quality of opposition is irrelevant because every chin takes knocking and every ball takes smacking; especially the manner in which bowlers are dealt with. Yesterday the answer was Sharjeel, today the answer is Sharjeel and while he is slightly out his pomp, the answer still is Sharjeel for the next couple of years at least. Nobody is asking you to play him in Tests, that ship has long sailed, like a clean shaven Misbah, but in T20’s and potentially ODI’s, you got to have a few screws loose not to consider him. You talk about fitness and picked Azam Khan, Rizway is always cramping and needs Oxygen after attempting lofts, in fact he needs physiotherapy after that wild slog against Bumrah, probably pulled his shoulder or something there’s not enough meat there. Sharjeel’s form has been decent he was one of the best players in the President’s cup to, players who bat for the team are not going to have fancy stats, but good selections are based on actually watching players and looking who is best for which spot and not how we can accommodate x or y in our line up.

Watching Sharjeel open with Kamran Akmal, Afridi in the lower order and Younis KING Khan as the leader, bought back fond memories and reminded me that I actually use to be a Pakistan fan, I would bet with my life the champions team would evicerate the international team, Khan said he took it upon himself to restore some pride and I agree, he wears his heart on his sleeve and say what you want about him or Pakistan as a country, he genuinely is a patriot and plays for the moon and the star, the same can not be said for Babar as a leader, and you all hated on Khan as a LOI player but he delivered a LOI trophy and in the current era would out perform Babar across all forms because he didn’t Bat like a coward.

On Misbah ul Haq, he is clueless as to what is best for others; either that or just wants to set people up to fail. BUT when it comes to himself he knows what works best, and is willing to bat in the correct position at least. Selfish guy for sure but I was reminded of a few of his positives which I hoped he’d leave us with when he hung his gloves….but no.

Misbah is fine as a player when he isn't captaining. He's not a legend nor is he a goat, infact his entire innings is him still finding his footing, but the stability he provides is okay.

On top of which he's always been YK's bunny. YK is the only one who can virtually walk all over misbah and Misbah let's him. In 2015 YK walked in and misbah couldn't do a damn thing.

In 2009, YK told misbah to take his pads off and not bat and misbah couldn't do a damn thing.

It's the same reason Misbah is batting at no 6, YK knows full well that Misbah is only their to provide stability of quick wickets fall and just hold the end of Either himself or Afridi.

If Misbah was captain, YK would be opening, Sharjeel would be no 4 and Kamran Akmal would be no 7.

 

[mominsaigol]

Obviously most of the players didn't performed upto expectation therefore Pakistan failed to qualify , it is about maximising the output that's why some bowlers and batsmen ( combination) is required otherwise a team can play with 11 World class batsman or bowlers yet end up on losing side

Okay, good to know that you have singlulars and plurals finally corrected.

Now how does Rizwan maximise output as an opener? Let's break this down step by step. According to you, What are the key metrics that you are using to justify rizwan maximising pakistan's output at opening?

 

[Rana]

Okay, good to know that you have singlulars and plurals finally corrected.

Now how does Rizwan maximise output as an opener? Let's break this down step by step. According to you, What are the key metrics that you are using to justify rizwan maximising pakistan's output at opening?

@Kianig89 you can simply apologise for your arrogance when jumping into this discussion. It doesn’t have to be this way pal. We will understand.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

How? A strike rate of 110 in world cups? As an opener?

So Pakistan is on PNG level?

haha in WCs not even 110... its around 100 lol

 

[Rana]

haha in WCs not even 110... its around 100 lol

But he’s maximising his output? He’s a T20 opener. He opened in every T20 World Cup game he has played.

So @Kianig89 should explain this.

 

[Kianig89]

@Kianig89 you can simply apologise for your arrogance when jumping into this discussion. It doesn’t have to be this way pal. We will understand.

But he’s maximising his output? He’s a T20 opener. He opened in every T20 World Cup game he has played.

So @Kianig89 should explain this.

So Rizwan is responsible for every defeat or other players bad performance

 

[Rana]

So Rizwan is responsible for every defeat or other players bad performance

He is a major reason, yes.

 

[mominsaigol]

So Rizwan is responsible for every defeat or other players bad performance

I think you should answer questions from the people asking you first before asking yours and then we'll answer.

Again question was how does rizwan maximise output. What are the metrics you are using.

Answer that and I'll answer your question that you just asked.

 

[Kianig89]

I think you should answer questions from the people asking you first before asking yours and then we'll answer.

Again question was how does rizwan maximise output. What are the metrics you are using.

Answer that and I'll answer your question that you just asked.

What if Rizwan failed , so he is the only one responsible and does that leads us to bring back Sharjeel Khan.

 

[mominsaigol]

So Rizwan is responsible for every defeat or other players bad performance

Sigh, I'll answer this but then I expect you to answer mine.

Rizwan is not responsible for every defeat or every bad performance. This isn't even related to the question of maximising output.

Rizwan is responsible for major defeats though. Asia cup 2022 final is 60% him, 30% chacha and 10% rest.

Against India he's solely responsible for the collapse that occurred, Main culprit is him, then 2nd would be Imad wasim for the axar patel misses although it's debatable due to the pitch conditions at the time and how badly indian batters collapsed from 9vers 16 to 20.

Asia cup 2023 is also mostly him for chocking at the end.

Psl 2024 final is mostly him etc etc.

Rizwan being an opener who doesn't utilise the PP will defo put more Heat on him and babar then others for obvious reasons, as these 2 are the only 2 openers in the world who follow the ideology of

Let's bat through till 20th, While other teams have the ideology of let the top order bash in PP and let the middle order do the rest from overs 7 to 20.

So anytime these 2 fail at their job of Batting till 20th, heat will be on them, and don't blame the fans as both babar and rizwan themselves made this claim, Themselves operate on it and themselves fail at their job they themselves assigned.

 

[mominsaigol]

What if Rizwan failed , so he is the only one responsible and does that leads us to bring back Sharjeel Khan.

I asked you a question that you yourself claimed.

You claimed rizwan maximises the team output. I'm asking you what metrics are you using to claim that.

It isn't a hard question. Idk why you can't answer this.

 

[Kianig89]

Sigh, I'll answer this but then I expect you to answer mine.

Rizwan is not responsible for every defeat or every bad performance. This isn't even related to the question of maximising output.

Rizwan is responsible for major defeats though. Asia cup 2022 final is 60% him, 30% chacha and 10% rest.

Against India he's solely responsible for the collapse that occurred, Main culprit is him, then 2nd would be Imad wasim for the axar patel misses although it's debatable due to the pitch conditions at the time and how badly indian batters collapsed from 9vers 16 to 20.

Asia cup 2023 is also mostly him for chocking at the end.

Psl 2024 final is mostly him etc etc.

Rizwan being an opener who doesn't utilise the PP will defo put more Heat on him and babar then others for obvious reasons, as these 2 are the only 2 openers in the world who follow the ideology of

Let's bat through till 20th, While other teams have the ideology of let the top order bash in PP and let the middle order do the rest from overs 7 to 20.

So anytime these 2 fail at their job of Batting till 20th, heat will be on them, and don't blame the fans as both babar and rizwan themselves made this claim, Themselves operate on it and themselves fail at their job they themselves assigned.

So Rizwan got out carelessly and told others to get out . Thank you

 

[Kianig89]

I asked you a question that you yourself claimed.

You claimed rizwan maximises the team output. I'm asking you what metrics are you using to claim that.

It isn't a hard question. Idk why you can't answer this.

Rizwan is a keeper his replacement was Azam Khan , keeping that in mind , Rizwan maximised the output than Azam Khan.

 

[mominsaigol]

So Rizwan got out carelessly and told others to get out . Thank you

He didnt tell others to get out which is why I put imad wasim as the 2nd blame.

Regardless Idk why you can't answer your own claim? You claimed rizwan maximise output? I'm asking what are the key metrics you are using to determine that?

It's not difficult to answer?

Here I'll ask @Rana

Rana what metrics are you using to determine Sharjeel should open ahead of Rizwan in t20 cricket?

 

[Rana]

So Rizwan got out carelessly and told others to get out . Thank you

Rizwan getting out for 0 having wasted 1 ball is still more useful to the side instead of him being their for 40 balls and scoring 30, like he did against India.

 

[mominsaigol]

Rizwan is a keeper his replacement was Azam Khan , keeping that in mind , Rizwan maximised the output than Azam Khan.

Is azam khan representstive of the whole team or is he a singular individual who played one game only?

Again your words are RIZWAN MAXIMISED PAKISTAN’S OUTPUT.

I'm asking how, Azam Khan is not pakistan, he's a member who got one game and isn't relevant to the team 11 set up that played the games thereafter.

 

[Rana]

Rana what metrics are you using to determine Sharjeel should open ahead of Rizwan in t20 cricket?

Plain and simple:

-See ball, Hit ball!

-Cause as much damage as you can to the opponent.

-Every ball in the powerplay must go. Every ball that is there to be hit must be sent to the fence.

-No thinking about what will happen if you get out. There are 6-7 other guys who are selected to bat that will do a lot better if you bring down the target for them.

-The team needs 200+ on the board, you as the opener have the best chance to give your side that big score having maximised every ball in the powerplay.

-If you are chasing a 180+ score, you as the opener have the best chance to make it easier for your team by scoring as much as you can in the powerplay and giving your middle+lower order players a manageable run rate to chase the score.

 

[mominsaigol]

Plain and simple:

-See ball, Hit ball!

-Cause as much damage as you can to the opponent.

-Every ball in the powerplay must go. Every ball that is there to be hit must be sent to the fence.

-No thinking about what will happen if you get out. There are 6-7 other guys who are selected to bat that will do a lot better if you bring down the target for them.

-The team needs 200+ on the board, you as the opener have the best chance to give your side that big score having maximised every ball in the powerplay.

-If you are chasing a 180+ score, you as the opener have the best chance to make it easier for your team by scoring as much as you can in the powerplay and giving your middle+lower order players a manageable run rate to chase the score.

@Kianig89

^^ Is this hard? I'm not even asking you to make it as detailed as @Rana did.

Question was: How does rizwan maximise pakistan's output.

I'm sure you can come up with a logical answer rather then saying Azam Khan.

 

[mominsaigol]

Rizwan getting out for 0 having wasted 1 ball is still more useful to the side instead of him being their for 40 balls and scoring 30, like he did against India.

I think it's over mate, he clearly doesn't want to answer or doesn't know how to answer his own claims so theirs no point in continuing.

But then again I'm not suprised. If someone was to ask me how rizwan maximises output I'd respond with, I don't know.

 

[Rana]

I think it's over mate, he clearly doesn't want to answer or doesn't know how to answer his own claims so theirs no point in continuing.

But then again I'm not suprised. If someone was to ask me how rizwan maximises output I'd respond with, I don't know.

It’s good that these people are now being put to trial for their absurd views which they have pushed since 2019. They used to get away with it then because the euphoria was too strong. They deserve these reality checks and humiliations.

 

[mominsaigol]

It’s good that these people are now being put to trial for their absurd views which they have pushed since 2019. They used to get away with it then because the euphoria was too strong. They deserve these reality checks and humiliations.

What I do is ask questions on what they themselves claim.

Usually people who are genuine can answer.

People who aren't either stop responding, or just backtrack or just try to divert it away or act like they never stated what they said.

Also tbf 2019 was a fine period. I don't think rizzu was even their, He was dropped and kicked out before the wc.

2020 era is where everything went to Sh@t

 

[Hyder]

Let’s see if happen first.

Sharjeel>>>Babar and Rizwan as T20 openers

Let’s see this happen. And then Babar batting at 3, Rizwan at 4 or 5. And don’t talk about ‘depths of love’ especially having blundered with your justification of Rizwan’s pathetic T20 approach as an opener because he is a keeper.

How sharjeel is superior to babar. His sr is 133 over 20 games wheres babar has 130 in 120 games. How is he better?

 

[shaz619]

The blind support for Babar and Rizwan is unreal, even after what happened in the World Cup people are still asleep or in typical Pakistani fashion too stubborn. Sharjeel is no angel I get it but he has quietly gone about his way and is a genuine opener who qualifies for the no.1 or no.2 position in LOI cricket, he represents a brand of cricket which is desperately needed in Pakistan Cricket. Players like Sharjeel, Fakhar and Mo. Harris possess the attributes which are more prudent in modern cricket than ever before, these attributes were understood nearly 15 years ago and we weren’t perfect then, but that’s not the point, key point is that the requirements were understood. How can you support individuals who are so out of touch, out of depth, selfish, delusional and unpatriotic, players who are serial losers and quit when the going gets tough, they have taken the soul of Pakistan cricket away. Both Babar and Rizwan are worse than Covid, because in the midst of such depravity, Pakistan cricket was a charismatic escape, now it’s a miserable cesspit on life support, watching the openers is like being on life support and waiting for euthanasia, it’s legal in the Netherlands isn’t it? some former Pakistan supporters have already taken their fandom there like these two:

Duo euthanasia: Why a happily married couple decided to die together - BBC News

Jan and Els sought medical intervention to end their lives after 50 happy years of marriage.

www.bbc.co.uk

We can exit after watching these champions league matches, a memory of what we had, oh boy, we didn’t know what we had did we.

 

[Hyder]

What I do is ask questions on what they themselves claim.

Usually people who are genuine can answer.

People who aren't either stop responding, or just backtrack or just try to divert it away or act like they never stated what they said.

Also tbf 2019 was a fine period. I don't think rizzu was even their, He was dropped and kicked out before the wc.

2020 era is where everything went to Sh@t

You compared sharjeel with finn allen. Brought finn allen out of nowhere in discussion
One guy sr is 158 and other guybstruggle at 133 and u eant us to believe sharjeel is some world beater

 

[Hyder]

He is a major reason, yes.

Fakhar, Saim, Chacha, Usman are bigger reasons. Accept it that ur hitters and ur so called smashers smashed pakistans hopes this wc. Rizwan played atrocious shot against india yet he was the highest run getter but that doesnt lift the crticism and he deserves all the criticism for that. But fakhar and iftikhar and amir are the reason we were knocked out not rizwan. These guys had no guts and played like spineless men wanting to go home.

 

[mominsaigol]

You compared sharjeel with finn allen. Brought finn allen out of nowhere in discussion
One guy sr is 158 and other guybstruggle at 133 and u eant us to believe sharjeel is some world beater

No, I want you to understand how t20 opening works.

I ask you again, what was the sr of Sharjeel when he scored 59 in t20 or what was his sr when he made that 157 in odi.

If you wish, you may include Rizwan’s sr from his 131 game and compare and contrast.

Failures will naturally decrease sr And avg, In the same way its showcased when rizwan wasnt opening pre 2020 or during 2022 wc and 2024 wc

 

[RyanRyan10]

How sharjeel is superior to babar. His sr is 133 over 20 games wheres babar has 130 in 120 games. How is he better?

Sharjeel's played most of his innings in the years 2013 and 2016, during a time when scoring runs was lower than it is now. In 2016, Sharjeel's strike rate was 135. Babae's strike rate in 2016 and 2017 was 121.

 

[Kianig89]

@Kianig89

^^ Is this hard? I'm not even asking you to make it as detailed as @Rana did.

Question was: How does rizwan maximise pakistan's output.

I'm sure you can come up with a logical answer rather then saying Azam Khan.

Rizwan maximises the team output because he was better than the players available in the WC, is that so hard to understand what if Rizwan was dropped, Abrar would be the wicket-keeper NO, it was Azam Khan and everybody knows AzamKhan is not the solution.

The talent Pakistan team or talent available in Pakistan is what we will compare it with, because international team is not franchise cricket, Pakistan always had their gameplan or strategy to win games.

Bowlers with wicket taking ability and miser econ. Batsmen have been inconsistent for us! Unfortunately PCB never paid attention to it or adapt with modern cricket and the world has caught Pakistan team like Nasser Hussain and David Lloyd said Pakistan cricket is left behind.

If Pakistan can unearth 2 x Kohlis and 1x Gilchrist from our domestic setup tomorrow, Rizwan and Babar will be history but atm these are our Category A players and we will have to work on their limitations than to discard them because unlike Sharjeel Khan they've performed for Pakistan

 

[Hyder]

No, I want you to understand how t20 opening works.

I ask you again, what was the sr of Sharjeel when he scored 59 in t20 or what was his sr when he made that 157 in odi.

If you wish, you may include Rizwan’s sr from his 131 game and compare and contrast.

Failures will naturally decrease sr And avg, In the same way its showcased when rizwan wasnt opening pre 2020 or during 2022 wc and 2024 wc

What was his sr when he scored 59? Seriously?

 

[mominsaigol]

What was his sr when he scored 59? Seriously?

Yes, what his sr when he scored 59 and 157 SERIOUSLY

 

[mominsaigol]

Rizwan maximises the team output because he was better than the players available in the WC, is that so hard to understand what if Rizwan was dropped , Abrar would be the wicket-keeper NO, it was Azam Khan and everybody knows AzamKhan is not the solution.

The talent Pakistan team or talent available in Pakistan is what we will compare it with, because international team is not franchise cricket, Pakistan always had their gameplan or strategy to win games.

Bowlers with wicket taking ability and miser econ. Batsmen have been inconsistent for us! Unfortunately PCB never paid attention to it or adapt with modern cricket and the world has caught Pakistan team like Nasser Hussain and David Lloyd said Pakistan cricket is left behind.

If Pakistan can unearth 2 x Kohlis and 1x Gilchrist from our domestic setup tomorrow, Rizwan and Babar will be history but atm these are our Category A players and we will have to work on their limitations than to discard them because unlike Sharjeel Khan they've performed for Pakistan

So he maximises the team output by existing? And not by actually doing his job?

 

[Rana]

So he maximises the team output by existing? And not by actually doing his job?

That’s all him and Babar have to do. That’s the accountability level. They are doing their jobs as long as they are good ambassadors of Islam

 

[mominsaigol]

That’s all him and Babar have to do. That’s the accountability level. They are doing their jobs as long as they are good ambassadors of Islam

I think one question that should be asked is

In 2017 if I said, Pakistan will win the CT. Mark my words, and bookmark and highlight this comment for when Pakistan reaches the final, Fakhar Zaman scores that massive century, Amir dismantles the top order and sarfraz Ahmed takes the final catch.

Now for all Rizzu fanboys out their, Be 100% honest, Can you honestly say

Pakistan will win 2025 CT, Mark my words, and bookmark and highlight this comment for when Pakistan reaches the final, Muhammad rizwan scores a century, takes the final catch and Shaheen dismantles the opposition top order.

Genuinely ask them if they think rizwan is ever scoring a century in the final with the likes of Bumrah bowling.

 

[Hyder]

I think one question that should be asked is

In 2017 if I said, Pakistan will win the CT. Mark my words, and bookmark and highlight this comment for when Pakistan reaches the final, Fakhar Zaman scores that massive century, Amir dismantles the top order and sarfraz Ahmed takes the final catch.

Now for all Rizzu fanboys out their, Be 100% honest, Can you honestly say

Pakistan will win 2025 CT, Mark my words, and bookmark and highlight this comment for when Pakistan reaches the final, Muhammad rizwan scores a century, takes the final catch and Shaheen dismantles the opposition top order.

Genuinely ask them if they think rizwan is ever scoring a century in the final with the likes of Bumrah bowling.

All u do is assume and hypothesise and never provide any factual evidence or conclude anything meaningful. Nobody can say mark my words x player ll score a century.

 

[Bhaijaan]

He had a talent for smashing. Watching him bat in the legends tournament and smacking the ball with ease. So much power.

 

[mominsaigol]

All u do is assume and hypothesise and never provide any factual evidence or conclude anything meaningful. Nobody can say mark my words x player ll score a century.

Here's the factual Evidence

- Fakhar Scored a century against players like Bumrah in a CT final.

- Amir dismantled the Indian top order leading to a collapse.

- Sarfraz took the final catch as well as orchestrated Pandya's run out.

Now here's some more tidbits.

Against sri lanka pakistan were 7 down still requiring 90 runs to win.

Sarfraz came and scored a 61 not put qith amir scoring 23 not out and the rest were extras.


Now here is What I ask.

DO YOU THINK, Rizwan or Babar are scoring a century in the final of a ct? Or ever scoring a century against India at any stage in odi? Or that shaheen will dismantle Indian top order?

If yyou're answer is no, then whats the logic of Removing Fakhar as an opener for rizwan and babar?

Shouldn't the focus be to figure out how to make Fakhar more consistent? What's Misbah's logic in that? Especially when he was wrong in claiming fakhar's best output is at 5.

Because idk a Consistent fakhar who can replicate 180 on a consistent basis sounds more lucrative then your babar fantasy to me.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Sharjeel can only play these kind of oldies' league now. He is not even in top 50 for Pakistan atm.

 

[BouncerGuy]

This thread is about Sharjeel if you guys can see the title of the thread?

Why are you still discussing Babar, rizwan and fakhar and champions trophy???

 

[Hyder]

Here's the factual Evidence

- Fakhar Scored a century against players like Bumrah in a CT final.

- Amir dismantled the Indian top order leading to a collapse.

- Sarfraz took the final catch as well as orchestrated Pandya's run out.

Now here's some more tidbits.

Against sri lanka pakistan were 7 down still requiring 90 runs to win.

Sarfraz came and scored a 61 not put qith amir scoring 23 not out and the rest were extras.


Now here is What I ask.

DO YOU THINK, Rizwan or Babar are scoring a century in the final of a ct? Or ever scoring a century against India at any stage in odi? Or that shaheen will dismantle Indian top order?

If yyou're answer is no, then whats the logic of Removing Fakhar as an opener for rizwan and babar?

Shouldn't the focus be to figure out how to make Fakhar more consistent? What's Misbah's logic in that? Especially when he was wrong in claiming fakhar's best output is at 5.

Because idk a Consistent fakhar who can replicate 180 on a consistent basis sounds more lucrative then your babar fantasy to me.

Ur mind is as confused as pct selectors. Guving examples of odis and claiming t20 spot.?? Give me fakhars t20 record prior to the loss of his opening position.
Shaheen did dismantle indian top order.
Babar and rizwan gave u first ever win against india in wc. And most clinical win ever.

 

[mominsaigol]

Ur mind is as confused as pct selectors. Guving examples of odis and claiming t20 spot.?? Give me fakhars t20 record prior to the loss of his opening position.
Shaheen did dismantle indian top order.
Babar and rizwan gave u first ever win against india in wc. And most clinical win ever.

If PCT selectors can't make up their mind, then why are you advocating that their selection of rizwan is correct?

 

[gazza619]

Let me put this discussion to bed. If Sharjeel wants a chance again, he simply needs to do three things:

1. Score a ton of runs in domestic competitive cricket.
2. Work on his fitness.
3. Improve fielding.

If he cant do any of the above, then ta ta bye bye to the lad.

 

[MenInG]

This thread is about Sharjeel if you guys can see the title of the thread?

Why are you still discussing Babar, rizwan and fakhar and champions trophy???

You are all reading this but still not paying attention

 

[Rana]

Let me put this discussion to bed. If Sharjeel wants a chance again, he simply needs to do three things:

1. Score a ton of runs in domestic competitive cricket.
2. Work on his fitness.
3. Improve fielding.

If he cant do any of the above, then ta ta bye bye to the lad.

Why don’t you go through his domestic records over the years first before giving these outliners like laptop chief selector

 

[gazza619]

Why don’t you go through his domestic records over the years first before giving these outliners

It doesnt matter what Sharjeel did years ago. What matters is now.

Its now or never for Sharjeel. Alternatively he can stick to eating hyderabadi biryani.

 

[Rana]

It doesnt matter what Sharjeel did years ago. What matters is now.

Its now or never for Sharjeel. Alternatively he can stick to eating hyderabadi biryani.

I said over the years

You clearly have no clue that he was one of the leading scorers in the domestic 50 over tournament too recently

 

[gazza619]

I said over the years

You clearly have no clue that he was one of the leading scorers in the domestic 50 over tournament too recently

When you say recently, was that 2024? And why are you ignoring points 2 and 3 of the requirements.

 

[Rana]

When you say recently, was that 2024? And why are you ignoring points 2 and 3 of the requirements.

Yeah I am. You need him to bat and smash the opponent. Not take blinders at point

 

[gazza619]

Yeah I am. You need him to bat and smash the opponent. Not take blinders at point

Run slow, make team loose vital runs, drop catches, misfield and give extra runs.

That is enough to lose a game even if you are India.

 

[Rana]

Run slow, make team loose vital runs, drop catches, misfield and give extra runs.

That is enough to lose a game even if you are India.

What is enough to beat India? We beat them all the time without Sharjeel I guess

 

[Rana]

Let me put this discussion to bed.

That’s the most convenient and corrupt thing you can say in order to defend Mohammad Rizwan’s opening batting position.

This is the kind of tone, language these people who have lead Pakistan to this path of destruction toddy have been using over the years.

 

[gazza619]

What is enough to beat India? We beat them all the time without Sharjeel I guess

I actually used to like Sharjeel back in the day and am one of the few people on this forum who still have a soft corner for him.

All I am saying are the things he must do to give himself the best chance to be picked again.

 

[Rana]

I actually used to like Sharjeel back in the day and am one of the few people on this forum who still have a soft corner for him.

All I am saying are the things he must do to give himself the best chance to be picked again.

Save it pal.

He doesn’t need anyone’s sympathy. It’s Pakistan cricket that needs ICC sympathy to bend the rules ensuring they qualify for world tournaments. Ranked 7, knocked out of the group stage of the World Cup. If Pakistan goes into the qualifiers just like Zimbabwe, Scotland, Ireland etc…you will see that they are on our level.

So cut the sympathy. Worry about your country as a whole.

 

[Kianig89]

Sharjeel Khan is a TTF and that is reality. Just another hack glorified by some fans. Nothing special he did not improved his game despite given chances here and there. His fitness , technique and fielding were always below par and then the criminal activities which tainted his career. He played under the captaincy of Afridi Hafeez Sarfraz and even Babar yet he was discarded all the time , which shows his level of his quality. rejected by majority , only have sympathies for Sharjeel. Hopefully Sind Premier league will go global and Sharjeel will be their brand ambassador. Who knows one day in a Grandpa XI game we may see him leading Larkana La-ll-us against the Mumbai Indians in Antarctic region.

 

[mominsaigol]

Let me put this discussion to bed. If Sharjeel wants a chance again, he simply needs to do three things:

1. Score a ton of runs in domestic competitive cricket.
2. Work on his fitness.
3. Improve fielding.

If he cant do any of the above, then ta ta bye bye to the lad.

That's fair but then this criteria must apply to everyone. You can't just nit pick.

So far we have

1) Rizwan who on video is struggling with a club bowler and being memed.

2) Azam Khan who clearly doesn't meet the standards.

3) The fielding is a freaking joke in international.

The metrics that you yourself have claimed means that logically no one gets selected besides Maybe Naseem shah who seems to meet these standards, and probably shaheen as well?

Rauf last time couldn't even bowl full 10 overs in the cup? Imad can't run, Azam is too fat, Babar azam has developed the world's biggest dad bod.

Who here meets the criteria of

Exellent fielding + Excellent fitness + Excellent performance in domestic from our current set up?

 

[Rana]

That's fair but then this criteria must apply to everyone. You can't just nit pick.

So far we have

1) Rizwan who on video is struggling with a club bowler and being memed.

2) Azam Khan who clearly doesn't meet the standards.

3) The fielding is a freaking joke in international.

The metrics that you yourself have claimed means that logically no one gets selected besides Maybe Naseem shah who seems to meet these standards, and probably shaheen as well?

Rauf last time couldn't even bowl full 10 overs in the cup? Imad can't run, Azam is too fat, Babar azam has developed the world's biggest dad bod.

Who here meets the criteria of

Exellent fielding + Excellent fitness + Excellent performance in domestic from our current set up?

No bro the metrics only apply to Sharjeel according to this lot.

 

[mominsaigol]

No bro the metrics only apply to Sharjeel according to this lot.

Whenever I ask people to give me metrics they don't answer.

When I question them on their metrics, their unwilling to apply it to anyone else.

Just quit the drama, no need for narratives. Be open and honest, Just say these words

" I hate Player X so I don't want him in"

^^ Bas, that's all that's needed.

 

[Rana]

Whenever I ask people to give me metrics they don't answer.

When I question them on their metrics, their unwilling to apply it to anyone else.

Just quit the drama, no need for narratives. Be open and honest, Just say these words

" I hate Player X so I don't want him in"

^^ Bas, that's all that's needed.

Exactly, what’s the need of trying to mask that hate with fancy words as if they will be convinced if someone provides a stronger argument to theirs?

Just admit it. You don’t want Sharjeel because he takes the spot of the guy who is being accommodated in this XI

 

[mominsaigol]

Exactly, what’s the need of trying to mask that hate with fancy words as if they will be convinced if someone provides a stronger argument to theirs?

Just admit it. You don’t want Sharjeel because he takes the spot of the guy who is being accommodated in this XI

Asking someone to improve their fitness and performance with rizwan having a cramp episode every game.

 

[Rana]

Asking someone to improve their fitness and performance with rizwan having a cramp episode every game.

So the issue isn’t batting and strike rate I suppose @gazza619

He’s the batter we need? You admit that?

 

[Hyder]

Exactly, what’s the need of trying to mask that hate with fancy words as if they will be convinced if someone provides a stronger argument to theirs?

Just admit it. You don’t want Sharjeel because he takes the spot of the guy who is being accommodated in this XI

What has sharjeel done in t20i to warrant a space in team. Answer this. And end it.

 

[Rana]

What has sharjeel done in t20i to warrant a space in team. Answer this. And end it.

He’s done nothing. End of story. Whatever he does, it will be nothing according to you. Don’t bother with me.

 

[mominsaigol]

What has sharjeel done in t20i to warrant a space in team. Answer this. And end it.

What did Rizwan do to warrant opening in t20 in 2020? He was one of the worst Middle order to lower order bata from 2015-2019 in t20 and got dropped frequently.

Based of this, what did rizwan do to become a full time opener in 2020?

 

[BouncerGuy]

Rizwan seized his opportunity when he was made an opener while Sharjeel bottled it. Could not make a comeback after he was dropped. No consistency, poor fitness, fixing allegations. WHat else do we need to say that sharjeel should work harder to remove all these stains???

 

[mominsaigol]

Rizwan seized his opportunity when he was made an opener while Sharjeel bottled it. Could not make a comeback after he was dropped. No consistency, poor fitness, fixing allegations. WHat else do we need to say that sharjeel should work harder to remove all these stains???

He didn't. As soon as he was made opener, both bobby and rizzu led pakistan to an absolute crap show of a 2020 year which was a stark contrast to how well the team was doing in 2018.

Then in 2021 the team turned things around with good performance in series and a good world cup outing, However 2022 to 2024 crashed hard and flat for the team with these 2 opening.

Funny enough, the team did significantly better in 2022 without these 2 performing Then they did in 2024 with these 2 once again topping the charts.

 

[BouncerGuy]

He didn't. As soon as he was made opener, both bobby and rizzu led pakistan to an absolute crap show of a 2020 year which was a stark contrast to how well the team was doing in 2018.

Then in 2021 the team turned things around with good performance in series and a good world cup outing, However 2022 to 2024 crashed hard and flat for the team with these 2 opening.

Funny enough, the team did significantly better in 2022 without these 2 performing Then they did in 2024 with these 2 once again topping the charts.

I hope sharjeel can match these guys so he can make a comeback.

Without performance, there is no chance for him be back especially after that fixing stuff

 

[mominsaigol]

I hope sharjeel can match these guys so he can make a comeback.

Without performance, there is no chance for him be back especially after that fixing stuff

I don't really want sharjeel, people are associating him with me for some reason.

I'm in favour of young blood like shabzada farhan.

It's sharjeel's intent that is key. And young bloods should learn from him on how to approach opening.

Babar and rizwan are the last people who should inspire or lead, heck they don't even lead? They just care for themselves? It's not like they are interested in winning any silverware for their country.

 

[BouncerGuy]

I don't really want sharjeel, people are associating him with me for some reason.

I'm in favour of young blood like shabzada farhan.

It's sharjeel's intent that is key. And young bloods should learn from him on how to approach opening.

Babar and rizwan are the last people who should inspire or lead, heck they don't even lead? They just care for themselves? It's not like they are interested in winning any silverware for their country.

Farhan is also not a young blood but he has performance to back his selection.

People are saying sharjeel would have done this, he would have smashed this bowlers etc etc. Reality is totally different.

 

[mominsaigol]

Farhan is also not a young blood but he has performance to back his selection.

People are saying sharjeel would have done this, he would have smashed this bowlers etc etc. Reality is totally different.

By young blood I meant newbies who haven't represented pakistan in international much.

 

[BouncerGuy]

By young blood I meant newbies who haven't represented pakistan in international much.

Makes sense then. Pakistan is not short of talent.

 

[Kianig89]

Like Sharjeel alot of players over the years showed intent for Pakistan , but they all fizzled out such as Shahazaib Hasan, Awais Zia and everybody knows the reason

 

[Rana]

I hope sharjeel can match these guys so he can make a comeback.

Match them how? A strike rate of 100-110 in mega events?

Or an overall sr of 125-130 in useless bilaterals? What kind of matching must he do?

 

[Rana]

Makes sense then. Pakistan is not short of talent.

So who? Where do they bat and then where does Babar and Rizwan bat?

 

[BouncerGuy]

Match them how? A strike rate of 100-110 in mega events?

Or an overall sr of 125-130 in useless bilaterals? What kind of matching must he do?

strike rate of 133 is not blistering by any means to what 130 is.

 

[BouncerGuy]

So who? Where do they bat and then where does Babar and Rizwan bat?

Not sharjeel. That guy is washed up for internationals.