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SIF,
Did you read motabhai's article, "Undoing 6 decades in 6 years" TBH, I wasn't sure he was literate enough to write it.
However, isn't he so honest about the title?
That's because you probably didn't follow him as CM of Gujarat, a stint which was as hollow and full of his customary fekugiri as his current stint.Anyone who is even SLIGHTLY informed and can see 1+1 = 2 would call this guy a FEKU.
I doubted this tag in 2014 but NOW I don't.
That's because you probably didn't follow him as CM of Gujarat, a stint which was as hollow and full of his customary fekugiri as his current stint.
That's because you probably didn't follow him as CM of Gujarat, a stint which was as hollow and full of his customary fekugiri as his current stint.
You are looking at only one way of governance which is infrastructure and business.Naw Gujarat is really a good state for middleclass that loves infrastructure. Because of dictator level approach he was able to get Sabramati river area beautified, the intra-state highways are excellent with great mobile connectivity throughout(while traveling), am saying this because I have been there.They have so many cities for middlecass to settle in..
Now another thing is Gujaratis are entrepreneurial which makes Modis job easier to be a dictator, its another thing managing a whole country which have people with different aspirations.
You are looking at only one way of governance which is infrastructure and business.
What about human resource indices which were amongst lowest in entire country? What about Gujarat becoming totally communal under him? Do these things count for something when you talk of governance?
You are looking at only one way of governance which is infrastructure and business.
What about human resource indices which were amongst lowest in entire country? What about Gujarat becoming totally communal under him? Do these things count for something when you talk of governance?
That's because you probably didn't follow him as CM of Gujarat, a stint which was as hollow and full of his customary fekugiri as his current stint.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Letter written by the PM of India to the Nation. <br><br>Why National Emblem is replaced by lotus? <br>Why Tri Colour is missing? <br><br>How is lotus important to citizens. It’s not National flower as well. <br><br>Is this a Party’s karyekarta letter or by PM of a country? <br><br>Patriotic? My FOOT. <a href="https://t.co/07hWEnmB9g">https://t.co/07hWEnmB9g</a></p>— Lt Col Anil Duhoon (@anilduhoon) <a href="https://twitter.com/anilduhoon/status/1266716265856425985?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Anyone who calls repeatedly himself a "patriot" is usually a scam artist or worse TRAITOR.
Insecure people need to chest thump about their credentials repeatedly.
lotus has always been signified as national flower of india from decades, even in text books. So called intellectuals don’t even know that..
I’m not a big fan of all the Modi’s decisions. But have you ever been to Gujarat(I have lived in Ahmedabad for 5 years)? Or is it all about your posts starting with 56? I’ll appreciate if you provide something constructive.
Same with SIF. All i see is either moaning in all the posts or essays which doesn’t make any sense.
NEW DELHI: A Delhi court on Thursday denied bail to Jamia Millia Islamia scholar Safoora Zargar, saying it found "no merits" in her application.
Zargar, also the media coordinator of the Jamia Coordination Committee, was arrested by Delhi Police's Special Cell after being accused of hatching a conspiracy to incite communal riots in the national capital's northeast area in February this year.
Additional Sessions Judge at the Patiala House Court, Dharmendra Rana, while dismissing the plea filed by Zargar, said, "I do not find merits in the bail application, it is accordingly dismissed."
The court, however, directed the jail officials to provide adequate medical aid and assistance to Zargar, who is pregnant.
Opposing her bail application, the Special Cell submitted before the court that she had allegedly made inflammatory speeches and was part of a conspiracy to instigate communal violence, which had been planned weeks ago.
The police told the court that the accused persons were part of the protests against the Citizenship Amendment Act in various parts of the national capital.
"In mid-February, the accused had allegedly planned to hold protests in various parts of northeast Delhi. They had also blocked road near the Jafrabad Metro station," the police said.
The case relates to organising anti-CAA protests in the Jaffrabad area, where majority of the participants were women.
Later, violence broke out between pro and anti-CCA protesters in February, which left at least 53 people dead, including IB official Ankit Sharma and Head Constable Rattan Lal.
I'll appreciate if you post your opinion and let me post mine.I’m not a big fan of all the Modi’s decisions. But have you ever been to Gujarat(I have lived in Ahmedabad for 5 years)? Or is it all about your posts starting with 56? I’ll appreciate if you provide something constructive.
Same with SIF. All i see is either moaning in all the posts or essays which doesn’t make any sense.
This is true. Everyone gets dwarfed in front of brute state power.<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Remember Kapil Baisala, who fired shots at Shaheen Bagh & shouted "hamare desh me sirf hinduon ki chalegi?"<br><br>He was given bail in March. His lawyer argued that he has "deep roots in society" & that "he has the responsibility of a wife & a minor child."<br><br>Safoora is still in jail. <a href="https://t.co/DIJEUyWx5s">pic.twitter.com/DIJEUyWx5s</a></p>— Ana (@tweetsofamuggle) <a href="https://twitter.com/tweetsofamuggle/status/1269674194494611458?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Pregnant Safoora Zargar denied bail again as judge finds 'no merit' in plea
https://www.newindianexpress.com/ci...-as-judge-finds-no-merit-in-plea-2152326.html
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Silence of the so called rational BJP Supporters is why not-so-sensible posters like me snap.
Too bad I don't have enough time in the day to hammer this FRAUD govt.
Lol, this creature going scot free is biggest irony of multiple FIRs being filed in state sponsored riots in NE Delhi.<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kapil Mishra’s speech on CAA example of inciting violence: Zuckerberg <a href="https://t.co/zfl0aWrUvV">https://t.co/zfl0aWrUvV</a> <a href="https://t.co/9bP1NQntDk">pic.twitter.com/9bP1NQntDk</a></p>— The Times Of India (@timesofindia) <a href="https://twitter.com/timesofindia/status/1269548472438415362?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Anti national Zucker.
Tu to traitor nikla.
Fans should now boycott FB. )
Bohot uchal rahe the "boycott Chinese products" (without knowing the real impact of Chinese imports on our Indian manufacturing units).
Denying Safoora Zargar Bail was Wrong in Law, Despite UAPA
On Thursday, 4 June, Additional Sessions Judge Dharmender Rana of the Patiala House Court denied bail to Safoora Zargar, a student of Jamia Millia Islamia, in a case regarding her participation in anti-CAA protests in Delhi.
The Special Cell of the Delhi Police claim that Zargar made an inflammatory speech on 23 February at Chand Bagh which helped sparked the riots that took place in North East Delhi, and have not just booked her under provisions of the Indian Penal Code, but the dreaded Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act 1967 – known as the UAPA – as well.
Zargar has been in custody since 10 April, and is 21 weeks pregnant. Here’s why the denial of bail to her runs contrary to the law, despite the statutory bars to bail that the UAPA creates.
The Vague Definitions Under UAPA That Remain Undefined
While bail is supposed to be the norm and pre-trial incarceration the exception, for Safoora Zargar to get bail in this case, it’s not enough for her to show that she’s not likely to repeat her offence, abscond, threaten witnesses or tamper with the evidence – the regular conditions which have to be met before a court is willing to grant someone bail.
The UAPA is currently India’s primary anti-terror legislation, thanks to amendments made to it by the UPA government in 2008 to compensate for the repeal of the much-hated POTA. However, the draconian law doesn’t only deal with terrorism, it also includes the commission of an ‘unlawful activity’.
The complication in Zargar’s case, and in an increasing number of high-profile cases involving protests and dissent, is the invocation of the UAPA.
The definition of ‘unlawful activity’ under the UAPA is incredibly vague, referring to any action that supports or is intended to support the secession of any part of India, or “disclaims, questions, disrupts or is intended to disrupt” the sovereignty and territorial integrity of India.
It also includes any action by a person “which causes or is intended to cause disaffection against India” – which judge Dharmender Rana considers the pertinent issue when it comes to Safoora Zargar’s case.
There is unfortunately no definition of ‘disaffection against India’, as the judge recognised in his order, which means when interpreting the concept, the courts have to often consider what has been held in case law relating to other offences under other legislations.
What is important to note in the order passed by the Patiala House Court on 4 June is that the prosecution hasn’t really bothered to explain in much detail why they think Zargar has committed a punishable offence under the UAPA.
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Also Read : ‘Unwed & Pregnant’: Trolls Target Safoora Zargar With Fake Claims
Instead, their primary argument used to oppose bail for Zargar is that under the UAPA, “there is a statutory embargo upon the power of the court to release the applicant/accused on bail.”
In the prosecution’s view, they have witness statements and some WhatsApp chats which justify the invocation of the UAPA. Since that is the case, they argue that the courts cannot go into the merits of the case, and because of that ‘statutory embargo’, there is no question of granting Zargar bail.
Now this is indeed the key issue in this case, because Section 43D(5) of the UAPA does create a near-impossible hurdle for an accused when it comes to bail. Judge Dharmender Rana also acknowledges that this is the case, and eventually denies bail on this basis.
How UAPA Makes Bail Virtually Impossible
But here’s the catch: despite everything Section 43D(5) does to make bail virtually impossible, the conditions required for it to apply are not in fact met in Safoora Zargar’s case.
This has nothing to do with the merits of the main arguments about whether Zargar was present where the police claim she was, or whether she was part of a conspiracy or not, but is purely a function of what the authorities have argued in the court, as acknowledged by the judge. Section 43D(5) says that a person accused of an offence under Chapters IV and VI of the UAPA (terrorism and belonging to a terrorist organisation) shall not be released on bail if the court, after perusing the case diary and police report, “is of the opinion that there are reasonable grounds for believing that the accusation against such person is prima facie true.”
What this means is that if the police are able to make out a prima facie case that a person committed a terrorism-related offence, then the court cannot grant them bail.
The condition for this to apply, therefore is clear: the material provided by the authorities has to make out a prima facie case for a terrorism offence.
Why the ‘Statutory Embargo’ Doesn’t Apply in Safoora’s Case
There is nothing, however, in judge Dharmender Rana’s order, which shows that this condition has been met.
First, when assessing whether or not the provisions of the UAPA have been rightfully invoked in the case against Safoora Zargar, the judge says he has to look at whether an ‘unlawful activity’ took place, in terms of causing “disaffection against India”.
However, as advocate Chitranshul Sinha points out, Section 43D(5) clearly says that for it to apply, there has to be prima facie evidence of offences under Chapter IV (terrorist activities) or Chapter VI (terrorist organisations) of the UAPA – not just of an offence of ‘unlawful activity’.
Sinha explains:
“Safoora Zargar has been accused under Chapter IV of terrorist activities but the bail court has not found any prima facie evidence against her for that. The only prima facie evidence that according to the court exists is for ‘chakka jam’ which at best would fall under Chapter III and therefore there’s no bar on grant of bail under Section 43D(5) of UAPA. Therefore denial of bail on this ground is untenable and unconscionable.”
Note the wording of the section requires the prima facie evidence to be on record; it can’t just be inferred from listing the terror provisions of the UAPA.
The Prima Facie Evidence Doesn’t Add Up
Let us assume for a moment that Section 43D (5) somehow applies here. Even in such circumstances, the police have not made out a prima facie case that Zargar has committed the requisite offences under the UAPA, whether terrorism (of which no mention is made) OR unlawful activity.
According to the judge, ‘mere violence’ is not enough to constitute the offence of ‘unlawful activity’ under the UAPA, in terms of causing “disaffection against India”.
The activity in question has to have “a tendency to create a disorder or disturbance of law and order to such an extent that the entire city is brought to its knees and the entire government machinery is brought to a grinding halt”, according to him, after reviewing the law on sedition in India.
Judge Dharmender Rana finds eventually that, from the witness statements and the WhatsApp chat available on record, “it can be safely inferred that there is prima facie evidence to show that there was a conspiracy to atleast blockade the roads (chakka jam).”
This is not enough to satisfy Section 43D(5) – following his own assessment of the law, he has to find that the prima facie evidence points to a conspiracy to bring the entire city of Delhi to its knees and bring the machinery of government to a grinding halt.
How can causing a blockade of some roads or chakka jam (that too only in one part of the city) meet this extremely high standard?
And yet that’s exactly what judge Dharmender Rana does two paragraphs later, saying that “one cannot ignore the case of the prosecution that the accused persons have conspired to cause disruption of such an extent and such a magnitude that it would lead to disorderliness and disturbance of law and order at an unprecedented scale.”
There is NO causal link drawn between this and the evidence on record, which is a requirement at this stage, even if the court is not supposed to examine the merits of the case
This is not some formality that can be casually brushed aside, given a person’s liberty is at stake, and yet that’s exactly what the judge has done. Yes, the UAPA does make grant of bail difficult if not impossible. Yes, the court is not supposed to look at the merits of the case, and see if Zargar’s speeches (if any) were inflammatory, or how she conspired with others to cause the riots that set North East Delhi aflame.
However, if the court’s own findings on prima facie evidence show one thing, but then get magically stretched to somehow cover a more serious offence, then we as citizens of this country need to be very, very scared about what it means for our civil liberties, as any legitimate action can be construed as an offence against the nation on a whim.
There are many forms of government in which that may be possible, but constitutional democracies are not one of them.
Lol, this creature going scot free is biggest irony of multiple FIRs being filed in state sponsored riots in NE Delhi.
Lol, bhakts getting hot under the collar....<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kapil Mishra’s speech on CAA example of inciting violence: Zuckerberg <a href="https://t.co/zfl0aWrUvV">https://t.co/zfl0aWrUvV</a> <a href="https://t.co/9bP1NQntDk">pic.twitter.com/9bP1NQntDk</a></p>— The Times Of India (@timesofindia) <a href="https://twitter.com/timesofindia/status/1269548472438415362?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Anti national Zucker.
Tu to traitor nikla.
Fans should now boycott FB. )
Bohot uchal rahe the "boycott Chinese products" (without knowing the real impact of Chinese imports on our Indian manufacturing units).
Lol, bhakts getting hot under the collar....
https://theprint.in/india/state-fac...ckerberg-over-kapil-mishra-speech-row/437821/
New Delhi: A right wing fact-finding group has come down heavily on Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg for quoting BJP leader Kapil Mishra’s controversial speech — though he did not name him — as an example of social media incitement.
The Group of Intellectuals and Academicians (GIA) wrote an open letter to Zuckerberg Monday and said he must make his statements “with the conviction of facts and data rather than rhetoric”.
Another big ghotala happening under bigot.
https://m.rediff.com/news/interview/pm-cares-must-disclose-all-account-details/20200608.htm
Not that it was needed to show that these sanghis are the most corrupt ones, here is another proof of them bringing down yet another democratically elected government on the basis of the black money they have amassed.Yup. Lots of comedy happening in there.
Wanted to post about it a bit later lol.
Not that it was needed to show that these sanghis are the most corrupt ones, here is another proof of them bringing down yet another democratically elected government on the basis of the black money they have amassed.
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/on-...-nath-government-2243586?pfrom=home-topscroll
Truly deplorable state of affairs. And when you see a proven bigot and instigator like Mishra not even being touched, you do question whether we really are a democracy. And it's not just Mishra, there are Balyans, Thakurs, Uma Bhartis, Sangeeet Soms etc, the list is endless. And then you have 2 bigots-in-chief ruling you.<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"International law, including treaties to which India is a State party, only permit pre-trial detention under narrow circumstances which do not appear to have been met in Ms Zargar's case"<a href="https://t.co/2mvEOGnMaC">https://t.co/2mvEOGnMaC</a></p>— AnnieZaidi (@anniezaidi) <a href="https://twitter.com/anniezaidi/status/1271891986077765632?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
You may want to read this.Hope the support package that the Modi government announced has started reaching the poor and hungry.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="hi" dir="ltr">Oh bhai ���� <a href="https://t.co/VKJjFUGz6Q">pic.twitter.com/VKJjFUGz6Q</a></p>— Dr Nimo (@niiravmodi) <a href="https://twitter.com/niiravmodi/status/1273509305203830784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
You may like to read this.
https://theprint.in/opinion/modi-is...edium=push_notification&utm_campaign=ThePrint
True. All the more ironic considering how many actual rioters were not even touched despite all the evidence to the contrary.Safoora FINALLY granted bail.
Apparently for "humanitarian" concerns, the centre didn't oppose it.
After 74 days. lol.
Chalo...atleast it happened now, thanks to the pressure exerted by people.
I refuse to believe that there isn't any good alternative other than this anti national bigot. And have you seen his body language while meeting other head of states? So cringe worthy! We being such a great nation, deserve far better and someone literate to represent us globally.All India needs is one credible alternative and things would unravel.
I refuse to believe that there isn't any good alternative other than this anti national bigot. And have you seen his body language while meeting other head of states? So cringe worthy! We being such a great nation, deserve far better and someone literate to represent us globally.
I get all of that. But the problem is that gullible Indians are spellbound by his non existent 'powers' which only they know about.By alternative, I am talking from an election standpoint.
Otherwise, even a half dead monkey can run India better than this guy.
We need a face to get behind atleast by 2021 or latest 2022.
If the trends are not in place, it's going to be very very hard.
Cos in 2024, Modi can screw up everything and still be PM if he manages 200 seats in the Lok Sabha (with allies pitching in).
If he has to be defeated, the alternative should be ridiculously solid.
I don't see Rahul getting to that level right now if I am being honest.
SIF,
You may like to read what a Congressman thinks what ails Congress. He is erudite and has great control over language.
https://www.rediff.com/news/interview/why-the-congress-wont-pose-a-challenge-to-modi/20200624.htm
Everyone knows this is something which is never going to happen. Congress' downfall started during Indira's time when she sidelined regional satraps and firmly established the culture of high command in the party.These old gangs need to thrown out and transparent elections held.
SIF,
Do you think Khushbu joining the sanghi ranks will anyway impact their standing during next year's assembly elections?
SIF,
Do you think Khushbu joining the sanghi ranks will anyway impact their standing during next year's assembly elections?
Yeah, thought so. She is just a former actress who is basically a party hopper.Nah don't think so.
She jumps from party to party.
Sanghis are taking TN very very seriously for the future.
Saw a ton of banners near my friend's house.
Yeah, thought so. She is just a former actress who is basically a party hopper.
Hope you guys maintain sanghis' streak in TN.
Yeah, thought so. She is just a former actress who is basically a party hopper.
Hope you guys maintain sanghis' streak in TN.
Sanghis are so notorious and cancerous for my country that they have to be mentioned. See I used it again!
Yeah. Palaniswamy on one hand and Stalin on the other! Getting vibes of devil and deep sea!There is a serious leadership void in TN.
I honestly don't know whom to vote for in the upcoming Assembly elections.
DMK should mostly clinch it.
Lol, this was what Khushbu used to say about bigot while being in Congress,Yeah, thought so. She is just a former actress who is basically a party hopper.
What do you have say about Amma and Kalaignar? I personally being a North Indian, not a fan of these 2.
However you being a TNite would know better.
Lol, this was what Khushbu used to say about bigot while being in Congress,
“It’s an insult to me as an Indian to call him (Narendra Modi) my PM.. he behaves like a PM to selective group..Alas blind bhakts don’t see that..communal riot minded such as you follow a man who thinks people from different religion are not INDIANS.. Modi is an insult to India n it’s democracy”.
Lol, truer words have never been spoken! Sanghis must be really desperate to open their account in TN if they still inducted her in their ranks.